NY Bill Would Shield Minors from Racist Stereotypes and Profanity in Games

A new legislative proposal to restrict the sale of video games portraying negative racial stereotypes and bad language has been proposed in the New York Assembly.

The measure, A01474, was submitted by Assemblyman Keith L.T. Wright, a Democrat from Manhattan. The bill, which has been referred to the Assembly’s Consumer Protection and Affairs Committee:

Prohibits the sale to minors of certain rated video games containing a rating that reflects content of various degrees of profanity, racist stereotypes or derogatory language, and/or actions toward a specific group of persons.

A similar bill proposed by Wright in 2007 failed to pass.

GamePolitics readers will recall that New York passed a video game law in 2008 mandating – redundantly – that game packages display ratings and that consoles offer parental control features. The video game industry did not bring a legal challenge, however, since those remedies were already in place and the law did not threaten sales.

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  1. 0
    Baruch_S says:

    Unfortunately, the libertarian party doesn’t do better in the country. Having a government that doesn’t moralize or treat its citizens like morons would be great. I don’t know what we’d do if everyone suddenly became responsible for his own actions and couldn’t rely on some sort of government aid to help him out when he stubs his toe.

  2. 0
    Bigman-K says:

    Clear violation of the First Amendment. The nanny-state can’t restrict what minors can or can’t watch, play, read or listen to as minors have First Amendment rights. That is the sole responsibility of the individual parents to decide and enforce on their own.

     "No law means no law" – Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

  3. 0
    Father Time says:

    I have got to get to gamepolitics earlier, I miss all the good discussions.

    How do they define derogatory? I mean their exact definition. I can’t find the text of the bill.

    Would the protagonist insulting the antagonist be considered derogatory?

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  4. 0
    BrandonL337 says:

    No what is it?

    There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

  5. 0
    Hitodama says:

    Damn straight! The sheep of our country don’t realize that "Republican" and "Democrat" are not the only parties. They’re both pretty new actually.

  6. 0
    Wolvenmoon says:

    Who defines a racist stereotype? I hear certain racist words out of the race they’re degrading to more often than I do the race most often accused of being racist.

    However, ‘dumbass’ doesn’t seem to be racist yet. Nor does ‘naive’.

    ESRB ratings should NOT be legislated, because the ESRB has shown VERY obvious bias and VERY poor judgement in many of its M ratings.

  7. 0
    Shiro says:

    Simple (but extremely stupid) solution really, put a label on EVERYTHING that could expose minors to racist stereotypes and profanity. That’ll fix everything. It’ll be like the prohibition movement, which did absolutely NOTHING. (Well, it did increase bootlegging, if that counts.)

    Anyone find it strange they don’t mention shielding minors from pornography? Or do they realize that there’s literally no possible way in doing so? If it’s the latter, why bother shielding them from the other two? It’s a harsh world we live in, sugarcoating the truth might have detrimental effects.

    But honestly, people seriously have to stop dragging race into everything, it’s unfortunate, but racism is rather apparent. We just have to deal with it to the best of our ability, and not let it cloud our judgment of people.

    It’s not a problem that is just going to magically disappear overnight, you know? So this bill, if it passes (Heaven forbid) really won’t make much of a difference in the long run. 

    That’s just my opinion. What does everyone else think?

    Only by letting strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves.

  8. 0
    GoodRobotUs says:

    How on Earth is this going to be enforced, who is going to define what is ‘acceptable’ and what is not?

    What about a game that uses racial stereotyping to satirise or ridicule racists, much like GTA does freqiently?

     

    So many questions, so much vagueness…

  9. 0
    Benjamin_Snow says:

    Racism, although rare, is still breathing.  These kids are gonna encounter it at schools and such.  And hell, some kids are already exposed to racism and profanity.

     

    Also, that man makes me feel ashame for being black.  Just another one of us using our race for an pointless issue.

     

    "We may be human, but we’re still animals" -Steve Vai (World’s greatest guitarist!)

  10. 0
    Geoff says:

    Only 3/5 of the black headcrab population is counted?

