Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

November 11, 2008 -

Kotaku reports that a Fallout 3 side quest involving the possible detonation of an unexploded nuclear bomb has been edited out of the Japanese version of the best-selling game.

Developer Bethesda has made changes to the Japanese Fallout 3. The side-quest The Power of the Atom has been changed. Non-playable-character Mr. Burke has been taken out of this side-quest, removing the option of detonating the nuclear bomb.

 

That's not all, the name of a weapon was changed as it was deemed "inappropriate" for Japan. Smart money says the weapon is mini-nuke launcher "Fat Man" for obvious reasons. The online reaction from the Japanese users seems to be largely disappointment to these edits. Fallout 3 goes on sale in Japan this December.

Japan, of course, is the only nation to have been attacked with a nuclear weapon to date, so cultural sensitivities to the issue are understandable. The atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki at the end of World War II was nicknamed "Fat Man."


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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

I have yet to see anyone take offense to being called a Yankee, or a Canuck. Heck, I think this is the first time I've seen someone claim that they're racist terms. film izle

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I live in Japan and have a teenage Japanese boy and he has many, many gamer friends (they drive me nuts - often) and I know a lot of other 20 - 40 somethings since I have been here for a very long time and I asked over 40 adults and about 20 kids if they took offense on this point and NONE of them said they had an issue with having nukes in a game. The reason given was pretty much that since they are on TV, in the movies and in manga what would be the point and it would not be fair. So seems to me someone got sold a load of shit at Beth.

I also live about 10 minutes from Keio U and I bet if I would go there and do a proper survey the results would be the same.

BTW: I'm an American - none Japanese

 

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

I kinda feel that the real victims in this are the Japanese Gamers who wanted the full version.

Like from the things we have all been exposed to on the news, I kinda feel like they wanted to play the game with a Neuclear bomb.

It is like a history lesson within a fictional Videogame world to them that is being denied because of their countries censorship laws against heavy digitally realistic Violence.

So I feel sorry for the Japanese Gamers.

As for the Rape in WW2, heck everyone was doing it.

Even the Germans, the French, the Italians, the Americans, the Brittish, the Australians, (Yes, I come from Australia but I admit that there is always possibile for that sort of thing to be going on behind the country's back that I am not aware of)

War is horrible, and instead of hiding it or trying to say that only the bad guys were doing it, we should focus on the fact that in war everywhere almost everyone was doing crimminal things....

Yet the Politicians will only talk about the dead but they will never talk about how they are the ones who said if or when their country should go to war.

I feel sad for those who died and those who did not want to go to war but were forced.

As for the comments about the tentacles, I have really deep feelings about the tentacles in both positive and negative ways.

Rape is horrible in reality, but to have it in fiction like Anime/Hentai, Manga/Hentai and also Hentai Games is one way to focus on the real issues without making it realistic. So it is a bit better than the realistic rape in my view.

But even then, companies in Japan like Nintendo, Sony and even Sega NEVER EVER went into that sort of thing when they were marketing their Videogame Consoles to a world wide market.

Like ever since games like Custer Revenge on the Atari that was the first reason why many of the Japanese companies wanted to have full say of what games come onto their consoles because they never wanted Pornographic games in the first place if their console is going to be marketed.

Only if there were a console that was not doing well commercially did a comany ever decided to having Hentai games on their consoles, but that also ment that their consoles would only be avaliable in Japan and no where else,

so Hentai games before the days of the Internet were like a double edge sword, you could market to that sort of audience but at a cost you could never really sell them in a world wide level.

To those who try to say that GTA is like a rape game, those people have never really played any videogame at all, or much less their knowlage of Hentai or Porn in Videogames is really limited to their lack of understanding.

Also for the tentacles, tentacles was used for artwork in the 1500s like "The Fisherman's Wife" was more like tentacle love, NOT tentacle rape. But it was used as inspiration for the 80's Classic Hentai such as Legend of the Overfiend and also La Blue Girl that first started out as Manga Hentai and then translated over to Anime Hentai.

