Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

January 9, 2009 -

Over at Kombo, journo Brad Hilderbrand surveys how gay and lesbian characters are depicted in games and finds those portrayals wanting:

Unfortunately games have fallen back into the rut of stereotype and hyperbole. While there are brief moments in games like Fable II or Metal Gear Solid that treat homosexuality with a careful, thoughtful approach, the game industry seems to be far more comfortable sticking with tired clichés and stereotypes for the sake of not offending, but also not progressing...

 

In a market where Marcus Phoenix stands as the definition of a man and Lara Croft is the essence of what it means to be a woman, there seems to be little inclination to tackle one of society's biggest taboos. While games have the potential to stand at the bleeding edge of social and political commentary, they prefer to play it safe and put sales above message, lagging far behind their contemporaries in television and cinema...

 


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Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

 Go google yourself the birth rates and death rates of several major Western nations. The problem is glaringly obvious. I suggest the CIA World Factbook; at least if the information is wrong, its consistently wrong for all your samples.

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go google yourself the word 'overpopulation'

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Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

"It confuses children if they are told that there are many different ways for someone to be married."

Really?  I doubt that.  I think the grand majority of children are able to grasp such a simple concept.

"If we start confusing straight children into being something they are not, you are further reducing the breeding population."

I might be misinterpreting your meaning here but I don't think refusing to hide the fact that not everyone is heterosexual is going to confuse straight children into being gay.

I've met plenty of stupid people in my time but few so loopy that they could be tricked into misidentifying their sexual orientation.

 

Andrew Eisen

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"Really?  I doubt that.  I think the grand majority of children are able to grasp such a simple concept."

 Along this same illogic thought path, lets start showing children pornographic material to show them how copulation takes place. I'm sure that the grand majority of children are able to grasp such a simple concept.

"I might be misinterpreting your meaning here but I don't think refusing to hide the fact that not everyone is heterosexual is going to confuse straight children into being gay."

 Why not? It confuses gay people into being straight.

"I've met plenty of stupid people in my time but few so loopy that they could be tricked into misidentifying their sexual orientation."

 Which is why there are homosexuals out there who marry women, father children and hide their urges. They are just so loopy, wacky and otherwise unbelievable right? You underestimate the degree of control the social norm and morality has on people.

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"Which is why there are homosexuals out there who marry women, father children and hide their urges. "

kinda like clay aiken :D

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

"Along this same illogic thought path, lets start showing children pornographic material to show them how copulation takes place."

From marriage to porn, eh?  Bit of a jump that.  But, go ahead.  If they're curious about love making and the parent feels the child is ready for it, I don't have a problem.

And yes, most kids can handle porn.  Ever walk in on your parents doing it?  How old were you?  How about the first time you saw porn?  I was eight.  I turned out fine.  So did pretty much everyone else.

"Why not? It confuses gay people into being straight."

I don't believe that.  I think any gay person living a heterosexual life does so, not out of true confusion, but out of fear and shame.  Likely derived from a household and/or societal pressure convincing this person that being homosexual is wrong or immoral.

"Which is why there are homosexuals out there who marry women... They are just so loopy... You underestimate the degree of control the social norm and morality has on people.?"

Not at all.  Just because the people you describe are hiding who they are doesn't mean they don't know who they are.

 

Andrew Eisen

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"From marriage to porn, eh?  Bit of a jump that.  But, go ahead.  If they're curious about love making and the parent feels the child is ready for it, I don't have a problem."

 When did we start talking marriage? If thats the topic at hand, than its completely out of the question. Marriage is the perview of religion, and for all their uselessness, we have no more right to tell them to redefine its definition than they have to tell society to adhere to their morality.

 If people of said religion want to delve into same sex marriage in their place of worship, so be it.

"And yes, most kids can handle porn.  Ever walk in on your parents doing it?  How old were you?  How about the first time you saw porn?  I was eight.  I turned out fine.  So did pretty much everyone else."

