South Carolina State Senator Robert Ford (D) has introduced a bill that, essentially, seeks to outlaw profanity.
S.56 would prohibit the public utterance or publication of printed material containing profanity. It would also make it illegal to "exhibit or otherwise make available material containing words, language, or actions of a profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or indecent nature."
On the video game front, presumably, this might encompass the F-bombs included not only in Grand Theft Auto IV’s dialogue but in Band of Brothers: Hell’s Highway and various other M-rated games. Movies, books, websites, magazines, music and cable TV, of course, would also be threatened.
The proposal would make the dissemination of such profanity a felony, punishable by five years in jail or a $5,000 fine. Or both.
Via: Slashdot
QI (bastian of debunking myths of this nature) assures us that this is sadly untrue.
The origin of the word Fuck comes from "Fuck You" which was a modified way of saying "Pluck Yew".
Longbows used to be made of Yew wood and were fired by plucking the string with your thumb and middle finger. Captured archers would have their thumb and middle fingers cut off.
To extend only the thumb and middle finger and say "Pluck Yew" to one of these men was a great insult. Fast forward a few hundred years and here we are.
At least that’s what I read a few years ago on the net… yay internet stories!
How the hell do you use those shells?
I thought somebody was going to post lyrics to Korn’s K@#Ø%! song, but you went one step further into the Ross Robinson Mallcore Vault of Shame by mentioning that god awful record.
Class F… how appropriate.
And lol @ buggery and manslaughter.
No, again that all depends on who you ask. A governor from Texas might have a completely different view from a governor of New York.
Many people will argue that it is a religious act, and have called for a new non-religious equivalent called "civil union". Those that call for "civil unions" are most likely religious and want to deny the "sacredness" of marriage to "heathens" such as homosexuals. Religion breeds bigotry.
Sorry, I was a bit rash. It sounded like you thought that since it was the will of the people that rights didn’t matter
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Seriously, chill out. There’s no need for name-calling, and it doesn’t help make your point look level-headed or mature. I’m simply saying that this bill doesn’t violate the separation of church and state. I agree that the Constitution is meant to protect the rights of everyone, not just the majority. Whether or not this bill is a rights violation is for the courts to decide, and they’re doing that now.
I think the government recognizes marriage as more of a legal status than a religious ceremony. As long as the government doesn’t view it as a religious thing, I don’t think it’s violating seperation of church and state.
He’s just saying the bill doesn’t violate seperation of church and state clause that’s it.
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Here’s the episode for those interested
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DCF06CF6FB7E3698
They attacked the idea that people should be concerned about profanity in general. It’s a little hard to explain. Oh and they go after the FCC’s profanity rules.
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Which is why we have things like the ACLU and…
I’m trying to think of a conservative equivalent of the ACLU and I can’t.
The only one I can think of is the NRA but they only protect the 2nd amendment whereas the ACLU deals with more than one amendment.
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Well if you consider marraige a religious ceremony then it does violate it by telling other religions who they can and can’t marry.
If you don’t consider it a religious ceremony then I suppose it doesn’t.
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actually, the phrase "separation between church and state" wasn’t used until US Grant. his two primary focuses of the statement were educational, where he continued to impress upon the people that public schools should not become pulpits, and taxes, where he repeatedly insisted that all churches shouldn’t be tax exempt especially when it came to property taxes.
the crux of the argument was that the church and the government shouldn’t have anything to do with each other. the government shouldn’t give special priveledges to churches and churches shouldn’t press their (morality) issues on the government.
Here are we — and yonder yawns the universe.
When I read than my first thought twas there’s yet another imbecile who’s thinks he can bypass the first amendment. Fucking douche
No, it was to insure gov’t didn’t favor one religion over another
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Do you have any idea what the motherfucking Constitution is for asshole, to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. All those 52% of people can go fuck themselves, they voted to take away the rights of others, to me that is unforgivable. This bill should have never been put on the ballot, you can’t put rights to a vote, people will always vote their prejudices, always.
