PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Animal rights organization PETA has named Xbox 360 role-playing adventure Fable 2 its Most Animal-Friendly Video Game of 2008.

In announcing its 6th annual Proggy Awards, PETA recognized "companies, people, and products for innovative and animal-friendly achievements." Of Fable 2, the activist group gushed:

Fable 2 is a vegetarian’s dream come true. Why? In this virtual fight between good and evil, characters powered by tofu are just as powerful as their meat-eating counterparts—and are more fit and attractive to boot.

 

Featuring a strong pro-vegetarian theme, eating a plant-based diet helps you rack up "purity" points, whereas eating meat makes your character fat and evil. A fun and innovative game, it’s also an effective tool that teaches gamers the real-life benefits of a vegetarian diet.

UPDATE: Edge points out that players can kick chickens and shoot bunnies in the game, which is just the kind of behavior that one might think would anger a group like PETA.

Dan Shannon, a representative for the animal rights group, told Edge:

I’ll be honest, it’s not our favorite part of the game. But what we like about Fable II and why we gave it the award is because the game presents you with choices, and then you see the repercussions of what those choices are. This is what the awards are based on, and that’s what PETA’s philosophy is—for people to understand how their choices affect the real world.

It’s not like people eat meat to score evil points, but you are supporting an industry that is cruel to animals. People need to be aware that their choices affect the world. We like that message in Fable II.

[The Chicken-Kicking] is done in a light-hearted manner. I don’t think anyone’s going to go out and start kicking chickens in their yard because of this game. Just like real life, you can go kick chickens if you want to, but we don’t think most people get off on that.

GP: Could just be that PETA, which has clearly recognized that talking about games is a good way to create buzz, didn’t do its homework on Fable 2?

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  1. 0
    thesandwich234 says:

    My only comment to PETA would be this, "Well PETA, it’s glad you like video games, but it’s not like we really gave a shit about your opinion in the first place."

  2. 0
    Adamas Draconis says:

    We all could Ashkihyena. But lets not right now.

     

    And Vash, as for PETA. Considering their record in recent years, both in word and deed, I think having my Insta-Hammer (I like that term, thanks Vash) set for them is perfectly acceptible.

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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    Adamas Draconis says:

    "weak bastardization"? Unless i’m mistaken, didn’t they show that most "domestic" (not quite the right expression since the Egyptian Wildcat [which is still, last I heard anyway, a healthy species] which is the "root" of the housecat, started the relationship with humanity because THATS WHERE THEIR PREY (rats) WAS!) cats were geneticly much closer to their progenitor species then most "Domesticated" animals? Although Dogs aren’t really far behind in that scale.

    Excuse me, I feel the need to hunt the Loudmouth Idiot, a species that seems to be breeding at a geometric rate.   

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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    Ashkihyena says:

    Sounds like a typical PETA defender, never minding that they support the likes of ALF and such who are terrorist, and then theres the whole pets are slaves and such, and the whole "holocost on your plate"

    Yeah, I could go on and on about PETA.

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    Ashkihyena says:

    Its ironic, they miss the achivment you get for kicking the chicken and killing the rabbit, heh.

    Edit – Never mind, they didn’t miss the chicken kicking part, but I guess they missed the rabbit killing part since the PETA spokesperson didn’t bring that up.

  6. 0
    Tieowbeijas says:

    Go go Godwin!

     

    Hitler was also a painter, should we shun Da Vinci now? For the record, Churchill was also a painter.

    Hitler was a non-smoker who pushed hard to get the Germans to stop smoking, should everyone smoke just so that they are as dissimilar to Hitler as possible?

    Ghandi was a vegetarian.

    I don’t really side with PETA, but the "Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarians are evil" argument is pretty damned ignorant.

  7. 0
    Wonderful Lizard of Oz says:

    As I say-

    It’ll be a sad day when there’s a group of people who only eat minerals, citing that vegetarians are "mean to plants".

    It’ll be a sadder day when they’re accused of cruelty to rocks.

