Cops Organize Big Search for Missing Gamer; Mom Clings to CoD4 Theory

After 11 days, 15-year-old Canadian gamer Brandon Crisp remains missing.

Rewards in the case have increased to $20,000, while a message on the Facebook group Where is Brandon Crisp? outlines a major volunteer search effort that will begin today and last through the weekend:

The public search for Brandon will take place Friday – Sunday October 24 – 26. The command centre for the search each day will be located at Burl’s Creek in Oro, and teams will be organised there to search throughout Oro and Orillia.

In addition to ground-searching, volunteers may be asked to perform support-related duties for the search, canvass neighbourhoods and post flyers in high-traffic locations.

The Command centre will operate Friday Saturday and Sunday from 10 am through 5 pm. As we expect many volunteers, we ask for patience while we organise each volunteer into proper roles; we need to make sure we execute the search to the best of our ability.

Canada’s cnews reports that Brandon’s distraught mother, Angelika Crisp, clings to the idea that he was taken by a fellow gamer:

She insists her son was taken by some misfit teammate who may be participating in a bizarre video game that has somehow crossed over into reality.

Crisp said her son was "addicted" to the terrorist war game, Call of Duty, and might have met up with team players online.

"I think someone has him," Crisp said.

In addition to the Facebook group (which now has over 9,200 members), a website has been established at

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  1. Austin_Lewis says:

    Begging your pardon Dennis, but methinks that perhaps exgamer feels the need to lie because he, you know, has no basis for most of the things he says.

  2. DarkSaber says:

    I second what Parallax said.


    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  3. txshurricane says:

    Slander? Libel? Come on, you know as much as anyone else that in order for that to stand, you have to show evidence that your reputation has somehow been affected by this. And it hasn’t.

  4. gamepolitics says:

    NB – I’m not sure it’s reasonable to expect that non-gaming parents, especially under these circumstaces,  have a precise grasp on release dates, etc. He may have been using some earlier version of CoD or some other FPS…

  5. gamepolitics says:

    C’mon, DT… there’s no call to go there. I’m sure the police are checking every angle. You’ve got to remember, the parents are under enormous stress.

  6. gamepolitics says:


  7. exgamerdotnet says:

    Let’s put the "Brandon’s father packed his bag" business to rest please.

    From my contact at the CTV National News:

    Hey Brad,

    Spoke to some people at the (Toronto) bureau working on this story. They’ve been following the story pretty closely have not heard anything remotely close to what you described.  Sounds like crazy internet sensationalism to me.

    If you have a major media or police source that differs from this, I would dearly love to hear it.


  8. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    She’s got bigger shit to focus on than the number of the game of the series her son was playing. And you yourself point out that this is a "small" thing. Hysteria tends to make it difficult to focus on small tidbits of information.


    Now, if you had meant something along the lines of it being odd for her not to know the name of the game that she claimed her son was supposedly addicted to (addiction being a very "big" thing), then I would kinda agree, albeit in a less…harsh manner. After all, from my experiences most parents who don’t play video games ; every one kinda seems to run together to them…



    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers!

    -The Buck Stops Here.

    -Thou Shall Not Teamkill, Asshole.

  9. Neeneko says:

    Unfortunatly addiction centers tend to focus on well known (read: profitable) addictions that they can train staff quickly with a rote patterns for addressing it.  Also unfortunatly it sounds like the people who are trying to focus on it are again going for a high profil money maker with lots of shock value.  Same with porn addiction.  These are the technitions of the medical world… not much better then just using a self help book unless you EXACTLY fit their script.

    Hrm.  If you are near a major medical center with a good research psych dept you might have more luck.  Upenn and Univ of Pittsburgh are both examples that likly have good generalists on staff…. or at least people with a good grasp of general theory.

  10. lizwool says:

    Neeneko, you are right.  Video game addiction IS like any other addiction, and should be treated as such.  I have attempted to get many people help at the traditional addiction centers – their responses are:  we only treat drugs and alcohol.  I think that is so LAME.  And of course, many professionals have never seen anyone addicted to games, so they have no clue about what to do, or if it even exists.  Many people looking for help have been laughed and and insulted by professoinals because of this.


  11. nightwng2000 says:

    Ok, I did cross some lines to create a confusing statement.  I said if COD4 (the game) was NOT to blame, then I said the COD4 community (the community of players of the game).

    Still, if they are blaming the community as a whole, it’s still slander, libel, and fraud, as much as if I went around blaming the WHOLE of the Christian community for the acts of Eric Rudolph.


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  12. Miang says:

    I don’t know what happened to this kid, but I doubt he is just at a friend’s house. The police would surely have found him by now if that was the case. The whole order of events in this sitation bothers me.

    1. Aproximately three years ago the boy starts playing a version of Call of Duty. (I’m going with the assumption that the parents are simply stating Call of Duty 4 because that is the most recent version he has been playing)

    2. Over time his parents start to feel his play is out of control, however they buy further versions of the game for him and continue to pay his Live account fees.

    3. After three years of addictive behaviors they decide to take the console away from Brandon. They hide it, but he finds it at least once and resumes his playing habits. They hide it again and presumably he does not find it a second time. (Does anyone know if this is correct?)

    4. The boy becomes angry with his parents and threatens to leave home because they aren’t allowing him to play the game. His father thinks that leaving will somehow be a good lesson for him and helps him pack his bag as well as giving him directions to where he wants to go.

    5. Brandon leaves the house with his things on a mountain bike. As far as we know he had no opportunity to contact anyone via Xbox Live because of lack of access to the system.

    6. He rides his bike 20 klicks from his house to a hiking trail where he apparently has some kind of problem with it and abandons it on the road.

    7. He encounters a local resident while walking down the path and speaks with her breifly regarding his broken bike.

    8. There has been no contact from Brandon either on the internet or any other means since that day.

    9. The parents make several statements to the press, including stating that their son could have been in trouble with "the mob, internet gamblers" and that he could have meant with some "team player" participating in a "bizzare video game that has somehow crossed into reality". They also state that he could be hiding out in one of the houses nearby that is used only seasonally, enjoying their amenities. However the father subsequently states his belief that Brandon would never put them through all this if he knew how they were suffering because he is "good at heart".

    As far as I know these are the facts we are being presented with. I have a lot of questions. I would like to know when he was reported missing, for example. The parents have said his grades were suffering. I would like to know how badly. (If he went from straight A’s to B’s that’s one thing, but if he went to failing that’s something else.) I would like to know if he had other problems at home, or if he was having problems at school; perhaps with other students. I doubt that he just disappeared and is wandering the streets. I won’t rehash all the facts that point away from him being an actual addict, others have beat that horse to death already. I do think that the parents have been at the least irresponsible. It seems to me that there are many steps they could have taken to deal with their sons’ problems before it got to this point. However that is not really important at this point. What matters is what actually happened to Brandon. At this point I suspect everyone. His friends, people at his school, his parents. There simply isn’t enough information to narrow down the list of people who might know something about what happened to him. I hate to say it but at this point it is almost certain that he has either been abducted or killed. The likelihood that he simply left and hasn’t been seen or heard from is pretty remote. If his parents weren’t involved in their son’s disappearance then they have my deepest sympathies. However my greatest sympathy goes out Brandon himself who is obviously in trouble.