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
I think my brain did kill itself. all i think about now are monkey and Spongebob Squarepants
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Not trying to be difficult but I said he was "ultra conservative." I was not implying which party he was affillliated with but that his lifestyle was overly conservative in nature. From Merriam-Webster I was using:
Conservative
3a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : traditional b: marked by moderation or caution <a conservative estimate> c: marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or manners
They can question the constitutionality of the bill in general. However, I don’t think they can throw it out simply because it falls very close to what many Christians believe. That’s not what separation of church and state refers to. The government needs a better reason than "Christians voted that way because of their beliefs" to throw a bill out because Christians are allowed to vote however they want based on whatever beliefs and reasons they want just like everyone else. Otherwise we could throw out a bill simply because men voted a certain way or white people voted a certain way. Whether the bill is legal or is a violation of people’s rights is up in the air right now, but it has nothing to do with the fact that many Christians supported the bill.
And how does it violate the seperation of church and state? Is it because many Christians are against gay marriage? By that standard, saying murder is wrong also violate seperation of church and state because the Bible says murder is wrong and Christians believe it is. You need to realize that this is the government enforcing the will of the people and not the government intentionally promoting a religious agenda. The people may have chosen to vote the way they did for religious reasons, but that doesn’t mean they violated the seperation of church and state. Everyone votes the way they do for one reason or another. Their decision may be ruled unconstitutional because it can be viewed as a limitation of other people’s rights, but it won’t be ruled unconstitutional simply because it happens to be the belief of a bunch of religious people.
Voluntary manslaughter mainly refers to homicide committed in the heat of the moment, like if you walk in on your wife having sex with another man and you grab a gun and plug them both. As opposed to murder, where, if you knew about it and schemed up a plot to kill them and make it look like an accident. (premeditation)
"There is no sin except stupidity." – Oscar Wilde
I think it actually does come down to the way in which a word sounds, not necessarily what it means.
Nah, it more comes down to how a word gets used. If it’s used to insult people, then over time it becomes "dirty". Or it has a social stigma attached to it to start with, and people are offended when you ascribe that stigma to them and so usage expands, and the word becomes "dirty" with no one wanting it spoken.
-Gray17
Suprisingly enough, a lot of those that do are not considered Christian to other Christians
It is probably still on the books till someone challenges it.
Though I do recall in NC/SC it is still illegal (and prosecutable) to co-habitate with a member of opposite sex that you are not married to.
Laws like that tend to stick around and get used till someone want to go through the soul draining act of challenging the law till it gets high enough in the courts to get overturned. Takes a lot of work and money for some dedicates soul to do that.
‘Cause I don’t have photoshop at work.
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
Actually it is the government’s place to question voter’s decisions.
The US is a representational democracy, partly to try to keep mob rule in check. Courts are specificly designed to deal with this issue and the legislature also has a duty to protect minorities from a majority vote when it violates protections.
Only the executive branch has no places questioning things (which is why it is ironic that people look to the president as a leader,.. the president is not supposed to lead in the first place, just implement)
And a few Christian and Pagan ones as well.
I think what he’s trying to get at is the amendment itself does not endorse any particular religious belief. While most of the people that supported the measure were using their religious beliefs as the basis for it, the way in which the amendment was written was secular. Were the intentions of it based on religions? I’d have to say yes, but again the language of what was put in place had no specific religious leaning.
Don’t get me wrong here, I have no problem with gay marriage. Hell it’s technically illegal to not grant them the status. But the commentor above you is correct that the amendment does not violate seperation of church and state, in wording anyway. Since the obvious religious intention of is so…well, obvious, I’m expecting it to be overturned.
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
There are also Chrisitan branches that allow gay marriage too.
One of the big reasons seperation of church and state was asked for was to protect one christian denomination from another since people found that when moving between states thier own denomiation was often illegal (or at least had laws passed against how they implemented christianity) in another state that was over 50% another sect. Early baptists are the classic example (in face, I recall the ‘seperationg of chruch and state’ was coined by a baptist minister pleading for protection).
Prop 8 is a classic example of a number of related denominations making sure that other denominations (or other religions, or non-religious entities) can not operate according to thier faith. It is hard to say if it will be overturned on procedural grounds though since california is a bit more democratic then other states.
findlaw had an interesting writeup on the legal issues: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/amar/20090102.html
I remember my Father telling my Grandfather that my Mother was "pregnant again". My Grandfather walked up to my Father, and punched him right in the law, yelling "I don’t care how old you are, you will never use that kind of language in MY house!"
I was 6.
This was 37 years ago.
Not so long ago…
Ah, makes sense. This bill is so absurd that it’s hard to even imagine very many politicians supporting it.