    OR

    See what happens when you let one black headcrab move into the neighborhood?  You open the door for his entire family.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  11. 0
    nightwng2000 says:

    Let’s see:

    Familiar arguments about how segregating one media format from all others formats, genres, etc

    Familiar arguments about various religions promoting bigotry and hate being "exempt" from such laws.

    Familiar arguments calling "bullpucky" to the arguments that bigotry, such as racism, can ONLY be against one group but not another.  Bigotry, even racism, is bigotry, no matter who the victim is and no matter who the attacker is.

    I’ve been on the rampage in the past about abuse and bigotry, but we have to remember that no one is FORCED to purchase ANY product containing such material.  This is closer to the willing participation of friends who pick at one another, even roughly.

    Also, do you discern between who CREATED the material vs what the materil contains?  For example, many African-American rap singers have created music that many in society find objectionable to the African-American community.  If we translated this to the video game industry, do we consider said material "racist" if it came from someone of the same race?

    There is plenty of bigotry and hate from even popular, accepted sources.  Will THEY be held to the same standards?  They haven’t in other media formats.

    The fact is, this bill is not merely unconstitutional, it is unethical and bigotted as well.

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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    Ashkihyena says:

    "Goes to show that a lot of the labels thrown around today like liberal, conservative, socialist, etc. all really mean the same thing: bullshit." IAWTC.

    And its funny, since most of the time its the Democrats who are trying to pass laws that restrict video games.

  13. 0
    Shiro says:

    Technically speaking, this bill won’t shield minors from anything. It’s merely delaying the inevitable. There’s no way minors won’t see racist stereotypes and hear profanity. They go to school and watch movies don’t they? Seriously, don’t politicians have bigger fish to fry? It’s New York, there has to be more pressing issues to deal with…

    Only by letting strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves.

  14. 0
    Spartan says:


    No doubt. WTF is the world coming to???

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  15. 0
    Baruch_S says:

    Exactly! These kids go to school. They’ll pick up the profanity and racial stereotypes on the playground; they don’t need to get them from video games or any other form of media.

  16. 0
    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    *buzzer sounds*

    Wrong again! Ever hear of the Invisible Children movement?

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  17. 0
    Geoff says:

    There were in Half-life 2.  They were faster than the white ones and if they hit you your health would drop to 1 for a few seconds, then slowly go back up to what it originally was before you got hit.

    They couldn’t kill you but they could keep your health at 1 so long as you kept getting bit. 

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  18. 0
    Arell says:

    I think I’m starting to develop a sense for which bills are a farce and which bills are a threat.  I’m not the least bit worried about this one.

    Although, if it were to pass, all future Tak games would be at risk.  They make a mockery of tribal people, after all.  Oh, and every fighting game, ever, because developers don’t know how to not include stereotypes in those.

  19. 0
    nightwng2000 says:

    "…content of various degrees of profanity, racist stereotypes or derogatory language, and/or actions toward a specific group of persons."

    You just WANT me to go there yet again, don’t you?

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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    Papa Midnight says:

    They do realize then that every Xbox Live enabled game, every single PS3 multiplayer game, and every Mutliplayer PC game would have to be recalled in the state of New York. Hell, let’s recall Xbox 360’s while we’re at it. We all know what filthy and racist mouths that lot has. Just play Halo 3 for proof.

    Somewhere in that sentence, Sarcasm became fact…

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  21. 0
    Baruch_S says:

    The black headcrabs got to control bodies, too. They just had to give six other black headcrabs a ride and serve as a launching platform. I’m sure someone can make a racist connection out of that.

  22. 0
    Vinzent says:

    Finally! Legislation that declares it is illegal for anyone but white americans to commit crimes in games.

    It would seem that Assemblyman Wright is a racist.

  23. 0
    Geoff says:

    And why is it that the WHITE headcrab gets to control dead bodies, but the BLACK headcrab doesn’t?  What, they saying only a white headcrab is intelligent enough to move around a corpse?  That’s racist.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  24. 0
    Geoff says:

    For <b>social</b> conservatives, yes.  That term, btw, is something of an oxymoron.  One of the founding ideals of conservatism is to not have the government interfere in your affairs or personal choice, though few remember that now.

