Mad Money’s Cramer Adds Take-Two’s Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Frenetic money man Jim Cramer named Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick to the "Wall of Shame" on his popular Mad Money program yesterday.

Cramer blasted Zelnick and a pair of CEOs from other companies for failing to accept takeover bids and then seeing their stock values collapse.

As has been widely reported on GamePolitics and other sites, Zelnick rejected a $25.74 acquisistion offer from Electronic Arts earlier this year. EA eventually walked away from the deal. The Grand Theft Auto publisher’s stock (TTWO) will open at 13.15 this morning. Among Cramer’s trashing of the T2 boss:

[EA’s offer was] an offer no sane man can refuse. But Strauss Zelnick, Take-two’s chairman did just that…

Welcome to the Wall of Shame, Strauss Zelnick. You managed to take a sure thing, a $25 stock and turn it into a $13 one. That takes talent.

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  1. 0
    Michael Chandra says:

    Eh, I made a post before about that. What was the place again where you complained first about us not posting our names? I hate repeating myself.

    Edit: Found it. Long live Google.

    "Oh and as for your original whine, there’s 2 main reasons why I don’t use my real name on the internet:
    1: My first name sounds rediculous in english.
    2: There’s some crazy dudes out there, like you. Last I’m interested in is someone crazy, like you, stalking, harassing or even assaulting me because he couldn’t handle a joke, a beatdown or whatever."

  2. 0
    Automancer says:

    Heh, the moment I saw the post count I knew Jack had commented. I mean seriously, the guy is as subtle as a tornado. Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I really have no intrest in Cramer or his show. Although, my brother says he’s pretty funny to watch.


    ———————————————————————————————————————————– "Thank you, Detective Spooner. You said someone, not something."- Sonny from I, Robot

  3. 0
    Mnementh2230 says:

     Oy, Jacko – you got your ass banned, so you come back?

    Dumbass, that’s evidence for Cyber-Stalking, a federal offense.  Fuck’s sake, I’m not even a lawyer, and I know that.  How dumb are you?  Wait, that’s a rhetorical question – you’re so goddamn dumb, you lost your license to practice law (and I mean practice in the loosest sense possible – you didn’t really practice, you merely failed).

    With a demonstrated IQ of a kumquat, I’m suprised you manage to find the right keys on the keyboard to type your idiotic drivel (nevermind that it is usually either summarily rejected or ignored).  Jack, you’re irrelevant, and although your miniscule amount of grey matter may not be able to comprehend it, you only generate traffic here because we’re LAUGHING AT YOU.  You’re the biggest goddamn laughing stock the florida legal community has ever known, and in the gaming community you’re only trailing Duke Nukem Forever for that same coveted title.


    Freedom Award Winner?  Your freedom award was granted by a bunch of bigots.  There’s no freedom in that, only tyranny.  That’s like winning a "libery award" from neo-nazis – utterly useless.

    The videogame industry doesn’t need any more friends, you’ve driven more than enough into their camp with your utter lunacy.  You’ve failed completely, as an author, a lawyer, a crusader, a husband, a father, and a person.  Practice what you preach – go find a suicide game and get really good at it.  With your track record, you’ll need all the luck and pracitce you can get to finally succeed at something.


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    Tammej says:

    I applaud Zelnicks decision to show EA the door. EA stands for so many things I’ve learned to hate in the world of video game marketing, and Take Two stands for so many things that should be loved by many.


    Since EA bought and destroyed Origin, they can pretty much go to hell as far as I’m concerned. No chance for redemption there, especially not when you consider that EA would and has done it again and again, with other once successful studios and companies.


  5. 0
    TheEggplant says:

    First off nobody in this state, outside of the ones who issued it, give a damn about about the Freedom Award. I’ve yet to talk to anyone who even knows what it is. An empty award given by organizers trying to save their dying festival means absolutly nothing.

    Second since Take-Two was the first game publisher, that I know of, to use SecuROM 7 in their products they can burn in hell. 2K and EA are spiritual if not literal siblings.

    This just illustrates a larger point. When money-suits attempt to profit off other’s creativity the fans suffer.

    Buy indie and sleep better at night. I know I do.

  6. 0
    Jack Wessels says:

    "to hassle the board"

    There you go. Proving once again that you have the maturity of a four-year-old.


