Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Police in Winnipeg believe that a quartet of youthful offenders were acting out in video game-like fashion by stealing cars and fleeing from pursuing officers.

CBC reports on comments by Sgt. Doug Safioles:

They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it’s a game. It’s a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases.

Safioles, who did not link the teens to a specific game, made similar comments in May. At that time, however, a youth advocate linked the crimes to the region’s high level of poverty.

Meanwhile, in Australia, the Daily Telegraph reports that Superintendent Dave Evans of the New South Wales police has blamed video games for a lack of responsibility on the part of teen drivers:

Video games can have a negative impact on young drivers because it increases their complacency and their indulgence in risk-taking behaviour. In games you race, you crash and it is a matter of pressing the buttons and off you go again. In real life it doesn’t work that way, you can be killed.

 

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  1. QueyJoh says:

    Unfortunately, I gotta agree with ’em.

    I had a mate a few years back who was obsessed with NFS:Underground. Getting in a car with him after he’d played for a few hours was taking your life in your hands, we was a far more reckless driver after playing than other times.

    And no, it wasn’t a coincidence, he was fine most of the time, it was playing Need For Speed that made him drive that way. When we pointed it out to him, he had to agree. Didn’t stop him though.

  2. Jarrod from Australia says:

    If anything games have shown me how dangerous driving under the influence is. Take GTA4 for example driving home after going drinking with ur homie is almost impossible to do without crashing mulitple times.

  3. Cecil475 says:

    "Maybe if some video game exec whose company makes a car-steling game has his daughter tragically run over by a stolen car driven by a teen, then the industry will "get it."  If cops get shot and killed because of a cop-killing game, no problem for people like Strauss Zelnick.  That’s somebody else’s tragedy, right Strauss?  Jack Thompson"

    You shouldn’t be saying stuff like that. That can be used as a threat.

     – Warren Lewis

     


    R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016

  4. Adamas Draconis says:

    Exactly. They couldn’t figure out how to legally write laws against Necrophillia and beastiallity, so they outlawed the actual acts (Aka violation of a corpse and animal abuse).

    Kinda like the Sodomy laws. They can’t outlaw homosexuality so they outlaw homosexual SEX.

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  5. ezbiker555 says:

    I kinda see the connection but at the same time i also see that this is blown out of porportion two.

    As for Jack, you shouldn’t call someone retarded. Makes you look more of a mentally challegned person, mayby your parents were retarted, or mayby you can’t grow up like I can. In fact, piss off, your wasting my time here even being on here.

  6. Derovius says:

     That image should be in the top right corner of this site, not the controller. Says more than anyone/anything else on GP.

  7. Derovius says:

     I’d like to hear your take on how one can love a corpse without desecrating it. Its like a chicken or the egg thing, isn’t it?

  8. Derovius says:

     In my difference, they have to have good genes in there somewhere if daddy is on the cover of a fitness magazine.

  9. Zevorick says:

    Notice the slight dip in crimes in 1984. I like to take credit for that. My birth truly was miraculous… wait, I was born in December, which means that when I was born, violent crimes were goign up after an all time now! Aw hell, what have I done?!

  10. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    WIN.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  11. Zevorick says:

    That’s… sadly the legal reasoning behind why necrophelia and beastiality are illegal. The fact they had to come up with that legal jargon to say you shouldn’t be screwing dead people and animals is sad.

  12. InsidiousMrMoo says:

    "These are the same bran scan studies"

    Mr Thompson I would ask that you please keep bran out of this, I know in your old age it helps you little tummy feel better but lets talk about the issues.

    That is all.

  13. CyberSkull says:

    As long as there have been cars there have been dumbasses that steal them and joy ride. How is that news?

  14. Adamas Draconis says:

    And the guy named after a dragon FTW! Here, have a cookie. *Holds out a plate of various cookies,danishes etc.* And Jackie, you can’t have any, your too dumb.

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  15. Adamas Draconis says:

    *Comes running up with a burning torch* Awwww. I was wanting to light it!  J/K

     

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  16. Adamas Draconis says:

    Whats bad, Necrophilia isn’t illegal. It’s the desecration of a corpse thats illegal.

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  17. TBoneTony says:

    Take a look at the driving car accidents of the last 50 years, and the numbers…

    People were driving at a faster speed back then than they did now,

    they did not wear seat belts.