    Goes to show that a lot of the labels thrown around today like liberal, conservative, socialist, etc. all really mean the same thing: bullshit.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  25. 0
    Doomsong says:

    This law will finally do something about those savage racial stereotypes in videogames!! No more will our green Koopa Troopas grow up thinking that they have to walk off ledges!!!

    In all seriousness, does this mean ALL racial stereotypes, or just the ones that happen to piss off the hippies? I mean, if we start trying to make every game completely PC then no one would be able to connect with any of them… thus negating their enjoyment.

    How bout this: New York passes a law that states parental responsibility is mandatory. If parents don’t want their kids to be exposed to negative stereotypes and bad words, then I suggest putting them in a plastic bubble and hiding them from the real world.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" – Benjamin Franklin

  26. 0
    Spartan says:


    Will the government nanny please come and wipe my ass since not sure I can do it without some sort of psychological damage of having to do the dirty dead. 

     

    Nanny State strikes again!

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  27. 0
    Geoff says:

    Actually, Gordon Freeman is the physical embodiment of what every geek wishes he could be; a smart, respected scientist who gets to work in a secret government facility who can also single-handly stop both an alien invasion and US Special Ops.

    Alex Vance on the other hand is every geek’s fantasy; a non-white female who can both shoot a gun and build giant awesome robots.  What geek wouldn’t want that as a g/f?

    What was the topic again?  Oh yeah, racist games.

    Half-life is totally racist against inter-dimensonal beings.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  28. 0
    Zerodash says:

    I guess Gears of War would fall under this bill?  What about Street Figher games that have characters like T.Hawk & Dee Jay?  Is Gordon Freeman a negative white stereotype?  (of course hating on white people is considered a good thing by most people)  What about Mario and the fat, blue-collar italian stereotype?

    Who would decide which games are racist?

  29. 0
    nighstalker160 says:

    To be fair the "Sexual content" marker on Mass Effect could be construed as referring to the possible human-human sexual scenes or simply the fact that there is a single human engaged in sexual activity.

    It doesn’t take two people to make something sexual. A masturbation scene would be just as sexual (albeit in a different degree or way) than an intercourse scene.

  30. 0
    Derovius says:

     ESRB is not the vanguard of enforcible content. They labelled an intimate moment between an asexual alien and a human as sexual content. The aliens fucking asexual, the completely opposite of sexual. Christ.

  31. 0
    TaoJeannes says:

    Does the ESRB even have a rating remark for "racist stereotypes or derogatory language, and/or actions toward a specific group of persons"? This has no enforcibility at ALL.

  32. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    Im fine with this measure.

     

    As long as they apply it equally to all mediums (books movies etc).

     

     

    In terms of negative racial stereotypes:

    I was watchin 40 year old virgin the other day. Hell.. there is LOTS of (very funny and harmless) racial stereotyping in that between an african american and middle eastern store clerk. Hilarious. Guess you’ll have to ban sales of any movies featuring things like that.

    Oh and books..  I think youll have to ban probably like 50% of books that we now call ‘classics’ since MANY of them feature negative stereotypes for foreigners, especially non whites. 

     

    In terms of bad language…

    Ok.. err.. youll probably have to ban every movie ever in existence with a 12 or greater rating. Hell even some PG movies feature bad language. Guess we should only allow U rated movies from now on. 

    Again.. books.. bad language… err ok..  same story.. at least bookstores could have an easier time reccommending books as you’d have to reduce their stock by about 75%.

  33. 0
    ElfyEikal says:

    Well, it would have been bad if you look at it in the Resident Evil 5 perspective. having a White Man gunning down Black Man. but its a shame Politician is not looking at it seriously. so for short. if he is thrown into a real life situation involving a Virus outbreak. will he be going. "i am not going to shoot you because i believe in Racial Harmony!" and getting himself bitten to death? i don’t think any sane person would think of that. Instead we can actually rely on Resident Evil 5 to teach us about what a Virus Outbreak would cause to Society.