Personally, I never swear, and I aren’t exactly a fan of it, but… wow, this bill is really insane.
If the people want something that violates the seperation of church of state it still violates the seperation of church and should be thrown out. The constitution doesn’t become irrelevant just because 52% of the populace wants something.
And if you assume that marraige is a religious ceremony (which is what everyone keeps telling me) then it’s telling other religions what they can and can’t marry thus imposing on a religious right (you know some buddhist and jewish branches have no problem marrying gays).
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Just like prohibition paved the way for Mafias
Or you can play Hot Dog from Limp Bizkit…40 or so curses every 3:50
I never understood how words could be "dirty". I mean when you really think about it language, and words by associated, are just a string of sounds we invented to convey ideas, concepts, etc. Why are some of these words, that we created, "bad"? Why shouldn’t we say them?
Person 1: "Fuck!"
Person 2: "What did you say?"
Person 1: "Fuck. It’s a word that I came up with today."
Person 2: "I don’t like the way it sounds."
I think it actually does come down to the way in which a word sounds, not necessarily what it means. Take shit for examples. Can you come up with any phrase or use of the word shit where said word could not be replaced with crap or poop without changing the original use? No? Then why is shit dirty, but poop and crap a-ok?
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
Why doesn’t that whiny bitch have Jack Thompson’s head pasted over her own?
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Or have a George Carlin marathon.
If I lived in SC, I would probably protest by looping Carlin’s "7 dirty words" bit over and over again.
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
So it’s still illegal for homosexuals to have sex in SC?
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
The government is enforcing a state religion. Sure, it’s a state religion supported by the majority of the voters in california, but a forced religion nonetheless. The rules of the religion are forced upon people who don’t follow that religion (or at least that particular sect of christianity).
Like the other poster said, he’s a Democrat.
I meet McCain, he was very polite. The local guys I deal with at work are VERY foulmouthed.
And you, good sir, have no idea what the phrase "seperation of church and state" means. The reason the phrase was originally included was to ensure that the government does not tell the church what to do or enforce a state religion. If the people vote based upon their beliefs, you’re stuck. A religion belief is just another kind of belief/opinion; people can vote for whatever they want based on whatever they want. If you don’t agree, you’re either going to have to deal with it or change people’s minds.
*clears throat, takes sip of water* ahem….FUCK YOU, DUMBASS! *flips him off*
Lol, If the bill fails, they should have a public movie festival and play the South Park movie.
His response after the bill is struck down as unconstitutional:
"FUCK!!!"
hell a normal day here at work would incur over ONE MILLION DOLLARS in fines for the office… and we only have about 25-30 people in the office
All that government did was enable criminals to thrive.
All that government did was enable criminals to thrive.
Lol.. Which one of you slackers edited my Wikipedia change to Robert Ford’s Page? Haha
FYI – His email address is on his bio page
No, just three legal challenges were made. It hasn’t been over turned yet. It’s still in the process to be reviewed by a judge.
If he gets his way, then it’s most likely going to be him
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No, it’s still in effect so currently homosexual marriage is against Californian law, there have been several suits filed against the validity of the proposition with Court ruling currently pending.
It’s hard to define as it basically boiled down to idiocy and no comprehension of freedom of speech. but by way of example there was a group who were trying to change all swear words to other mild words to use instead of swearing (whih is just nonesense as then though use those become swear words instead)
The head of the group regulalry used Santa Vacka (i’v no idea how that’s really meant to be spelt) in such a way that it sounded like she was saying Mother Fucker, the words (however they are spelt) meant Holy Cow which is a slight againt the religous beliefs that hold Cows to be sacred, so Penn & Teller summarised that it’s ok to swear as long as it isn’t in your own language or doesn’t insult your own religion.
… He’s a democrat..
Note: I am a liberal, but I just wanted to point out that not all of these First Amendment infringements are sponsored by Neo-Cons. In Fact, many of the game legislation and profanity legislation attempts were perpetrated by Democrats.
As much as I hate to say it, you have to look at these things without the whole Conservatives are Evil mindset. They just think differently than you or I do
Wow, buggery is still on the books? Sounds like something left over like the blue laws.
But back to this law: it definitely sounds like a waste of taxpayer money at the expense of appealing to a fringe group by "protecting the children." I love these attempts at semantic control, definitely feels like New Speak.