  13. GrimCW says:

    there so bent on this gimp theory i wonder if they actually know more their letting on.

    more than likely though its just the grief, but it still sounds bad when someone clings so tightly to a theory like that with very little evidence to back it up.

    what i find worse is the negligence the parents had for their kids online activities and little knowledge of those he played/talked to and about what.

    any kid should know you NEVER give out personal info online to strangers, let alone in person to strangers. But since they know he hasn’t logged in AFTER he had the system taken and he went missing, then info must have been traded before hand.


  14. JustChris says:

    Instead of trying to get the most viewers in one fell swoop, the media can report on more than one missing person. Make it a missing white person AND a missing black person (or Hispanic, etc), and you would get even more viewers with those two stories combined.

    As far as missing women go, I think it’s the helpless "damsel in distress" archetyp that gets people to feel more worried for a woman.

  15. NovaBlack says:

    yeah statistically the chances of being abducted by a sex offender are 1 in 1.5 million

    thats the same chance as being struck by lightning!

  16. Xveers says:

    No, but you still can sue for libel and slander. The main issue for that would be to prove that A) the mother knew that COD wasn’t a driving force behind his dissapearance (perhaps being instead a trigger AKA straw that broke the camel’s back sort of thing) and B) that the publishers of COD & related business associates took real and significant damage either to their reputation or financial business.

    As you can guess, that’s a mite difficult. Is why you don’t really see slander and libel suits in general as proving A) and B) aren’t the easiest of things…

    Best keep your wits about you: The gears of life are always spinning, and ignorance eventually means you’ll get caught in them.

  17. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Yeah, I put that under scenario C. I chose not to suggest a particular type of kidnapper because of the many motivations kidnappers can have.


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick…

  18. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Humor, VH, humor…


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick…

  19. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Slow your roll Captain, it’s not that serious. She’s distraught. I’d be more concerned if she wasn’t acting all frantic.


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick…

  20. magic_taco says:


    e.He could have been abducted by a pervert,As i sent a link a few days back conernig a missing kid, as a said, Certain missing kids and runaways can be targeted by creeps who want to use them fortheir own disgusting pleasures, America has the same problems we have with often missing kids, If canada does have an Amber alert the i pray they use it ad hopefully find him safe and sound, Since a few days past, Im hoping nobody here lost hope, Im hoping he comes home safe to his family and not in a casket like most missing children end up on ad its usually done so by a pervert.

    The parents ougtha be locked up for child endangerment, They know what they done and they’re using a very crappy scapegoat that i hope gets proved wrong.

  21. Pierre-Olivier says:

    You’re right. This is why I didn’t said anything about this case. I didn’t want to point the finger at the parents because something tells me that there’s a lot that we don’t know yet. And blaming the parents won’t make him reappear.

    I’m really concerened about the boy because a year ago, a little girl disappeared and everyone were looking for her (there were "Have you seen her" poster everywhere. 12 months later and she still haven’t been found (not even as a corpse). I just hope the same thing won’t happen with this boy.

  22. hellfire7885 says:

    IF that was done history would repeat itself all over again.


    Sorry, but that sounds exactly like an over involved father threatening to shove his son into military school over one B+ on a report card.

  23. VideolandHero says:

    We already established that he wasn’t "addicted" to Call of Duty 4.

    — Official Protector of Videoland!

  24. NovaBlack says:

    bravo! thats what i was trying to get across.. i dont see how she can demonize something when its clear they cant have it both ways.

    If it was as serious  an ‘addiction’ as they claim,  they didnt do near enough. (paying for his Xbox live.. just.. wow.. i see that personally (i am not saying im right) as ‘bad parenting’. )

    Like Parallax Abstraction said, Its unfair to blame something, hell , to blame anything,  with absolutely no basis.

  25. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Yeah…this is turning into a wicked clusterfuck. I just hope the poor kid’s not dead.


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick…

  26. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Indeed. And it’ll probably turn out he was actually addicted to Barbie Horse Adventures…



    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick…

  27. nightwng2000 says:

    Well, that’s a pretty sick response.  Are you actually wishing something bad to happen to my son so you can swoop in with your agenda "blame the video game"?

    They don’t loose their kids to the games, as I’ve pointed out in another article.  They loose them because they don’t take responsibility for their own actions.

    The kid, from the sounds of it, had no diversity in his life.  They didn’t encourage a diverse lifestyle, so when they punished him by taking away his apparent sole activity, he had nothing to fall back on. 

    So, instead of offering factual information, you swoop in and blame video games.  And it really must please you that there is "so little help out there" and there are people out there asking "why did this happen?" because now you can fill in their concerns with fearmongering and misinformation.

    While there is the possibility that he may have been lured away by an internet criminal, the fact is that those criminals exist in a great many online environments, not just video games.

    The fact is that I encourage my son, not always successfully but better than no success, to have a diverse activity base so when he is punished and grounded from one activity, he has other activities to fall back on.

    From the reports, the boy spent a great deal of time on a single activity.  Very little other activities.  And whose fault was it that that was not under control?  The Parents.  They ARE Parents, after all.  They should act like it.

    I usually don’t like blaming Parents in general for a lack of responsibility, but clearly from this story, the Parents were less responsible as maintaining their child’s exposure to the world around him and more succumbing to his desires and wishes.  Now, they are paying the price, as horrible as it is, but they still refuse to take responsibility for their actions, or lack thereof.


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  28. Neeneko says:

    I think part of the problem is people look for video-game specific help as if game addiction is some new, unique thing that is fundementally differnt and scary.

    Traditional anti-addiction techniques are a good place to start, plenty of help out there.

  29. Neeneko says:

    Ah, but this is America, where the government will often support attempts to sue people in other countries if the plantif is loud enough.

    Plenty of times some American has been pissed with someone at anount country (where they did nothing wrong) and got the US government to cause the person real trouble.  An example would be the foriegner has to travel here (at their own expense) to defend themselves, if they don’t there is always the ‘if you ever enter the country you will be arrested’ issue, and some assests are considered suffiently international (trans-national banks) they the plantif could go after them.

    All sorts of nasty things someone can do,.. just being elsewhere isn’t enough.

  30. txshurricane says:

    The parents aren’t blaming the game, they’re blaming the people who play the game. COD4 doesn’t need defending…WE do. And it’s thanks to the racists and trolls that we have a bad name.

  31. txshurricane says:

    I don’t see where the parents blamed COD4. I see where they blamed the child for playing too much COD4, and they blamed the Xbox Live community, which is not without the lion’s share of riff-raff.

  32. Zaruka says:

    in a police investagation they should consider ever path open to them and the path i see that should be look at is the dad becuse appelaty he help the kid pack his things. hopefully the kid is okay but i doubt he hiding at a freind house since that the frist place the cops would check unless he has friends his parents did not know anything about which would be their fault for sure for not knowing who he hangs out with.

    thats my thoughs as of right now.

    Thanks Zaruka

  33. GoodRobotUs says:

    He’s certainly going to need counselling, though I’d personally reserve judgement as to which kind until we have reasons, rather than theories.

  34. VideolandHero says:

    They aren’t bad parents because they let him play M rated games.  M rated games don’t hurt your children.  And M rated games didn’t make that kid run away.

    — Official Protector of Videoland!

  35. Volomon says:

    That mother is crazy, no wonder he split.  Shes seeing monsters in the shadows.  Time to check into the ward.

  36. Parallax Abstraction says:

    The parents likely bought him the console.  The parents likely bought him the M rated game he wasn’t supposed to be playing.  The parents are the ones who let him play it to a level they are now calling an addiction.  And they are now blaming this supposed habit that they were ignorant of until now as the reason for his kidnapping.