 Oh yeah, perfectly fine. You only want to show pornography to children. Thats the shining example of morality right there.

"I don't believe that.  I think any gay person living a heterosexual life does so, not out of true confusion, but out of fear and shame.  Likely derived from a household and/or societal pressure convincing this person that being homosexual is wrong or immoral."

 I don't care what you believe, opinion should have no basis for a dissemination of an idea to the masses. Some people think its alright to pour molten candle wax all over each other while sodomizing farm animals, doesn't mean they should be teaching children about it. If it comes down to household pressure as the cause of this immoral idealogy, who are you to tell people how to raise their children? They have as much right to teach them that homosexuals are dirty, hellish things as they are to teach tolerance.

"Not at all.  Just because the people you describe are hiding who they are doesn't mean they don't know who they are. "

 So you're saying the society has absolutely no effect on a person sexual identity, and yet you want society to take a more active roll recognizing homosexuals as acceptable. If the former is true, why argue the latter. It would be a moot point.

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 I don't care what you believe, opinion should have no basis for a dissemination of an idea to the masses. Some people think its alright to pour molten candle wax all over each other while sodomizing farm animals, doesn't mean they should be teaching children about it. If it comes down to household pressure as the cause of this immoral idealogy, who are you to tell people how to raise their children? They have as much right to teach them that homosexuals are dirty, hellish things as they are to teach tolerance.

 

Of course they ahve the right to teach their children that. But explain to me why one group gets to decide what all of society needs to follow?

Gays never tried to stop christians from going to church. They never asked to have churches forced to recognize gay marriage. They are asking for equal inclusion in the legal aspect of marriage.

Frankly religious marriage is not what it always has been (and if you think it is you need to reread your bible.) Personally Iw ould rather see marriage removed from all legal papers and replaced with "Civil Union". The church can keep the marriage title, but legally no one should be married, just civilly unioned. Then the church can have their term, the law can have equality and everyone will be equal.

 

Asking to have marriage as both a legal and religious term reserved for heterosexuals only is not only wrong it's unchristian.

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

"When did we start talking marriage?"

It confuses children if they are told that there are many different ways for someone to be married.

"Marriage is the perview of religion..."

Not exclusively.

"You only want to show pornography to children."

Not what I said.

"I don't care what you believe, opinion should have no basis for a dissemination of an idea to the masses. Some people think its alright to pour molten candle wax all over each other... They have as much right to teach them that homosexuals are dirty, hellish things as they are to teach tolerance."

Not even remotely related to what I was talking about.

"So you're saying the society has absolutely no effect on a person sexual identity, and yet you want society to take a more active roll recognizing homosexuals as acceptable."

Also not what I said.

 

Andrew Eisen

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They have as much right to teach them that homosexuals are dirty, hellish things as they are to teach tolerance.

I think I heard the same argument about black people fifty years ago.

Out of interest how old are you?

 

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

 And people still hate black people; no one will change their opinions because society tells them to, they either do it themselves or hate quietly. Such is how the law works, you be as big a bigot as you want so long as you don't infringe on their safety.

 And no, I'm not interested in you either State. I know I'm sexy and all that, but this has to stop.

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

 Wait... go back. Why do you have gay friends?

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

Well Dumbledore from all those Harry P games was apparently gay atleast according to the book author so does that count?

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No, because he wasn't actually gay. Rowling just said that for publicity and to appear to appear more gay freindly. If she had any balls, she would have had him announce it in the book.

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"Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone: Harry Potter Movie Quotes:


Dumbledore: I was unfortunate enough in my youth to come across a vomit-flavored one, and since then I have rather lost my liking for them. But, I think I could be safe with a nice toffee. (eats it)


Dumbledore: ...Hmm, alas, earwax

Dumbledore: Oh, did I ever tell you how I adore buggering little boys in the arse?"

 Like that?