    -"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

  7. 0
    Jack Wessels says:

    My name? Hmmm. I do believe it’s posted a few pixels above the words you currently aren’t reading, as you never come back after you’ve been contradicted. Throw in the rumored banhammer, and I’m actually wondering why I even bother talking to, essentially, myself. But yeah, you have my name.

    In fact, you have my email address, and through that, I do believe, is my address. I can’t honestly say if I have that information in there or not. But on the off chance it is, why don’t you swing by sometime? I figure with all the free time you’ll be enjoying you might wanna come up and play some Halo.


    -"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

  8. 0
    ezbiker555 says:

    ^_^ It’s amazing what a full night’s rest does for you. Not to mention, I was expecting a lot more from his response but its clear that I drove my point right through his thick skull and it made clear. Plus, he becoming afraid of what’s going to happen on saturday. The way he acts right now is a lot different than he did yesterday and a week before.

    In short, He’s loosing it.

  9. 0
    gamegod25 says:

    Does anyone really care what this guy thinks? I mean wasn’t this the guy who said that people were stupid to take their money out of a certain bank (I forget exactly) that then went bankrupt shortly after? Just because he’s bald and shouts a lot doesn’t mean he know **** about stocks.

    TBH I think the only reason people watch him is to laugh at his rants.

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    Erik says:

    The "Freedom Award Recipient" really is a good laugh for us John Bruce.  I’m curious to just whose freedom you have ever defended?  That is not including the freedom you believe you have to lie and harass people.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

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    Erik says:

    Okay John Bruce, lets go over this again sloooowly.

    You know all of those ad banners you see on the gay porn sites you browse right?  Right, do you see any ad banners here?  No?  Then just where the fuck is this supposed traffic based income coming from?  To be quite technical if you are bringing more traffic to this site and using up more of its bandwith then you are COSTING it money.

    Ergo you won’t get a check, but you might get a bill.

    Please do try to engage your frontal lobes before you open your mouth.  Had you done that in the past maybe you wouldn’t be hitting up the unemployment office on the 26th.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

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    Kincyr says:


    Troll, noun
    An individual who chronically trolls; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand – they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he’s just a troll."

    I see nothing about being anonymous here. Sorry Jack, the term "anonymous troll" is not a redundancy.

    I don’t remember the name on your birth certificate containing the words "Freedom Award Recipient"

    岩「…Ace beats Jack」

  13. 0
    MaJeStIc_12_x says:

    I think that the years of misconduct, unprofessional behavior, and outright blatant lying have given Jack Thompson a "cranial menu". When presented with a situation, Jack can either "act like a dumbshit", "lie", "lie again", "make a paranoid statement", and "revert to nine-year old".

    I think we can assume here that Jack is using the "act like a dumbshit" (althought that’s almost always on, similar to an enabler) and "revert to nine-year old".

    Jack, if you cannot understand that this site does not generate revenue based on ads, maybe you are one the with fried frontal lobes.

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    MaJeStIc_12_x says:

    Good to hear that you sold the stock when you did Jack. With that out of the way, you now have some money to pay the fine you owe the Florida Bar for your misconduct, and you are no longer allowed at board meetings since you no longer own a share of the company. Two Jacks with one stone.

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    Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Epic win.

    That’s the first post I’ve done that hasn’t used a single curse word. ^_^

    Bonus points for no profanity.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

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    Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Uhh…HarmlessBunny? Was that meant for Jack, or were you actually responding to Keddren? Just wondering, since it sounds like something others might say to JT…..

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  17. 0
    Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Cramer, you idiot! The world does not revolve around the ‘need’ to make money. Take Two didn’t want to be devoured by the all-consuming monstrosity known as Electronic Arts! They wanted to keep their independence, to allow their own creative juices to flow without worrying what the big, bad executives at the top would say or whether thier ideas would be nixed for being too creative.

    On a side note: Jack Thompson, just shut the hell up. Strauss Zelnick is not an idiot; he’s just not a sell-out. Mr. Zelnick, if you’re reading this (if you ever read stuff on Game Politics), I commend you. Your stock prices may be in the shitter, but at least you didn’t fall prey to EA’s monopolistic, black hole-like business strategies.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

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    DavCube says:

    Make up your mind, Mr. Thompson, what presidential candidate ARE you voting for? First saying Palin is the next next president, then saying ‘president’ Obama is going to ban mature-rated sales to kids, now saying gamers are idiots for supporting Obama?