You could also say that Hollywood had something invovled as there have been many 50's movies that had Plants that had tentacles (Voodoo Island for example) that attacked women who were bathing in a lake in the jungle. Or even the famous Tree Rape scene from the Evil Dead movie that was set in the early 80s.

So yeah, for anyone who wanted to write about tentacles and Hentai I would suggest to do a little bit of history lesson and even look on wikepidea for a start to understand this. Or else I believe there may be many ignorant comments here that is not really needed.

TBoneTony

ps. and believe me, I know about the tentacles, so please be careful as it is quite sensitive to me.

pps. There have been some themes from WW2 in Anime, like Grave of the Fireflies that was one of the Studio Ghibli films and also there was a Hentai called Adventure Kid that also had themes of WW2 Rape and the Bomb that hit Heroshima.

So yeah, it may be sensitive to talk about WW2 but Anime and Manga has delved into a little bit of that so far.

TBoneTony

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Seriously? 'Heck, everyone was doing it'? If Japan jumped off a cliff, would you do it too?

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

I guess this would make sense....

If the game took place in post-apocalyptic Japan....

There comes a point where you really need to say, "Hey, I know this may really hit home on something horrible that happened in your nations past... but being that the situation is completely turned around in this context, we need to accept it for what it is and get on with our lives."

If the subject matter at hand is still so touchy then why the hell was the opening sequence of Akira made the way it is?

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

It's a bit like the removal of that song from Little Big Planet.

Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

A little bit but there are some big differences.

1. The song is apparently blasphemy to Muslim religious code, there's no guarantee that the Japs would get really offended by the nuke.

2. LBP was rated E and looks like a kiddy game with that in mind they had more of a reason to ensure it offended as little as possible (within reason).

3. It didn't result in a delay and it's only for one region (thus avoiding the wrath of people looking forward to the timely or uncensored release of the game).

Oh and the good news is that according to this article some of the Japs don't like the changes and complained about them. I know I'd be probably complain if something like this was done for the U.S.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Except for the fact that the Japanese atrocities stem from slaughtering innocent nurses, mass rapings, forcing rape on other families I can go on with the list. Feck historians have considered the fact of what the Japanese did near equal to what the we call the Nazi Holocaust, hell they call it the asian holocaust. Also we might as well remove cannabilism since the Japanese army liked to eat there POWs. ---- Rumblerumblerumber
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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

While I am sorry about what heppened it's been what, 63 years? I mean come on.

So it's ok to be in a bombed out DC, have the bomb displayed in the center of town, and have  a (renamed) bomb launcher but actually seeing one go off now that's going too far?

I'm getting sick of games getting changed because they aren't politically correct. Games should be what they are and if you don't like it then **** OFF!

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Relax man, if ya read further into this whole thing. You'd realise that its Bethesda being PC about it and censoring themselves pre-emptively. Also, if you noticed, the Japanese gamers are kinda put off that Bethesda would do something so silly...

On a side note, I would point you towards the Space Invaders/WTC display thingy. That's the point which people who've experienced disaster want to make.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

They should make a patch available for voluntary download that adds it back in. Much like they should have made the game playable at a lower violence/gore level. Woulda kept my pre-order then.

Then I'd have found out they lied about their DRM scheme and gotten hugely majorly POed.

Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Well I feel the gore levels in raider bases is unneeded in Super mutants since they are eating humans...ya...its needed but a gore slider would be nice, I'd like less decaptacions and more rare head explosions.


I dunno about creo but the ESRB dose not allow for  rating changing modifications made by the devs/publishers.

 

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

 The Japanese reaped what they sowed when they were attacked with nuclear weapons. Anyone whose read up on their occupation of southeast asian countries will have very little remorse for the use of these weapons. The Japanese medical experimentation unit, Unit 731, committed some of the most vile acts of cruelty and inhumanity known to science to date.

 But lets not have our games show nukes, the Japanese are "sensitive" people...

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Look at it this way, while their troops and millitary and leaders have done some pretty nasty stuff. They hurt civilians. They bombed lands, killed people. Was it justified to do the same to their civilians? As far as I could tell, the majority of the victims of the bombs were civilians. 