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That.... was brilliant.

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Who can really know how many game characters are gay?  Most video game characters don't exactly disclose their sexual orientation.

For example, any or all of the Left 4 Dead characters could be gay.  Just because they don't stop for a gay pride parade in the middle of the game doesn't mean they aren't.  In fact, I bet Zoe is hoping they're all gay...

Then there is the money and controversy issue that has already been brought up.  Do you want some right wing nuts protesting your game?  And Fox News blasting it?  Or wait, maybe that's a good idea, free publicity...

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 I'm pretty sure Bill is not a fag, but Louis is hard to gauge. He screams like a girl and whines all the time. I'm thinking they are keeping Zoey around just to stave off the rumours. 3 - 4 guys running around in a zombie apocolypse? sounds pretty gay.

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The way to correct this is to look otuside of America for inspiration. Let's face it, we have no idea what we're doing when it comes to non-stereotypical writing. Including gay characters do not have to involve stereotypes or overly romantic subplots. The problem is, the only way most people can picture homosexuality is masculine wymyn or feminine men, and avoiding stereotype is merely subtly showing these traits. Even our "positive" gay shows such as Will and Grace rely on such stereotypes.

Anyone who's really watched foreign shows, such as the BBC know that this is one of America's flaws. Just off the top of my head, characters like Captain Jack Harkness from Torchwood, and Timebomb from iTV's No Heroics stand out as non-sterotypical gay characters. They are characters that would not be out of place in video games, strong masculine men's men, that also happen to have non-heterosexuality. The key is in a couple of personality mentions, that go a long way towards felshing out the character of a story.

When you start off in the player's house, there could be certain pin-ups on the walls, for example, and you could have the player's character roll their eyes a bit in the presence of a heterosexual interaction. These little cues are what would identify the character as gay, without overt annoying voices or "pink armor". But it would be mroe than we have now. The reason why games like Fable 2 are ntoed for these kinds of things is because they present it to flatly and matter-of-factly, without framing personalities around it.

 

 

 

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Oh come now, you're not seriously saying that Captain Jack is gay are you? He'll shag ANYTHING

Jack was always more likely to be a balanced portrayal of a gay/bi guy though becuse he was written by one, thats probably another reason why games lack major gay characters, a relatively small number of gay writers.

 

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I dunno I'd be kinda insulted being Heterosexual if I was forced to play a character that rolled it's eyes at my prefered romantic choice, and personally from a gameplay/story perspective...I'd like to see more Fable/Jade Empire style games...they are my favorite but there aren't too many of them, even KOTOR Had a Homosexual twist in the lines (If I am remembering right). I much more enjoy the games that allow me to shape my own character...

However, I'd be more offended, if they did start trashing storylines for homosexual friendly characters, if it's not in the script it's not in the script...and a plot writer shouldn't have to worry about such things as they might not add to the story written, same with the fact that some stories written wouldn't work with Heterosexual characters you know?

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And someone who is gay and playign games just needs to deal with it? There's a lto more eye-rolling at homosexual aspects in games then hetero. And any storyline that can support a straight love story can support a gay one too. I don't see how people think they are that different.

Gay love stories can be just as valid portrayed with or without conflict. One (with) shows a more realistic version of how life is now for gays, while one (without conflict) presents a model of reality that would be more desireable and teaches tolerance.

 

Win win.

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This is my biggest problem with the gay community. They act like that every gay person has to yell out their sexual orintation to the world.

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Well, that would be because we look exactly the same as straight people, and are assumed to be straight until we reveal ourselves. That involves disclosing (which I guess you hear as yelling) one's sexual orientation.

I'm sure it's happened at least one time (probably in a fight with my mother), but I can't really remember ever "yelling out" that I'm gay. It doesn't affect 80% of my daily social interactions. But it does affect my relationship with the books I read, the movies I see, the TV I watch and the games I play. No one is asking for every game to have a little something something just for gay people--that would be unworkable and absurd. But games like Fable and Mass Effect and such, which are mature and intelligent and which can incorporate gay content naturally, are made that much more enjoyable for gamers like me.