    I feel for their situation but please explain to me how calling them on this strategy of blaming this on something they allowed to happen and ignored makes us bad people?  I am not saying they’re bad parents.  They may in fact be good parents.  But if they’re going to irrationally blame a medium for this with no basis for it, we are not evil for telling them they’re wrong.  If they are not sure if the real cause, they shouldn’t be going in front of cameras and throwing unfounded accusations.  That they are going through a tough time is something I feel for but that doesn’t give them the right to demonize anything, whether games or otherwise.

  37. Parallax Abstraction says:

    "These are concerned parents whose son is missing.  They get a load of slack for being irrational, they’re most likely out of the minds with grief, fear and worry.  You’ve probably all said some pretty dumb shit at your most emotional, I know I have."

    I can respect this and my heart does go out to them (in spite of the fact that they didn’t seem to know what their son was doing but are now blaming it) but if you’re this grief stricken, maybe you shouldn’t be talking to the press.  They don’t seem so distrot that they can’t go in front of a reporter and spew this nonsense about what’s to blame.

  38. Jabrwock says:

    It’s more "you don’t speak ill of the dead" syndrome. Unless the person is absolutely HATED by their community, they are automatically described as "loved by everyone at school" after a tragic death. Especially in cases where they were the innocent bystander.

    — If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap…

  39. GoodRobotUs says:

    Guys, pointing fingers at the parents is no better than pointing fingers at the video games, there are so many factors that we are not aware of in this case, purely because the Police are not going to release those facts, since they may prove salient at a later date.

    As I said earlier, if Brandon left on the night of the argument, or after the XBox had been banned, then how did he manage to arrange a meeting with anyone, he would already have been isolated from those potential ‘threats’? There’s more to this than we are aware, and we all need to keep that in mind, it may not be the parents’ fault, it may not be the videogames fault, Brandon may be in danger, Brandon may not be in danger, he may even have been so terrified by the response to his dissapearance that he’s too scared of coming back because of the trouble he thinks he might be in, and, if he is staying with a friend, they might feel the same way.

    I’m concerned primarily for the boy, and I think that pointing fingers right now is more of a distraction than a productive thing to do, there are no answers, and there will be no answers until Brandon is found, so assuming it’s bad parenting is just as non-productive as assuming he’s been taken by some kind of Internet predator.

    Right now, minds, and options, need to be left open for the Police, and I think assuming anything right now could close avenues of investigation that otherwise would not have been overlooked, and that could make all the difference.

  40. lizwool says:

    All I can say, if they do get him back, what on earth are they going to do with him?  I’d ship him over to Amsterdam, before he could sit down!  Keith will take care of him!


  41. lizwool says:

    I appreciate your sense of compassion, Trails, which from reading other posts here, it appears few in this forum have, for anyone except the gamer!


  42. SimonBob says:

    That girl went missing just down the road from me at Carleton U.  They found her body in the Rideau River.  I really hope the same thing didn’t happen to Brandon.

    Also, nobody really reads the comments at, do they?  Their ignorance on everything from politics to hockey is frankly astounding.

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  43. lizwool says:


    Too bad you don’t know what parents go through when they loose their family member to   __________  games.

    I know, I have been there.  It is heart breaking for the family members.  Family members are at a loss as to what to do about it when it does happen, because there is so little help out there.




  44. Moriarty70 says:

    There’s been some debate about that, and I can’t help but think it wouldn’t have gotten the lead story for a month straight on the evening news. Besides, when I hear "Bright Future" and "Loved by everyone at school" I can’t help but thing WGS. Since everyone is disliked by somebody.

  45. Jabrwock says:

    She didn’t become the poster child for handgun bans because of her race, but because she was an innocent bystander caught in the crossfire during a boxing-day shootout in a popular market. She was the only one killed during the entire gunfight. A completely random death.

    — If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap…

  46. Trails says:

    What?  She gets the name of a videogame slightly wrong and she’s a bad parent?  That’s quite the reasoning leap, my friend.  Just because she can’t get the title of a game correct doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a handle on what her kid is playing.

    Anyways, the video game named is simply "call of duty", so how’s that wrong?  Further, it’s named by the author of the article, not in a quote, i.e. it’s no directly attributable to her.

    You’re condeming her for getting a video game title slightly wrong when she’s been freaking out for 11 days.  She probably hasn’t slept, and, to quote her  "I haven’t stopped crying… Every time the phone rings, I go hysterical."  Show at least a little compassion.

    I’m not saying her theories on video games hold much water, but calling her a bad parent is just ridiculous.

  47. ecco6t9 says:

    It’s a sad story.


    But I always roll my eyes at people who blame something else rather than looking into the mirror.

    99% of the time that’s where the blame lies.

  48. barra_sadei says:

    Um… I think the biggest hole in this story is the game they keep reference (CoD4), but…

    Alright. I read in an article that the father originally hid the Xbox in his bathroom vanity, but the boy found it, which the father caught him playing it… again. Then, the father moved the Xbox to his WORKPLACE. I don’t remember if the article said he took the game as well, but since the father seems to not know much about video games in general, he probably left it in the consule itself. Even then, the game case has to be SOMEWHERE. They can easily look up the name of the game.

    I’d rather not believe in foul play, but I do believe in the straw that broke the camel’s back… I leave foul play as a constant possibility. No matter who the parents are, there’s always the possibility of abuse, neglact, or endangerment. My girlfriend is living proof of that (and has so far survived her evil mother, too).

  49. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Hmmnnmmm….I understand pointing a finger towards videogame addiction, after all, in a situation like this, a person has to be open to all possibilities. But, that’s something I’m not seeing. Why have the parents only considered the game addiction theory? Have they (or the investagators, who are supposed to be trained professionals) even considered any other possibilities? I mean, they really are sticking hard to the addiction thing…really hard…

    A person who’s addicted doesn’t just abandon the addiction, so this kid is either:

    a)Somewhere he can play his games.

    b)Using new online accounts (if he’s really addicted, losing badges or whatever it is COD uses won’t matter).

    c)He was kidnapped.

    d)He is deceased. If he’s deceased, causes that come immidiately to mind are:

              a)He’s died of exposure to the elements post departure.

               b)He’s died of starvation post departure.

                c)He’s been murdered, either by someone close to him, or by a stranger following his dissapearance.

                 d)He was kidnapped and killed, either by a loved one, or a stranger.

  50. Mattie says:

    This is a tragic example of how parents can’t just buy their kids a $400 system and hope everything will sort itself out in the long run. Parents PLEASE stay informed of what your kids are doing!

  51. GoodRobotUs says:

    I find what she says somewhat hard to believe in the context it is given, but stranger things have happened.

    I’m prepared to wait until we have the facts, if Brandon left on the night of the argument itself, then there would have been no time for such a rendezvous to be arranged, but I don’t know if he did, either way, without access to XBL I can’t see how some online stalker could have organised to meet Brandon, I’m assuming Brandon had no access from the point of the argument.

    I hope he’s found safe and well, and then we will find out the real story, whether it was a question of addiction, or purely anger at his parents.

  52. NovaBlack says:

    see for me its not even that which id say was ‘bad’


    Its the fact that not only did she not know the name of the game, Its coupled with the fact she alleges he had a serious 3 year addiction.. I mean THAT is a problem, if she was genuinely seriously concerned, then she what.. didnt even pick up the game in a 3 year period to see the name?