    Michelle was at my college, Keene State, a couple weeks ago. Plenty of studnets rallied to her husband’s cause. She was then on the Daily Show the following night.

    Your infantile insults were NOWHERE. As they should be.

  19. 0
    HarmlessBunny says:

    Go cry else where, ex-lawyer. You know he has a job and a life OUTSIDE of this website. So don’t expect an immediate response. Don’t you have something better to do? Afterall I do hear an ambulence in the distance…

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    SimonBob says:

    Say what you will about the man’s litigation skills, but he’s got the chops for financial planning.

    Got any tips you can share with me, Mr. Thompson?  A shrewd mind like yours could probably make an AO-rated killing on the futures index in this uncertain economic climate.

    The Mammon Industry

  21. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    wow that article is BS..


    ”"The fourth greatest moment in my life is this one," Thompson said. "For 21 years I have opposed the criminal distribution of adult entertainment to children because Jesus said if any of you should cause one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for you that a millstone be tied around your neck and you be cast into the uttermost depths of the sea."


    um didnt you famously insult a KID who had commited suicide on a gaming forum?

    Doesnt that  technically mean that that quote was nothing but you spewing forth lies?

  22. 0
    NovaBlack says:


    Err probably doesn’t understand the same part you dont you idiot. See below.


    Since this study began, The total number of times JT’s lobes have been bashed with the same simple information regarding the comments policy and spamming irrelavent documents, and has not been understood.. now stands at – 5

  23. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    Im going to post this Every time you post an irrelavant document, against the comments policy, and dont learn from your mistake.

    this is the FIFTH time now since i first started taking count, when you claimed youd ‘never broken the comments policy on GP’

    Lets see how many times something has to be repeated before JTS frontal lobes, fried from the stress of  disbarrment and failing at everything he attempts, grasp the simple concept of the comments policy.



    Since this study began, The total number of times JT’s lobes have been bashed with the same simple information regarding the comments policy and spamming irrelavent documents not been  understood.. now stands at – 5

  24. 0
    Zero Beat says:

    Understandable reaction for someone that’s looking at this purely from a profit standpoint.  However, I respect Zelnick for refusing to budge and retaining Take Two’s independence from one of the Big Bads.

  25. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    no its the ….21st. When did i say it was anything other? Learn how to read moron.

    You can use a magical device called a CAL-EN-DAR to work out at what point in the year it is Jack. The CALENDAR says you have what? 4 days to come out with this ‘surprise’ that’l prevent your disbarrment?

    you know.. the suprise you totally have in store… just like all the other suprises? You know, all those smoking guns and things that you know that we dont know and things behind the scenes I mean, you dont want to leave it too late jack, or youll end up looking stupid when you shout about not being given opportunity to defend yourself when you clearly were…. oh… wait… i forgot.. thats a strategy of yours isnt it?


    Oh and ps.. I love the fact that after you insulted me in the Thread about the call of duty kid, you didnt reply to the counter argument i posted that utterly wiped the floor with you.

    Its a great feeling to know that you read it and just sat there saying ‘but..but…but… but…. but… BUT… damn i cant think of anything!!.. *drool*’ and decided to ignore it.

    Perhaps your frontal lobes are fried from sitting around on your posting on game politics all day?

    Here’s an idea:  How about you get off your soon to be disbarred butt and write the makers of the Calendar to add extra days into the month, then the 25th will never arrive, and you’ll be a lawyer forever. Its about the best shot you’ve got Ace. 

    Then you can say you actually did something in your life to help yourself that actually succeeded. Hoo Haaa!

    NovaBlack, Sane and your not.





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    GoodRobotUs says:

    …Says the man who reguarly gets banned for breaking posting policies, and then uses workarounds, which are against the sites’ policies to continue breaking the sites’ policies?

    Don’t throw stones in a Greenhouse Jack.

  27. 0
    Brokenscope says:

    Jack, have you ever considered living a Christ like life? I suggest you look into it.

    Or you could start your own blog. Maybe throw some adds up there. Call it, "Jack thompson I’m a blogger and your not".


    Nah change "Blogger" to "Troll".