    P.S damn! i can’t miss out the fun in here! i am new. nice to meet you all! and i am young enough to be concentrating on getting Laid instead of doing Politics! but this is TOO FUN TO MISS. lol

    Vitality Before Violence

  34. 0
    Vinzent says:

    I suppose this means that there can never be a Snoop Dog game rated E, even if Snoop Dog wants to lend his star-power to a math-education game.

    This bill would be a lot less silly if there weren’t so many famous people playing up their stereotypes to begin with. 

  35. 0
    BrandonL337 says:

    I think it’s good sarcasm

    There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

  36. 0
    Beacon80 says:

    I was subbing in a class, where some of the students kept making comments suggesting I was gay (I refused to comment on this, telling that it wasn’t an appropriate conversation, nor was it relevant.  They probably think that I am in fact gay, but that doesn’t bother me) and that I was a white supremecist (I refused to let that one pass).  When one of the kids asked me if white kids gave me less problems, I was tempted to say "Yes, but only because they never accuse me of racism," but I decided to go for a more straight answer and just told him "No".

  37. 0
    sortableturnip says:

    Hockey is racist…they have all those white hockey players hitting a black puck…

    Bowling is reverse racist all those multi-colored balls knocking down the white pins…

  38. 0
    Zen says:

    I found the comment funny myself. @ EZK: Laugh Appreciated.  And from what I have learned from the MULTIPLE times I have been accused of being racist ONLY because I was WHITE (anyone see the irony in that?) is that it doesn’t matter what you say or do, someone will find a way to blame you for something even if you had nothing to do with it.

    Zen aka Jeremy Powers
    Panama City, Fl.

  39. 0
    Geoff says:

    Huh, he hasn’t accused you of being a simple-minded Bible thumper yet.  Guess he needs another cup of coffee before jumping into religious trolling.

    Hey, for what it’s worth I chuckled.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  40. 0
    Derovius says:

     No, peoples dislikes are a matter of personal taste. And until we live in a Demolition Man-esque world where there are morality statutes and machines that kiss your ass for money, thats how its going to stay.

  41. 0
    finaleve says:

    The whole RE5 controversy, well i can understand that shooting a bunch of black people can be considered racism, but there is a ton of depth to that…if they call RE5 out, why wasn’t RE4 called.  That was the biggest reason i think most gamers had.

    …but racism to me has become a sham, but that whole belief isn’t meant for here.

  42. 0
    KayleL says:

    Well, you can’t really rate racism. The perfect example is the RE5 controversy. Even though us gamers don’t see why it’s racist, it’s obvious that some people do.

  43. 0
    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Ah, I see.

    I asked because one of the villains in the comic is named "Mynd" so I figured it probably wasn’t a coincidence.

    Thanks for clearing it up.

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  44. 0
    barra_sadei says:

    Man, you’re really messed up…

    If you simplify everything down to that, then, yes, you’re right. People vote the highly charismatic (but lacking any common sense whatsoever) into office. These people, in turn, act on our behalf.

    But, technically, we’re not a democracy. We’re a Democratic Republic, because we vote (Democracy) for the people to represent us (Republic). And although that representative represents all the people of an area, it doens’t mean that everyone he or she represents voted for them. Also, there’s the fact that even those who are too young to vote, to voice their opinion, are also represented by them.

    So, when you simplify everything down to the most basic statement, you’re right. But only a fool follows such a statement.

    The problem, however, lies in the fact that there’s more than one party, you could say, as the "backing up my own side" in politics is not unique to the United States. The biggest difference from the party system in the United States to, say, the UK is the number of parties that are represented. And, with that, comes the biggest difference in the politics within politics: having majority (US) versus having plurality (UK).

    Now, even with that aside, it’s impossible for any representative to accurately represent their region, because they have to, in turn, represent people that didn’t vote for them, as well as people that didn’t vote, can’t vote, or just have different views and opinions.

    On a national level, things get more complicated. Senators represent their state as a whole. Strategies and tactics are used. Dirty tricks are pulled and bargains are made.