By the way, when you played through the Metroid games and found out that Samus was female, did you throw down the controller and complain that "now women are getting into everything--damn feminists!"?

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That isn't what I meant. Just to make it clear, I am all for gay people to live the way they want, mostly because I believe everyone should have equal rights in every single way.

What I meant for yelling is pretty much what it sounds like, just going out to the public, and announcing your sexual orientation to the world, and let everyone know about it. Not only that it's not necessary, but just because you don't see that in movies or video games (in a mature manner at least), doesn't mean there needs to be more of it. Dumbledore from Harry Potter is gay, but you never see a gay reference in any of the books. You would only know that because J.K. Rowling said it to a little kid.

I bet most people don't know that Rick Mercer is gay, but he openly admits it. But he doesn't go on his show and starts announcing it to the world. (By the way, he has a damn great show.)

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I assume you yell that your gay during arguments with your mother because she "disapproves" of your orientation.  I feel bad for ya bro, it sucks that your mother is like that.

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Well said.

 

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As a gay gamer, I appreciate the fantasy element of game playing as much as the next guy, and prefer to be able to make appropriate choices about my character's sexuality and how it's enacted in the story. Making a character gay just so you can say there's a gay character in the game is pretty much useless. I've greatly enjoyed the Fable series and Mass Effect for making same-sex relationships possible and viable without making them mandatory or presenting a distorted or homophobic view of them. Bully was another good example of this--the kissing option was there, but it was not a requirement to fulfill a quest or gain some points. I expect that representation of gays, lesbians, transsexuals, etc. will continue to mature. Besides, it's only recently that we've started seeing any kind of racial diversity among major game characters--there's still quite a ways to go on that front.

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 This arguement is a little one sided. On one hand you want the freedom to steer the character to whatever leaning you want, but how quickly would your community be up in arms if there was as equal a freedom for the computer to like/dislike your choices? I.e. If you make a roleplaying character into a homosexual, you randomly encounter anti-homosexual mobs that try and attack you. Or on the other hand, anti-heterosexual mobs should you choose that path.

 There would be rioting in the (gay) streets.

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Anti-heterosexual mobs? oh please ther is no such thing.  They only exist in the minds of homophobic jackasses, they need to grow up pull the, erm, sticks out of their collective asses and stop making shit up.

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Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

Actually, I find your scenario to be rather unrealistic.  They might get a few angsty homosexuals angry, but overall I think a lot of gays would find it as a great commentary for what some of they actually have to deal with. 

 

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 There are always people on the fringes of the right and the left within said community who will decry it as a "training simulation for hate crimes".

Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

And that's why they are on the fringe, 'cause the rest of us understand that they're nuts.

 

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I tend to agree with the viewpoint that one of the main reasons that publishers avoid including LGBT characters and storylines in games is due to the massive backlash factor. Nothing makes basically conservative, risk-averse business types in the corner office twitch harder than the idea that a product they've sunk money and manpower into producing might tank as a result of factors outside their control -- factors including massive queer-fear being trumpeted all over the media. I do, however, also agree that, in order ameliorate the ability of bashers to generate that backlash in the first place, publishers need to sack up and just flat out say, "Look, these characters are gay and that is not a bad thing." The fundamental ideas and attitudes about a topic ingrained in the dominant culture only change if the producers of that culture -- and that includes game developers and publishers -- are willing to help change them. As EZK said, video games will only begin maturing as an artform when they begin acknowledging and acting upon their ability to change the cultural conversation in this regard.