  28. 0
    Brokenscope says:

    Yes, it was insane, considering that Zelnick’s job is to make as much money as possible for all shareholders. What they would do with those properties post merger/buyout, has nothing to do with his decision, unless he truely believes that he could improve the stock price by not merging with EA.

  29. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    I’m sorry, Mr. Moderator, but what about not posting obscenities in this site’s posting policies do you not understand:


    So fuck you, Mr. Cramer.  Come talk to me after you’ve regained your sanity.

  30. 0
    Keddren says:

    Cramer is a gigantic asshole.

    This is the guy that encouraged his viewers to hound and harass AIG employees.  Not, mind you, the execs who decided that a multi-hundred-thousand resort trip was a good idea just days after recieving 80+ million from the government.  No, he advocated going after the rank and file workers, those who are arguably suffering the most due to the completely batshit decisions by senior management.

    So fuck you, Mr. Cramer.  Come talk to me after you’ve regained your sanity.

  31. 0
    DCOW says:

    your already on your second screen name, which means GP must have banned the first. which means we have no way of confirming that you are indeed who you say you are….. you anonymous coward.

  32. 0
    HarmlessBunny says:

    Here I thought the only one wearing a tin-foil hat in here was a sick lawyer who had it in for gamers, game companies, women, other laywers, gays, the Florida Bar, almost all forms of the government, weathermen who didn’t report about Ike as much as that lawyer initially wanted…,and anyone who has friends or family of "foes" of that particular laywer :)

  33. 0
    DCOW says:

    I guess you didn’t notice that entire debacle where the government was going to inject 700 MILLION DOLLARS into the economy that was begining to recess. but hey, what’s a gamer like me know?

    apparently quite a bit.

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    DavCube says:

    Mr. Thompson, the comments section of this site is NOT a place for you or anyone to copy their letters and filings. Such posting is against the policy that you signed up for. (Twice now, apparantly)

  35. 0
    sortableturnip says:


    Personally, I going to throw a gigantic "Jack’s been disbarred forever" party.  You’re not invited, though….

  36. 0
    Austin_Lewis says:

    Since I can’t edit this again, I’ll just make a second post.

    1) Mr Thompson, when is the last time you did real work that generated revenue?  As a lawyer, chances are you’re not salaried (actually, you might be salaried because you’re a terrible lawyer), so we’re in the same working class. However, I manage to generate revenue doing my work, and you appear to have not made any money doing anything except appearing on TV after you chase an ambulance.  Do you need a motiviational speaker?  I have a great one who’d be willing to help you kick off your post-disbarrment lifestyle in style.

    2) Once again, you received an award from a bunch of Religious Kooks for censoring people.  A greater group of hypocrites you’ll be hard pressed to find.  Let me tell you about freedom.  In a few hours, I’m going to the gunshop to pick up another box of .45ACPs.  Will I get Magtech, Remington, Speer, or will I just decide to load my own?  WHO KNOWS?  But I know that it is my choice, a freely made choice.  I don’t have to listen to you say ‘magtech was used in more murders’ or ‘remington is made in mexico by heathens’, and no one else does either.  Last night I picked up Fable 2.  Next week I’ll pick up Fallout 3.  If I want my son to play these games, he can play those games, and you have no right to tell me what I can and cannot buy for my child. That, sir, is CENSORSHIP.  You’re not doing a damn thing for freedom, you’re just trying to censor mine, and you should be ashamed of yourself like anyone who would try and circumvent the constitution should be ashamed of themselves (looking at you Brady Campaign)

  37. 0
    DavCube says:

    1) Mr. Thompson, you don’t HAVE a cable show.
    2) A ‘Pain in the Rear’ is something an attorney is not supposed to be. If you’re so dead-set on staying as one, you should know this.

  38. 0
    DavCube says:

    Mr. Thompson, the articles on the front page with the most comments have nothing to do with you or Take-Two. Most of them have to do with Little Big Planet, an E-Rated game.

    And for the last time, this site does NOT many money based on hits. You have no idea how the internet works. This site has no ads, the comments section isn’t a chat room, and yes, you ARE a forum troll.

    David "DavCube" Gagnon, Does Research, and You Don’t.

  39. 0
    DavCube says:

    Oh, for goodness’ sake, Mr. Thompson, it’s a pun. A crappy one at that. That should hardly warrant a response from someone as supposedly powerful as you.