    I’m 18. I didn’t elect Bush, nor would I if I had the ability to. I didn’t vote Bush in for a second term, because I was only 14. I voted for Obama, because I felt as though that he could do the right things.

    And here in lies your second oversimplification: the failure of democracy is "the fault of the people."

    Firstly, if you really are Canadian, I wouldn’t be talking if I were you (yeah, I can use Google, you know; I have Asperger’s Syndrome, not a servere learning disability). Do you know how many things need to be done in order to pass a law? I mean, it can just not gain enough ground, fail in the end, get pigeonholed, vetoed, or effectively expire (in which case the bill has to go through the entire process all over again). And that’s simplifying it as much as I can without leading to any misunderstandings.

    You want to talk about the government? Give me your best shot. Sure, I’m only a college freshman who took AP Government & Politics, but, so far, I’ve listed more reasons on why any plain individual is not accountable for a politician’s failure to "do the right thing" (since (without delving into illegal amtters) it’s a matter of opinion, there really is no "right" thing) more times than you’ve said "douche," "fool," "Canada," and "moose" combined.

    If you want to be a troll, at least try to be a good one. Do some research, because, so far, you seem to be the fool.

  45. 0
    Derovius says:

     You implying that your government is not an extension of its people? You vote in fools, they do their dance, and you refuse to take responsibility. Such is one of the downsides of a democracy, its failure is the fault of the people.

  46. 0
    barra_sadei says:

    So, first you insult the American government, and then you propose a method commonly used in the American government (as well as any other democratic government) to further your point. In addition, what is this "we" you speak of? The very Americans you’re insulting?

    For a troll, you’re an idiot.

  47. 0
    Derovius says:

     Meeses are mighty beasts, slayers of men you could say. If you’re going 100 kph in your skidoo and hit a moose, you’re dead. Maybe someone should engineer us up a moose catcher.

  48. 0
    nighstalker160 says:

    Technically, "North American" has to refer to everything from Canada all the way down to Panama. Those are all part of the "North American" continent.

    U.S. citizens are called "Americans" because it’s the only word that makes sense.

    "United Statesian?" Nah doesn’t soundright.

  49. 0
    Derovius says:

     No, Americans are from the United States of America. North Americans are both the aforementioned people plus Canada. Maybe even Mexico, given they are part of NAFTA, but that may just be a technicality.

  50. 0
    MartyB says:

     Don’t give us Canadians a bad name…  

    and BTW, American refers to "North America", thus Canada is included into it.

    Just over time ppl got stupid and refers the US as americans, ignoring the rest of us.

     

    and Canada has it’s own problems, if you would leave your computer once in a while you’ll notice.

    like Global warming melting our igloos…

     

  51. 0
    Geoff says:

    "A moose bit my sister once…"

    No really!  She was carving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge – her brother-in-law – an Oslo dentist and start of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink…

    I see what you did there. :)

    Took me longer than it should have to find that.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  52. 0
    barra_sadei says:

    Congratulations on your recent acquisition of a new television set! It must get lovely reception in Canada… Ah, Canada. I want to go there to see the lovely lakes, and to try out that wonderful telephone system I’ve heard so much about. Mostly, though, I want to see the wilderness, and the many interesting animals that Canada has to offer, including the majestic moose. Mind you, however, that moose bites can be pretty nasty, so handle your moose-antenna with care. I say this because a moose bit my sister once…

  53. 0
    Geoff says:

    Please, Dero is just a troll and not even a very good one.  Logic and reason will be ignored in favor of flame-bait.  Either starve him or poke fun, but don’t bother feeding him.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  54. 0
    nighstalker160 says:

    So what you’re saying is that there is ZERO poverty in Canada? Not a single homeless person or hungry person? No Canadian citizen goes wanting right?

    Face it, America hardly has a monopoly of poverty.

  55. 0
    Derovius says:

     Leave what? Oh, thats right, the internet is American. There is absolutely no chance my igloo up here in Canada could have internet. Hell, I only recently got television when I properly aligned my moose.

     Douche.

