Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

October 21, 2008 -

Frenetic money man Jim Cramer named Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick to the "Wall of Shame" on his popular Mad Money program yesterday.

Cramer blasted Zelnick and a pair of CEOs from other companies for failing to accept takeover bids and then seeing their stock values collapse.

As has been widely reported on GamePolitics and other sites, Zelnick rejected a $25.74 acquisistion offer from Electronic Arts earlier this year. EA eventually walked away from the deal. The Grand Theft Auto publisher's stock (TTWO) will open at 13.15 this morning. Among Cramer's trashing of the T2 boss:

[EA's offer was] an offer no sane man can refuse. But Strauss Zelnick, Take-two's chairman did just that...

Welcome to the Wall of Shame, Strauss Zelnick. You managed to take a sure thing, a $25 stock and turn it into a $13 one. That takes talent.


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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Heh, the moment I saw the post count I knew Jack had commented. I mean seriously, the guy is as subtle as a tornado. Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I really have no intrest in Cramer or his show. Although, my brother says he's pretty funny to watch.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

 Actually, I've seen plenty of threads go to high post counts that don't have JT in them at all.

Controversy makes people chatty, is all.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

 Oy, Jacko - you got your ass banned, so you come back?

Dumbass, that's evidence for Cyber-Stalking, a federal offense.  Fuck's sake, I'm not even a lawyer, and I know that.  How dumb are you?  Wait, that's a rhetorical question - you're so goddamn dumb, you lost your license to practice law (and I mean practice in the loosest sense possible - you didn't really practice, you merely failed).

With a demonstrated IQ of a kumquat, I'm suprised you manage to find the right keys on the keyboard to type your idiotic drivel (nevermind that it is usually either summarily rejected or ignored).  Jack, you're irrelevant, and although your miniscule amount of grey matter may not be able to comprehend it, you only generate traffic here because we're LAUGHING AT YOU.  You're the biggest goddamn laughing stock the florida legal community has ever known, and in the gaming community you're only trailing Duke Nukem Forever for that same coveted title.

 

Freedom Award Winner?  Your freedom award was granted by a bunch of bigots.  There's no freedom in that, only tyranny.  That's like winning a "libery award" from neo-nazis - utterly useless.

The videogame industry doesn't need any more friends, you've driven more than enough into their camp with your utter lunacy.  You've failed completely, as an author, a lawyer, a crusader, a husband, a father, and a person.  Practice what you preach - go find a suicide game and get really good at it.  With your track record, you'll need all the luck and pracitce you can get to finally succeed at something.

 

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

I applaud Zelnicks decision to show EA the door. EA stands for so many things I've learned to hate in the world of video game marketing, and Take Two stands for so many things that should be loved by many.

 

Since EA bought and destroyed Origin, they can pretty much go to hell as far as I'm concerned. No chance for redemption there, especially not when you consider that EA would and has done it again and again, with other once successful studios and companies.

 

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

First off nobody in this state, outside of the ones who issued it, give a damn about about the Freedom Award. I've yet to talk to anyone who even knows what it is. An empty award given by organizers trying to save their dying festival means absolutly nothing.

Second since Take-Two was the first game publisher, that I know of, to use SecuROM 7 in their products they can burn in hell. 2K and EA are spiritual if not literal siblings.

This just illustrates a larger point. When money-suits attempt to profit off other's creativity the fans suffer.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Does anyone really care what this guy thinks? I mean wasn't this the guy who said that people were stupid to take their money out of a certain bank (I forget exactly) that then went bankrupt shortly after? Just because he's bald and shouts a lot doesn't mean he know **** about stocks.

TBH I think the only reason people watch him is to laugh at his rants.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

The "Freedom Award Recipient" really is a good laugh for us John Bruce.  I'm curious to just whose freedom you have ever defended?  That is not including the freedom you believe you have to lie and harass people.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Yeah, but...Cramer is a retard.

If people did things the way Cramer insisted, every company on earth would belong to three people.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Cramer, you idiot! The world does not revolve around the 'need' to make money. Take Two didn't want to be devoured by the all-consuming monstrosity known as Electronic Arts! They wanted to keep their independence, to allow their own creative juices to flow without worrying what the big, bad executives at the top would say or whether thier ideas would be nixed for being too creative.

On a side note: Jack Thompson, just shut the hell up. Strauss Zelnick is not an idiot; he's just not a sell-out. Mr. Zelnick, if you're reading this (if you ever read stuff on Game Politics), I commend you. Your stock prices may be in the shitter, but at least you didn't fall prey to EA's monopolistic, black hole-like business strategies.