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    Meggie says:

    They held a contest to give away a Will with Twilight Princess at launch because "Link rescues caged monkies" in the game, which makes it animal friendly. Of course you ride a horse, go fishing, and throw chickens into the water (at least I do…). PETA just wants to get gamers attention, they aren’t used to people actually paying attention to what they have to say and are trying to drum up as many "game" connections as possible.

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    Vash-HT says:

    I thought this was a pretty rational response from PETA actually, I’m surprised so many people are still going off on them. Then again I wonder how many people actually read and thought about it instead of going into an instabash mdoe on PETA. Oh yeah before anyone says it I’m not a PETA member, and I eat quite a bit of meat.

    They actually realize that the choices in the game are choices and applauded the game for it. They also didn’t go off an unrealistic violence (ie. chicken kicking) and said people wouldn’t do that in real life jsut because its in a game. I swear I thought people would be happy to hear a group actually talk seriously about games instead of jsut bashing them but isntead people just went into bashing mode right away… it’s actually pretty sad.

  10. 0
    Tieowbeijas says:

    Within the context of the game, eating meat, apart from the crunchy chicks which do actually give you evil points since it’s alive when you eat it, gives you corruption points. Corruption points are generally awarded for performing acts of indulgence or greed, such as gambling, booze drinking or increasing the prices of your owned real estate and stores. Nothing inattely evil about those, though of course some would disagree based on their own moral standards.

    As for their "pets = slaves" equation, if our cats were sentient, they’d probably be pretty damned happy. They get all the food they can eat, all the belly rubs they want and a little cat nip now and then to trip balls (one of them starts rubbing the floor with his head).

  11. 0
    Darmoth says:

    Bwahahaha! I should probably be grossed out. But I can’t quite stop laughing at that image… The mating habits of the praying mantis, with Barry White playing in the background. (Yeah, I know. Not ‘porno music’ per say.)

     

  12. 0
    Baruch_S says:

    You’re thinking way too deeply into this, although the scenario is amusing.

    Domesticated animals can’t survive in the wild. Most of them have come to rely heavily on humans to provide food, shelter, and protection from predators. The majority of domesticated animals would get eaten, starve, or be hit by cars within a week of being "freed."

    PETA also fails to realize how good domestice animals have it. Farm animals get constant food, shelter from the elements, and protection from predators in return for providing some sort of product. If/when they get slaughtered, it’s in a much quicker manner than they’d die if they were caught and eaten by predators. Pets have it even better. They get food, shelter, and protection for next to nothing. All they have to do is act like they like you (if it’s an animal that shows affection), and they get a nice place to sleep, consistent food, and medical care.

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    Baruch_S says:

    To my knowledge, there isn’t a special term for humans that eat solely meat. Of course, I doubt you’d find many people who eat only meat and do so for a moral/ethical reason. I’m sure you can find a few people who eat only meat, but they likely aren’t numerous enough or pretentious enough to think they need a special term to set themselves apart.

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    Father Time says:

    I’ve seen meat lovers proclaiming themselves carnivores with pride so why not? Vegetarian vs. carnivore sounds good. The vegetarian all ready denotes a human.

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    Liz Surette says:

    Damn, now I don’t like this game anymore. Except for kicking chickens, shooting bunnies, killing balverines, eating crunchy chicks, shooting birds, eating meat, killing the produce vendors, and of course laying waste to those eco-friendly Oakfieldians. 

    http://www.gameslaw.net

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    Derovius says:

     Carnivore or Vegetarian? I think not, try again. Vegetarian is exclusively humanistic in its use, you would never say a cow is a vegetarian; you’d say it is a herbivore. And unless we are applying morality to animals now, lets steer clear of the absolutes.

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    Skyler says:

    Oh wow. It must have been.

