Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

December 8, 2008 -

Last week, GamePolitics reported that a soon-to-be-released drug dealing game for the iPhone had been renamed in an apparent effort to win App Store approval. Drug Lords, developed by a-steroids, had its name changed to the less offensive Underworld.

Despite new title, the mother of a British heroin user wants the game banned, according to UK tabloid the Daily Star. Thelma Packard's daughter Amy has been in a coma for seven years after dabbling with heroin as a 17-year-old. Mrs. Packard told the newspaper:

My daughter’s life has been ruined by drugs. If this game is allowed to come out, impressionable kids will play it and Amy’s mistake will be repeated over and over again. Youngsters like Amy are exactly the people who download and play games like this on their mobiles.

 

I just want to help other families avoid the nightmare that’s wrecked mine.


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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game ...

I agree with her! these type of games only make drugs seem cool and we're wondering why so many of our friends end up in an Addiction Treatment Center.  I hate violent games also where you are supposed to just kill people. I am sorry that i have to say that but i find these games really stupid! You don't even need to use your brain when you play them. Than what's the purpose of these type of games?

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Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

I kinda feel sorry for her :( . 

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

How many kids do you think run around with frickin' iPhones?! Bah... I'm guessing I'm not from the same neihborhood as they.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

All the "game" is is a weak business sim. Let's ban AeroBiz because of the 9/11 terror attacks while we're at it!

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

As someone who has been in a car accident, I think we should ban all street racing games!

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

I'm all for freedom of speech and allowing game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from the previous article on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

You've got to be kidding me.

Are you actually saying that drug dealers are going to use this video game to move real-life drugs? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Darwinism is a b@tch ain't it.  Kinda hard to blame an addict's decision on a game that wasn't released 7 years ago.  Her stupidity offends me and I demand she is removed from the gene pool.

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Just what this world needs, more Liz Wooleys.

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Does this make her a heroin heroine?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Is anyone really surprised why a mother of an addict is pointing fingers at anything that could explain why people could be addicted?

If you can lay the blame at something elses feet, you can believe that your wonderful daughter isn't a junkie because she chose to be or because something that happened to her, or *shock horror* perhaps because of something you did as a parent...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

So many arguements, but I want to make only one...

This game, if I recall correctly, isn't really new. I remmeber reading about a game you uploaded to your graphing calculator, in which you did drug dealing and whatnot. Quite frankly, if the game is limited to people with iPhones (as far as I know of), why would a kid have it? And teenagers get enough talks about drugs. So many, in fact, that they really stop caring (I was one of them, but I don't do drugs... other than caffine).

Seriously, this sort of media press RAISES awareness of drugs, and can even make people accept it as a social norm, which really isn't what they want...

In any case, it can teach people a lot about math. If you buy 4 kilos for $150 each, and sell each half kilo for $249, how much profit will you make? It also teaches the basics of business, assuming you have to compete with other people around you... Supply and demand, plus pricing.

It's more education crammed into the phone than it used to have. It's a technological miracle!

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

We need the bad stuff to appreciate the good stuff. It's variation that makes life worth living, and sometimes you end up on the wrong side of life. But hey that's life and if you don't like it then you can allways gtfo, unless you are in a prison, mental institute or if you'r some kind of warprisoner being tortured for information (purely theoretical, you wouldn't be able to read this if you were in fact mentioned above).

Oh and side note, if people are so weakminded that they actually start doing drugs because of a videogame they deserve to od, i can understand peer pressure is tough but a videogame? I mean come on? If people die by that then it is indeed the natural selection of which Deep Thorn wrote and should not be disturbed no matter what.

RTS gamer

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

" If this game is allowed to come out, impressionable kids will play it and Amy’s mistake will be repeated over and over again."

Refresh my memory you sell drugs in the game not use them correct? And according to the demo you also have to avoid the police.

But if this game encourages people to deal drugs then Monopoly must also encourage people to be real estate tycoons.

Or that Clue trivializes murder (I actually think it kind of does if you play it all the time but I have no presentable evidence to back it up, and I don't think that it means you should avoid the game).

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Oh hell, and I thought the lure of using drugs was from people telling you how good it was to get high, especially the dealer.

Man, oh man how did I have it wrong all this years?!?

Also, I like how she wants a game about drug dealing banned when her daughter happened to use something that was also banned.  I wonder what the correlation could be?  Hmm...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

im ofended by lawyers ban them!

