Children’s Charity Turns its Back on Gygax Memorial Donation

As many gamers know, Gary Gygax (left), the famed creator of Dungeons & Dragons, passed away earlier this year.

By way of honoring the man and his achievement, the folks behind GenCon’s yearly charity auction decided to donate the proceeds to Gygax’s favorite charity, the Christian Children’s Fund.  The auction, held at this year’s GenCon, raised more than $17,000.
Unfortunately, according to a post on Live Game Auctions, the CCF refused the donation when it found out that the money would partially come from the sale of D&D merchandise.  GenCon instead donated the money to the Fisher House Foundation, an organization that enables family members to live nearby their hospitalized loved ones.
A curious member of the Giant in the Playground forum e-mailed the CCF about its decision and received the following reply:

Christian Children’s Fund made the decision to decline the gift from GenCon, LLC as the request presented to us gave the appearance that CCF (the organization) was an endorser or supporter of a gaming convention, which CCF was not.


As [with] many non-profit organizations, CCF is selective in its endorsements or support in order to maintain the integrity of its name and logo. We cannot lend our name to an event for which we have no involvement. This decision should in no way be interpreted as CCF holding an opinion on Mr. Gygax, gaming enthusiasts or the game Dungeons and Dragons.

GU Comics offers an amusing take on the situation.
-Reporting from San Diego, GP Correspondent Andrew Eisen

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    sirjonk says:

    God endorsed slavery too, and stoning people to death for not keeping the sabbath holy.  Let’s fight for the right to keep those things alive too.  Pathetic.  And spending even $1 fighting against marriage equality when that same dollar could go to feed people who are hungry or in need of medical treatment is a mismanagement of funds if you are a charitable organization. 

    Give Jesus that $1.  I wonder what he’d do with it.

    "Glad to see there is no bias in your eyes."

    Very sad to see the bias in yours and the church’s.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Who did the person say should be gassed? Harry Potter?


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    NotSoHardcoreGamer says:

    Disgusting.  When "Christians" favor fundamentalism and ignorance over what was the heart of Jesus Christ’s teachings: love and kindness.  As a Christian, this shames and infurtiates me.

    It does make me proud of being a gamer though.  Whether pen-and-paper, dice and cardboard, or megabytes and pixels, it shows you can be a gamer and a good person, regardless of what certain people of strong religious bent think.

    Gary Gygax, whether you’re in D&D Celestia or the Christian Heaven, I salute you!

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    cullarn says:

    generally administraition costs (its actually the way things are done almost all nonprofits have to have a person or 2 on the payroll cause running such groups is literally a full time job)

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    Lazier Than Thou says:

    Perhaps I’m just a moron, but I don’t see your point.  Are you honestly comparing homosexual marriage(which happens to be an opinion) to something factual like the earth being round?  You don’t think that’s a little foolish?

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    G-Meister says:

    To me, it sounds more like the CCF was more afraid of being associated with GENCON. I’m not exactly an expert on the history of Gen Con, but didn’t they recently get in trouble with George Lucas because of issues with another charity drive? Maybe the CCF was afraid that if they took the money, they might have to give it back later?

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    gamadaya says:

    Some people also don’t believe that the Earth is round. They’re called morons. The reason we teach that the Earth is round in schools is because it’s a fact and at one point we realized that it was stupid to accomidate the morons. It’s an endless cycle. Progress tries to happen, morons stand in the way, but progress always wins. It may be a long and grueling road, but progress always wins.

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    NeW SpEcTrUM says:

    Silly, silly. They should know that religious "charities" are only there to make face. As if they truly cared about those in need. Wouldn’t want to dirty themselves by associating themselves with those "gamers".

    "Christianity exceeds all other faiths in its power to deform and finally invert the mental process." –  Ida White

    "If child molestation is actually your concern, how come we don’t see Bradley tanks knocking down Catholic churches?" – Bill Hicks / "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." – Denis Diderot

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    GM ace says:

    Some kids will probably die without that money to feed them. Great job, CCF. Great job. I swear, how these people can possibly be worshipping the same God I do boggles the mind.