"containing words, language, or actions of profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or indecent nature"
Who gets to say what words, language or actions are profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or of an indecent nature?
I gather most of them don’t think much of it, since he has introduced the exact same bill every session since 2003 (at least), and it always dies in committee. The only difference this time is that he apparently got another senator, Knotts, to cosponsor it. The wording doesn’t even change.
What a moron.
Previous bills:
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess117_2007-2008/bills/63.htm
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess116_2005-2006/bills/222.htm
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess115_2003-2004/bills/201.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery
I’m just going to post that link as I was uncertain as to how much detail one should go into in a public area. Law wise in the UK it is no longer used other than in the context of ‘with an animal’
I’m surprised to see it listed at all in US law as I thought it to be a very British term, it’s very common as a swear word here, it’s like Fuck-lite, can be used in all the same ways but isn’t considered to be as rude as the F-word, plus the phrase ‘Damn, Blast and Buggeration!" always makes me giggle.
Has anyone ever met a politician? More importantly, met one off camera? They are just as foul mouthed as the rest of us. But the reality is that the constitution says that you have the right to say whatever you want. This is just another case of an ultra conservative in a position of power who is in fact abusing that power. What is worse is that I’m sure it is hypocritical in nature as well since truly everyone curses at some point.
Out of curiousity, what exactly did they define as supporting "anti-profanity beliefs"?
-Gray17
Err… I believe it’s slang for um… ‘Greek’ style…
You know what I find really entertaining… Is that he fought for HIS Civil Rights back in the 60’s.
Quoted from his Bio page: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/members/bios/0606818109.html
"arrested 73 times during civil rights movement;"
And now, this hypocrite is going to try to REVOKE other people’s civil rights? Seriously?
This would probably also be a good time to remind everyone that Penn and Teller once did a show about profanity, and how the people who support anti-profanity beliefs are nutbars.
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Feh. This bill makes the Demolition Man society look a playground for the clones of Lenny Bruce, Bill Hicks, and Richard Pryor.
That’s the one.
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There was legislation simliar to this in Virginia Beach (no profanity on the beachfront) which incurred a stiff fine for dropping the F-bomb, etc. Challenged in court, and overturned on constitutionality. Why, on earth, would a public servant not have an inkling that this is going to be challenged by the ACLU or another free-speech organization is beyond me. He is basically asking his constitutents if he can blow half a million in legal fees.
To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; credible we must be truthful. Edward R. Murrow
Where if you swear you get fined for it on the spot?
That reminds me, should this pass it’d throw floodgates open. Parental groups would begin watching movies, write down all the offenses they hear, send them in and demand the studio be fined.
Really? No one’s brought up the speech code laws from Demolition Man yet?
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Mother mother fuck. Mother mother fuck fuck. Mother fuck mother fuck.
Noise noise noise.
1 2 1 2 3 4
Noise noise noise.
Smokin weed, smokin weed.
Doin’ coke, drinkin beers.
Drinkin beers, beers beers.
Rollin’ fatties, smokin blunts.
Who smokes the blunts? We smoke the blunts.
Rollin’ blunts and smokin um’
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15 bucks, little man, put that shit in my hand.
If that money doesn’t show then you owe me owe me owe.
My jungle love.
Oh e oh e oh.
I think I wanna know ya know ya … yeah, what.
That’s song is a $50,000 fine!
He has to have some ulterior motive for this, because I refuse to believe that he honestly thinks there is any chance this will become a law. The chances of this passing are so low, there’s actually a negative chance. This bill is reducing the chances of other unrelated bills passing, simply by virtue of existing.
Screw free speech, he’s got other’s children to protect [/sarcasm]
Well let us say that this does get passed and the most common of profanities are banned. What then? Well times and culture will change and people will just move on to saying other things that will soon be considered profanity, regardless of what they are. According to this bill those words would be banned as well and then time goes on and we can no longer use the English language.
That aside, it is impossible to clearly set what is a profanity and what isn’t. What is considered profanity changes, sometimes rather rapidly. During Victorian times it was considered extremely rude and impolite(profanity if you will) to make mention that a woman was pregnant.
Eggy Weggs
Whilst I try to get the thought of Involuntary manslaughter by Buggery out of my mind, how does involuntary manslaughter even compare to threatening a public official. (decide yourselves which is worse!) … and what the hell is voluntary manslaughter? (killing someone whilst drink-driving??)