Anyway, the main thing that irritates me after reading on the atrocities and the bombs was this, the Japanese Emperor then was all but ready to end the war and was going to accept the peace offer and surrender. However in typical fashion, they sent a statement out asking for time to deliberate. However, they used a term which literally translated, was the equivalent of "Keep in View". Which when translated can mean "ignore" or "deliberate". The translator used ignore in his submission to the Allies. Hence the bombs went down on people who were tired and wanted to give up.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

They were sent two ultimatums. The last one explicitly mentioned that the U.S. could destroy cities. They really didn't have an excuse to deliberate further. This was all, by the way, after the firebombing of Tokyo, which killed more people and did more damage than either bomb. The emporer had no real power, either.

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And people, this is an inherent danger of only relying on someone else's knowledge and why why you DON'T use just one translator for important communications. It's too easy for someone to put their "Spin" on what they are translating and thus influencing the outcome.

 

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Well, you have a point. Technically speaking, my view that they were going to give up may be wrong, and that they were ignoring the surrender demand.. But I guess at this point in time, any debate over it is kinda like "Too Little, Too Late".  Of course translation wise,  based on my own experience, it wasn't easy a job as the Japanese response then was kinda terse.. (Speaking from my experience being a holder of JLPT level 2 and taking level 1 this year)

Of course, then we can have the conspiracy theory of how the translator had it in for the Japanese and wanted them to get nuked to hell... =/

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

This is true and if the US did a full attack and dropped a few thousand normal bombs the outcome would have been the same only with a few 100K wroth of US casualties.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Kinda of silly,this is jsut a marketing tactic and for a mature rated game...why? It smacks of retardness from any grounds other than not wanting to often the amrket you are trying to sell the product in.

 

Of corse if they toned the gore down and made it a teen class game then I can see it but still........

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I don't really see why they would even bother to edit it out at all. Constantly shying away from past events like it will scar people just gets us nowhere. This is even more considering that the Japanese gamers them selves don't care.

and honestly, I love everything about japan and it's culture(more than just anime =P), but when it comes to WWII, i honestly don't feel much for them when i remember i had family in Pearl Harbor, despite the fact that i know how horible it was for us to drop a nuke on any country. That being said though, i have no problem with games that take place in Pearl Harbor because i know it's a VIDEO GAME.

 

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So just about every anime movie ever made starts or ends with a nuclear holocaust, and Fallout 3 has to be censored?  Japan has been getting more conservative lately, but this is disappointing.

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What a failure.  Bethesda fails in their stated goal of making the game "the same in all regions" (despite justifying some of their earlier censor-y changes under that rationale), and they shy away from contraversey in a game that <I>supposed</I> to be contraversial.  It doesn't make sense to me that a game about the aftermath of nuclear war would try to tiptoe around the topic of nuclear war, even in Japan.

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PR/suits ruin games.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

I know people will shout "censorship is evaaal" at the top of their lungs, but this is a voluntary decision made by the developers for the purposes of cultural sensitivity. Cultural sensitivity is overall a good thing.

Does it suck for Japanese players who want to play the additional mission? Yes. However, Bethesda made a political decision here: it's better to upset a minority by stripping the content, who still have the choice of importing if they want it, than to upset the majority by including strong references to a very recent atrocity.

Remember when they changed the box art for Red Alert 2, which originally featured an attack on the WTC? It's roughly the same principle, but in this case a mission has been scrapped instead of a piece of art.

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Two-parter.  First, it was RIGHT AFTER the WTC fell. It was still fresh in everyone's mind.   We bombed Japan over 60 years ago.

Second, the WTC don't exist anymore.  Leaving them in games and art makes less sense, because they're no longer a part of the New York skyline.  The most recognizable skyline in the world. 

