Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game Phrases

January 9, 2009 -

A report in the Beijing Morning Post describes the plight of Xiao Cai, a 23-year-old man whose alleged addiction to online games caused him to attempt suicide four times.

At least one of those tries involved swallowing steel blades (in-game sword imagery?)

Chinese media site Danwei translates:

Xiao Cai was so addicted to the Internet that his mental well-being was affected. He wanted to kill himself, so he ingested saw blades... Currently his condition is stable...

 

After his mother finished feeding him, Xiao Cai became a little restless and started to fidget... He was mouthing phrases from online games, and would occasionally laugh...

Xiao Cai began playing online games in junior high school. A while after this a female netizen betrayed him, and he was so hurt that he put the majority of his time into playing online games. Xiao Cai became more and more addicted to the Internet, even to the point of being affected mentally... Before he ingested saw blades, he had also ingested sleeping pills and pesticides...


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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

I think he has alot of problems

 

Shobidoo, the hardcore gamer

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

"Xiao Cai became more and more addicted to the Internet, even to the point of being affected mentally..."

Wow. Just wow.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Follow this train of thought if you will... in a stern and stringent state where you are watched almost all the time by authority, life choices are limited to what they want to give you and you want to blame the only exsacpe a person my find for the mental damage?


Shearing/Downloading will never be a mainstream market.


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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Because it doesn't fall in line with their ideals. From what I've seen, anything not endorsed by Chinese government is evil, according to the Chinese government. Since the Internet Gaming circlehas been proven NOT in line with their ideas, it must be automatically evil and expunged from society.

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

He's chinese, his government doesn't care, they're taught to work themselves to the death. This wouldn't receive any media coverage if it wasn't about online games. Look at what happens to their athletes. They practice self destructive training methods, then when their bodies are used up, they're sent away with no way to support themselves.

That he obsessed over a game, or over anything, when that's how he's taught to work, isn't a big revelation.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Seems to me the crux of depression is more the girl that 'left' him and not games or the internet. I say we ban relationships between men and women and all sex and displays of affection should be on a paid basis. This way no one ever gets jealous or depressed over breaks ups and try to kill someone else or themselves. It would solve so many problems and save so many lives, who's with me?   ... ... ...  no one?   ................

in case you're wondering, yes this was sarcasm ;)

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 Taboo topic time, everyone gather around.

 Why are we wasting resources saving people like this? If they want to die, so be it, let them do their thing. If they want to live, so be it, assist them. Its bullshit that suicide "attempts" are cries for help, there are many, MANY venues to get help beyond slicing open your wrists and swallowing a mittful of pills.

 With how many people are struggling to live, fighting for food, water and just trying not to get shot, I have absolutely no sympathy for these selfish individuals who squander their lives.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Nothing personal Dero, but I'm a little offended here.  As someone who has not only threatened, but attempted suicide, as well as having family who has attempted as well, I'm not very amused.  Just because other venues are open, doesn't mean that the person can see them.  The problem is that most people who attempt/commit suicide, are not thinking even close to straight, and see the only way out as suicide.

I personally can attest to this, and it is only by a sheer fluke that I didn't die in my attempt.  As such, I invite you to please stop speaking.

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Speaking as someone who actually HAS a chemical imbalance problem I find your attitude disgusting.

There are people out there who suffer from a multitude of problems. Lonlieness, depression, feeling worth less due to constant bullying, and any number of other mental health issues can be totally debilitating. Any of those could be reasons that a person tries to kill themselves, it doesn't make that person worthless it just makes them in need of help.

Compassion, kindness and love are not weaknesses they are one of the greatest strengths a person can show.

I've found over the course of my life that the best test of a person's character is their attitude toward people who need help. Congratulations on failing that test in a manner both public and spectacular.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Yeah , i mean dear god, what kind of people want to think of somebody other than themselves and actually feel interested in helping somebody deal with their problems [/sarcasm]. And in this case i think its clear that the victim has a mental problems ( talking / laughing to himself + eating blades). What kind of person wants to help  somebody like that.. yeah yeah let them die.[/sarcasm]

You do realise that a mental health issue is acually often a physical thing dont you? an actual chemical imbalance that often people have no control over, hence medication is often prescribed to adress those chemical imbalances.

I mean you do  know that right? you wouldnt be making a completely uneducated and frankly prejudiced statement without doing any research would you?

 

''there are many, MANY venues to get help beyond slicing open your wrists and swallowing a mittful of pills.''

who ever said that there wasnt many venues to get help? i didnt read that anywhere. And from personal experience with self-harming individuals ive never heard any say that there arent other options.