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    Lazier Than Thou says:

    I’m sorry, but if you look at some of the things that have happened in Massachusetts you would know that this is not something that "doesn’t effect you."  Once homosexual marriage becomes legal it is something that will be taught in school as normal and acceptable.  Some people don’t believe that it is(the acceptable part, not normal) and they have actually been denied the right to decide what their child learns in school.

    Not only that, but it’s also been seen(in Massachusetts) that organizations like churchs that don’t preform the homosexual marriage(as their belief states it’s wrong) they can and have been sued and forced to preform the marriage ceremony.  This is essentially legislating religion.

    If you believe in homosexual marriage, that’s fine.  I don’t mind at all.  Just don’t force me to believe in it.

    This is not something that’s small and without any consequences.  There will be consequences and they will be large.

    By the way, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has not officially donated any money to the proposition to ban gay marriage in California, but they have asked the general membership to donate time and money, if possible, to it.

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    Anthrax says:

    Think of how much help they’re denying these kids because of their stupid fucking beliefs. This makes me absolutely sick. Fuck them. They can all DIAF for all I care.

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    Adamas Draconis says:

    That brought to mind the poster (forgot who alas.) who was told he should be gassed because he wore a pentacle.

    Heres a tip for CCF and other "charitable" organizations


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    Adamas Draconis says:

    As a D&D player, I admit to being tempted to attempt to do more then "cuff"ing them. Maybe I can work out  a way to Fastball Special them to Antartica for their stupidity.


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    transformergirl says:

    It just so happens that I’m watching an ad from CCF asking for money….one question, if 80 cents of each dollar goes to helping the kids, were does the other 20 cents go?

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    I still remember what happened last year, when someone confronted me about wearing a Golden Snitch necklace. Remember that, Grizzam? Remember when I talked about it on here?


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    Neeneko says:

    Hrm.  I am debating if that makes a differnce or not, but you are correct that I misunderstood.  I was under the impression that members donated to the Church, and then the Church donated to the champagn.

    Though to a lesser degree my thoughts (the first part at least) still hold.  Early Christianity was not built around "C"hurches (part of the idea was it was VERY personal) so the rules about respecting the law and not tangling religion into it still hold at an individual level.   So from that perspective the Church should not be encouraging it’s members to do what they are doing.  While within their rights to champion their beliefs, I find it displeasing that they are choosing to follow the beliefs that hurt others and ignoring the belief that says they should not be doing this in the first place.

    But that is getting into the entire topic of biblical interpertation which is messy and pretty arbitrary.

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    E. Zachary Knight says:

    I may not have been clear in my above post, but I tried to be. The Mormon church (Or Church of Jesuc Christ of Latter-day Saints, to be formal) did not donate any money to that cause. It was rather the people of the Church. The Church itself does not involve itself in politics whether that is endorsing any candidates or positions or allowing any kind of political rally in their meeting houses, but they encourage their members to be politically active. If by being politically active a large enough group of Mormons raise $20 mil to stop an amendment to allow Gay marriage because their religious beliefs declare it a sin, they are within their right.

    If that group were advertising in anyway that the donation was backed by the actual church, they were in the wrong and should clarify that.

    Everyone should take an active role in their country’s political process. Not everyone is going to share the same views as everyone else. If they did, we wouldn’t need a government because we would all share a single hive mind.

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    Geoff says:

    Yeah, because it would be such a shame if homosexuals were treated as something besides second-class citizens.

    While I know many religious organizations use their money to do good, using so much money to deny the rights of other citizens is nothing more than discrimination.  Especially with gay marriage, where the people trying to prevent it are not affected either way.  They are just trying to force their religious views into the legal system, which is quite frankly BS.  You think it’s a sin?  Fine, go ahead and think that, I don’t have a problem with that.  What I have a problem with is using that as a basis for treating others as sub-human.  Laws like that are on par with laws that prevented mix-racial marriages. 