  40. 0
    DavCube says:

    ….you just freaking admitted that you bought stock in the company just to harrass T2 and its employees. Do you WANT to be unemployed?

    David "DavCube" Gagnon, User of Common Sense, and You’re Not.

  41. 0
    Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson says:

    Jack, I thought I told you to shut up. You’re only digging yourself deeper until you do.

    "Locnil Fignirf," A.K.A. Shadow Darkman, Sane Human Church-Goer, And Jack Don’t Know He’s Burnin’.



  42. 0
    DavCube says:

    You would know most of our names by now if you took the time out of your so-called ‘busy’ day to read responses to your posts.

    My name is David Gagnon. If you want to do something about all this libelous content you claim is on the site, i’d be happy to represent the posters here in their entirety just to prove you wrong. I already gave you my e-mail address. Why won’t you take up this offer? You’re ‘too busy?’

  43. 0
    sortableturnip says:

    An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.  See Jack Thompson, soon to be disbarred attorney

  44. 0
    Eville1 says:

    John, you do realize that the above letter is why you’re being disbarred right? Not specifically of course but the lies contained in it. The same lies you repeat time and time again. The slander, the complete lack of factual basis as found by the courts already. All you’re doing is tilting at windmills my friend. You’re already in Florida, isn’t it time to retire with whatever dignity you have remaining? I would add Carl to the list of folks that are going to be waiting in line to take their pound of flesh from you when this is all over. Might want to start fattening yourself up now so there’s something left of you when it’s all said and done.

  45. 0
    DavCube says:

    Firstly: Thank you, Mr. Thompson, for changing your screen-name into something that isn’t a falsehood.

    Secondly: What happened to endorsing Sarah Palin? What was that letter to her for if you want Obama as president?

    Thirdly: What does that even have to do with Zelnick being an idiot with his money?

  46. 0
    DeusPayne says:

    You know what I do know? That $60 minus $29 is $31. Can you grasp THAT, Einstein? Sorry, but just because you lose money doesn’t mean that you should submit to someone that’s been losing MORE money. Oh, but wait… EA doesn’t fall into your random category of "devil incarnate", so of course you’d rather bash T2 some more.

    Perhaps you should learn a bit more about Wall St before siding with a lunatic. Oh wait, I guess insanity enjoys company.

  47. 0
    Austin_Lewis says:

    Oh man, you got an award from a bunch of Religious Nutjobs and Assholes!  High-Five Jack!

    What’s next; an award from the local militia?  Maybe a photo-op with the minutemen?  How about a picture in front of the graves of all the dead people who’s names you have dragged through the dirt with your reputation in order to fight with anecdotal evidence and lies?

    Wow Jack, what a great article.  From a reliable news source, no less!  What’s wrong?  Fox News not into you anymore?

  48. 0
    DeusPayne says:

    Ooh. Ouch. What next. You going to start calling people doodie face? Or maybe you’ll take your ball and go home. Nah, comparing you to an emotionally unstable child is an insult to emotionally unstable children everywhere.

  49. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    No, that would be FAR.  See i,5143,700240140,00.html.  Sorry you missed it.

    E. Zachary Knight, the moderator here, was there in his little tin foil hat and his "F–K Mormonism" sign.

  50. 0
    ezbiker555 says:

    1. Grow up and act your age. You’re a grown man for christ sake. A real man knows not to insult with childish remarks such as the ones you throw at us. Not to mention, it takes away from your diginity and competance.  A GENTLEMEN respects the opinions of others rather than attack them becasue they do not agree on the same views. You sir, are not a gentlemen.

    2. Nice change of your Username. Whats the matter? Afraid that you’ll get in trouble come this saturday. I thought you said you would win. You sir are  a liar and a coward. It times like those that you should keep mouth shut unless you can back up what your saying.

    3. Stop posting irrevelent information on here. We, the posters here, don’t want to hear it, it does nothing but waste everyone’s time on here. In fact, I can’t belive I have to sit here and explain these simple points to a 2 year old such as yourself.

    4. The fact that you continue to insult posters on here such as myself, is downright uncalled for. Prehaps the florida bar should see the way you act on here as well.

    5. Don’t even think about trying to prove your points to us. Everytime you try to, you fail becasue we, the posters on here, can and will disect it word by word and prove you wrong.