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

It's already been said, but ... unless this woman can prove that using the iPhone app in question caused her daughter to become interested in drugs, abuse them, and then fall into a coma, she really doesn't have any sort of authority here. I mean, I can understand that she's angry and heartsick at what happened to her daughter, but you can't use that as an excuse to attack unrelated things. Or, at least, you can't do that and remain stable - how many movies are there which feature drug use? How many TV shows? How many standup comedy routines, comic books, novels, etc.? Our culture is shot through (no pun intended) with references to drugs. Why bother focusing your energy on a game, when: a) it isn't the culprit; and b) it would have no effect on actual heroin use at all to ban the game?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

"My daughter’s life has been ruined by drugs"

I hate to be the realistic one here but your daughter ruined her own life by taking the drug : /

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

"Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned"

'Want' all you want.

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Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Wait... is this the same game as that freeware one that is really really old?

 

It came out in 1984, the game is older then the child!

 

edit or as old as, mis read the story a bit, 17+7 year coma, not 17 and in a coma for 7 years.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

This (and many other suggestions for banning something) is a direct case of taking Murphy's Law too seriously. Murphy's Law as it applies to social and political issues is more counter-productive than anything. It should be used to solve technical, practical problems and not social ones (like our good friend the Engineer from TF2). That's what Murphy's Law is originally intended for.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

What the hell are "Impressionable kids" doing with an iphone? In the UK the pay-and-go version is £350 (according to the O2 site, which is "low/medium-end laptop" money) and the contract version's probably being paid for by the parents anyway (who will, likewise, be the ones paying for App store purchases!)

 

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

"Impressionable kids" =  everybody under 17 years old...

 

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Okay, I was a ten year old with ADD seven years ago, but I'm fairly sure that iphone wasn't around then...nearly positive.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Banning it will be really effective too because there aren't any other games about dealing drugs or any thing... http://www.google.com/search?q=dopewars

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Ya thats a resonable jump in logic. "Hey this game is sweet, lets go shoot up".

 

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Oh for the love of Pete... I find it very hard to have a lot of sympathy for someone who is so sheepishly influenced by a text based game. If anything, real addicts would be insulted if someone came to an NA meeting and said "I started doing drugs because of a game on my cell phone".

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

I disagree about kids should not have cellphones. My kid is 12 and he has his own phone for many reasons. #1 is so momma bear and keep in touch with him when he goes out with his friends. Cellphones are not that expensive anymore and the other thing is pay phones are getting harder and harder to find so thats not a good solution. Also thats how his biological father keeps in touch with him, that way i don't have to talk to that jackass :P so it saves me a ton of headache.

Also being working parents on both ends, the cell phone helps us to give him more freedom to do things like sports and after-school activities and still keep tabs on him.

So cell phones for kids = good although I agree the iPhone would be overkill for a 12 year old :)  Honestly I dont see a ton of teens using iphones, it too expensive a product for mainstream so this lady is really focusing on the wrong target.

EDIT: oops this was supposed to be a reply to Baruch_S.  i keep screwing replies *shrug*

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Because it´s easier to blame fiction than face the real issues on the real world. That´s why.

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Wow, this is brilliant. I got hit by a truck once, does that mean I can ask the government to ban automobiles?

I'd also like to know what ANY "youngster" is doing with an iPhone. Kids below the age of 15 shouldn't have a cellphone, and, despite what many teenagers may say, they do not need cellphones either; they're just very convenient items to have. As a parent, you're probably paying for your kid's phone. You could just not buy them an iPhone in the first place; they probably don't need all the extra features. And then there's the fact that this woman's daughter was 17 years old. She was old enough to know what heroine was and what it did; she used it anyway. And, since her daughter got addicted long before the era of iPhone games, I think this woman should be fighting whatever got her daughter to start drugs in the first place instead of making a fuss about an unconnected game.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

i agree, no kid should have a cell phone, not one like the Iphone anyways.

maybe some cheapo LG after the age of 13 or so, but an Iphone? a cell phone at all in most cases is still retarded for anyone under the teen level when the kid should still be on a short leash for crying out loud.

 

as for the whole "pop culture" ... its also pop culture to have little 9 and 10 year olds dressed like little street whores and wearing makeup.

 

i'm glad the bratz dolls are being pulled after the season, at least barbie has a JOB or two and doesn't dress like a child prostitute. one with kids no less.... either that or soemone else is to explain for them bratz babies...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Yeah, what the fuck is up with Bratz Babies?  That is just wrong on Sooo many levels

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

The way I see it, there are two reasons to get a teen/kid cellphone. A) the teen is involved in a bunch of extracurricular activities and needs to be able to get ahold of a parent for rides or B) the teen has a license and needs to be able to call mom and dad when/if he puts his car in a ditch or runs over an old lady.