But that doesnt necessarily mean that those individuals are aware of these options as valid avenues to tackle their problem.

Thats half of the problem. teaching self-harmers how to cope with and deal with certain problems in better ways. We arent born with a psychology manual embedded in our brains. We arent born knowing how to do everything, and every person is an individual. my brain is physically different from yours. So just because you know how to cope well and deal with problems doesnt mean I or anyone else necessarily does (or that even if they did know , that their brain would physically respond in the same way). Certain individuals may produce 100's of times more 'stress' chemicals than you do etc etc. Theres a million different reasons why people self harm, you cant even begin to just sum it up in one blunt sentence like you tried to do.

 

''With how many people are struggling to live, fighting for food, water and just trying not to get shot, I have absolutely no sympathy for these selfish individuals who squander their lives.''

Fair enough thats your opinion. But i am also entitled to mine, and i have to say that i find your views rather selfish. And i am equally entitled to that opinion.

With respect to the issues i raised earlier, just because somebody is dying of starvation etc (although it is a terrible terrible thing) that doesnt magically send energy waves into somebodies brain and physically change the levels of chemicals flowing around. If a condition is largely due to a chemical balance (e.g. some is mentally disturbed/ schizophrenic  or post-natal depression perhaps)then that fact does not physically change those chemicals sadly.

Finally, You do realise that often self harmers are some of their own harshest critics right? You do realise that by telling a self-harmer to 'just get over it' and that there are 'people in far worse situations' is probably the LAST thing to tell them, as many already tell themselves that daily, which makes it increasingly hard for them to pull themselves out of the rutt they have gotten into, actually compounding the problems?  

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

"Yeah , i mean dear god, what kind of people want to think of somebody other than themselves and actually feel interested in helping somebody deal with their problems [/sarcasm]. And in this case i think its clear that the victim has a mental problems ( talking / laughing to himself + eating blades). What kind of person wants to help  somebody like that.. yeah yeah let them die.[/sarcasm]"

 Useless people are still useless even after you help them. There is a distinct lack of natural-selective forces in human society, people who should have died off shortly after birth for being failed examples of the species continue on to breed and weaken the whole.

"You do realise that a mental health issue is acually often a physical thing dont you? an actual chemical imbalance that often people have no control over, hence medication is often prescribed to adress those chemical imbalances."

 So we are suppose to tolerate these genetic failures and sustain them long enough to reproduce and hand down their ailments to their offspring? Whose really the cruel person here?

"I mean you do  know that right? you wouldnt be making a completely uneducated and frankly prejudiced statement without doing any research would you?"

 Yes, yes, I know all of these things. I assumed that they were such common knowledge that they could go without being said. Apparently you need to think aloud.

"who ever said that there wasnt many venues to get help? i didnt read that anywhere. And from personal experience with self-harming individuals ive never heard any say that there arent other options."

 So you admit he is responsible for his own actions and the subsequent risk of death therein? This is nothing further to discuss, you've made my point.

"But that doesnt necessarily mean that those individuals are aware of these options as valid avenues to tackle their problem."

 Their perceptions are not my concern, millions of dollars is spent every year setting these things up for them. Why should we hold their hand through every little fucking detail?

"Thats half of the problem. teaching self-harmers how to cope with and deal with certain problems in better ways. We arent born with a psychology manual embedded in our brains. We arent born knowing how to do everything, and every person is an individual. my brain is physically different from yours. So just because you know how to cope well and deal with problems doesnt mean I or anyone else necessarily does (or that even if they did know , that their brain would physically respond in the same way). Certain individuals may produce 100's of times more 'stress' chemicals than you do etc etc. Theres a million different reasons why people self harm, you cant even begin to just sum it up in one blunt sentence like you tried to do."

 These people are the exception, not the rule. The majority of humanity gets alone fine without eat saw blades, the remainder are obviously disfunctional in some fashion. So long as it stays this way, we can do perfectly well without them.

"Fair enough thats your opinion. But i am also entitled to mine, and i have to say that i find your views rather selfish. And i am equally entitled to that opinion."

 Because its selfish to want a stronger species, and not have future generations dealing with these issues.

"With respect to the issues i raised earlier, just because somebody is dying of starvation etc (although it is a terrible terrible thing) that doesnt magically send energy waves into somebodies brain and physically change the levels of chemicals flowing around. If a condition is largely due to a chemical balance (e.g. some is mentally disturbed/ schizophrenic  or post-natal depression perhaps)then that fact does not physically change those chemicals sadly."

 Wtf are you trying to get at, you have more asides than foundation material. Reword and repost.