What the fuck is buggery?
I find this amusing. It’ll never pass.
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Prop 8 get like, overturned a day after it got passed though?
Free speech FTW. This will get struck down.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a bill that made it mandatory to read the bible(And yes, I know, seperation of church and state, but that was violated with Prop 8 here in California).
Fucking hell, yet another fucking bill thats going to fucking fail in fucking court. Fuck
Not fuckin’ gonna happen. It is clearly god-damn unconstitutional.
Funny part is, if you ban profanity, then, in 5 years time, a whole new set of profanities will arise, and you will have to ban those too, thanks to language drift.
25 years ago, saying ‘Bloody Hell!’ in the UK was considered a profanity, nowadays it is simply an expression of surprise.
This is absolutely hilarious. They’d have to arrest my entire high school, just for starters.
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I’m not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I’m not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don’t know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.
What the fuck.
I did a quick look – apparently profanity would be classified as a Class F felony (the least severe kind under SC law.) That would put profanity in the same league as…
-Bribery in an election (first offense)
-Willful tax evasion or tax fraud
-Involuntary manslaughter (!!!)
-Threatening a public official
-Perjury
-Grand larceny
-Buggery
So when do we get the bill that makes it mandatory to eat your vegetables and fine you $150,000 if you don’t brush your teeth before going to bed?
Yeah, when I saw he wants to make it a FELONY to swear, I was like.. Whaaat? I actually did a double take, because I didn’t believe it, at first.
Good Question.
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R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016The is introduced, not passed, right? How do his fellow senators feel about this idiocy?
So. Either he’s so profoundly ignorant that he genuinely believes this law wont get thrown out immediately, or he’s simply trying to waste taxpayer money in an attempt to win over the nutjob vote.
Either way, what a douche.
Ahh Another idiot in office who has not heard of the first amendment.
"The proposal would make the dissemination of such profanity a felony, punishable by five years in jail or a $5,000 fine. Or both."
My brain has once again tried to fucking kill itself after I read that.
Man, fuck this shit. See, this is why South Carolina sucks. It’s all about North Carolina. Seriously though, that’s the biggest problem in the state? It’s not the fact that between North and South Carolina, there’s 4 million illegal immigrants? The terrible education system in parts of SC? No, this is what we should be spending time on.
Goddamn what a bunch of jackassery.
The government is NOT supporting state religion. It’s enforcing the will of the people, and the people have decided against gay marriage. Maybe they decided that way because of religious beliefs, maybe not; it’s irrelevant either way. The government is enforcing the people’s decision, and it’s not the government’s place to question why people made that decision. People are allowed to vote based on whatever they want, and some of them will choose to vote based on their personal moral beliefs. Go complain to the people who voted against it; the government was just doing its job by enforcing the will of the people regardless of their reasons.
Not only is it unconstitutional under the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of speech, it is also unenforcable.
That being said, the shitfucker that authored the bill can go fuck himself.
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Actually thats what he Told Cosby to do, not just in reference.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
As the late great Richard Pryor said in reference to Bill Cosby wanting commedian "role models" to stop saying the F word ("Floobity Flibbity" as he called it), "…he can have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up".
I’m talking the legal definition.
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Check the dictionary
It ain’t gonna pass, CAUSE THE MOTHA FUCKIN 1st AMENDMENT BITCH!
I find your opinion as shallow as a puddle, and as well thought out as an inflatable dart board.
Some people just grow up around people who swear and to them the swear words are nothing special. I used to live in a section of New England where people used ‘hell’ all the time and then I moved to a section of North Carolina where they consider hell a swear word. I uttered in school that it was hot as hell out and I got in some trouble.
Also sometimes you just can’t express in non profane ways your exact feelings. You can go on and on about your general distate for someone but you can express all that and more by just calling them a c*nt.
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Let’s see SC is facing a huge budget deficit this year, the Gov of SC is cutting back on education and law enforcement. Now the Gov of SC isn’t dumb even if this were to some how pass the state legislature, there is no way he’d sign it. This is an expensive court battle waiting to happen. I can’t see him telling the SC Attorney General to cut his budget but at the same time defending this.
I must admit I kinda like the basis of this proposed law. I’ve never been a fan of profanity – if you can’t figure out a way to make people know how angry you are, you need to go back to school and learn some useful English words.
