McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

October 16, 2008

A decade ago, John McCain, senator from Arizona, voted for passage of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.

These days, John McCain, Republican presidential candidate, is feeling its sting. That's because the DMCA is heavily weighted in favor of content rights holders, often at the expense of everyday content users - like the McCain campaign.

As Wired's Threat Level blog reports, YouTube has turned down a request from McCain's people to take a closer look at fair use issues before yanking their videos at the request of DMCA take-down notices. From Wired:

The McCain campaign on Monday fired off a letter to YouTube complaining that the company had acted too quickly to take down McCain's videos in response to copyright infringement notices. McCain campaign general counsel Trevor Potter argued that several of the removed ads, which had used excerpts of television footage, fall under the four-factor doctrine of fair-use, and shouldn't have been removed.

 

But citing the DMCA, a controversial copyright law that McCain voted to approve a decade ago, Levine pointed out that YouTube risks being sued itself if it doesn't respond promptly to takedown notices.

By way of example, Cnet reports that YouTube has taken down McCain videos at the request of CBS and Fox because they included clips from on-air interviews.

Comments

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by E. Zachary Knight on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 16:59.

One thing that bothers me about this, If I were interviewed on a television program, shouldn't I be able to post that video anywhere I want people to see it? Why should some tv channel be able to dictate to me how I can use footage of me?

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by thefremen on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 16:46.

 It's nice when rich untouchable senators actually feel the effects of the shit they put everyone else through.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by cjovalle on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 16:40.

Interestingly, the DMCA also prohibits YouTube from acting in the way that the McCain campaign suggests. If they begin to evaluate certain types of content, then YouTube risks its DMCA safe harbor status and could become liable for mistakes that they make as well as the actions of their users. YouTube has sent a response:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081015-youtube-to-mccain-no-speci...

Furthermore, how would it be fair for YouTube to privilege the political campaigns and not the other fair uses from other citizens?

I wish William Patry was still blogging. ^^;

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by axiomatic on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 15:54.

Irony... it's whats for breakfast.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Mark Clayton on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 14:55.

The Obama/Biden campaign has also had videos pulled because of it, but haven't raised a stink like Team Maverick has.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by JC on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:57.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised his people are asking for special treatment to bypass the law >_>

*sigh* I hope they all feel more problems like that in the future.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by SimonBob on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:00.

The difference is that the Democratic campaign doesn't need copyrighted music to cover up their speeches.  Heck, they've got people writing songs just for them.  (Tho I have to admit, "Drill Here, Drill Now" has a catchy hook.)

---
The Mammon Industry

---
Fangamer

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by HalfShadow on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:30.

Sounds more like the title to a porn movie.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by wiregr on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 12:11.

Maybe they'll start running campaign ads in porn next?

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Spartan on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 10:56.

I was shocked at the suggestion made by McCain that YT should give special treatment to political media. WTF? If it is good enough for the average Joe then it should be more then good enough for the collective leadership of said Joe's country. The next thing they want to have done is to make exceptions old long dead rock stars and others of that ilk...

-------------------------------------------

"The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" - Herodotus

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" - Herodotus

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by HalfShadow on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 10:47.

Ha!

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by mogbert on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 09:01.

Yeah, I think Biden voted for it too, considering how "in the pocket" he is of big content. However, it is funny that they start to see that big contents payoffs may not be worth it.

Quite frankly, I hope that this starts happening to government more often, getting bitten by the stupid laws they pass. Next step, they need to raid and sieze all the computers of any senator who's children have downloaded an illegal MP3 under the PRO-IP law, then hit them with the maximum fine. With the gigs they probably have, it would eat up even their money. This won't ever happen though, because Big Content knows that if they do catch a senator's son in their overbroad dragnet, they let him go.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by PHOENIXZERO on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 20:06.

Biden didn't just vote for it, he was one of the guys behind it and pushed for it to get passed IIRC.

 

Unfortunately, if it does start biting the government in the backside they'll just pass a law making the government and its officials immune to such potential problems. >_>

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Austin_Lewis on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 09:29.

Yeah Biden voted for it.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Twin-Skies on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 08:54.

What goes around, comes around. Gotta love karma

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by squigs on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 08:39.

It certainly makes no commercial sense for YouTube to give the benefit of the doubt to the posters of the videos, even if they are the customers. 