Plus, in Fallout, it's not like they recreated Hiroshima virtually and then blew it up.  They blew up a rickety shanty town in what is left of the United States.  If anything, some Japanese might think of it as some virtual payback.  :)

Case in point, to show that I, as an American, no longer treat the WTC with any kind of overblown sensitivity.  I am currently looking for a very cool ad that featured the WTC, but disappeared after 9/11.  Back before most people knew there was going to be a new series fo Spiderman movies, there was an trailer where some bankrobbers are getting away in a helecopter, when suddenly the copter goes out of control.  They pull back the camera to show the copter stuck in a web between the Two Towers.  Seeing that trailer the first time, was one of those "aww, cool!" moments that you sometimes get in a theater.

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The problem with that there is that the WTC where still in Red Alert 2, hell you could capture em or destroyed them if you wanted to. So ya..point aside I just made it invalid *pelvic thrust*
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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

The thing is, a chunk of the game is a bit more substantial than a piece of box art.

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It's not really a unique idea.  Inclusion of the WTC has been removed from TV shows, games/simulations, and movies.    It seems both an issue of sensitivity and overly sensitive at the same time in some cases.  Sometimes, it seems like rewriting history, for example, removing the WTC from Flight Simulator and not having the option to have it included and omitted depending on the pilot.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

So why hasn't someone gotten as1r banned yet for spamming?

Back to the point, while I disagree with what Bethesda is doing. People have to remember that gamers aren't the majority of people that live in Japan, and most politicians are of the age to have been alive when said occurances happened or born sometime closely after the nuclear attack. I guess they just want to have their game released in Japan without any delays.

Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Can't read...is that Arabic?

 

Yeah I can understand the POV of the older Japanese generation, the areas around Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still feeling the effects of the blasts (much higher then average rates of cancer and birth defects being the main lingering effects.)

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And not even in english...

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

I thought that 1940/1950s virtual reality simulator i went through at the other vault in that game was funny, I couldnt quit laughing after i tricked one character into using the oven.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

What happened in Japan is a tragedy, but it happened a while ago. And while they were the only ones to ever experience a nuclear strike, they also committed horrific acts during the war, so it's wrong of anyone to say they are an innocent party anyway.

Either way, sucks for the players in Japan who are going to be missing out on a quest, but is it really all that important? Besides that, I think Fallout 3 is region free, yes? Maybe they can import if they want to play the quest that badly.

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Well, the quest is really fun for evil characters.  And the Fat Man weapon is fun as hell to use.  So yeah, I think they're getting a lesser game.

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It's only the quest being removed, the launcher is still there just under a different name, it's not a great deal differnet from not using 'morphine' in the game

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Thats to bad that they are tearing stuff out of the game for no other reason than they think it may offend ... I could understand if there was a huge outcry from Japan but from everything I have seen they are very pragmatic about the nuclear bombings and I truly doubt there is a huge outcry against fallout 3.

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Bah, my reply jumped to a different post.  Ignore...

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I say Bethesda overstepped here.  It was unnecessary, and the Japanese gamers seem to agree.

At what point are you supposed to stop being "sensitive" about past tragedies?  Haven't there been a few games that more or less destroy New York?  Shouldn't we be thinking about the victims of 9/11 when releasing "Turning Point: Fall of Liberty"?  How about that guy that wrote in to the newspaper, deeply offended about seeing DC ravaged in Fallout ads in the subway?  Didn't most of us dismiss him?  Should be put all Civil War games on hold, lest we stir up old feelings of the tragedy that killed more Americans than any other war?

Ok, Japan is the only country that got a nuke dropped on them.  But that was over 60 years ago.  Time to move on.  If you're beholden to every tragedy that has ever happened in history, then every subject matter would be off limits.

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"If you're beholden to every tragedy that has ever happened in history, then every subject matter would be off limits."

Hear Hear. If only more people realized this.

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Funny that everyone keeps mentioning MGS2 -- didn't they edit the end of that game to not show the destruction of New York because of the proximity to 9/11?

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Re: Report: Fallout 3 Nuke Quest Nixed for Japanese Market

Can't say I'm surprised, probably a good idea.

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Back in the 60s and 70s, kids were growing up on Japanese shows like Speed Racer and Astro Boy.