"Finally, You do realise that often self harmers are some of their own harshest critics right? You do realise that by telling a self-harmer to 'just get over it' and that there are 'people in far worse situations' is probably the LAST thing to tell them, as many already tell themselves that daily, which makes it increasingly hard for them to pull themselves out of the rutt they have gotten into, actually compounding the problems?  "

 So their self awareness and refusal to take control of the situation lays the responsibility, yet again, on their shoulders. If they were unaware of their condition, you'd have the slightest hope for a case, but they don't, so you don't.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Okay, Dero, what if.... just what if it were one of your close relatives who happened to have a mental disorder? What would you think or do concerning that?

(By the way, it's a "what if" question, so anything on the lines of "My family doesn't have any mental illnesses, so there!" is an invalid answer.)

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

AE: None of that please.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

So Dero can say literally anything he wants as long as he properly sugar coats it first? Can you tell me exactly what it was that made my comment over the line?

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

"So Dero can say literally anything he wants as long as he properly sugar coats it first?"

No, which is why I've deleted several of his posts.

"Can you tell me exactly what it was that made my comment over the line?"

If I'm remembering right, and it's possible I'm not, you wrote something about hoping someone killed him.  That's crossing the line.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Andrew, I'm trying really, really hard to see how Derovius is contributing anything constructive, or even neutral, to this discussion.  I can't really tell if he's just an intentional troll, or really just that stupid.  In either case, I'm having trouble seeing why his posting privileges haven't been revoked yet for this thread alone?

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

What the fuck.

 

What you are advocating is nothing short of eugenics, and as one of those "weaker people" who knows lots of other "weaker people" you want to kill off, that's just wrong and creepy. I don't think I've ever read a comment here before until now that makes me sick in my mouth. Congratulations.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

''Useless people are still useless even after you help them''

what..? we are talking about 'mentally ill' people. how do you translate that to 'useless'. Geez. Whats your point, just stating random facts? ill also have you know that ''UseFULL people are still useFULL even after you help them''.

Mental illness doesnt selectively choose who it targets.

 

''So you admit he is responsible for his own actions and the subsequent risk of death therein? This is nothing further to discuss, you've made my point.''

what? no i didnt say that specifically about this victim at all. I said i know 'self harmers',  (not the victim in this article) and none of them have said that they arent responsible for their own actions. i.e. the people with less severe mental illness that i have known have said this.  Please read what is written.  I have never said that anyone who is severely mentally disturbed is responsible for their own actions.  And i never would. Taking it to its furthest extent, would i say someone who is clinically insane is repsonsible for their own actions? completely not. And neither does the law. hence insanity is a defence to murder. Youve made my point.

 

 

''So we are suppose to tolerate these genetic failures and sustain them long enough to reproduce and hand down their ailments to their offspring? ''

they let you out of your cage didnt they?

but seriously though..

a) it isnt necessarily genetic

b) it may not be transferrable to offspring

c) even if it is technically transferrable, doesnt mean it will be.

d) who gets to say what we 'tolerate' and what we dont. I remember a certain german dictator who said things an awful lot like you. And look how that ended.

 

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

"what..? we are talking about 'mentally ill' people. how do you translate that to 'useless'. Geez. Whats your point, just stating random facts? ill also have you know that ''UseFULL people are still useFULL even after you help them''."

 There is 1 L in useful, goddamn it.

"Mental illness doesnt selectively choose who it targets."

 Yes it does, people with a family history are the most likely candidates for mental illness. For their to be a significant and consistent manifestation of these chemical imbalances, there has to be something wrong their genes.

"they let you out of your cage didnt they?"

 You've not been paying attention, have you? I'm the Ubermenchen.

"but seriously though..

a) it isnt necessarily genetic"

 Yes, yes it is.

"b) it may not be transferrable to offspring"

  I thought you just said...

"c) even if it is technically transferrable, doesnt mean it will be."

 ... you're talking in a circle.

"d) who gets to say what we 'tolerate' and what we dont. I remember a certain german dictator who said things an awful lot like you. And look how that ended."

 This is where Shadow comes running in screaming, "Hey! Godwins law guys! Godwins law! I'm cool now right? RIGHT?! SOMEONE TALK TO ME!".

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

'Yes it does, people with a family history are the most likely candidates for mental illness. '

and prey tell genius... how did it actively select their ancestors?

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 Mutation? How should I know. If I was omniscient, you think I'd be wasting my time with you people?

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Seeing the pompous way you act now, I'd saayyyyy... Yes.

 

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

You obviously think we're all wrong ,wo why are you still here then?

Peh, elitists.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

and mutation is actively selecting?

I think you just contradicted yourself.