But I really think the YouTube admins must take some petulant delight in telling McCain this. 

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Austin_Lewis on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 08:36.

Can we talk about Biden voting for it too?

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by Cattleprod on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 10:39.

Sure, as soon as he starts bitching about it like a hypocrite the way McCain is.

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by DeepThorn on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 20:22.

You have to be fair, Biden had a little bit of an idea of what he was voting on, while McCain thought it was a series of tubes making up the internet, haha.

"Why do I need a mouse for a computer?  Wont it bite me?"

Nido Web Flash Tutorials AS2 and AS3 Tutorials for anyone interested.
How to set Xbox 360 Parental Controls

Re: McCain Voted for DMCA, Now Feeling its Bite

Submitted by E. Zachary Knight on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 08:39.

Just about everyone who still is in congress or senate who were arounbd then voted for it.

I am glad to see that politicians are now feeling its sting. Hopefully they will be more willing to do something about it.

Also, it was already talked about when it was announced that Biden was the VP.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower

 
Forgot your password?
Username :
Password :

Poll

Are you excited for the Xbox One?:

Shout box

You're not permitted to post shouts.
Andrew Eisen: Well, the Xbox One reveal certainly had an interesting affect on the big 3's stock prices. https://twitter.com/AndrewEisen/status/33705126448977100805/21/2013 - 10:45pm
PHX Corp: http://kotaku.com/so-the-xbox-one-reveal-screwed-up-a-lot-of-peoples-kin-509179256 So The Xbox One Reveal Screwed With Some People's Kinects05/21/2013 - 10:36pm
Zen: On a funny side note...both of my boys have already voted NOT to get the Xbox One as soon as they found out Minecraft won't transfer lol. Some people have priorities damnit! ;)05/21/2013 - 9:27pm
Andrew Eisen: Here's the full quote on EA making Wii U games according to Neogaf: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56112105/21/2013 - 8:19pm
Andrew Eisen: Xbox One may not be always on but that doesn't mean you can use it without an internet connection. http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-50916410905/21/2013 - 7:39pm
Andrew Eisen: Polygon says EA's CFO says it is developing games for Wii U but doesn't provide that quote. http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4351844/ea-developing-wii-u-games05/21/2013 - 7:11pm
Andrew Eisen: Well, I was right. Both Sony and Microsoft's consoles will be out by the year's end and both will be significantly more powerful than the current gen.05/21/2013 - 5:06pm
james_fudge: thnx05/21/2013 - 4:47pm
Zen: Just to let ya know...you called it the "Xbox 260" in the backwards compatibility article lol.05/21/2013 - 4:26pm
Zen: @PHX Awesome, I will hit those up after class tonight. Going back to college finally! :) My kids have had a blast telling ME to do my homework now lol.05/21/2013 - 4:19pm
PHX Corp: @Zen I sent you a friend request on both PSN and XBL, just a heads up05/21/2013 - 4:16pm
Zen: I noticed it with the football players when EA showed off Madden as well.05/21/2013 - 4:11pm
Zen: Is it just me or is call of duty hitting the "uncanny valley" with their nicely modeled faces and dead looking eyes? I found it distracting and seemed actually "less" real to me lol.05/21/2013 - 4:10pm
james_fudge: it sounds like if you have an HD reciever you'll be able to use it with a pass-through cable... not 100 percent sure yet05/21/2013 - 2:41pm
james_fudge: happening now http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-architecture-panel/05/21/2013 - 2:20pm
E. Zachary Knight: Some reading material for Microsoft on its used games blocks. That will hurt the console more than helping. http://ezknight.net/?page_id=20505/21/2013 - 2:18pm
james_fudge: yeah good luck with over the air TV05/21/2013 - 2:12pm
E. Zachary Knight: But what if I want to only watch over the air tv? I don't subscribe to pay tv. I never will. If that is a requirement, then MS wasted 45 minutes telling me how great TV will be.05/21/2013 - 2:08pm
james_fudge: EZK it will depend on your provider, just like HBO Go i'd imagine.05/21/2013 - 2:05pm
PHX Corp: @IanC there's also a chance that those titles might be Xbox one exclusive, but it's too early to tell afaik05/21/2013 - 2:03pm
All shouts
 

Be Heard - Contact Your Politician