Of course there’s a HUGE problem with it – who gets to decide what is "profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or indecent"?
This will never pass. There’s no story here. Move along, move along.
As the disconnect between society grows banning open thought is needed for its contenuied survival……
Life is profane either deal with it or ban it…..
Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes
of transportation of story and thought, to take them from
society and you create a society of children and nannys.
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"exhibit or otherwise make available material containing words, language, or actions of a profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or indecent nature."
oh shit.
the world would end, can’t EXHIBIT?
means no sex!
Obscenity is not swearing. It’s a different legal matter.
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Whatever, considering Obscenities are already an unprotected form of speech
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I’ll say what I want when I want where I want protected under the constitution, and if I cannot exercise my first amendment rights I will exercise my second amendment rights, and possibly go beyond what is allowed by the second amendment until my first amendment rights are secure.
The scary part of this is I’m in Oklahoma and I feel this way. South carolina is a confederate state that succeeded from the union once not too long ago over their rights being violated. I can’t imagine what kind of shitstorm this guy kicked up.
No it’s worse than that.
You see people swear all the time and if you can make a law that criminalizes something nearly everyone does, then you can throw in jail anyone you want.
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Anyone besides me notice that the response to a law against profanity is a nuclear barrage of profanity? I like it.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
That would be $5,000 per state employee, and they’d all be felons.
Yay stupidity!
"That’s not ironic. That’s justice."
You hell is he to say what constitutes profanity and what isn’t. fucking bastard needs to just shut the hell up. little shit like this bastard need to get the shit beat out of them. what is so appealing about a fucking nanny state any way.
anyone living in SC should go to the capitol with protest signs that say "Fuck Your Censorship"
Here are we — and yonder yawns the universe.
Someone please tell me this is a joke. This is why now I hate most politicians and will be glad when the current generation in office croaks from old age or cancer. It’s also sad that despite every court ruling, these idiots continue to push for nanny state bullshit like this. I don’t care if this is a republican which I am as well, he needs to be ousted from his spot because he is unfit to serve for introducing crap like this.
Holy shit. Hasn’t this cocksucker read the motherfucking constitution? Only a fucking cunt would make cussing a felony. This pisses me off. This guy deserves a punch to the tits.
Let’s see… Okay, got all seven.
"That’s not ironic. That’s justice."
If you outlaw profanity only outlaws will be able to tell you to go screw yourself.
Why must it be my party that’s always trying to do this?
well, not in SC so didn’t and couldn’t vote for him anyway, so fuck him
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
How the FUCK(ba dum pish) is this guy still in office?
This has got to be the dumbest bill I have ever seen. What. The. Hell.
Is the entire world going insane!??!
Only by letting strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves.
Some may consider the Confederate Flag flying over the South Carolina statehouse ‘profane’.
So does that mean they will take that down too?
I got to thinking at work, where we operate a very very blue room…maybe this is how he intends to help the government balance the budget?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g
Just thought I’d toss this out there…
Praetorian
"I’ve been told I’m the resident skeptic, but I wouldn’t believe that."
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Our UK government may have a hard-on for trying to be a nanny-state, but even they wouldn’t be stupid enough to try something like this.
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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.
Going to be a very intresting evening on the Colbert Report tonight. Isn’t he FROM south Carolina?
Um… WHAT? Is he actually expecting this to work?
Truth is INDEED stranger than fiction…
um, by trying to outlaw profanity, they’re trying to outlaw freedom of speech?
What a fucking asshole trying to pass a piece of shit bill like this. You can’t do something that fucking stupid because it goes against the 1st ammendment.
When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?
I don’t even really see how they could enforce a bill like this.
That guy seems like a fucking asshole.
*sad* We lost a great man last year
Many thanks
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The Seven Dirty Words you can’t say in South Carolina
Hey quick question are all of these words going to be banned?
(wonders is there’s a way to imbed video in the comments)
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/shudders
Ladies and gentlemen!
Introducing the Chocolate Starfish!
and the Hotdog Flavored Water
Bring it on!
Get the fuck up!
Yeah!
Check, one, two
Listen up, listen up!