    6. You do not add to this site at all. THis site a is a alot more peaceful and intersting when YOU ARE NOT around. Everytime you come on here, you ruin the peace and queit and take away from the experience. Not to mention, you throw so many topics out of countrol such as this and it really takes away from this site.

    7. Your not getting any money from this site. I don’t know how many times everyone on here as to say that to you. Ad revenue isn;t part of this site. Its called donations and support. Those are two things you will never get in your life with your behavoir.

    8. To qoute you "Nope. sorry.  I owned stock to hassle the Board, which I did.  I guess you are mentally challenged not to be able to get that.  Get help." I think I will forward that comment to the Florida bar and see what they have to say about that.  You really screwed up big time.

    In short, just give it a rest. You can’t win Jack.

    That’s the first post I’ve done that hasn’t used a single curse word. ^_^

  51. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    Nope. sorry.  I owned stock to hassle the Board, which I did.  I guess you are mentally challenged not to be able to get that.  Get help.

  52. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    Cramer knows enough about stock to know that $27 minus $13 is $14.  Can you grasp THAT, Einstein?

    I guess not.  Hey, how’s your cable show going?  Jack Thompson, Pain in Your Rear and Glad to Be

  53. 0
    Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson says:

    LOL I didn’t even know about him until I saw this article.



  54. 0
    Ashkihyena says:

    "[EA’s offer was] an offer no sane man can refuse. But Strauss Zelnick, Take-two’s chairman did just that…"

    >.>;;;  Yeah, it had nothing to do with EA wanting to destroy Take-Two’s sports division, it had nothing to do with EA wanting to Borgify the GTA franchise, ugh.

  55. 0
    GoodRobotUs says:

    Oh, someone call a Waaambulance for this guy.

    All I see is yet another posting of your own petulant whining that is doomed to be deleted for irrelevance.

  56. 0
    HarmlessBunny says:

    Awwww Jack, not calling yourself attorney anymore? Is reality sinking into your skull? There there, it is almost over. I see you went through denial and anger already. It is good that finally acceptance is setting in. Now go and enjoy your retirement, by going else where (perhaps a different website and continent)! Thanks, bye!

  57. 0
    insanejedi says:

    I laugh at gamers who think they know a thing about buisness trading. Anyways, 2K sports games excluding NBA have now fallen in quality comapared to EA’s sports games. So unless you love NBA 2K9, if TTWO got bought, to you and me, it’s just buisness and has absoultly no effect on us. If anything that deal will bring us System Sock 3 since Kevin and EA will be together agian.

  58. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    Oh, I had Take-Two stock, as it was reported even here.  Speaking of the geniuses at Take-Two, get a load of what their attorneys are now up to, and in Dennis McCauley’s own hometown!

    EZK: Removed off topic letter.



  59. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    no no no lol,


    Jack said a couple days back that we ‘all had a suprise coming’ and that he would ‘still be a lawyer’ after the 25th.

    what?.. hot air you say?

    as usual you say?


    ahhhhh i shall have to rethink!


  60. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    nice to see you’ve changed your name jack. At least its accurate now.

    Shame the Freedom award means jack s**** though isnt it.


    in the same spirit, ill change mine to

    Novablack, his friends give him a gold star for being supercool, shame that doesnt actually qualify for anything in the real world.

  61. 0
    sortableturnip says:

    1)  The Freedom Award means absolutely NOTHING.  No one cares, so give it up!

    2)  Less than 4 days till you’re disbarred….tick tick tick….

    3)  Owning 1 share of stock in TT doesn’t make you a shareholder, it makes you a hypocrite.

    4)  You are a pathetic forum troll.

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    Krono says:

    What he’s going to get in an Obama Administration is a video game law that criminalizes the sale of Mature games to kids, and the entire industry can thank GTA for that development.

    Yeah, even assuming he wins, Obama’s going to have bigger things to worry about than trying to talk Congress into a law banning games. Also, seeing as his rhetoric on the subject has primarily been along the lines of "Parents need to take responsiblity for their kids." I’m not seeing any laws banning games so parents don’t have to worry. Probably a few initiatives to get parents to monitor kid’s play, and try and get their kids interested in other things, but no attempts at bans.


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    GoodRobotUs says:

    Not certain either way, it could be that his last account was banned, or simply that it’s yet another troll, there’s enough about on the Internet, and Jack is only one of them.