    They even had dogs, cats and other pets sit in their laps while driving.

    And now people are looking at blaming Videogames for today’s car crashes?

    I know that there is a hoon culture but it has been there for many years since the invertion of the cars. But to blame videogames for the skills of young P platers when the problems in society have been going on for many years before videogames is just plan reckless and does not solve any problems at all.

    TBoneTony

  18. Cerabret100 says:

    That’s the funny/weird thing about it.  even if i’m trying my best to obey the virtual traffic laws because

    a) my luck it’ll attract a wanted level and i’m trying to keep a low profile

    or

    b) Like the car i’m in

    That gets screwed about two seconds in an next thing you know i’m defying physics with hand brake turns and flooring it so hard the pedal should break just like you.  that’s when gta gets real good.

  19. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Someone go light the torches. I’m off to get the pitchforks. A-wel, for your crimes you are to be conscripted into assisting with the execution of a traitor. You set up the stake and lay some wood around it. Then I want you to soak both stake and woodpile in gasoline. Here’s the tank of gasoline. *hands him a gasoline tank* Let’s move, people!

    Kidding. But this should show you what Americans do to traitors.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  20. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Nooo, that’s just necrophilia. There’s nothing wrong with that. [/sarcasm]

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  21. Doomsong says:

    Since the police never specifically mentioned what game the kids all played… I’m going to assume that it’s Beautiful Katamari.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" – Benjamin Franklin

  22. BearDogg-X says:

    And a traitor against America.

    He even admitted it.

    Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.


    Proud supporter of the New Orleans Saints, LSU, 1st Amendment; Real American; Hound of Justice; Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always

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  23. Andrew Eisen says:

    Put another way: just because a kid doesn’t think he’s going to die as a result of driving like an ass doesn’t mean he thinks he can hit reset the universe if he does.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  24. mdo7 says:

     

    Jack, Jack, Jack.  You still don’t get it.  Video game does not cause REAL-LIFE VIOLENCE.  You do and your freakin activist who are probably covering up their bad parenting charges.  I think you’re the freakin conspiracy, you want to destroy the first amendment, so therefore you’re a communist and a spawn of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao Zedong.

  25. Andrew Eisen says:

    Oh indeed but there’s a huge difference between bad judgment and not being able to separate fantasy from reality.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  26. DavCube says:

    Oh GOLLY GEE, Mr. Thompson, i didn’t know that stealing cars was as easy as pressing a mysterious button in the shape of a triangle on the door of a car! It magically makes me super strong, takes control of my body, and steals the car! Wowee wow wow!

    Mr. Thompson, your claim that these are ‘simulators’ are a joke. Especially that bit about the rumble function a while back. The rumble functions the exact same way whether you run over a rock or there’s a nuclear explosion. The only thing that happens differently is the duration of the rumble. Besides, i didn’t know that running over something felt as near-unnoticable as my cell phone vibrating, which is what the controllers do.

  27. GTCv Deimos says:

    Umm… I’ve known plenty of teens who refuse to consider the consiquence of their actions. Hell, I know a lot of adults who suffer from the same problem.

    People sometimes use bad judgement… it’s been known to happen.

  28. Gabriel Celesta says:

    Just ignore him. He has no power anymore.

    If those lawyers and judges who filed complaints against Thompson decided to ignore him instead, he’d probably still have his power today. You think about that for a while, okay?

    Come to think of it, about 20 years ago, I think the Florida Bar decided essentially to ignore him instead of doing something about his disgusting conduct. One reason why he had his power for so long.

  29. Mattie says:

    Yes, and that’s what all of these politictions don’t realize. A Pre-schooler may not know the difference but a 16 year old would.

  30. nightwng2000 says:

    Dirty Dancing was to blame.

    Before that, comc books.

    Before that, communism.

    Before that, the Godless Rock n’ Roll.

    Before that, the Japanese.

    Before that, the Nazis.

    Before that, the Depression.

    Before that, The Rebs.

    Before that, Witches.

    Before that, Demon possession.

    Before that, Heathens.

    Before that, Unga Bunga  :: whacks you have the head with the newly discovered weapon:  the upper leg bone of my last victim. :: 

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

  31. Andrew Eisen says:

    I don’t know.  Every time I’ve driven bumper cars the operator tells everyone not to deliberately ram the other drivers.  I always found myself wondering, "Well what’s the point then?"