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

From a stock point of view it would enhance TTs stock making the stock holders richer but from a indutry stand point it would futher stagnation.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Understandable reaction for someone that's looking at this purely from a profit standpoint.  However, I respect Zelnick for refusing to budge and retaining Take Two's independence from one of the Big Bads.

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

I'm sorry, Mr. Moderator, but what about not posting obscenities in this site's posting policies do you not understand:

Example:

So fuck you, Mr. Cramer.  Come talk to me after you've regained your sanity.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Mr. Thompson, how about you actually read them. I know it's hard to read anything that doesn't have your name on it, but DO at least try.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

 

Err probably doesn't understand the same part you dont you idiot. See below.

 

Since this study began, The total number of times JT's lobes have been bashed with the same simple information regarding the comments policy and spamming irrelavent documents, and has not been understood.. now stands at - 5

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

It's the moderator's decision whether or not to remove the objectionable material, not you.

So, go take a long walk off a short pier.

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

...Says the man who reguarly gets banned for breaking posting policies, and then uses workarounds, which are against the sites' policies to continue breaking the sites' policies?

Don't throw stones in a Greenhouse Jack.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Awwww, quoted by the resident cockblight.  I'm touched.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Saying you idiot is not an obsenity. It´s just natural... Go back to Utah.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Hey, I plan to go to Obama's campaign event here in Miami today.  His wife will be with him.  I'll report back here to let you know how many gamers are at the rally with T-shirts that read:  "I'm a gamer.  I'm a socialist.  I support Obama.  I'm a Moron."

Jack Thompson  http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/flbomomiami

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Make up your mind, Mr. Thompson, what presidential candidate ARE you voting for? First saying Palin is the next next president, then saying 'president' Obama is going to ban mature-rated sales to kids, now saying gamers are idiots for supporting Obama?

Michelle was at my college, Keene State, a couple weeks ago. Plenty of studnets rallied to her husband's cause. She was then on the Daily Show the following night.

Your infantile insults were NOWHERE. As they should be.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Breaking Story.....

"Obama applies the banhammer to local moron soon to be ex-attorney Jack Thompson"

Film at 11.....

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

One minute Flip, the next minute Flop...

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Jack, have you ever considered living a Christ like life? I suggest you look into it.

Or you could start your own blog. Maybe throw some adds up there. Call it, "Jack thompson I'm a blogger and your not".

 

Nah change "Blogger" to "Troll".

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Cramer is a gigantic asshole.

This is the guy that encouraged his viewers to hound and harass AIG employees.  Not, mind you, the execs who decided that a multi-hundred-thousand resort trip was a good idea just days after recieving 80+ million from the government.  No, he advocated going after the rank and file workers, those who are arguably suffering the most due to the completely batshit decisions by senior management.

So fuck you, Mr. Cramer.  Come talk to me after you've regained your sanity.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Go cry else where, ex-lawyer. You know he has a job and a life OUTSIDE of this website. So don't expect an immediate response. Don't you have something better to do? Afterall I do hear an ambulence in the distance...

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Uhh...HarmlessBunny? Was that meant for Jack, or were you actually responding to Keddren? Just wondering, since it sounds like something others might say to JT.....

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

It's cool.  I know who he was actually replying to :)

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Shock*

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

I laugh at gamers who think they know a thing about buisness trading. Anyways, 2K sports games excluding NBA have now fallen in quality comapared to EA's sports games. So unless you love NBA 2K9, if TTWO got bought, to you and me, it's just buisness and has absoultly no effect on us. If anything that deal will bring us System Sock 3 since Kevin and EA will be together agian.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

"[EA's offer was] an offer no sane man can refuse. But Strauss Zelnick, Take-two's chairman did just that..."

>.>;;;  Yeah, it had nothing to do with EA wanting to destroy Take-Two's sports division, it had nothing to do with EA wanting to Borgify the GTA franchise, ugh.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Yes, it was insane, considering that Zelnick's job is to make as much money as possible for all shareholders. What they would do with those properties post merger/buyout, has nothing to do with his decision, unless he truely believes that he could improve the stock price by not merging with EA.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

That guy is a real guy?!

I thought he was just a gag in the movie "Fun with Dick and Jane"

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

LOL I didn't even know about him until I saw this article.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Yes he is real, and all the money he makes on his show goes to charity.

Hey Jack Thompson

1. Grow up and act your age. You're a grown man for christ sake. A real man knows not to insult with childish remarks such as the ones you throw at us. Not to mention, it takes away from your diginity and competance.  A GENTLEMEN respects the opinions of others rather than attack them becasue they do not agree on the same views. You sir, are not a gentlemen.