    “When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities” ~ David Hume

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    Father Time says:

    do we even have a word for someone eating nothing but meat

    Carnivore

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    gamegod25 says:

    Eating meat doen’t make you fat or evil, it makes you a carnivore/omnivore. Eating other creatures is a part or nature and humans are no different. And they can call it slavery/prison all they want but I’m willing to bet that most of those "slaves" get better treatment then a lot of people.

    I love animals too, I just love to eat them more ^^

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    MaskedPixelante says:

    Yes, it’s the insect killing that makes them hypocrites… It’s not the fact that they kill animals they rescue, or oppose animal developed medicine while using animal developed medicine to live that makes them hypocrites, no, it’s the killing insects.

    I keed, I keed.

    —You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

  21. 0
    Derovius says:

     Its hard to relate to a species that is so fundamentally alien. Ever seen insects mate? Doesn’t go well to porno music at all, thank you. There is something wrong with that.

  22. 0
    Derovius says:

    "Anyways, that games has a TON of beetle-killing as well. The last time I checked, beetles are animals too. If anything, the most animal-friendly game is GTA. At least in that came you don’t kill any animals.  "

     Freudian slip?

  23. 0
    Meohfumado says:

    Actually, the biggest thing PETA would accomplish if their agenda was fully enacted: The near extinction of most domesticated animals.

    Think about it.  Can’t use farms for cows and chickens…so those farms get shut-down and converted to other uses.  Cows and chickens can’t pay rent….so they get kicked off the land.  Where are they going to go?  No land to occupy, no food for them to eat, they’ll all die off.  As the only reason they had lives to begin with, was because human beings found a use for them.

    So millions and millions of animals would never know life at all, simply because PETA objects to the quality of life they would have received.

     

    Bravo PETA…bravo!

     

    "You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

  24. 0
    Meohfumado says:

    Once again, PETA proves their ideological and biological ignorance.

    "You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

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    barra_sadei says:

    Well, PETA must house plenty of dogs and kittens (even of the aquatic kind), since they have an industrial-sized freezer in their HQ. Penn & Teller did a special on them in their show, Penn & Teller’s Bullshit!, and listed off the two reasons for having a walk-in freezer: meat storage and corpse storage.

    Ironically (and assuming I remember correctly), PETA uthinizes hundreds upon hundreds of animals a year, purly on the basis of the animals being domesticated.

    Remember: PETA wants to give animals RIGHTS. Spain gave monkies some rights, but PETA wants animals to be treated as equals…

    So, if PETA were to take over America…:
    Animals would be "set free" from their "prisons," and be classified as citizens.
    The animals, being full citizens, would be an immediate burdon on society.
    Animals would need to find jobs, in order to pay for basic services (in which case a cow might sell its milk, or a horse might find a manual labor job, such as pulling a plow). Such services would require these animals to be paid.
    Nothing is free, and people generally don’t reward their workers entirely in food. Animals would be paid money.
    Animals would, over time, cause inflation, since they have no means, or use, for money, nor can they actually spend money on their own free will.
    Animals without jobs would be given welfare checks, further burdoning society, as well as draining money out of the government’s pockets.

    Now, if we look at a more realistic scenario, all animals released and given citizenship status would have to be arrested on charges of "Public Nudity" or "Indecent Exposure." If animal citizens walking around naked isn’t enough, then having sexual intercourse in public, as well as urinating/deficating in public, would certainly be enough, as there are also sanitary standards that need to be upheld. So, after all the work of letting these animals become citizens, we need to put them in a prison of some sort… Such as, for example, the farm that the cow came from.

    I could get more complex (animals on trial, animals and the death sentance, animal soldiers), but I won’t. It’s be pointless. I just wanted to prove that PETA is run by idiots, and also tends to be supported by people who are animal lovers in terms of loving to have pets (yeah, some people don’t do their research).

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    GTCv Deimos says:

    As an xbox 360 fanboy, let me be the first to say, CURSE YOU, YOU LUCKY BASTARDS!!! CURSE YOU FOR BEING SPARED THE IDIOCY THAT IS FABLE II AND PETA!!!