     

    Andrew Eisen

  32. KayleL says:

    Blame bumper cars. They teach you to hit other people, push the gas pedal to the floor, and you are in a car like environment.

  33. Mattie says:

    A childs sense of reason and knowing the difference between right and wrong is learned over time and doesnt just click when they turn 18.

  34. Andrew Eisen says:

    These "kids" were 16 and 17.  They know right from wrong.  They know that they could die or kill someone.

    Unless you’re completely psychotic or flat-out retarded, you do not confuse the rules of a game with the rules of real life.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  35. sortableturnip says:

    So, what is to blame for people who got into high speed chases and shot at police prior to the invention of the video game?

     

     

    The same as it is now…the person who did the crime!

  36. Sai says:

    Of course. It couldn’t possibly be that they think stealing cars and running from the cops is a game in itself. They must be talking about video games.

  37. hellfire7885 says:

    There’s a cheat to make the lights green all the time and for more aggressive drivers. Put both in and hilarity can ensue.


  38. ddrfr33k says:

    "You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies."

    He’s just taking .Hack to heart.

  39. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Just shut up already.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  40. Derovius says:

     I agree, for the safety of cars everywhere, we need to apprehend these girls now before its too late.

  41. Derovius says:

     In all honesty, I had no idea GTA had functioning traffick lights until Vice City; you really don’t pay close attention with your acceleration cranked while you thumb the handbrake.

  42. Cerabret100 says:

    I think my dad (and the rest of the world) should be thankful my real driving and GTA driving are completely seperate.

    In GTA even if i’m trying my hardest to drive well, going slow, watching the lights for cross traffic and everthing, i still usually end up torching the car in about 5 minutes.

    In real life i haven’t had an accident yet.

  43. GONK. says:

    Mr Thompson, you’ve spent the past couple of decades calling yourself a "moral crusader" or a "culture warrior." But there is NOTHING at all cultured about you celebrating every time a massacre occurs, and there is NOTHING at all moral about you glorifying the abuse and deaths of youngsters while lying through your anus-shaped mouth about a video game you’ve never seen in your wasted life being the direct cause of the world’s ills. VIDEO GAMES DO N-O-T JUMP UP AND SHOOT PEOPLE DEAD, YOU CORPSE-RAPING IDIOT.

    You falsely condemn make-believe violence while supporting and encouraging real violence. You take pride in doing a worse job at "protecting the children" than registered sex offenders. You are "living" proof that self-claimed moral crusaders are no better than terrorists, and entirely deserve to be treated as such. Now go back to your no-name blog – it seems to be the only place that is willing to overlook your criminal record of slander, deceit, fruad, intimidation, perjury and intent to cause physical harm.

  44. Matthew says:

    You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies.

    Be very careful what you say there, Erik. Don’t give Hollywood any reasons to make more awful technophobe horror movies.

  45. A-wel Cruiz says:

    Here’s a better idea. Just ignore him. He has no power anymore. All he’s looking for is a reaction. Don’t give it to him.

     

    *Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON’T FEED THE TROLL!*

  46. Erik says:

    Hey John Bruce.  I don’t think you realize, being that you have been vacationing in senile-town since forever, but the game Postal 2 includes a bloody rampage through a Running With Scissors office.  Running with Scissors being the company which made Postal 2.  And guess what?  There has not been any real life violence in the actual Running with Scissors office.  Wonder of wonders!

    You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies.  This is honestly bullshit.  As someone who has posted at Kotaku I fully support your idea for a Kotaku poster killing game.  Do you think such a concept would scare us?  Really.  You are so full of shit.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  47. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Maybe if some video game exec whose company makes a car-steling game has his daughter tragically run over by a stolen car driven by a teen, then the industry will "get it."

    …………………Holy shit. You really want to do that. You really want to hurt someone like that, don’t you? Don’t you?!

    Dennis! Dennis! Jack is really starting to freak me out. Should, uh….should something be done? Like, maybe…ban his new account…or notify the nearest Floridian police station, maybe…?