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    Neeneko says:

    Actually early Christianty was pretty big on keeping your religion to yourself (respect the state, respect the laws of the state, do not push religious laws onto the state, pray alone, etc),.. so if one followed early christian teachings (pre roman catholic, and esp pre paul) then yeah, donating money to fight a ‘sin against god’ would be a bad thing for a church to do.

    Plus, I think people always get a bit of a sore spot when religious insittutions use their resources to harm others rather then help.  Yep, the Mormon Church does a LOT of good (esp since they so strongly encourage missionary work, which while another mixed bag does some great stuff), but I can still relate to being kinda unhappy that they are burning resources at something that does little more then keep 3% of the population away from certian legal capabilties.  

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    Trevor McGee says:

    So is it safe to assume that these religious nut jobs still believe that D&D turns people into evil Devil worshippers that formed their own cult based around the fantasy pen and paper RPG?

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    Kris says:

    Um, it sounds like they DO have an opinion on D&D gaming.  I guess I can understand why a Christian organization wouldn’t want to associate itself with that, but it’s money for children and well…money is money and it’s going to HELP THE CHILDREN.  

    Child’s Play gladly would have taken it, though Fisher House, is, of course, a good place for it to go.

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    Serrenity says:

    Can’t lie – I find this refusal disgusting.  Literally, makes me want to walk around cuff these people up the side of the head




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    Austin_Lewis says:

    That’s why I don’t give money to the CCF.  What kind of charity rejects money because it comes from sale of a game?  Shit, I bet their kids are at home playing an RPG on their PS3 or 360 that is based on the very rules and systems that Gary Gygax invented, but God forbid that they take money from Gary Gygax’s memorial donation.  bunch of jackasses.

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    Demontestament says:

    What kind of idiot turns down $17,000 to help children in need because the money came from the sale of D&D items?

    "As [with] many non-profit organizations, CCF is selective in its endorsements or support in order to maintain the integrity of its name and logo. We cannot lend our name to an event for which we have no involvement. This decision should in no way be interpreted as CCF holding an opinion on Mr. Gygax, gaming enthusiasts or the game Dungeons and Dragons."

    Bullshit, your narrow views have just robbed the children you use to beg for money in those commercials. And at the same time spit in the face of Mr. Gygax. What I find funny is this was Gary‘s favorite charity, given that fact he would have donated to it a few times in his life. So will they be returning every dollar Mr. Gygax gave to them now that it is known he created something the CFF disagrees with?

    There should be a tag line on their commercials "We only accept money from good Christian people, everyone else can burn in hell and take their devil money with them”. You are a fucking charity group, how can you be selective on who you allow to donate money?

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    NovaBlack says:

    ”You know, maybe it’s just me, but somehow I doubt a hungry child gives a rat’s ass where the money comes from to feed him, clothe him, or put a better roof over his head”



    This quote = wins everything.

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    E. Zachary Knight says:

    So a church (or rather the people in the church) donated money to oppose a practice that has been declared a sin by God. So what. Did you know that that same Mormon church is often the First ORganization besides the Red Cross at the scene of major natural disasters? Katrina, Tiawan, etc, they were there with volunteer help, relief aid and supplies. The Mormon Church spends 100s of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid every year and you criticize them for providing support for a cause they feel is proscribed by God?

    Glad to see there is no bias in your eyes.

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    Baruch_S says:

    Yes, because heaven forbid they try to push their own views in the political field. It’s not like people have different priorities or anything. Obviously, everyone should agree with you and put all their money toward helping the cause you see as important. After all, why should they care about anything that happens in their own country? They should be focusing all their attention on the children in Africa!

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    Overcast says:

    "This decision should in no way be interpreted as CCF holding an opinion on Mr. Gygax, gaming enthusiasts or the game Dungeons and Dragons."