  27. 0
    Erik says:

    Well it doesn’t completely show the "benefits" of a vegetarian diet.  If it did your character wouldn’t be as effective in the more magic part of the game.  You know brain shrinkage and all. 

    Furthermore PETA always rails on how their members are so much healthier than we omnivores.  And yet so many vegans look like they just got out of a year long stint in a concentration camp.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

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    Skyler says:

    You mean…. herbivores and carnivores?

    Anyways, that games has a TON of beetle-killing as well. The last time I checked, beetles are animals too. If anything, the most animal-friendly game is GTA. At least in that came you don’t kill any animals. 

    “When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities” ~ David Hume

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    Derovius says:

     Eating a pure vegetarian diet is as bad as eating a pure meat-based diet (do we even have a word for someone eating nothing but meat? If someones says awesome, you’re getting a smack.).

     Humans are omnivores for a reason; variety gives us all the nutriets required to be healthy.

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    NovaBlack says:

    what?

     

    are they stupid?

    you do realise that you can eat ‘crunchy chicks’ in that game. All yellow n feathery n crunchy.

    In fact one of the initiation ceremony things for the evil temple guys is to stand there and crunch baby chicks. um did they miss that bit? 

  31. 0
    Benji says:

    "A fun and innovative game, it’s also an effective tool that teaches gamers the real-life benefits of a vegetarian diet."

    Show me a vegetarian with a halo and a shimmering glow about them and maybe I’ll see your point.

    Also, as I recall eating meat in Fable I (haven’t played the sequel yet) might make you fat but also makes you strong. Ridiculously strong if you ate it in the middle of combat with a nice high multiplier.

    Just sayin’. I’m actually trying to sharply reduce the amount of meat I consume so I’m more sympathetic than most to what they might be saying, but this kind of statement from PETA is more silly than anything.

  32. 0
    Adamas Draconis says:

    I summon the power of PHOTOSHOP! Ok, now to find someone who knows just HOW to use photoshop to make that pic. 

     Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  33. 0
    Kajex says:

    So then by what you mean to say, is that the subjective views of good/evil are inefficient as an example of why a soical stance should change, given solely that the views are based on random situations?

    i.e., if the president wasn’t weak but was instead poison and killed, would be considered bad, if he was truly weak and was murdered, could be considered good because he inhibited progress in a system that would have relied on his efficiency?

    I can see where you’re coming from, if that’s the case. But if you had to make a basis on fact, well… 130,000 years of human subsistance on meat, and we’re still here regardless of the "morality" of it, aren’t we? I’m pretty sure it was nigh on impossible to practice veganism 40 years ago.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Physical strength is not of relevance in something like the home owner’s association, and even if it was, he was not replaced with his killer, he was replaced by the vice president.

  35. 0
    Derovius says:

     Simple counterarguement:

      The previous saidp president was weak, allowing himself to be killed and usurped by his subordinate. Therefore it was good he was replaced, and weak leaders only bring about failure.

     Q.E.D.

  36. 0
    Zevorick says:

    You want a breakdown on the difference then fine, i’ll feed the troll for just one post

    Say you’re a vp of a homeowners association and you REALLY want to be president. You are disconected from the president of the association in every way except your duties. The president of the homeowners association is murdered. He has treated everyone with respect and was loved by his family.

    It’s beneficial to you because you become president of the homeowners assocation with no grieving on your part since you did not know the man outside of your duties.

    It is NOT good because you understand the man had a family and they are grieving for the loss of their father/husband/son. Furthermore, the man did nothing to you except hold the position you wanted.

     

    Thus, a counterexample of something that is beneficial yet not in the least bit good for anybody involved. Oh, and in case you were wondering, yes I repeated "homeowners association" numerous times to keep people from making a hideously stupid jump in logic.

  37. 0
    Derovius says:

     So you’re attempting to differentiate good from beneficial? I’m waiting for a breakdown, if you would.

     Good/Evil are utterly at the discretion of the observer, nothing more. Their use is laughable at best in any situation.