    If thats the case It was either

    A) not an addiction at all

    b) an addiction that, as a parent, she wasnt that bothered enough about to look at the name of the game, in 3 years.

  53. HilaryDuffGta says: (and boom goes the dynamite)



    Trails…she has no idea what game her son was even playing..i’m sorry but if you cant keep track of something as small as that then in my book you are a bad parent…why parents dont keep up wiht their kids and w hat they play and monitor there gaming time if the arent anywhere near 18..its not that difficult to do

  54. Trails says:

    Guys, please, lets take it easy.

    These are concerned parents whose son is missing.  They get a load of slack for being irrational, they’re most likely out of the minds with grief, fear and worry.  You’ve probably all said some pretty dumb shit at your most emotional, I know I have.

    The mom’s assessment of video games and CoD is way off, but that’s no reason to call her a bad parent.

    I really hope they find this kid safe and sound.

  55. Bennett Beeny says:

    Look folks, the fact is, this kid has probably topped hissen.  The mother is probably thinking (subconsciously) that abduction is a better fate than suicide.

  56. Moriarty70 says:

    It’s okay everyone. I just saw one of the posters in my local paper and it’s not the Video Game Industry’s fault. It’s clearly a knockoff game he was playing since the poster refers to "Tour of Duty 4". And if that’s the case it must have been a modded X-box which means he is a criminal anyways so nothing to worry about.

  57. Loudspeaker says:

    The biggest hole comes from the Father’s statements.  Brandon’s father claims to have helped him pack a backpack with undisclosed contents and show him on a map how to get to where he wanted to go, yet no one can find him and there has been one eye witness account of him the day he left home.

    If Brandon asked about a specific destination then wouldn’t that be where he was headed?  I understand he could go somewhere else or get lost, however you would have a general direction he was headed.  Also, the destination isn’t divulged.  Doesn’t that strike you as just a bit odd when you’re looking for someone?

    Brandon’s parents are blaming his behavior on a video game addiction to COD except:

    A) If you’re an addict you’d want what you’re addicted to and he didn’t take the Xbox nor does it appear he’s logged in under his Xbox live account

    B) His parent’s story keeps changing about the game

    C) His parent’s "know" he was abducted by another gamer, but can’t say who

    The most disturbing part of all of this is that the kid is still missing.  That leads to a conclusion of he’s with a well known friend or family member who’s protecting Brandon at his request due to possibly home life, I don’t know, there isn’t enough evidence at this point to know precisely why Brandon really left, but there is enough information to know it wasn’t simply because the Xbox was taken away.  The other conclusion is Brandon has met with some bad luck and has been killed.  I’m really hoping it isn’t the latter.

    "Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

  58. NovaBlack says:

    like i keep saying.. it CANT be COD4!

    COD 4 – released nov 4th 2007

    doesnt anybody else find it WIERD that apparently he had a ‘3 year’ addiction to this game, even tho it didnt exist for the first two years?

    If the game was that ‘evil’ and her son was genuinely an ‘addict’ im sorry, if i was a parent id be worried enough to learn the name of the game that he was addicted to for the first 2 years of this terrible ‘addiction’.

    Oh and i wouldnt have paid for xbox live so he could play.

    And i wouldnt have let him play an M rated game.

    And i wouldnt have packed his bag to help him run away.


    Just sayin, i REALLY hope he turns up fine, genuinely. But the story is so full of strange errors its untrue.

    Surely if her son played the game every day, she’d know the game like the back of her hand (i mean the first 2 years it couldnt have even been COD4! that only leaves the WW2 CODs.. which you cant easily confuse with terrorists..) .

  59. Doomsong says:

    Nah, a CoD cult would spend all it’s time fighting with the Halflife cults out there, not enough time to abduct kids.

    Seriously though you’re right… this sounds a whole lot like the JonBenét Ramsey case.

  60. sirdarkat says:

    Yeah it was video games I mean look at those stats if we go with Kidnapped as they are presumbably claiming since their child is being held by some cult that means a 50 in 60000 chance, yes that is the obvious choice not the 40000 in 60000 I ran away because I didn’t like my parents chance … no their family is perfect and therefore their child would never want to run away it must be the 50 in 60000 chance.

    I have learnt nothing from History, for History is obviously a bunch of lies to destroy my perception of the world.

  61. ChrowX says:

    Sounds like the Parents like to watch CSI… Seriously, a videogame that crossed into reality? Does she know what game he was actually playing, because I know CoD4 was good, but it’s not that good, and unless this kid’s teammates were illegal arms dealers who own giant stretches of secluded property where they hold human deathmatches, I don’t think any aspect of the game could’ve ‘crossed over’.

    The biggest problem in all of this is that the kid didn’t take the xbox with him, and unless he’s been playing unsupervised for so long that they parents didn’t notice him swapping phone numbers over the headset or hecking what kind of messages he’s been sending back and forth then I don’t really think CoD4 can be blamed. It’s fair to blame hysteria and emotional trauma for their otherwise moronic response to the situation, but still, this really does prove that these parents don’t know anything about their kid, what games he’s playing, or any of his friends.

  62. Jabrwock says:

    We don’t have "missing white girl" syndrom as bad here in Canada. There was a little native girl in Saskatchewan who went missing, and although the investigation focused on the relatives, the media here was plastered with efforts to find her. The police eventually scaled back the search 2 years later, although there’s still a $25,000 reward for information leading to finding her.

    — If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap…

  63. Point of Heaven says:

    My friend was half white and half misc (as in enough to darken her skin), and she got a missing persons report last march over in Ottawa that spread across Ontario.

    No one will take the gaming community seriously in cases like this. Have you all been over to and look at the comments for this story over? They’re all saying we’re spoiled brats and since, apparently, not a lot of gamers of parents, we have no clue what to say about parenting. *Smacks head in desk*

    What people and parents don’t know is that the gaming community knows more about themselves than the outside world, in terms of these online games, knows. I don’t know, have the parents tried to access their child’s in game information and ask the people on his friendslist in-game?

  64. Christian Astrup says:

    As was mentioned, this is a clear example of Missing White Woman syndrome. Basically, because the child fits the average-everything (White, middle class, etc) it affects a lot of people on an emotional level and is therefore even crispier to the media. They’re not being racist – they just know it gives more viewers/readers.

  65. DarkSaber says:

    Even though the child in question is a boy, this is still pretty much a textbook case of ‘Missing White Girl Syndrome’.


    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  66. Ashton says:

    I don’t want to sound like I’m being racist or accusing anyone else of racism, but I can’t remember the last time there was a gigantic fuss like this over a non-Caucasian missing child report.

    If I’m wrong, please feel free to straighten me out, but I’ve never really seen anything like that for non-Caucasians.

  67. Demontestament says:

    "She insists her son was taken by some misfit teammate who may be participating in a bizarre video game that has somehow crossed over into reality.

    Crisp said her son was "addicted" to the terrorist war game, Call of Duty, and might have met up with team players online.

    "I think someone has him," Crisp said."


    Bizarre video game that has crossed over into reality? Taken by some misfit teammate? So he has kidnapped by cult members who worship COD as some twisted God?

    So many words can be used to describe the COD series. Terrorist War Game is not one of them. Does she actually think he ran off with some people he met online to join a terrorist cell? Given today’s parents I would not be surprised. The game has nothing to do with the kid running away, the rabbit hole goes deeper than they are allowing others to see. They are not sharing the entire story with us, there is a huge piece being left out.