2. Nice change of your Username. Whats the matter? Afraid that you'll get in trouble come this saturday. I thought you said you would win. You sir are  a liar and a coward. It times like those that you should keep mouth shut unless you can back up what your saying.

3. Stop posting irrevelent information on here. We, the posters here, don't want to hear it, it does nothing but waste everyone's time on here. In fact, I can't belive I have to sit here and explain these simple points to a 2 year old such as yourself.

4. The fact that you continue to insult posters on here such as myself, is downright uncalled for. Prehaps the florida bar should see the way you act on here as well.

5. Don't even think about trying to prove your points to us. Everytime you try to, you fail becasue we, the posters on here, can and will disect it word by word and prove you wrong.

6. You do not add to this site at all. THis site a is a alot more peaceful and intersting when YOU ARE NOT around. Everytime you come on here, you ruin the peace and queit and take away from the experience. Not to mention, you throw so many topics out of countrol such as this and it really takes away from this site.

7. Your not getting any money from this site. I don't know how many times everyone on here as to say that to you. Ad revenue isn;t part of this site. Its called donations and support. Those are two things you will never get in your life with your behavoir.

8. To qoute you "Nope. sorry.  I owned stock to hassle the Board, which I did.  I guess you are mentally challenged not to be able to get that.  Get help." I think I will forward that comment to the Florida bar and see what they have to say about that.  You really screwed up big time.

In short, just give it a rest. You can't win Jack.

That's the first post I've done that hasn't used a single curse word. ^_^

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

Epic win.

That's the first post I've done that hasn't used a single curse word. ^_^

Bonus points for no profanity.

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Hey Jack Thompson

^_^ It's amazing what a full night's rest does for you. Not to mention, I was expecting a lot more from his response but its clear that I drove my point right through his thick skull and it made clear. Plus, he becoming afraid of what's going to happen on saturday. The way he acts right now is a lot different than he did yesterday and a week before.

In short, He's loosing it.

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

When did  this site respect others' opinions?  Did Dennis McCauley sell the site?

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

Mr. Thompson, it's not the site disagreeing with you. Everyone posting here isn't in Dennis' basement.

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

This site respects opinions, it does not respect the garbage you spew onto this site.

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

Agreed. You have sunk below the level of a 19 year old man to the age of a newly born infant JT. It's pathetic.

Re: Hey Jack Thompson

Since when did you respect ours?

You get what you give.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Jack, I thought I told you to shut up. You're only digging yourself deeper until you do.

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Wow, looks like I'm still the only person who can generate any interest in this incredibly boring site.  Dennis, send me the check.  Oh, and I'm busy celebrating freedom in the meantime:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700240140,00.htm

 

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Okay John Bruce, lets go over this again sloooowly.

You know all of those ad banners you see on the gay porn sites you browse right?  Right, do you see any ad banners here?  No?  Then just where the fuck is this supposed traffic based income coming from?  To be quite technical if you are bringing more traffic to this site and using up more of its bandwith then you are COSTING it money.

Ergo you won't get a check, but you might get a bill.

Please do try to engage your frontal lobes before you open your mouth.  Had you done that in the past maybe you wouldn't be hitting up the unemployment office on the 26th.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

I think that the years of misconduct, unprofessional behavior, and outright blatant lying have given Jack Thompson a "cranial menu". When presented with a situation, Jack can either "act like a dumbshit", "lie", "lie again", "make a paranoid statement", and "revert to nine-year old".

I think we can assume here that Jack is using the "act like a dumbshit" (althought that's almost always on, similar to an enabler) and "revert to nine-year old".

Jack, if you cannot understand that this site does not generate revenue based on ads, maybe you are one the with fried frontal lobes.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

wow that article is BS..

 

''"The fourth greatest moment in my life is this one," Thompson said. "For 21 years I have opposed the criminal distribution of adult entertainment to children because Jesus said if any of you should cause one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for you that a millstone be tied around your neck and you be cast into the uttermost depths of the sea."

 

um didnt you famously insult a KID who had commited suicide on a gaming forum?

Doesnt that  technically mean that that quote was nothing but you spewing forth lies?

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

your celebrating something that took place about 3-4 months ago? daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn your slow.

Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

You sure have a lot of free time, right? Unemployed clown...

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Re: Mad Money's Cramer Adds Take-Two's Zelnick to Wall of Shame

Mr. Thompson, the articles on the front page with the most comments have nothing to do with you or Take-Two. Most of them have to do with Little Big Planet, an E-Rated game.

And for the last time, this site does NOT many money based on hits. You have no idea how the internet works. This site has no ads, the comments section isn't a chat room, and yes, you ARE a forum troll.

David "DavCube" Gagnon, Does Research, and You Don't.

 
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