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    JustChris says:

    By definition, a pet IS a companion. Pets are animals you keep for company, or entertainment without any business motives. Lab mice are not pets. Race dogs are not pets (if you consider only their use to make money). But, you cannot have an animal as a companion and not be a pet.

    GameSnooper

  39. 0
    Zero Beat says:

    If you’re a PETA member, they’re companions.

    If you’re not a PETA member, they’re slaves and you’re a worthless dirtbag slave owner.

     

    "That’s not ironic. That’s justice."

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    insanejedi says:

    I can kind of understand why they didin’t talk about the dog, but at the same time, not talking about the dog seems a bit crazy. The dog is less of a pet and more of a friend, and I don’t know where PETA stands on animals being "companions" compared to "pets".

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Isn’t it the other way around, or was that a joke?

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  42. 0
    Shahab says:

    Man, you are such an ass. Every time I read a post by you I think, what an asshole. Of course, you are 100% right in this post, but that changes nothing!

  43. 0
    Austin_Lewis says:

    Which is why all the people in PETA are weightlifters, and the rest of us are the scrawny ones.  Wait, what?  Athletes eat lots of protein found in meat, and love those amino acids?  Huh weird.

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    Father Time says:

    Peta’s crazy but I’ve never seen them call for bans on things that disagree with them. I haven’t seen any of them seriously propose a ban on meat either.

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    hellfire7885 says:

    Yet if the game rewarded you in anyway for eating a balanced diet, meaning eating meat as well, they’d be calling for a ban and to have Lionhead studios shut down and be out for Sir Molyneux’s head.

     

    All this did was give douchebag vegans a superiority complex, as demonstrated here.


  46. 0
    Father Time says:

    They’ve actually done that? If that’s true then that’s despicable.

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    olstar18 says:

    Its peta they only see what they want to see. If they want to see workers at a food processing plant torturing animals they will get video of it even if they have to hire people to get jobs there and make the videos for them.

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    Derovius says:

     I don’t prescribe to their specific flavour of stupid, but the concept of good and evil is utterly subjective.

     Say you have a chick and a cow in a barn, with an apple tree outfront.

     1. You eat the chicken, making the eating of the chicken evil TO THE CHICKEN, but neutral to the cow (Cow sayz, "WTF do I care, its a chicken")

     2. You eat the cow, making the eat of the cow evil TO THE COW, but neutral to the chicken (same as above)

     3. You eat the apples growing on the tree outfront, which is GOOD to the cow and the chicken, because you’re not eating them.

     Ad nausem.

     I do however agree that PETA keyed on the whole "evil" aspect of eating meat, but only because they are simpletons.

  49. 0
    Demontestament says:

    "Featuring a strong pro-vegetarian theme, eating a plant-based diet helps you rack up "purity" points, whereas eating meat makes your character fat and evil. A fun and innovative game, it’s also an effective tool that teaches gamers the real-life benefits of a vegetarian diet."

    I call Bullshit. I eat a ton of meat everyday, yet I am not fat nor evil. Where the fuck are my horns? How many animals do I need to digest before I start growing horns and my eyes begin to glow red? Apparently they didn’t look at the achievements, you get one for kicking the shit out of a chicken and one for killing a bunny.

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    LOL

    It’s kinda funny in a way, if they want to award Fable 2 for promoting vegetanarianism, that is their choice.

    Doesn’t mean I’m going to stop eating meat, mind you. After all, it’s my choice too. 😉

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    HarmlessBunny says:

    Meat makes you fat and evil huh?Too bad PETA morons didn’t attend biology. Humans have enamel on their teeth. Some are very sharp and angular for the very purpose of to eat meat. We are omnivores, not herbivores or carnivores. To be healthy and fit, we must attain a wonderful balance.

    The funny thing is that the "real-life benefits" of that diet will make me less likely to be a warlock or a daemon incarnate? Smooth PETA. You guys have Jack Thompson logic on your side!

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