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  48. mitch079 says:

    Jack, why don’t you focus on the teens and young adults who have these sort of problems playing these games and their parents, instead of trying to outlaw the games?  Oh right, because going after a game is much easier than trying to actually solve the root cause of the behavioral problems of these individuals and getting them the help, therapy, and guidance they need.  You claim to be a Christian, why don’t you start acting like one?  (but then again so did priests who molested children and we all know how that’s turned out)

  49. Andrew Eisen says:

    Yeah, ’cause it’s completely beyond the realm of possibility that Zelnick would know or be related to someone in law enforcement.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  50. michelleobamarama says:

    Maybe if some video game exec whose company makes a car-steling game has his daughter tragically run over by a stolen car driven by a teen, then the industry will "get it."  If cops get shot and killed because of a cop-killing game, no problem for people like Strauss Zelnick.  That’s somebody else’s tragedy, right Strauss?  Jack Thompson 

  51. JustChris says:

    Despite your resilient attitude in your past career, I doubt that you had any real passion for law.

    How did I conclude this? Lawyers/attorneys are known for being suave talkers and having excellent soft skills. You have never displayed any examples of this.

  52. Cecil475 says:

    You do know you look stupid when you talk about yourself like that?

     – Warren Lewis


    R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016

  53. Erik says:

    Video games, genetics.  Is anyone EVER responsible for any of their own actions in your world John?

     

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  54. mdo7 says:

    Yeah, I’m sure that your father said Comic Book were evil, and so did movies and music.  Get a life Jack, you don’t have the power to sue like you did when you were a lawyer.

  55. DavCube says:

    Mr. Thompson, that’s no way to sound professional. Go back to your own blog, you’re clearly addicted to this one.

  56. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    As will I.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  57. A-wel Cruiz says:

    The reaction is what he wants. He’s the equal of an attention starved child screaming for attention, good or bad.

    We won. He lost. Period.

     

    *Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON’T FEED THE TROLL!*

  58. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Well, I certainly won’t sit by and let this bastard spew his hate without reacting in some way.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  59. A-wel Cruiz says:

    Guys seriously. Stop giving him a reaction. It’s what he wants.

     

    *Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON’T FEED THE TROLL!*

  60. JustChris says:

    I wish we could invent something to divert the scapegoating away- no, not a new form of media. Rather, a holy grail of culture that will make people future-proof for any potential culture shock that technology might bring us.

  61. Mendror says:

    I think Jack Thompson has some kind of sexual depression with Take Two and its video games, or maybe a sick obsession.

    I can imagine Jack hiding in a bush outside the offices of Take Two, stalking it…

  62. hellfire7885 says:

    Why the hell is it ALWAYS something Take Two related with you!?!?

    Sure you wrote to someone about Fallout 3, but at the end you brought up GTA and Take Two. You’re addicted to them.


  63. Derovius says:

     Actually Jacko, the guy in the wheel barrel has no legs (obviously), so he was obviously playing minesweeper, not GTA.

  64. mdo7 says:

     

    Are you retarded yourself, Jack.  Maybe you should have a brain check, as a matter of fact why don’t you take another psych check.  Maybe you blackmail or bribe that examing psychiatrist the first time you had your psych check.

  65. Cecil475 says:

    Whats with you and the first lady to be? 😛 Love your new gig. You gonna do a new spin zone on us?

     – Warren Lewis


    R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016

  66. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    All is well, brother.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  67. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Right. I don’t remember who first said that, but I was basically paraphrasing……I was close.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  68. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    "Remember this quote: ‘For evil to win, good men need only do nothing.’"

    I remember this quote from Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

    Alucard: It wasn’t, but remember, "the only thing necessary for evil to triumph…"

    Richter Belmont: "…is for good men to do nothing."

    Sure, it’s from the DXC version, but it’s virtually the same thing.

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  69. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Actually, you’re only half-right. He was stripped of his power of attorney, but he still has his razor-sharp activist teeth. And we gamers still need to be there when he makes a public appearance, wielding nail files and sand blasters to turn the

    I really wish I could ignore him; believe me, I’d love it if I could forget about him and he’d go away! But he won’t quit; because I have a voice, I won’t quit either. I’ll stop when he admits defeat, is convicted, committed, passes away from old age or sickness (I’m guessing the first one, since he’s about three decades older than me), excommunicated, or is completely and utterly humiliated; not just in the gaming media, but in the national media, or better, the world media. I really would love to ignore him and have him just go away, but it won’t be that simple. As long as he is here, spouting his hate, belching  I’ll stay right here, standing against him, parrying his arguments.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

    P.S. Since your sig says he whacks off to us arguing against us, isn’t that technically instigation?