  56. 0
    BrandonL337 says:

    Oh wait, you’re Americans: the poor and desperate are the lynchpin that keeps your little world from spinning off into oblivion.

    only for conservatives, I and the rest of the liberal majority want economic justice and single payer healthcare and to end the war

    There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

  57. 0
    Geoff says:

    Decent, though far from the best "your nation sucks" troll I’ve seen.  I’m sure you’ll get a few bites though.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  58. 0
    Derovius says:

     Banning racist and profane games does not solve the poverty issue. Maybe if you spent the money you’re going to waste on this bill on social programs. Hell, if you stop warring with innocent nations, you just might have enough for a national healthcare system.

     Oh wait, you’re Americans: the poor and desperate are the lynchpin that keeps your little world from spinning off into oblivion.

  59. 0
    Derovius says:

     I’m guessing they have lowered the standards for AP, seeing as hatred based on ethnicity is still well within the bounds of the definition of racism. The definition of race has surprisingly little to do with subsequent racism.

  60. 0
    barra_sadei says:

    It’s more than minor stuff. I’ve been beaten up by a group of african americans, and what did they get? 1 day of in-school suspension, the same as myself because they claimed that I punched one of them several times in the face (who was, interestingly enough, lacking any bruse or mark). Now, if a group of white kids jump an african american, being the same exact situation as what happened to me with the exception of changes to race, what happens? The jumpers get an actual suspenscion, or more likely expelled, not only for beating up a kid, but also under the assumption that it was "racially driven."

    The ironic part about racism is that it’s a type of motive, but it doesn’t apply to everyone. The only way to live in a truly "liberated" (for lack of a better word) world is to just stop making racism something special. It’s not, however, to say as to embrace that people are racist, but as long as there’s a difference between "this is racist, and this isn’t," if the matter of race is a big enough issue to force certain unwritten rules in society, then society cannot, and will not, improve. (At least, that’s what I believe.)

    And maybe I should elaborate more on that comment… It’s less of "you can’t be racist" and more of "no one cares if it’s racist, and no one’s going to do anything about it." 

  61. 0
    Nocturne says:

    Ironically, although true, I don’t think that people can be racist to white people.

    Of course they can, people just tend to get away with more of the minor racism stuff against white people (like insulting slang terms) because of all the, you know… years of slavery and all that other shit we did

    not that no one but white people ever did any that, we just managed to make a global economy out of it for a while and that kind of memory lasts a really long time!

  62. 0
    barra_sadei says:

    Ironically, although true, I don’t think that people can be racist to white people. It’s really strange. Honestly, by technicality, "hispanic" isn’t a race, as races are based on a common (and, therefore, stereotyped) skin color, which means that both the exclusion of hispanic from being an actual classification of race, as well as the classification system of race, are racist.

    … It’s something that I formulated in AP Goverment & Politics last year after learning that hispanic isn’t a real racial classification (rather, it’s ethnic).

    Plus, I’m hispanic (1/2 Cuban, less than 3/8 Irish, less than 1/8 German, and a tiny bit of Navaho (according to my grandfather); strongest race/ethnicity= Cuban), so the fact that every hispanic I ever see in a game not only has a SPanish accent, but is also tanned in skin color (a tan that is barely noticable on myself) is also racist… Then again, I accept that there are stereotypes, and don’t get offended. But someone will.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Huh… Where is Frank voicing his support?

    Truthfully, I agree. My motto on censor-worthy things…

    "If you don’t wanna do it, don’t do it, but DON’T F***ING B**CH ABOUT IT!!!"

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    Geoff says:

    I think it’s just their latest attempt to get around the legal hurdles that have prevented them from getting these laws passed before.

    "Damn, we’ve tried using violence and sex as reasons to ban the sale of games.  What else do we got?"

    "Well, we can try to use the race card."

    "I like it!  Throw something in there along the lines of "protecting the children" and we should be good to go."

     

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    DeepThorn says:

    Exactly…  another politician just doing things to look better instead of figuring out real answers to real problems.  Like spending the money they are wasting on this stuff to install thin-film solar panels and/or wind turbines on their buildings so they can make almost as much energy as the spend, and cost the people less money.