Here we go
It’s a fucked up world
A fucked up place
Everybody’s judged by their fucked up face
Fucked up dreams
Fucked up life
A fucked up kid
With a fucked up knife
Fucked up moms
And fucked up dads
It’s a fucked up a cop
With a fucked up badge
Fucked up job
With fucked up pay
And a fucked up boss
Is a fucked up pain
Fucked up press
And fucked up lies
Well, Lethal’s in the back
With the fact of the fires
Hey, it’s on
Everybody knows it’s on
Hey, it’s on
Everybody knows it’s on
Ain’t it a shame that you can’t say "Fuck"
Fuck’s just a word
And it’s all fucked up
Like a fucked up punk
With a fucked up mouth
A nine inch nail
I’ll get knocked the fuck out
Fucked up aids
From fucked up sex
Fake ass titties
On a fucked up chest
We’re all fucked up
So whatcha wanna do?
We fucked up me
And fucked up you
You wanna fuck me like an animal
You’d like to burn me on the inside
You like to think that I’m a perfect drug
Just know that nothing you do
Will bring you closer to me
Ain’t life a bitch?
A fucked up bitch
A fucked up sore with a fucked up stitch
A fucked up head
Is a fucked up shame
Swinging on my nuts
Is a fucked up game
Jealousy filling up a fucked up mind
It’s real fucked up
Like a fucked up crime
If I say "Fuck", two more times
That’s forty six "Fucks" in this fucked up rhyme
It’s on
Everybody knows it’s on
Hey, it’s on
Everybody knows it’s on
You wanna fuck me like an animal
You’d like to burn me on the inside
You like to think that I’m a perfect drug
Just know that nothing you do
Will bring you closer to me
Hooo Haaa Haaaw!
Listen up baby
You.. can’t.. bring.. me.. (bring me).. down
I.. don’t.. think.. so
I don’t want some
You.. better.. check.. your.. (check it).. self
Before.. you.. wreck.. your.. self
Kiss.. my.. star.. fish
My.. choco.. late.. Starfish.. punk
Kiss.. my.. star.. fish
My.. choco.. late.. Starfish.. punk
You wanna fuck me like an animal
You’d like to burn me on the inside
You like to think that I’m a perfect drug
Just know that nothing you do
Will bring you closer to me
Such is the current state of the American prison system. Hooray war on drugs!
A funny thing about "Belgium" is that it’s "fuck" in the British version. Frankly, I think Belgium is funnier, so we in the US got the better version.
Kumquat!
"Ahh!! Cursing! Cursing! Cover their ears! Protect the children! PROTECT THE CHILDREN!! Arrest that person, officer! He was cursing in front of those poor, innocent children! Arrest and fine them for everything they own!"
I do wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that bill. Y’know, so I can stay away from it. And yes, who would support the bill, if it were to be passed. You know each state has a nonsense law, that is not really enforced. But, it is something really stupid.
I imagine if the bill were passed and became enforced, the jails would be so full, and with no room for the actual criminals.
– Warren Lewis
R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016We have freedom of information, and that includes the information to build just about anything we want as far as weaponry goes.
While I don’t know how true this story is, it’s pretty much an example of what we COULD do, lol.
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
An anti-profanity measure on websites can be countered with a well-designed Greasemonkey script.
Remember, they may be able to tell us what we put on the servers but, not what the browsers re-interpret back to us in our own computers!
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And then having it punishible by the kid being sent to a federal prison with murderers.
"That’s not ironic. That’s justice."
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2920463
So, they don’t even have to pretend to abide by the Constitution or Free Speech anymore. Interesting.
I think Senator Ford should be impeached for not only wasting taxpayer money and legislation time, but also for completely ignoring civil rights.
It’s not Band of Brothers: Hells Highway Dennis it’s Brothers in Arms: Hells highway; Band of Brother was the History Chanel Documentry using footage from the first game
plz fix this.
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Would agree with GoodRobotUs
Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!
Motion seconded and carried
Damn! You beat me to it!
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Well, he can fuck off for a start.
It’s about the same as a kdi taking another kid’s toy car and getting charged with Grand theft auto.
"punishable by five years in jail or a $5,000 fine. Or both."
Anyone else think this violates the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the 8th amendment? It’s possible it doesn’t I’m no legal expert.
But it’s not like this asshole gives a shit about the Constitution.
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Only 100K? Fuck that shit! Lets get 200K at least people! *Digs up "Freedon of Speech" by Ice-T".