    EDIT: Now if someone else tries to start a flame war with Thompson, then by all means, don’t tease the troll.

  70. mdo7 says:

    So Jack,

     

    I want to see those proof.  rule #1 of arguments, always have a good evidence.  You were known to fake up evidence and just moan and moan and bitchin around convincing people that video game were the cause of violence.

     

    Yeah I’m sure Charles Whitman in the 1966 when he shoot up University of Texas, he was on CounterStrike.

    So were the Chechen Rebels that killed bunch of little students in Russia, was that Counterstrike fault?

    So was the Kent State Massacre caused by Counterstrike in 1970 before Atari 2600 was released.

     

  71. Adamas Draconis says:

    Yeah I know. He just has used that phrasing so many times I had to ask.

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  72. NovaBlack says:

    ITs totally a dumb thing for even disbarredGuy to say.

    I mean put it this way.

    Lets say i have a certain number of existing sections in my brain to deal with different things.

    Each time i learn a new thing, my brain doesnt magically grow an extra kilogram of brain tissue just so it has an entirely new area to learn/process something. It just uses some of the tissue it already has.

    So if i learned a new activity tomorrow, e.g. golf, i dont grow a new ‘golf’ section. My brain just deals with it using the exiting tissue it has. This may well be an area also used for something else. Doesnt mean its related necessarily.

  73. Derovius says:

     Anyone whose taken basic psychology (like yours truly) knows there is no copycat center in the brain; there are parts of ones brain dedicated to learning, sensory, memory, etc. Care to revise your statement, Mr. Thompson?

  74. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Look, if you don’t like it, all we can say is "GTFO"

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  75. Adamas Draconis says:

    I want to know just what part of the brains is supposedly responsible for "risk-taking" and "Copycatting" to start with and just how such behavior is supposedly linked to video-games.

    And Thompson.:Put up or shut up!.

     Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  76. DeepThorn says:

    CIA has stats about it too.  It was about violent crimes at different age groups, and how it dropped most in the younger age groups, but it was a drop across all age groups over the years.  I looked at the release of the first GTA, and it matches up to the same year the violent crimes started to drop.  Not saying they are directly related, but that it is not causing more.


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  77. A-wel Cruiz says:

    Things were different then. Jack now has no power other than to annoy us. All he can do now is troll this site and get off on people reacting to him. He’s nothing but a bully now, and no longer deserving of our attention.

    And arguing his point never works. We are incapiable of changing his mind. So just ignore the sad, lonely loser, and let him fade into obscurity where he belongs.

     

    *Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON’T FEED THE TROLL!*

  78. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Shut up.

    Do you remember what Hal Halpin said in response to Doug Lowenstein’s letter after Thompson’s disbarment? He said that he wish he had done something sooner than let JT have the only voice at the podium for so long.

    If we don’t retaliate and smush this insect of a person into the ground every so often, people without common sense and a critically thinking mind will listen to him and become his little army of sheeple. They will push and shove and bleat everyone’s ears off until that which we gamers hold so dear are ripped from our hands.

    So no, A-wel Cruiz, I will not feed the troll because I don’t feed the troll. I whack its head with a club, telling it to shut up whenever it rears its ugly head to spout its hate.

    Remember this quote: "For evil to win, good men need only do nothing."

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  79. Erik says:

    Yes.  Then why has juvenile crime dropped in the years since GTA has been released according to the FBI.  You have no idea just how vast the gaming population is.  Those you claim killed due to games, such as in Columbine, are statistically irrelevant compared to the tax paying, law abiding majority who has not had anything more serious than a parking ticket.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  80. NovaBlack says:

    ”These are the same bran scan studies that show video games are processed in this risk-taking, copycatting part of a teen’s brain. ”

     

    …and?

    just like you fail to understand correlation and causation, you fail here too.

    Even taking what you say at face value, just because the same part of the brain were used, it means only that, its the same part of the brain. Doesnt mean anything more on its own.

     

     

     

  81. A-wel Cruiz says:

    See my sig. PLEASE!