About a decade later, Japanese game developers were witholding or editing their games to make them politically correct for US markets, under the rationale that Americans would take offense at their Japanese crap.

Now WE are editing OUR games to make them politically correct for THEIR markets under the rationale that Japanese will take offense at OUR American crap.

And yet we're driving Japanese cars, watching Japanese cartoons on Japanese TVs, adapting Japanese media into movies for watching on those Japanese TVs, and playing Japanese video games on Japanese game consoles hooked up to those same Japanese TVs. We use Japanese massages and remedies for recreation and relaxation, and we teach our kids Japanese martial arts techniques.

Everything else, we get from China.

 

Not to be insensitive or anything. It was probably better that they DID edit that stuff out, considering Japan's history with nuclear weapons. But when you think about their history with US trading, it gets pretty ironic.

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I hate to nitpick, but I'd rather die before teaching my kids traditional Japanese Martial Arts. They have a lot of them, but the only ones that are worth a darn, in my humble opinion, are Judo and JuJutsu... and maybe hapkido. Give me San Soo Kung Fu or Jeet Kun Do anyday of the week.

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 Some great points

I had to laugh at 'everything else is from China' heh heh 

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I should also mention that the original Astro Boy manga, being written during WWII (the same war that ended with Japan getting nuked), features American forces as recurring villains throughout the series.

Today, you can walk into any store that sells manga and buy a copy of any of the Astro Boy manga without fear of arrest or criticism (besides you buying manga, otaku fantard! :P). Even today, Astro Boy still retains popularity in both Japan and the US.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if Americans can handle a Japanese manga that villainizes them and the US Armed Forces at every turn (not to mention features a kid with buttcheek-mounted lasers. Really, WTF?), Japanese can handle an American video game with nukes in it? (But fortunately, no butt lasers.)

 

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Actually, having been a fan of anime/manga (not so much anymore, it all started to blur together after a while, it's all the same themes and humor), you get used to Americans being the "villan" repeatedly, not just in Astro Boy.  Pretty much any time an anime/manga writer needs a crass, overstepping government, or arrogant, ineffective military personel, they turn to the US.

NGE, the remenants of the US Navy are made out to be completely useless and comical.  Ghost in the Shell: SAC frequently shines the US as a pack of assholes, even when Japanese and American individuals are working together (to be fair, the Japanese government is often shown negatively, as well).  Blood Plus, the evil country working to unleach the monsters on the world were Americans.  Code Geass changed the name and the history, but frequently shows the evil empire on maps coming from here.  In Read or Die!, the US President is trigger happy with the military, and pees his pants twice during a two hour OVA.  I can list many more, but you get the picture.

Yet, I just shrug my shoulders.  I don't expect them to change or edit those shows to appease my sensitivities.  It's just a story.  So, I agree that Bethesda didn't need to do this, no matter what reason people use to justify it.  The Japanese can handle it.  Hell, considering the nuke is on American soil, some might even enjoy a little virtual payback.  :)

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Wow, you almost had me.  Except for the Code Geass part.  If you look at the behaviors of the empire, the colonization, the militant expansion and demands on conquered regions, and the fact that the envil empire has it's roots in Europe and goes by the name of Britiannia and somehow you see "America," kinda of speaks volumes of your pursuit of a theme.  I mean, the even REVEAL the homeland of Britannia in the name for crying out loud and America, I believe, is Area 7.

I mean, the Holy Empire of Britannia is... America?  Really?!?  What series were you watching?  All of that was clearly Europian Nobility social class or rather a form of social darwinism that Britian pushed for majority of the countries lifespan.

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Perfectly Understandble. I mean hey, if someone made a game with a reference of something horrible that happend in this countries past i would be offended.

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Look up reactions to the 9/11 Space Invaders mod.

But in the end, it has more to do with something everyone here seems to be forgetting.  If this was a flash game, developers could throw in a kitten raping minigame between rousting rounds of "smear the queer" carmageddon clone runs through the streets of San Francisco.  But this isn't just some flash game.