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    DeusPayne says:

    Not many people know less about stock than Cramer. He’s a panicer, a follower, and makes shit up. Who remembers all the money he lost people in telling them Bear Sterns was doing fine, and wasn’t in any trouble at all? Who remembers him going on TV a few weeks ago to say "Take all your money that you’ll need for the next 5 years out of the stock market"? Who remembers the fact that, HE’S A LAUGHING STOCK to any real investor?

    TTWO is doing about 5% better than the market on average. Yes, it is a bit lower than the inflated price during the takeover attempt, however, just like all the money in the stock market, it’s not real. The point that needs to be looked at is the fact that TTWO is trading at about -30% for the fiscal year to date. Yet the Nasdaq is trading a -35% for the year, and the Dow is aboust -31%. To me… that seems like a company that’s doing BETTER than average. Definitely not worthy of wall of shame. Perhaps Cramer forgot about all the bank execs that would be MUCH better suited to hanging their heads in shame.

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    Michael Chandra says:

    Real thing or not? Pretty sure Jack was wielding the whole attorney thing. Before I feel like commenting on this guy claiming he had stock, I want to know I’m wasting time on the real thing.

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    DeepThorn says:

    This guy is a dumbass.  TTwo’s stock has fallen less percentage wise than EA has over the past 3 months.  Yesterday was the first day EA has done better than TTwo for a while. Those who have invested in T2 have seen less loss in their money than EA stock holders, and it is looking like EA’s stock is not going to get back up to the 60’s any time soon if ever again.

    Now if they did accept the buy out EA’s stock would have fell a lot less, but in the long run, going with EA would have been a stupid choice for him and his stock holders.[IMO]  EA’s stock is only $31 per share right now, which is only $5 shy of what their offer was.  Though the offer inflated T2’s stock price, they were still only worth $17 [max I would say 16 to be honest, but I will give mad money the benefit of the doubt], which means that they have only fell $4 (-23.5%), while EA has fell from $48 to $31 (-35%).

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    Yes, Einstein, it’s not like everyone’s stock prices have dropped at all over the last few months or anything.

    And all of a sudden you’re supporting Obama, I thought you supported Palin, or maybe you just Flip-Flop to suit your own paranoias?

  68. 0
    Jack Thompson Freedom Award Recipient says:

    Hi, Jack Thompson here.  Your favorite.

    I noted well over a year ago, in May 2007, at this very site that Zelnick would be a disaster as Take-Two’s Chairman, and guess what, I was right.

    I sold my stock when it was at $26.  Glad I did.  Now I have better suits than Strauss’ Target threads.

    Seriously, folks, when I met with this clown in New York City on May 15, 2007, I could tell he was roughly half as bright as he thought he was.

    What he’s going to get in an Obama Administration is a video game law that criminalizes the sale of Mature games to kids, and the entire industry can thank GTA for that development.

    Another development is a shareholder revolt against this Self-Proclaimed genius.

    Jack Thompson

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    Xveers says:

    Agreed. While the goal is always to increase stock prices, that’s the -long-term goal. If a company can demonstrate that a takeover will in the long run be a bad decision, then the takeover dosen’t happen, no matter how much money is brought to the table.

    As for why the stock price spiked? Most deals like this AFAIK have stock exchange agreements, where shareholders in T2 would then get some EA stock in compensation as part of the deal. So you have a 27 dollar T2 stock certificate about to be exchanged for 50 dollar EA certificate. No suprise the value of T2 shares shot up as the takeover was being discussed…


    Best keep your wits about you: The gears of life are always spinning, and ignorance eventually means you’ll get caught in them.

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    Austin_Lewis says:

    They made the right decision when it came to rejecting EA’s offer.  They kept independent, and they’re still able to do as they damn well please.  I’m callin Mad Money as soon as I get around to it, because this is stupid.

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    Pinworm says:

     You bash supposed ignorance and yet you know nothing of basic business economics and proceed to justify Take Twos decision because "they make wonderful games". 


    Your lack of understanding explains you not understanding the correlation between corporate greed and T2 not accepting this deal, and your anger and insults only serve to put you clearly in the lines of Ignorance.


    Hypocrite. Wrong hypocrite.

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    shady8x says:

    A publically traded company has one job only.

    Its job is to consistently increase the price of the stock.