     

    *Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON’T FEED THE TROLL!*

  82. DeepThorn says:

    First, where is a link to said study, especially since they are all published online as well as offline now, and what are the main 5 main things that support your side of this little debate, more if you want to list more. (List form most prefered…)

    Jack, did you ever have neuroimaging done? (I thick even you would think it was kinda cool.)


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  83. Erik says:

    Is this like your nonexistant rash of slingshot injuries that were supposed to follow Bully’s release?  Oh yeah that never happened.  I recall you also saying you were going to run for the seat of the judge in that case.  That never happened either.  Are you noticing a pattern here?

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  84. nighstalker160 says:

    I did google it.  Violent crime (including Grand Theft Auto charges) are down substantially.  That’s according to the FBI and the DOJ.  But they’re in on the conspiracy right?

    As soon as I finish law school I am so responding to every post of yours with

    "I’m a lawyer and you’re not"

    Oh that’s gonna feel good.

  85. hellfire7885 says:

    I already know I don’t need to.

    If you were so confident, then you would have posted links to more incidences. Since you have neglected to do so, I know you’re lying, again, then again that’s no surprise.


  86. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Please don’t just post your sig. And doing nothing is worse that reacting. It’s like sitting back and watching a drunk and abusive father tell you how stupid you are: it gives us (or at least me) the same damned feeling.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  87. NovaBlack says:

    wow. because if its on google it must be true! 

    So, is google before or after wikipedia for you when it comes to quality reference sources?

     

    geez. If i referenced something in a paper from ‘google’ id get failed on the spot. There is a reason for that DisbarredGuy. Learn it.

     

  88. finaleve says:

    That, and Blue and Red shells make you wanna go faster…much faster.

    …oh wait…blue and red…aren’t they the same colors as the flashing lights of a police car?

  89. Monte says:

     Yeah, and Mario kart taught me how important it is to avoid banana peels and turtle shells… though grant it, i haven’t quite gotten the hang on of snaking yet

  90. Father Time says:

    What the hell? Free money is free money. So what if it’s essentially a $25 billion gift card for better technology that will still give them some kind of benefit.  If this were truly a capitalist society they wouldn’t get a single damn penny (and that includes subisidies and helpful tariffs) so they should be grateful (of course to be fair a truly capitalist society would have no MPG requirements and possibly laxer safety requirements as well).

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  91. DeepThorn says:

    I think the government should just wipe out their entire upper management, and put people like me in charge of it.  I would use the money to make new technology any day.  I think there is a long way those car manufactures could go if the people running the show were not so stupid.

    (Like me as in want to go for new technology, not as in actually me, because I would need to know more about business.)


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  92. Derovius says:

     The big 3 seriously need to just fall over and die already, you can only hold a companies hand so long before you just let them fall. Its the natural way of a capitialist economy damn it.

  93. DeepThorn says:

    Agreed, but the car manufactures get pissy because they think it will hurt their car sales…  How shallow and unthought out do they think their consumers are?  Oh wait, thats right…

    PS – The $700 billion bailout gives $25 billion to the car companies, but requires them to invest it in ways that will progress the technology of American cars, but they refuse to take it because they want to use the money however they want, just like AIG did pretty much. (Lets go on vacation for a half a billion, woo hoo!)


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  94. Erik says:

    Really what I want to see in at least one game is a more realistic vehicle damage system.  I roll my eyes as a series of taps will result in a car bursting into flames in GTA.  As I’ve actually driven a real car I don’t bring my experience of games behind the wheel.  Quite the opposite.  I bring the real life experience to the games and nitpick at the game.  I don’t see why they think that the river only flows in the other direction.

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  95. Adamas Draconis says:

    awww. And here I am calling the IRS dicks and the DoD idiots. You think they’ll get me?

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  96. jadedcritic says:

    No, No, they’re absolutely right.  Driving games have impacted my style.  I’ve literally piled ferrari’s into concrete banners at 60 mph in driving games, and having seen what can happen; I have absolutely no desire to reproduce the experience.

    Anybody dumb enough to not understand that there are basically 4 things in this life that you do not want to purposely antagonize, gets what they deserve.  Accidents happen, sure, people make mistakes, sure, but when certain agents/agencies are unhappy, nothing good can come of it.  1) the wife, 2) the cops, 3) the IRS, 4) DoD. 

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  97. Derovius says:

     Except in real life its the cops that come to a pedestrian related collision first, which makes things awkward.