Does this mean that I think every game that's published should address homosexuality as a social issue? Of course not. That's ridiculous and, for the record, I don't think that's what Brad Hilderbrand is saying, either. Similarly, I think that saying 'why should video games address sexuality at all' is a little disingenuous. How many games have not only romantic plots among the main characters but among the supporting cast and background NPCs? Seriously, think about it. Romance permeates whole classes of games (RPGs, I'm lookin' at you) and, by logical extension, the inherent sexuality of the characters involved in those ubiquitous romance plots and subplots is being commented on -- and those comments are, except in very rare cases, pretty much universally heterosexual. I don't think anybody is actually asking for gays to be more 'visible' in the every third character being a flaming queen or a diesel dyke sense, so much as a it'd be nice if one of those epic, sweeping, love that can change the world for the better romance plots would revolve around some LGBT characters for a change sense. And I, for one, would love like burning to see more intensely badass gay characters for whom their intense badassness and their gayness are both fundamental to the character, as depicted in their relationships with other characters, and absolutely nobody thinks that this is at all weird or unusual.

Normativity, baby, it's the name of the game.

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Obviously nobody in here plays King of Fighters...

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 Did I missing something? Unless there is some sort of sexual theme to the story, why do we care who or what the protagonist has sex with? I could care less what people do in the privacy of their own homes, but forcing everyone to sit through their lifestyle is no different than someone telling them its wrong.

 Maybe have a toggle in the games options: Gayness [] on [x] off (default).

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While I can simply say that it's implied that you said something right, I can't say it outright or believe it without Dividing By ZERO.

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Re: Journalist Asks: Are Games Gay Enough?

Yeah and I'm still confused about this assumption that a character like Marcus can't be gay, as if they all have to be pansy, pastel-wearing pussies.  (Say that three-times fast).  The Romans conquered a large section of Europe and the Middle East and they were hardly prudish when it came to homosexual behavior.  Seems like this guy wants more stereotypes in the games, which is neither a good thing nor a solution to the problem he's presenting.

Hehehe, I dig the toggle option.  One free interwebz for you.  Bring your ticket to the front desk and claim your prize.

 

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Word.

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The guy never played Army of Two apparently...

But honestly, would it matter?  If Marcus was gay (and he might have a thing or two for Dom) should he be acting any differently?  I don't get it.  Unless there is a romantic sub-plot within the story when is the character's sexuality even an issue?

It seems like the guy is complaining that not enough game characters act as obviously gay.  Who says a gay man can't be a foul-mouthed, violence-loving, mean-spirited bastard like Marcus Fenix?  Should his armor be pink so we know for certain?  Maybe a lisp?  It seems the author wants more characters to be obviously homosexual in ways that many would view as stereotypical.

In a heavy story-driven game I can see where he's getting at.  There usually aren't many homosexuals.  But for the most part games are about gameplay, how fun it is to play.  Would it make sense to complain that there aren't any (apparently) gay characters in Team Fortress 2?  No.  Why?  Because it's all about the frags, not whether or not any of the characters are fags!  (We're allowed to use that word now, right?)

Bah...bah I say.

 

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See this is exactly what I'm getting at. When writers start making characters blatantly gay, the people who bitched about the lack of gay characters will start bitching about stereotypes. Thats why, we should just keep the subtle gayness alive... Like in Gears of War.

(You just know that Cliffy B. is gonna see these posts and hold a press conference about Gears of War 2 not being gay... or broken!!)

 

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Lisa: Well, you're gay for Moleman.

Bart: No, you're gay for Moleman.

Lisa: No, you are.

Hans Moleman: Noone is gay for Moleman.

Sorry, just had to.

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Speaking of the Simpsons, didn't it take the Simpsons almost twenty years to really take homosexuality head on? Sure they had the enuendo of Smithers and Martin among others, but it wasn't until the gay marriage episode that they actually made it a central focus.

If it took the Simpsons that long, why are we complaining about games not doing it now?

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If I remember correctly, they had an episode before that with the gay toy store owner.  Homer was afraid Bart was turning gay and so tried to "man him up" by taking him to traditionally "manly" places like the steel mill, only these places were filled with homosexuals.