    Just asking, but have the police checked out the parents? They usually do in cases like this, the parents are always considered suspects when a child disappears.

  68. Keith K says:

    This is Canada. You can’t sue people for being stupid. There’s no financial harm in stupidity. You just tell them they’re stupid.

  69. DeepThorn says:

    More details are needed on this powersupply, but assuming that it was not compatible…

    Punishment for the 1,200W powersupply: A hard kick to the balls, if otherwise too stupid to risk him reproducing proven by other event then kick in the balls by a pro female soccer player.  Either way, now he shall feel the stupidity physically as well as mentally/emotionally.

    Next case…

  70. silversnowfox says:

    Motion passes.  We will now hear the case of the idot who who bought the 1,200 Watt powersupply for his Desktop.

    "We do not hear debates about teaching whether the holocausts happened or did not in history classes, so why should we even entertain the notion for Intelligent Design?"

  71. cullarn says:

    and we were worried about jack thomspons replacement howw long till he tells us to shut up and get dressed for our hitler youth rally?

  72. Erik says:

    So you were no longer able to dodge that previously proven fact hm?  Yes I understand that it is hard.  People taking responsibility for their own actions and the actions of those under their care rather than blaming inanimate objects.  Of course if people did take such responsibility for themselves your blog would be moot now wouldn’t it?

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  73. exgamerdotnet says:

    An email I sent to Dennis…

    I guess somebody’s fact checking isn’t that good. I had an intern talking with people at the Toronto News Bureau. I held off moderating a lengthy comment until I could verify the details on this story.

    I think this side story has taken on a life of its own…blown way out of proportion.

    In any case Dennis, I was wrong on the fundamentals based on this initial information, so I do apologize for that.



  74. HilaryDuffGta says: (and boom goes the dynamite)



    i’m not saying that if he was addicted that the games should be blamed…Hell i was "addicted" to wow if you even want to call it that but when some nights i needed to i turned it off early to sleep…all things in moderation is one way i see it…



    but hell i still say blame the father for packing his kids bag…idk i’m not gonna go more cause i’ll rant

  75. NovaBlack says:

    ”"“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield." ”


    oh WightWng dont forget the suspicious and hard to spot payments each month for 3 years to xbox live lol.

  76. NovaBlack says:

    ”"“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield." ”


    oh WightWng dont forget the suspicious and hard to spot payments each month for 3 years to xbox live lol.

    makes thae fact they claim they didnt know they could prevent him playing even more stupid. err.. dont pay.

  77. nightwng2000 says:

    Also, on the issue of the Parents blaming the game itself:

    "“This is a huge wake-up call for me and other parents with all these Internet games,” said Brandon’s mother Angelika Crisp. “We know it’s dangerous but don’t know how complex they are.

    “If Bill Gates is such a philanthropist, (he should) take this game off the market, save some children and families from the horrific experience I’ve had,” she urged, describing the nine sleepless nights and worry-filled days as “days of panic.”"

    And how responsible were they as Parents?  Here’s there own admission:

    "“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield."

    I think the modem cable/wireless modem connection plus the bit on the box about online play should be the giveaway.

    "“Parents should be more informed, so we can decide,” she added, noting Brandon began playing the Xbox game two years ago and took the experience up a notch by going online to play interactively."

    "Since Brandon’s disappearance last Monday, his parents have learned a lot about the video-gaming world."

    Oh, NOW you make time.  Isn’t that ALWAYS the way?  Whether online or off, when you don’t put forth an effort, you learn that you should have learned a long time ago.  So if your kid is allergic to peanuts, do you just not buy peanuts for him or do you actually keep a closer watch on other things that might be connectec and perhaps even ask your doctor about other associated foods that are bad for him?

    "“I have found out since that money can be involved in it now and kids can be attracted to the offer of money,” said Brandon’s dad Steve Crisp."

    That’s a new one on me in regards to the game, or at least on the xbox 360.  I know you have to buy Microsoft Points and pay for subscriptions, but what else?

    "Mr. Crisp also learned there are parental controls on the Xbox, which would have allowed him to limit the amount of time his son could play."

    Way to go there Sparky.  You’d think a Parent would check for that sort of thing.

    "“We were involved in our own busy lives as parents and didn’t understand how it worked. He played it every waking hour of the day.”"

    No, you were involved in your OWN lives and too neglectful to BE Parents.  If you were actually involved in being PARENTS, you would have investigated every askpect of what you buy for your kids.  You put the effort into evaluating the foods for your kids, the insurance for your kids, the school for your kids, the neighborhood you’re moving into, the vehicle you buy, so on and so forth.  It’s not that big of a step to consider the media that your child is exposed to and all aspects of it.

    The rest of the article is fairly decent as well.  But the point is just as in the previous paragraph, treat all media, in every form, broad and specific, every genre, etc just as you would every other aspect of your decision making process.

    Contrary to popular agenda seeker misinformation, there is a great deal of inofrmation out there, a great deal of resources for even the most layman of Parents to obtain information on what they expose their children to.

    These Parents admit they didn’t take the time to actually BE Parents.  As a result, they are now placing the blame everywhere else but in their own laps, where it actually belongs.


    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as

  78. GrimCW says:

    i agree with you wholey to be honest for myself here, the parental controls are there, yet you hear stuff like this story where the parent’s "didn’t know about it" despite the constant attention games have gotten lately even in the mass media. i still find it funny that some people push for parental controls… that are ALREADY THERE.

    My parents never believed in censoring the world from me, but i did get constant sesame street like lectures about strangers, and real violence vs virtual violence, as well as having gotten my butt beat once for throwing a wiffle bat at a girl who was attacking my friend, all cause its "wrong to hit a girl for ANY reason…" never fully agreed with it, but the point was still burned into my behind. and BOTH my parents worked FULL time, more oft than not my father even had overtime.

    as for the breaking things.. my mother did that once.. shattered a 1960’s B17G model my grandpa built and gave to me… she did it in such anger she felt really bad for a good time after (well after she cooled off) but she did it in place of worse things that could’ve happened and i understand the reasoning. I’m just kinda glad she grabbed the plane and not my turtle tank it was on :p


    "looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"


    lol as mentioned above it has been banned in several forms just for that, as have some disney toons and other misc ones. including a number of either form that were deemed to "racist" or "violent" for public display anymore. IIRC the original transformers toons were banned partially for their violent content… as well as a dip in ratings ;p

    you can find a number of the banned toons even, right  here some interesting episodes made the cut.



  79. hellfire7885 says:

    ".then why didnt the ohh gee i dont know unplug the system and either throw it on the floor and break it or toss it in the trash can?"


    That’s kidna what they did, this is the result. In a lot of cases, cut someone cold turkey, and you get bad results.

  80. Zevorick says:

    "looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"

    It’s been done… In fact it’s been banned in a good number of private elementary schools in afterschool (for lack of better word) babysitting programs. Then again, I live in Texas so yay Bible belt.

    "Do you see how stupid that sounds..thats what it sounds like when people Blame video games on society’s problems today..Lets all come to the fact people that we no longer live in the leave it to beaver world anymore and yes our world is screwed up and not perfect anymore.."