Please add one to your fail score.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 When did I say they were specifically chosen to be genetic failures? They simply are, and because human society prevents the normal tendencies of natural selection, they are allowed to continue to spread their problems to future generations.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

So you're saying invalids like Stephen Hawking shouldn't be allowed to be born? Riiiiight.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Thru history, a lot of brilliant individuals also presented several kinds of illness, both physical and mental. As I work with polymers (plastics), I can present one example. Wallace Carothers, known for Nylon, Neoprene, and polyester fibers. Suffered from chronic depression, and 1937 he commited suicide. Great genius often comes with a price.

What is being suggested about leaving mentally ill people to die is nothing sort of Eugenics, and yes, just like the nice guy in germany. That`s not the solution.

And expecting people suffering from, say, depression (which I have personal experience with) to rise by themselves only show that you don`t know what is and what feels like to see the world throught a black and white spectrum, with no hope. It`s a condition that can only be fought professionally, assuming that the person, at first, don`t want to be helped. Do you desire so much death among your fellow humans?

I have to agree that helping perpetuates the genetic problems, and that we no longer evolve as Darwin predicted. Yet I believe the future holds the key, and it is genetic engineering, and not leaving people to die (or perhaps extermination, if things get really ugly).

Edit: Slight correction of typos

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Wasn't Socrates mentally unstable?

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 Actually, looking around their have been numerous famous people in history who suffered from some form of mental illness. Abraham Lincoln supposedly suffered from a severe depression possibly getting as bad as being suicidal (though not sure about that last part)... not that i am saying that people with mental disorders will go on to do great things, those famous people would be an exception tot he rule, but at the very least they can become functioning members of society

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 Old Abe was a closet homosexual to, don't forget to add that to his dossier. You're going to have to come up with someone somewhat more important if you want to convince me of this. Like Jesus or thing.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 well, winston churchill is a name that pops up when looking for famous people that suffered from some kind of mental illness... isaac Newton is another one

though i don't see why i need to pick out people that are like the greatest of the greatest... my argument is really just that people with mental disorders can become functioning members of society and contribute just as much as any healthy person can...

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 Evidently, neither of them tried to kill themselves. Maybe thats what makes them great, where as the rest of these lowlifes just sap resources from people around them and take up space.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Little did you know the apple incident was Newton's attempt at suicide by falling fruit.

He failed the hardest of them all.

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Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

right... *sigh*..

 

a) addicted to the internet ? or to games? Strange that China is continually pushing VERY draconian state control over internet the internet, and this just happens to occur 'because of the internet'. If only china had complete control over what its citizens could see and do, then they could protect them from the scary big bad evils of the internet... [/sarcasm]

 

b) if this guy wanted to commit suicide BECAUSE of games/internet, i would be baffled. Surely his excessive use could just be a SYMPTOM rather than a cause.

c) he 'became a little restless and started to fidget... He was mouthing phrases from online games, and would occasionally laugh...' - see point B.. again this is evidence that the internet/games were not the cause of hsi problems... im pretty certain that behaviour like this (i know from personal experiences with mentally ill family members) often indicates a far deeper problem, i.e. being mentally disturbed.

d) again more evidence of being mentally disturbed... if someboy wants to kill themselves, they rarely do it in an excrutiatingly painful way. Swallowing.. blades? ouch. Not something somebody who was thinking 'rationally' (as rational as you can do in the context of feeling suicidal ) would do.

 

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Geez. Blades, and this was AFTER pills and pesticides?

 

Just how painful that must be is too much for me to fathom..

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

"Geez. Blades, and this was AFTER pills and pesticides?"

Yeah really!  It sounds as if this kid's biggest problem is that he's indestructible.

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

uh... anyone who chooses to swallow steel blades in order to end their own life most likely has problems WELL beyond game addiction.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

...Yeah, I'm going to bet that his "addiction" was not the cause of his problems. Instead, it was a symptoms of his problems - namely him spending vast amounts of time doing something that made him feel better in an attempt to cope.

-Gray17

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

 you know your life suck when you can't even kill yourself...  j\k

 

But in all seriousness, this is a good exemple of how the "game addiction" is a symptom of another social problem, in this case it was "female netizen betrayed him" (i'm guessing girlfriend?) 

Family and friends could of tried to help him out before it got to that point, One Suicide attempt should be enough to force him to get professional help, how could they let him try 4 times!?!

Re: Online Game Addict Swallows Steel Blades, Mutters Game

Yeah...  I never heard of addiction causing suicide unless it was ODing.  Now major depression on the other hand can cause you to go into addict type behavior, and eventually commit suicide, and is quiet common.

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