     "Sir, why did you strike this old woman with your car?"

     "I wanted to steal the ambulance when it came to pick her up…"

     <awkward silence>

  98. nighstalker160 says:

    Well this is obviously true right?

    We’ve obviously seen a rash of youth Grand Theft Auto charges.  And I always go careening down the streets at 100mph weaving through traffic, running red lights, driving into oncoming traffic.  Not to mention deliberately smashing into cop cars to see how many I can get to chase me at once (i had a nice little parade going once).

    Not to mention hitting pedestrians and then jacking the ambulance after it comes to get them.

  99. michelleobamarama says:

    No, in your father’s case it was a genetic lack of intelligence, which he obviously passed on to this son.  Jack Thompson 

  100. Fleetfoot says:

    I went to high school in the suburbs and hung with a mostly older crowd. I heard a lot of stories from bored teenagers about getting stoned and/or drunk and running from the cops. The popular video games at the time were things like Galaga and Joust. If those games had any effect, it was that when you were playing them you were in the local pizza parlour drinking pepsi and not at a friends house drinking alcohol or doing drugs or driving around like an idiot. Video games were by far the least destructive thing that we actually enjoyed doing.

    From what I am able to observe that hasn’t changed much. The games have just gotten more realistic (Well… that and they’ve moved to the console so that you can be at your friends house drinking at the same time 😉

    What I see today is that teens are being encouraged not to play video games, because of the perception it is harmful even though it is one of the few activities that distracts them from doing actual harm to themselves and others. The old standby activities are still there – drinking, drugs, unprotected sex, vandalism, reckless/impaired driving. The biggest difference is that now when they get caught they know that they can just blame it on the games.

    This isn’t really a new thing. Those of you who were around in the 80s might remember all the fuss about Dungeons and Dragons which was ostensibly the same.

     

     

  101. Flamespeak says:

    I remember my father and uncles talking about doing that when they were teenagers. Said they were bored to tears and it gave them and the cops something to do. This was when muscle cars were around, with the huge back tires and what-not.

    Must have been video games back then too.

  102. michelleobamarama says:

    Based upon brain scan studies referenced in a State Farm ad about teen driving, done by the National Institutes for Health and  cited by Justice Kennedy in Roper v. Simmons, which, in March 2005, struck down the juvenile death penalty.  These are the same bran scan studies that show video games are processed in this risk-taking, copycatting part of a teen’s brain.  Do you have any more stupid questions, Erik?  Jack Thompson

  103. Erik says:

    ""Video games can have a negative impact on young drivers because it increases their complacency and their indulgence in risk-taking behaviour."

    Based on what?

     

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  104. michelleobamarama says:

    Ragnaar, were you born retarded, or did GTA make you retarded?  We need to find out.  Jack Thompson

  105. Ragnaar says:

    "They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it’s a game. It’s a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases."

    I notice in this particular quote that it’s not neccessarily a video game, just a game.  I don’t doubt that in their minds, the kids think it’s a game.  I do doubt that they think it’s acting out a video game.  Remember that all sorts of people come up with their own adrenaline fueled events and call them games… no matter the age range, and this has been going on since before video games were so prevalent.

    For a new scapegoat, might I suggest the kid moving a barrel hoop with a stick while running beside it from hundreds of years ago?  Seriously, the hoop could hit someone, and the stick could put an eye out.  And 10:1 that the kid makes a break for it.

  106. mogbert says:

    Does that mean he outranks Sgt. Doug "Misguided" Safioles?

    Kids have been doing this since there were horses. Kids ALWAYS have felt invincible. This is not new.

  107. Matthew says:

    They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it’s a game. It’s a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases.

    I do that too. In games. Why don’t I do it in real life if I enjoy it so much on the tellytron? Social responsibility and fear for my own safety. In games, we behave irresponsibly because ultimately we have no reason to be held responsible. Most of the time we can get away with anything just by quitting when it all goes pear-shaped. If playing too many games makes you forget that in real life, then 1) that’s your own damn fault, and 2) it doesn’t matter what the game was that caused you to think like that.

  108. ConnorM5 says:

    Damn. It. More of them thar vidja-games makin’ kids do stupid stuffs.

    I guess they forgot the ‘Less Wanted Stars’ cheat.

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