    We never lived in a Leave it to Beaver world. The only difference is the focus of the media. Back in the "Leave it to Beaver" days, people did not want to hear the evil truth about the world. That, and combined with the relative weakness of their information processing, left them with a fairly positive view of the world. News has learned that violence= ratings (seriously, I would say the best "murder simulator" is the evening news. It desensitizes you just as much as any other violent media) and thus, we are surrounded by it. The world is such a terrible place. We’re all going to die any moment… wait *looks out the window* no fire or brimstone… I think we’re fine.


    "i dont care how much you think "hey this will be a good idea cause then he will come running home" it was stupid and the father should be ashamed of himself…and i hope that the father lives with that guilt for the rest of his life…"

    For the most part I agree. It happens more times than I would like, and it is hardly effective parenting. Then again, I’m just a mere lad of 23 who, thankfully, has no kids.

  81. HilaryDuffGta says: (and boom goes the dynamite)



    Ok its been a long time since i’ve done a duffy rant and this isnt a rant cause i am going to be respectful in this post and as dennis knows i dont say rude things just to say them but this is the way i see it and to anyone who disagrees with me i am only stating my opinion on what i have heard of the story…




    The Parents say that they were busy with their own lives or whatever it was and didnt have the "time" to see what their son was playing or what he was doing on x box live???


    Ok i know for a fact that the 360 has parentel controls cause my Brother had a system and one day i messed around with it and found that you can block pretty much any type of game you want too..Why didnt the parents look into this when they bought the system?? and please dont give me this "the system is complicated to work" bull..Its not difficult but i think some parents just dont feel like wasting their time with it cause i believe that even in the year 2008 almost 2009 that any and all video games are like "mario" or "pac man"..they are nothing like that and i just see that its a simple thing to just block m rated games or hell even Teen rated games if you dont want your kid playing it..


    Or better yet if the parents were the one’s who bought him the x box 360 and it got to the point where they said he was "addicted" to the game..then why didnt the ohh gee i dont know unplug the system and either throw it on the floor and break it or toss it in the trash can?? now yes they will be out a couple hundred bucks but you know what if thats what it takes to get ur kid to stop playing video games then do it…I"m not saying i would do this with my own children if they were only playing a hour or two a day but if it got to the point to where they were skipping on homework and not doing their chores and getting a attitude then i wouldnt and wont have a problem taking the system away and putting it in me and my wife’s room and letting them know that if they try to even go in there and play it that i’ll just take a hammer to it and break it..


    Now i’m sure i’ll get some people here saying "oh thats mean and you shouldnt do that to your children" but being a parent is a difficult job and sometimes you have to do things that wont make you popular with your child and may get them to look at you as a P**** or another word i wont use then oh well its something you deal with and if you raise your child right they will learn to get over it and figure out "gee if i do what i need to do and dont be a brat then i can play my games"..


    Now to lizwooley and whoever else it was that i either offended or made myself sound like i am defensive now or i dont care…What i am about to say may sound rude and dennis you know me and you know i do not cause problems or say things to just be mean but i am entitled to my opinion and i say this and i mean it in no disrespect at all its just how i feel about things..Yes i am defensive now when it comes to anti video game stories because i honestly see it as a waste of time and something that has gone from kind of idiotic to plain stupid..People blaming Grand theft auto, Manhunt,Or any violent game and go on with the whole "playing this game will train you to kill people and murder people" is pure bull and just probably one of the most stupid brain dead things anyone can say…Saying something like that is almost if not just as stupid as if i went and said that "looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"


    Do you see how stupid that sounds..thats what it sounds like when people Blame video games on society’s problems today..Lets all come to the fact people that we no longer live in the leave it to beaver world anymore and yes our world is screwed up and not perfect anymore..


    Basically i see it as it is the parents responsibilty to pay attention to what their children are doing REGARDLESS of how tired they are or what they want to do when they get home…I believe that if you are going to be a parent then parent your child..if you dont want to do that then turn them over to the state…


    again this is just my opinion and i’m sure i rubbed some people the wrong way..i mean no disrespect but i am and have always been a person who will speak my mind no matter how cold or rude it may sound…


    I do hope this kid is safe but the parents mainly the father must not give a crap if he helped his son pack a bag and give him directions to get somewhere..i dont care how much you think "hey this will be a good idea cause then he will come running home" it was stupid and the father should be ashamed of himself…and i hope that the father lives with that guilt for the rest of his life…



    dennis i apoligize if i sound out of line but i needed to say that and again if i offended anyone it was not my intent at all..i just speak my mind and i am well known for that on here…

  82. Austin_Lewis says:

    You know what?  I think you made up your source.  I think you’re just trying to manipulate the facts so that you can strengthen your story and push your agenda.  How’s that working out for you Mr. Thompson?

  83. GoodRobotUs says:

    Glad to clarify the matter, and yes, not a major issue at all imho, this sort of response would be considered perfectly normal in the UK, and, obviously, also in Canada, though that may not be the case in the US.

    Either way, the single most important factor right now is getting the poor lad home and safe, there’s time enough for blame and recriminations later.

  84. exgamerdotnet says:

    Oh, okay, finally we have this issue in context, thanks to the Toronto Star. Thanks go to

    Kind of blown out of proportion, yes?

    My source was incorrect, and I am glad to have the right info, thanks.

  85. Austin_Lewis says:

    I suspect he lied about his ‘sources’ so that he could ignore that fact as long as possible.  Mainly because there’s been word of the father packing the bag for quite a while now.

  86. Austin_Lewis says:

    I find myself agreeing with Zevorick on this; in this case, parents would be less concerned with a statement and MORE concerned with searching for their missing son.  A parent seeking for their child doesn’t worry about explanation or blame, they worry about getting their son back home. 

  87. Zen says:

    Same thing can be said of anything they are addicted to and have an emotional and social connection to.  Even more so if it’s their only way of connecting to the world.  What if they are a movie nut, and you smash the DVD player.  A car nut and you have it crushed.  Hell, addicted to the yard looking nice and you break the lawn mower.  Being addicted to something to an unhealthy level and then having really bad things happen when it is just "ripped away" (this isn’t a good way to deal with things, unless it’s a band-aid) should be exactly what you should expect from it.  You need to limit the time back and try to find other activities to fill the time that is being created in their life.  Otherwise you condem them to a hell of having their life and social structure ripped away and saying the equivilent of "deal with it" to them. 

    And I admit that if my 360, Wii, PS3, and PC were taken away, I would be crushed and would react badly.  But not because I’m addicted, it would be because they are the only way I can interact with my little brother who was transfered to California with the Marines.  Some can view that as an addictive behaviour because I feel that I honestly do "need" these things (CoD4 is included for the 360 btw), but others can see that it is a honest part of my social structure.

    Jeremy Powers
    Panama City, Fl.

  88. txshurricane says:

    You realize that by saying that, you’re acknowledging that video game addiction can be blamed for his actions, right?

  89. VideolandHero says:

    There is a difference between being a good parent and being a bad parent.

    These parents are being absolutely horrible, and if Brandon is found I hope he gets adopted.

    — Official Protector of Videoland!

  90. Zevorick says:

    Is it understandable that they might look for easy explanantions under the circumstances?

    Not really… Usually in extreme stress, the LAST thing on peoples mind is explanations and reasoning as to why. Why doesn’t, or shouldn’t, matter in the minds of the parents right now. What should matter is finding their son, no matter what caused it. The fact it’s being dragged up time and time again, no matter what the excuse is, means they want to put the blame on someone or something. This isn’t a matter of being a bad or a good parent. This is… bah. There is just so much wrong with this I don’t know where to begin.