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    zel says:

    Genius that he is, it’s more than likely the parents are buying the game hence this law would do next to nothing.

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    NovaBlack says:

    Besides, you can’t censor the real world. Kids are going to hear various degrees of profanity, racist stereotypes or derogatory language, and/or actions toward a specific group of persons while they are in school.

     

    AGREED.

    Its actually GOOD kids experience it. Because then they can learn how to deal properly with it. You cant wrap kids up in cotton wool. These things happen. Its how you teach them to react to it that is important.

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    Praetorian says:

    It’s sad that because parents don’t do their jobs; we the gamers get these laws pressed on us. I don’t have a problem with a store refusing to sell a 15 year old an M rated game–that’s why the rating system was made.

    The problem I have is the politicians think they need to babysit the american populace.

    Besides, you can’t censor the real world. Kids are going to hear various degrees of profanity, racist stereotypes or derogatory language, and/or actions toward a specific group of persons while they are in school.

    Video games are the least of their worries!

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    Zen says:

    There are people that believe TeleTubies support people being gay…so somebody would whine about that too sadly.  Too many people hating too many things..we couldn’t even be left with Pong because it would either be "too close to bong" or would be a representation of pixel on pixel violence. 

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    MartyB says:

     arrg, i knew this was going to happen…  They’re get one in that does next to nothing, and here they get another one that does a little more, then they’ll be another with a little more, and next thing we know the only game left on the shelves is TeleTubies.

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    Ashton says:

    Racist stereotypes? So if there was a thrifty Jewish character in a game called Gumdrop Land: Fairy’s Reckoning it would still be banned? What about an Asian character who’s good at math? A white guy who’s unable to dance well?

    This is unenforceable on so many levels.

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    barra_sadei says:

    What classifies as a stereotype? Derogatory language? What degrees of profanity, and how will they be classified?

     

    profanity- abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language; the quality or state of being profane; profaneness; irreverence; esp., the use of profane language; blasphemy
    derogatory- tending to lessen the merit or reputation of a person or thing; disparaging; belittling; tending to detract or diminish

    It says "stereotypes" and "towards a specific group of persons," but, in reality, that classifies pretty much ANY joke that’s worth laughing at. If there was a game with an athiest character that says "there is no God" to a religious character, then that can classify is irreverant (disrespectful; critical of what is generally accepted or respected; satirical), as this country is, without a doubt, a very Christian country.

    But it also focuses on "certain rated video games." Wouldn’t any Barbie game further a stereotype of women? Could WWII games be classified as disrespectful, for "digging up the skeletons in the closet?" Would Call of Duty 4 be disrespectful, as it has US Marines fighting terrorists in the Middle East? (A stereotype that still plagues the US, even recently with planes and all.)

    Honestly, any game that has the generic "nerd" character that’s poked fun at would be a stereotype. Hell, you could go as far as to say the that generic nerd stereotype casts a negative light on the Autism Spectrum Disorder known as Asperger’s Syndrome (which I have, and which I could, in theory, be offended by).

    I’m sorry, but my family watched The Sopranos (sp? (I didn’t watch it, as I was "too young")) AND The Wire, both of which could be called into question to further stereotypes, be profane, or include derogatory statements.

    In addition, they, by the wording that I can see so far, also have to protect stereotypes of sexuality. Five bucks says that, if this bill were put into place, Fable, Fable II, and MGS3/4 would be affected in some way because of the existance of homosexuality in these games, DESPITE the fact that they already shouldn’t be sold to minors.

    I’m sorry, but this bill is just wasted time and taxpayer money. If this were happening in my city or state, I’d write to my local politician and explain to him my concerns over the wasted efforts, as there are more important things to focus on other than further placing redunant laws to keep certain games from being bought by minors, despite that they already can’t be bought by minors.

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    TBoneTony says:

    There is allot of problems that need some help in NY, and all these people do is attack videogames and pretend they are doing something about it.

    I think the lot of them need to have a new government that does some work on the REAL problems in NY.

    If they tried to do that for TV shows and Movies, what will be the outcome?

     

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