    By refusing to go through with the deal Zelnick went against everything his job required him to do.

    No stock buyer should ever invest in this company again since the company’s primary concern is not the interests of the people that own the company. Though any idiot that didn’t sell after a half a year of failed negotiations probably deserves to lose his money…


    That said, I am very glad this deal didn’t go through. I like that there is competition for EA but don’t kid yourself, the people hired to serve the owners, protected their jobs at the expense of the owners. So this is all about greed. This is just a case where greed worked in the best interests of us, consumers…

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    Vake Xeacons says:

    Amen to that! There’s more important things than money. But at least T2 HAS stock now. If they accepted the bid, it would be EA’s stock. Stauss did the right thing, rather than submiting to tyrants.

    Any dead fish can float downstream.

  74. 0
    DCOW says:

    seriously? are you for real?

    T2 WORSE than EA?

    hand in your e-penis, and get out of here. ignorant people anger me.

    I don’t know if you noticed, but the only time take two has been pathetic was when they denied the hot coffee scandal. beyond that they have been making wonderful games.


    also: you claim this is about greed? if that’s the case then why didn’t T2 accept EA’s offer to BUY them?

    seriously. ignorant people leave now.

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    Anomalous says:

    Greed? I seriously doubt that they didn’t see the stock price drop coming. If it was greed, they would’ve take EA’s offer; big money, that one.

  76. 0

    Yes, really. He’s almost the equivalent of Dr. Phil when it comes to his TV show. Only thing is that he has a vested interest in many of the companies he shills so even when they’re doing poorly, he’ll still hype them up and say they’re going to turn around. A nice example of that was Bear Sterns earlier this year and his trying to cover his ass.

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    the1jeffy says:

    Gray, excellent post.  I was going to post something similar, but there’s no point with your post being buried amongst the crap. 

    Mad Money is a show about the stock market made to entertain people who don’t actually make a living there, or be a farce for those that do.

    ~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~

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    Krono says:

    Feh. He refused the offer, and after EA finally gave up, the stock dropped back down to the 16-17 it had been trading at before the attempt at takeover. Then the whole stock market crashed by a few thousand points over the course of a week.

    Meanwhile EA had been trading at close to 50 for most of the year, and is currently lucky to be hitting 30. In short the economy has hit TTWO for 3-4 dollars a share, and hit EA for 15-20 dollars a share. Not being part of EA doesn’t sound all that bad when put in those terms.

    Of course this leaves out the fact that EA took it’s offer hostile for most of the year, and still failed to get anywhere. So the blame for the failed takeover goes not just to Zelnick, but to all the stockholders that backed him up.


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    Neeneko says:

    Even worse..


    caring about just the stock price I can understand, after all, that is what investors care about and they have a right to be interested in the bottom line that effecdts their lives.

    But Cramer and his ilk, they take it one step further and only care about the short terms stock price.  Destroy a comapny for a quick rise so the day traders can make a buck but th elong term investors get shafted.  People like him are not just destroying the game industry, they are destroying american industry and markets in general. 

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    eston says:


    It’s easy to look at stock values and say "well that was a stupid decision," but there was more at play than just money. T2’s credibility was very much at stake in that deal, and I for one am glad it did not go through.

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    DorkmasterFlek says:

    Perhaps it’s not about the cash?  People like Jim Cramer are what hurts the video game industry.  Three-piece suits who only care about their stock price.  The sooner we start treating game development less like a stock price to worry about and more like a form of artistic expression, the better.

  82. 0
    HarmlessBunny says:

    Simply he wanted Take Two to remain independant, despite the wall of cash EA was offering. Some people will just flat refuse to become part of the mega-corporation to remain what you are. I think his was a terrible decision but, it was his call through and through. I respect that he didn’t sell out for corporate cash…but will Take Two suffer for it? Time will tell.

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    Pinworm says:

     What competition? 


    Take Two is a joke and their decision was pathetic. I understand people like to cheer on the little guy, or rather, cheer the opponent of the big guy, but how anyone can cheer on Take Two is beyond me. They’re worse than EA, they’re a retarded company, and the only reason they refused EA is because of their greed. Now they have 13$ stock.

    Go Take Two!

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    Haggard says:

    Once Cramer’s finished up having his little orgasm over stock prices, I’d like to thank Zelnick for keeping his independence and continuing to produce competition for EA.

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