    Search parties, such as these, are usually done when the police start to lessen their own search or when the trail gets stone cold. I don’t know much about the rigors of canadian searching, but it is doubtful the police have held the same intensity they had within the first 48 for this long. It’s taken them this long to make a search party, and that doesnt sit well with me. Usually in towns such as this (from what I gathered it’s a relatively small town), searches such as this often correspond with police investigation, so I find it highly odd that it’s taken this long to start an informal search.

    At this point, I’m not sure the parents themselves are the likely culprits. The more information that comes in, the less likely it looks they directly did anything… but it looks more and more like they know something they’re not saying.

    Forgive my pesimism, but that’s what I feel is likely at this point. I think I’m going to steer clear of these articles until they make a break in the case. I’m starting to sound like a broken record.

  91. gamepolitics says:

    GP: I deleted a couple of over-the-top posts here.

    People, I would encourage you to consider the position that the parents are in. Is it frustrating to see games blamed for this?


    Is it understandable that they might look for easy explanantions under the circumstances?

    Probably so.

    Let’s just hope Brandon is okay.

  92. Ashton says:

    I don’tmean ‘your’ as in ‘Canadian’ I mean ‘your’ as a general term, like ‘your average Xbox’ or ‘your average boy,’ etc. This isn’t a dig at any country’s populace. I’m saying that the average citizen of ANY country is somewhat ignorant in many important subjects.

  93. Wolvenmoon says:

    It’s odd that you say that our average layman is ignorant, when you don’t take into account the current amount of information from our media-which picks on the lowest of the low most of the time-that your country gets, and other countries get.

    Now, if your country was outputting the same amount of media information, plenty of people would believe your ‘laymen’ were pretty stupid too.

  94. Ashton says:

    I used a poor choice of words. Your average layman is rather ignorant, and their actions are fueled by emotion rather than logic. You can always find a topic that someone is ignorant about – one person is ignorant about sports, while another may be ignorant about music, so on and so forth. Screaming at their ignorance doesn’t solve problems, it causes them.

    I prefer to operate by the stance of "Don’t hate, educate."

  95. Neeneko says:

    I normally do not agree with ‘non parents just don’t understand’ type posts, but this was well written and made some good points.

    Though something to keep in mind (which you started to touch on), parents do tend to have some pretty emotionally charged blinders on that non-parents often do not, which can (I say can because there are a lot of non-parents that really don’t understand and are talking out of their, well, you know where) give them a objective clarity that generally people who have kids have trouble seeing.

    Sometimes, but not always, being further away from something does give one better perspective then being wrapped up with it as a lifestyle.

  96. Ashton says:

    I’m not saying it’s an acceptable reason. I’m saying that people yelling that ‘bad parenting’ is the root of any kid troubles are just as irresponsible and irrational as people pointing to games, movies, and/or music as the root of any kid troubles. There are, inarguably, cases where bad parenting is the cause, but there are just as many cases where the parents are great and the kid was just a bad apple.

    Note this: I am not defending these parents in any way, I’m just saying that our community, as a whole, should take every opportunity to consider every angle of a given problem, instead of just shouting "OH MY GOD STOP LOOKING AT THE GAMES AND LOOK AT THE PARENTS JUST LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE GOD DAMN IT." It makes us seem unsympathetic. When media tries to deflect it on us or our pastime, we shouldn’t be trying to deflect it elsewhere just because we’re tired of people targeting our pastime – it creates a bad image that people can use against us, even when we’re wrongly accused.

    Think of it this way: to the uninformed third party, this looks like a kid hooked on games and ‘going bad’ for lack of a better term. The media blames games and gamers, and gamers cry out in outrage. That third party is going to think "In the face of such a crisis, these people are more worried about their pastime than the life of a child?" Irrational? Unreasonable? Unfair? Yes. But media panders to the ignorance and emotional knee jerk reactions these people have, and we need to be sympathetic while arguing our stance. Who are you going to listen to more, someone who appears to be willing to consider everything but is leaning towards a particular theory, or a doof who’s just screaming what he thinks in everyone’s face?

  97. Ashton says:

    Not really judging, just saying that we don’t have the whole story, so we shouldn’t be screaming at the top of our lungs that what we’re saying is undoubtedly the truth.

  98. sirdarkat says:

    Just look at you; you’ve passed judgment and all you know of this case is the stuff you’ve read in the media, which is very limited information. — sounds like a judgment made about the individual above to me … could be wrong.

  99. Doomsong says:

    You’re still saying that 15 years is not an adequate learning curve. All parents were teenagers once, and most of us know all too well how many secrets we’ve kept from our parents.

    However, saying that this is an acceptable reason to validate this argument would be false. If this child spent so much time playing a game, it would be slightly difficult to not learn more than they have. A blatant demonstration of a hobby could never suggest anything secret, unless the parents were so distracted (or disinterested) that they couldn’t see things that were right in front of them. (My mom can’t play a game to save her life, but she can still tell you the plot of Star Control 3. This doesn’t necessarily mean she was a better parent than anyone else, but it does prove she paid attention, as I’m sure your parents do).

    To the subject itself I ask the question: If indeed the game or gaming community was at all to blame for his disappearance, then why have they not been checking his Xbox Live friends list for leads? If this was truly the case, then the answers would be there… otherwise I don’t buy it.

  100. Ashton says:

    "What you’re saying is it’s ok to pass off responsibility on some media scapegoat than to own up and come to realise that YOU could have prevented this."

    That’s not what I’m saying. All I’m saying is that parenting is difficult and I think every parent is pretty much learning the job as they tackle things. I’m not taking a devil’s advocate stance; I definitely think the parents are out of their minds if they think a game did this to him, and that there’s more to this story than what we’re actually hearing, but if we’re saying that games had nothing to do with this, then we can’t say, in the same breath, that they could’ve prevented this if they had paid attention to their child’s gaming habits, since it supposedly had nothing to do with his disappearance in the first place. It’s kind of an argumentative loop.

    Now, you’re being proactive in your child’s life, and I wouldn’t try to assume what your family life is like, but if the cases I’ve studied in psych class are any indication, every kid has some sort of secret from his or her parents. Not knowing every detail about your child’s life is hardly ‘bad parenting.’ My dad has no idea about the games I play, and my mom only dabbles in Bejeweled type stuff and is ignorant about other game types, but they’re far from bad parents.

  101. Doomsong says:

    Really? Because I’m 30, married, a gamer AND a parent. The parents ignorance that you state is a far better reason to judge them than to forgive them. What you’re saying is it’s ok to pass off responsibility on some media scapegoat than to own up and come to realise that YOU could have prevented this. If a parent is not willing to partake in their child’s chosen activity, or at least pay close enough attention to said activity so that they may aid in the appropriate understanding of the subject matter then they are bad parents. Their ignorance in this situation supports this.

    I’m sure they do care about their child, but caring is not enough. Ignorance of any kind can not be an excuse in this situation, nor is not being able to control their child.

  102. jb_moskow says:

    Ok here’s what I think on this matter…

    I’ve been reading the gp comments on the Brandon Crisp related stories since the story broke, and while I think some of the arguments are justified on either side of the case (video games are to blame vs. parents are to blame) I want to add my own opinion on this matter.