"We work hard, we play hard."  *cue house music*

I've always thought Lara Croft was a lesbian...with Mai from King of Fighters...well, fantasize really...

...Ok, if anyone needs me I'll be in my bunk.  You may want to knock first.

 

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Irony is a bitch when you mention lara croft and Mai form KOF.

 

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I fail to see where I was being ironic, but if you say so...

 

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Ah, forgot about that episode. So that makes it what, 15 years?

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Something like that, yeah.  Back during the golden age of Simpson's writing.

"Alcohol the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

"But beware, for the Monkey's hand is cursed."

"That's bad."

"But it comes with a free frogurt!"

"That's good."

"The frogurt is also cursed."

"That's bad."

"But you get your choice of topping!"

"That's good."

"The toppings contain potassium benzoayte" (Too lazy to look up proper spelling.)

*blank stare* "...That's bad."

"Can I go home now?"

Weeeeeee, thread-jacking w/ Simpson's quotes!

 

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I think the most appropriate Simpsons quote for this thread is:

"DID HE GIVE YOU GAY!?!?!?"

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Andrew EisenMP - Probably not and for good reason. That term holds a lot of deserved negative baggage.08/27/2014 - 10:02pm
Uncharted NESApprently there is still a classic mode, but...08/27/2014 - 9:34pm
MaskedPixelanteSo, there's been massive positive reception to the Mario Kart 8 DLC bundle. Somehow, I doubt it would have gotten as much positive buzz if they called it a "Season Pass".08/27/2014 - 9:34pm
Uncharted NEShttp://m.pcgamer.com/2014/08/27/quake-live-makes-newbie-friendly-changes-in-latest-update-people-get-mad/08/27/2014 - 9:19pm
Uncharted NESQuake Live makes newbie-friendly changes in latest update, people get mad.08/27/2014 - 9:19pm
Uncharted NESAnd here's another article about it.08/27/2014 - 9:19pm
Uncharted NEShttp://kotaku.com/id-software-lives-dangerously-decides-to-change-classi-162774804308/27/2014 - 9:16pm
Uncharted NESid Software Lives Dangerously, Decides To Change Classic Quake08/27/2014 - 9:16pm
Matthew WilsonI am flying out to pax tomorrow.08/27/2014 - 9:16pm
MechaTama31Haven't been to GOG in a while. Their website reminds me of the old Zune software now...08/27/2014 - 6:01pm
Andrew EisenAlso, I know it's nitpicking but only ONE of the 21 movies on offer goes for $15. Four more are $10 and the rest are $6. But right now, all of them are $6 (except for two that are free).08/27/2014 - 3:22pm
E. Zachary KnightMasked, What are you talking about? I guess you never buy DVDs either?08/27/2014 - 3:21pm
Andrew EisenNot if they've hired more people.08/27/2014 - 3:13pm
MaskedPixelantePlus, now that they're negotiating movies, that's LESS manpower to negotiate true, pre-2000, non-console-port classics.08/27/2014 - 3:08pm
MaskedPixelanteNo rewatch value, once you've seen it there's no reason to rewatch it, and it's 15 bucks down the drain.08/27/2014 - 3:06pm
E. Zachary KnightIndie movies are a great start. They need a great distribution system too.08/27/2014 - 3:04pm
Andrew EisenEven if that were true, so what?08/27/2014 - 3:01pm
MaskedPixelanteYou do realize that there are going to be NO Hollywood movies on this service, right? It's all going to be indie documentaries and stuff like that.08/27/2014 - 2:56pm
Andrew EisenI think it's an awesome next step for GOG and completely fail to see why anyone finds it problematic or improper.08/27/2014 - 2:51pm
MaskedPixelantehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg My feelings on the latest GOG news.08/27/2014 - 12:47pm
 

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