These teens don't need to be able to check their friends' Facebook statuses every 30 seconds or text OMG LOL 5 billion times a day. It actually hurts them later on when they get into the workforce because they're so used to texting 24/7 that they do it at work and get fired. That is assuming, of course, that they can put the phone away long enough in school to get a diploma...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

What are you 50? Cellphones are a big pop-culture item that is like the Ipod. You don't NEED to have a cellphone in order to have one these days. This might sound like a mid 90's brooklen kid, but whatever. In fact I will go all the way. "Your too old to understand. Pops! Cellphones are HOT and are the shizzle!" yea...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Meh, I'm 19. I didn't get a cellphone until I was 16, and I very seldom use the thing now that I have it. Heck, the only reason I got a cellphone period was because my mom wanted me to be able to call her if I ever put my car in the ditch, and it's now a cheap way to talk to my parents from college.

Of course, nowadays ever kid has to be able to text her BFF 4evr at all hours in all location. Nobody can be seperated from the LOLs and OMGs for more than 60 seconds; the human body can't withstand that sort of detachment. Who knows how our parents survived in the days of vinyl records and phones with cords that you couldn't take absolutely everywhere. It must have been horrible.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

My brother was killed by a refrigirator, so this Maytag fridge offends me and I want it banned!

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

 How do you get killed by a fridge? Did it fall on him?

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Most refrigerator deaths involve a child climbing into one, being unable to get out, and suffocating.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Haven't happened on a large scale for a very long time.  Most refridgerators don't lock anymore, thus there's no real danger in getting into one (so long as it's not an old school one that locks).  Still, not quite sure why you'd want to climb into a fridge anyways...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Maybe the fridge contains the entrance to Narnia?

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

 Sounds like natural selection to me.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

Refigerator related deaths. Better watch out for those... their still a threat...

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

 They should charge the mother with child endangerment. Its not hard to keep your fucking children out of trouble, all it takes is a little interest.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

You apparently don't have children, or at least teenagers. At about around 16 maybe sooner, maybe later, a teenager hits this one critical stage "Mom and Dad don't know anything. They just wanna ruin my fun." You could military drill your values into your child from a young age and when they're sitting their with their friends they won't go "Nah mommy told me not to..." They're gonna go "hmmm do I really wanna try this..." and either they'll have a strong will and say "nah thanks, seen what can happen." or weak willed and go "Okay!" but the power of their will is not something you can create, it develops on it's own and will be selective in it's nature.

 

My parents had major interest in my life, to the point I felt like I was under 24/7 survelance and was yelled at for any little decission I made that they decided they wouldn't make in their life. My Cellphone wasn't a I'll check up on you kinda thing it was a literal electronic leash which came in tones of "come home now." "Where are you?" "Why are you there?" and "I don't feel like it." When they'd want to decide where I'd be and go, guess what under such an insane interest in my life, I stopped listening completely and when they'd say "I don't want you there." I'd stay because I felt I was good and old enough to decide what I did with my time. Admittedly though, that stuff wasn't why I'd ended up in the drug scene for a year. That was caused by major emotional destruction, after the man I loved was killed in an explosion at the local flare factory and my 'well meaning' friends tried to make me smile more >_>

 

Rambling, anyways the point is once they hit teenage years, keeping your kids outta trouble is about a thousand times harder because we unfortunately demand our children think for themselves.

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

 We were all 16, but not all of us have put ourselves into heroin induced comas. This means one a few things:

 1. This kid is fucking stupid.

 2. The parent(s) (I'm thinking singular) did teach their children to make objective decisions.

 3. The kid was tied up Japanese bondage style by space aliens and probed anally with a heroin steralized appliance while George Lucas and Stephen Spielburg sat in the shadows and jotted down notes for the next Indiana Jones movie.

 Long story short, stupid people are stupid.

 

Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

 3. The kid was tied up Japanese bondage style by space aliens and probed anally with a heroin steralized appliance while George Lucas and Stephen Spielburg sat in the shadows and jotted down notes for the next Indiana Jones movie.

 

OMG!!! I thought I was the only one!!!

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Re: Heroin Victim's Mom Wants iPhone Drug Dealing Game Banned

This wasn't a child. It was a young adult who made a decision on their own to do heroin.  Awful? Yes. Parents fault? Not really unless you think not locking up your teenagers in a cage is child endangerment.

 
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