    1.) On the point "Why would Brandon Crisp run away and not have access to an Xbox, which he was addicted to, right?", I have to repsectfully disagree with. I know from personal experience that when I was younger my Dad had to take away my keyboard and mouse when I was just playing too much computer games. I think there was one incident where I just left the house and went for a long walk in anger. Now, here’s what you have to understand about a person in brandon’s mindset (only based on what I know so far), he is not thinking clearly or rationally. The interesting thing about ‘videogame addiction’ (although I don’t fully agree with that label it’s probably the best option in this case) is that like any other addictive propertly, if you go long enough without it, you don’t really want it anymore. So in this case, although Brandon may obviously "want" to play COD4 again, his primary emotion is "revenge". This is my thought process in the situation:

    "I am so angry that my parents took my Xbox, I’m going to show them, I’m going to run away, and then they’ll be sorry they took it away, what a bunch of jerks".

    So see, they’re not actually consciously thinking about the videogame! It may be the unconcious motivator for their actions, but at that point in time all they have is a scheme to get back their videogame access, there is no mental connection to videogames, and even if the shceme fails in reasoning and logic, the inidividual will still go out and do it anyways, because they aren’t thinking clearly or rationally, so yes, I believe someone can run away and not go towards another xbox or videogames, even though that lack of access is the reason they ran away in the first place.

    Unfortunately at this point, there’s no telling where this kid could be. If he did ditch his bike, then the next likely mode of transportation would be walking imo, but you never know if this kid was actually going towards a particular direction (and not just trying to get as far as possible), if so he may have hitchhiked to get where he needed to go, and that is just a bad situation. You would think that even action irraitonally he would have enough common sense not to hitchhike, but people do the stupidest things when they’re not thinking straight.

  103. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    The one thing about that that raises questions for me is how hard they seem to stick to it.

    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers!

    -The Buck Stops Here.

    -Thou Shall Not Teamkill, Asshole.

  104. thefremen says:

     Blaming shit would be the last thing on my mind. Finding my kid would be the first thing. It’s like those parents who hold press conferences (or husbands) and the very very first thing they say is "WE TOTALLY DIDN’T DO IT U GUYS FOR REALS SOME BLACK DUDE STOLE MY CAR/KILLED MY WIFE/CARVED A B IN MY FACE!".

  105. SS says:

    come on have a heart people.  IF you were in the same situation you would also create explanations for what happened.  Her son ran away, you can’t blame his parents for trying to cope with the situation. 

  106. thefremen says:

     More and more this sounds like "He ran away because of COD4 it had NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE DID TO HIM!".

  107. GoliathWon says:

    And this article (From CTV, no less) does at least confirm that Brandon did express his intention of leaving, although it leaves out how the father reacted to it:

    "We had basically taken his Xbox away. He took it back, and the catalyst for this was I took it away for good the second time and at that point, that was when he said he couldn’t handle it anymore, he said he was leaving," said Steve Crisp."

  108. GoodRobotUs says:


    "I told him he wouldn’t be getting his Xbox back. He said, `Then I’m going to leave home.’"

    Steve called his son’s bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

    "I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," said Steve, who remembers running away from home once when he was a boy.



    I think this is where the idea came from. Though I’ve seen no reports verifying this from that point onwards. However, my own father did exactly the same thing to me when I was young.

    Either way, I’ve been pretty appalled at some of the comments on here, I defended gamers to Brad on his site because I felt we were being misrepresented, I still feel that way, but some of the comments on here make it hard to.

  109. exgamerdotnet says:

    Let’s put the "Brandon’s father packed his bag" business to rest please.

    From my contact at the CTV National News:

    Hey Brad,

    Spoke to some people at the (Toronto) bureau working on this story. They’ve been following the story pretty closely have not heard anything remotely close to what you described.  Sounds like crazy internet sensationalism to me.

    If you have a major media or police source that differs from this, I would dearly love to hear it. The fact you heard from a friend who heard from a blogger who heard it from his cousin’s Facebook group doesn’t make it true.

    I have asked Dennis at to issue a statement on this site supporting the information I have provided here.

  110. Ashton says:

    Almost all of the people who talk like you aren’t parents, just single young men/women who THINK they know how to parent.

    Ignorance does not make them bad parents. Parents aren’t going to know everything about their kids. I remember a psychology case study I read up on where the parents thought a kid was fine because he was acting normal and never told them about any trouble, but the kid commited suicide, and the parents had no idea why – they just grabbed at anything to blame as a medium for their anger, sadness, and sense of loss. It’s the same thing here.

    They actually, genuinely care about their son – maybe they’re ignorant, sure, but the average American citizen is pretty damn ignorant, if you ask me. Just look at you; you’ve passed judgment and all you know of this case is the stuff you’ve read in the media, which is very limited information.

  111. Keith K says:

    Terrible parents.

    The fact that they let him play M rated games aside, if they are willing to blame video games for his behaviour, then it should have been delt with ages ago. He shouldnt have a 360 to begin with. He should have been stopped at PS1.

    The kid is fine, he is just hiding out at a friends place, no doubt. The fact that it has pretty much blanketed the media here in Toronto (Barrie is just north of Toronto), means the parents are playing right into the kids hands. He’s probably at his buddy’s place, playing Xbox, laughing his little obnoxious head off.

    The fact that they’re making such ignorant claims has probably also humiliated him. He’s probably waiting for the hysteria to die down before going home to avoid media suffocation. He’s thinking to himself "Man.. I can’t belive my dipshit parents are willing to go on international record as saying that video games are the cause of their kids poor behaviour." It’s a cry for help and they’re obviously not giving the kid the attentions he’s needed. Like so many parents discussed on this site, this pair of losers is focusing on the symptoms and not the problems.

    Just come out and admit you’re bad parents who don’t know how to handle a stupid brat of a kid and your stupid brat of a kid will feel vindicated and return.

  112. Timbo2702 says:

    It wouldn’t suprise me if this was (part of) the case…

    Part of me wants to make an episode/movie/whatever where this is led to be the idea for most of the episode, only to have that theory completely and utterly torn to shreds (In the form of someone saying something along the lines of "Wait, you actually thought that <game> caused this?! *starts laughing, suddenly stops* Oh, you’re serious… Oh wow… *goes into explanation of why that theory is full of crap*"

    – Tim Kowalenko

  113. DarkSaber says:

    His Mum has been watching too many of those criminal investigation dramas. Every time they have a video game episode it’s about ‘the game crossing over into real life’.


    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  114. Doomsong says:

    This just proves how ignorant she is of her own child and his friends. I do truly hope the kid is alright, but either way his parents need to be arrested after he is found. People like that can not be trusted to raise children responsibly.

  115. HilaryDuffGta says: (and boom goes the dynamite)



    didn cod come out not even less then a year ago???? if he was playing any cod for a long time it either had to be 2 or 3..but then again that would be asking people like the parents to actully look into that and we cant have that now can we

  116. DCOW says:

    the mother is hysteric, that’s all.


    she needs to either calm the hell down and/or shut the hell up IMO


  117. barra_sadei says:

    I’m still surprised they’re sticking to the theory, but… Didn’t you catch "terrorist war game," be any chance? Because, you know, Call of Duty 4 was all about being a terrorist instead of trying to stop them.

    And, again, I thought the information on the game conflicted with the release date of CoD4? Or did I miss an update?

  118. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson says:

    Wait, wait, wait… His mom is STILL saying COD4 did it? What the f***ing [heck]?



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