    They shouldn’t lie either then – if that was NOT the case, they would have accepted it.

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    mogbert says:

    I haven’t trusted most charities since I found how much went to "overhead" costs, and while the corporations may be non-profit, the lower people who work there are usually paid fairly low amounts, considering; and the peoplpe who are high up in the organization usually get paid big. Some of these charity organizers are running around with six/seven figure salaries from these donations.

    That’s why I support Child’s Play. Everyone who is in it is a volunteer. The figure heads make their money elsewhere, and the organizers with them. All of the money goes to hospitals (and all the games).

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    sirjonk says:

    Good, another nail in the coffin of organized religion.  Supposedly, Jesus died to save everyone and to teach love and understanding, caring for the poor and downtrodden, the sick and needy. Instead you get the Mormon Church donating over $20 Million in California to oppose same sex marriage.  I’m sure there’s no starving kids around the world who would have rather seen that money come their way, no sick or diseased people in hospitals.  Nope, please, don’t help my village get a vaccine, make sure gays can’t get married.  Doing god’s work.  Hypocrites.

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    Doomsong says:

    Hooray for the intolerance inspired by religious ignorance!!!

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" – Benjamin Franklin

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    Keith K says:

    Well hopefully the money can be donated to a more deserving charity instead. Perhaps a children’s hospital. At least then the money will be used to help children in need without forcing them to convert to christianity first.

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    Spartan says:

    When I was a youth (first gen D&D player) lot of conservatives and generally pious people look at D&D as a way of life and that is the very definition of religion. So it would stand to reason that it would viewed as competition. Oddly enough MMOs are the new D&D in that regard.


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    TaoJeannes says:

    Wow, even GamePolitics didn’t do its homework.

    If you’d read past the headline, you would have realized that the convention also included pornographic materials, and THAT was the real problem, not D&D. So this was not those evil uberconservatives out to destroy the world again with their hate. It was PR, plain as that.

    Dennis, you owe your readers the FULL STORY. I am disappointed in the fact that you didn’t dig deeper than this.

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    -Jes- says:

    So a bunch of 20-30 year olds enjoying roleplay is apparently a danger to the CCF’s integrity?

    Sounds more like a refusal based on religious views to me!

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    gamadaya says:

    Yes, those Japanese really suffer from their secularism. Nevermind that they give more money to foreign aid than the US consistantly despite having a lower GDP, and that they often give more than promissed.

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    Neeneko says:

    Christianity and charity have always made a mixed bag.  On the one hand, once you have a structure like that in place it will generally be used to wield power.   Controling needed aid has always been a good way to get converts, loyalty, etc.  The abuses of this have a long history.

    On the other hand, the idea of charity that Chrisitianity puts forward and the work a lot of well meaning Christians do has done a LOT of good.  All you have to do is look at regions (say, Japan and it’s treatment of the poor) that don’t have a religious push for giving to see how horrible things can get without it.

    So the fact that Chrisitianty encourages charity,.. wonderful thing.  The fact that organized charities end up being vehicles of power, bad thing.  So the classic ‘idea good, organized institution bad’ problem.

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    Geoff says:

    And this is why I don’t donate to religious charities.  While I don’t hate on religion like Spartan, religion-based charities are notorious for holding up their biases over actually helping people.  Not just with accepting donations either, but refusing to help people as well.  Two examples I can think of off the top of my head; leper colonies in South America who won’t feed the lepers unless they pray and a Christian women’s shelter kicking out a Wiccan because she won’t convert.

    If you have money to give to a charity, choose a non-denominational one.  They will gladly take the money to actually help people and not worry about saving face. 


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    Overcast says:

    I don’t even see how they even come to that conslusion. It’s not the ‘charity’ supporting a thing – it’s the donations supporting the charity.