This is a commercially developed and released game.  The GAMERS are not so much the worry for Bethesda.  The Japanese media that's currently intent on crucifying the game industry as a plague on the youth, however, are the concern.  Nuclear deployment themes mixed with a weapon named FatBoy makes for a hell of a news story.  Keep in mind, Japan has news stations just like Fox.

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I'd like to point out something: Metal Gear Solid 2. One of the member of Dead Cell was, in fact, named "Fat Man," most likely named so due to his mastery of bomb-making. I know that it was the name of a character instead of a mini-nuke-launcher, but still...

Alternatively, they could've called it a "Davy Crockett." Though, since those actually existed, they might have ruled that out...

 
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Neo_DrKefkaSomeone anyone tell me how two wrongs somehow make a right? This is becoming exhausting and both sides are out of there minds!10/25/2014 - 11:40am
Neo_DrKefkaSo two GamerGate supporters received a knife and syringe in the mail today. The same GamerGate supporters who said how awful it was were seen in other tweets gathering lists and sending our similar threats or harassment to shut down the other side....10/25/2014 - 11:36am
NeenekoJust look at how interviews are handled. Media tends to pit someone who is at best a journalist, but usually entertainer, against an expert, and it is presented and percieved as if they are equals.10/25/2014 - 7:38am
Neeneko@MC - Focusing on perpetrator does nothing for prevention, the media and public lack the domain knowledge and event details to draw any useful conclusions. All we get are armchair risk experts.10/25/2014 - 7:36am
Neeneko@AE - no name or picture, I like it.10/25/2014 - 7:34am
PHX Corp@MW and AE The news media needs to stop promoting the Shooters. period10/25/2014 - 7:16am
Andrew EisenWhen I write about these massacres, I don't use the shooter's name or picture. I'm not saying everyone has to play it that way but that's how I prefer to do it.10/25/2014 - 12:44am
Andrew EisenYep, it's why the news media stopped spotlighting numbnuts who run out on the field during sporting events.10/25/2014 - 12:01am
Matthew Wilsonin media research its called the copycat effect. it simply says that if the news covers one mass shooting shooter, it increases the likelihood of another person going on a mass shooting.10/25/2014 - 12:00am
Andrew EisenAgreed. It bugs me that I know the names, faces and personal histories of a bunch of mass shooters but I couldn't tell you the name of or recognize a photo of a single one of their victims.10/24/2014 - 11:51pm
AvalongodAgree with Quiknkold. @Mecha...if that worked we would have figured out how to prevent these long ago.10/24/2014 - 11:32pm
MechaCrashUnfortunately, you have to focus on the perpetrator to figure out the whys so you can try to prevent it from happening again.10/24/2014 - 10:55pm
quiknkoldpoor girl. poor victims. rather focus on them then the shooter. giving too much thought to the monster takes away from the victims.10/24/2014 - 10:15pm
Andrew EisenFor what it's worth, early reports are painting the motive as "he was pissed that a particular girl wouldn't date him."10/24/2014 - 10:12pm
quiknkoldwell then I suck as a man cause I ask for help when necessary :P10/24/2014 - 10:07pm
Technogeek(That said, mostly I was making the smartass evopsych comment because your post seemed like the kind of just-so story that has come to dominate 99% of its usage.)10/24/2014 - 10:04pm
TechnogeekHell, Liam Neeson built his modern career around it. Cultural factors likely play a far greater role than you appear willing to admit.10/24/2014 - 10:03pm
TechnogeekSeriously, though, the idea of "because women are protectors and that's why they never commit school shootings" is, at best, grossly overreductive. There's nothing inherently feminine about being willing to kill in order to protect one's offspring.10/24/2014 - 10:03pm
MechaCrashThe "toxic masculinity" thing refers to how you have to SUCK IT UP AND BE A MAN because seeking help is seen as weakness, which means you suck at manliness, so it builds and builds and builds until something finally snaps.10/24/2014 - 10:01pm
quiknkoldthere, I'm done. And thats what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown10/24/2014 - 9:54pm
 

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