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    sortableturnip says:

    I bet if Tom Cruise or John Trovolta or Priscilla Presley donated to them, even though they are Scientologists, they would take it without blinking an eye.

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    E. Zachary Knight says:

    Why would they think it would look like they supported Gygax and D&D? Don’t charities receive controbutions from a number of different people and organizations some with conflicting ideals to each other and the charity.

    Perhaps they could not be so picky, like the charity that actually accepted the 17 grand.

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    Vake Xeacons says:

    Likewise. The CCF begs for money on TV, yet refuses it if if comes from “shady characters.” Well, it’s better the money went somewhere else. The CCF is a pack of lies. That money would just go to fund more TV ads.

    I’ll tell you one thing though; you’ll never see ads for the REAL charities, on TV. They don’t waste money on advertisment. They spred news by word of mouth. Promisekeepers, for instance, is everything the CCF claims to be, and more. PK spends their limited funds on what they should: improving the lives of poverty and hunger stricken families in 3rd world countries. And despite the fact that they are the most successful missionary program in the world, I bet most of you have never heard of them. Because they don’t have money for TV.

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    Zen says:

    Well, now we can ignore how guilty they try and make everyone with their commercials since they have chosen that the "damn dirty D&D players" are better to ignore and rebuke…then to take the money and help out a crap load of kids as they always claim.  Just a bunch of BS to me. 

    @ Jes: I agree completely. 

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    Solipsis says:

    The ridiculous thing is, that if everyone donated the same amount of money in their own names instead of as a group, they’d have taken it without any problem. How silly.

    Hear Hear for Anonymity!


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    JC says:

    They state it is his favorite charity, he obviously donated before. Would they retroactively return old proceeds as well instead of be affiliated with Gygax? @__@

    They claim it isn’t becase of it being gamed based, but isn’t that an outright lie since the money wasn’t denied until after they learned it came from D&D profits? 

  46. 0
    DeepThorn says:

    Wow, just wow…  This figures, those idiots…  Yeah, I would be willing to accept the return of any of those donations to build up my retirement off of, haha.  Even if it totaled $50,000 it would be a hell of a boost.

    I just can’t believe that they are acting like this.  I kind of want to know more about this group, but then again, a stupid religious based group/organization is a stupid religious based group/organization.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    "Unfortunately, according to a post on Live Game Auctions, the CCF refused the donation when it found out that the money would partially come from the sale of D&D merchandise."

    *facepalm* Those idiots…

    EDIT: Good find, Andrew!


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    Baruch_S says:

    I can understand why a religious charity would have to be careful about who they take donations from, but refusing a donation from a memorial auction? Unless the auction was selling porn, I don’t see why they didn’t take the money. The Dungeons and Dragons controversy died down years ago. Heck, the kids who were playing D&D during the controversy are probably the adults in charge of the charity now. It would be terrible if they refused a donation because of the sale of D&D merchandise. Of course, they could also be affiliated with one of the few ultra-conservative churches that says and does the stuff that makes the entire Christian religion look bad.

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    Spartan says:

    Religion- always a bad idea…

    I have always wondered why Gary never set up a D&D charity foundation for kids. Now I know.

    RIP GG!


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    nightwng2000 says:

    Various groups decide to come together to host events to receive donations which, then, are distributed to major organizations such as CCF.

    Many have positive and negative stances.  While the CCF CLAIMS that it isn’t about its attitudes towards the gaming community, one wonders if they would accept money from a religious group who had ties to "family values" that included promoting bigotry and hate against whole groups of Humans.  Would the CCF, after discovering this, argue religious freedom and accept the money or decline/return the money?  Would it be acceptable if it weren’t widely publically known?

    Selective acceptance, at the cost of those who would receive the financial help, will always be seen as a form of bias, no matter what the political response is by them.

    It’s good that SOMEONE can see past the games and see the help being offered.  The Fisher House Foundation clearly sees that the needs of those they help are far more important than any personal, religious, and/or political agenda.


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