Freedom of Speech, that’s some motherfuckin’ bullshit
You say the wrong thing, they’ll lock your ass up quick
The FCC says "Profanity – No Airplay"?
They can suck my dick while I take a shit all day
Think I give a fuck about some silly bitch named Gore?
Yo PMRC, here we go, raw
Yo Tip, what’s the matter? You ain’t gettin’ no dick?
You’re bitchin’ about rock’n’roll, that’s censorship, dumb bitch
The Constitution says we all got a right to speak
Say what we want Tip, your argument is weak
Censor records, TV, school books too
And who decides what’s right to hear? You?
Hey PMRC, you stupid fuckin’ assholes
The sticker on the record is what makes ’em sell gold
Can’t you see, you alcoholic idiots
The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get
[Verse 2]
[You have the right to remain silent]
Fuck that right! I want the right to talk
I want the right to speak, I want the right to walk
Where I wanna, yell and I’m gonna
Tell and rebel every time I’m on a
Microphone on the stage cold illin’
The knowledge I drop will be heard by millions
We ain’t the problems, we ain’t the villains
It’s the suckers deprivin’ the truth from our children
You can’t hide the fact, Jack
There’s violence in the streets every day, any fool can recognise that
But you try to lie and lie
And say America’s some motherfuckin’ apple pie
Yo, you gotta be high to believe that
You’re gonna change the world by a sticker on a record sleeve
Cos once you take away my right to speak
Everybody in the world’s up shit creek
[Verse 3]
Let me tell you about down south
Where a motherfucker might as well not even have a mouth
Columbus, Georgia, said they’d lock me up
If I got on the stage in my show and said "Fuck"
So I thought for a minute and said "No,
I wasn’t even gonna do a damned show"
Cos for me to change my words from my rhymes
Is never gonna happen cos there’s no sell outs on mine
But I vowed to get those motherfuckers one day
They even arrested Bobby Brown and Cool J
Yo, they got their’s comin’, cos I’m mad and I’m gunnin’
Homeboys, and there’s no runnin’
I’m gonna tell you how I feel about you
No bull, no lies, no slack, just straight fact
Columbus, Georgia, you can suck my dick
You ain’t nothin’ but a piece of fuckin’ shit on the damned map
[Verse 4]
Freedom of Speech, let ’em take it from me
Next they’ll take it from you, then what you gonna do?
Let ’em censor books, let ’em censor art
PMRC, this is where the witch hunt starts
You’ll censor what we see, we read, we hear, we learn
The books will burn
You better think it out
We should be able to say anything, our lungs were meant to shout
Say what we feel, yell out what’s real
Even though it may not bring mass appeal
Your opinion is yours, my opinion is mine
If you don’t like what I’m sayin’? Fine
But don’t close it, always keep an open mind
A man who fails to listen is blind
We only got one right left in the world today
Let me have it or throw The Constitution away
[Outro (Jello Biafra)]
What they’re trying to do with radio, with this, uh, McCarron-Walter
Act and a lot of other ways, is start by saying that they’re
protecting the public from wicked rock bands, or girlie magazines, or
whatever. But, if you follow the chain of dominoes that falls down,
what they’re really trying to do is shut off our access to information
itself.
If they can’t do it by law they know there’s other ways to do it.
Probably get cut, but it fits!
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Ah, a giant waste of time -AND- a tempest in a teapot, all in one little unconstutional clusterfuck bill. (Notice that we’re up to about 100k worth of fines on this page alone!)
" prohibit the public utterance or publication of printed material containing profanity."
When asked how this bill doesn’t trample on free press or free speech the senator just stared blankly and said ‘since when do those things matter?’
Now let us all join hands and send a message to Robert Ford.
FUCK YOU!
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Yaaay! Circus!
Ah, the redneck-whose-daughter-ran-away-with-her-uncle-to-have-an-incestuous-relationship-in-the -circus-demographic
Either someone that’s way too religious, or someone that reeeeaaaally wanted biological grandchildren from their sons.
-Gray17
Someone who doesn’t approve homosexuality, s’what I based this married man off of. Sorry!
Amy Levandoski
I’d love to hear what Albert Ellis, founder of Rational Emotive Behavioral therapy, would say about this kind of garbage. This is a guy who in therapy would often call out his clients for their bs in no uncertain terms. Hell one of his favorite self made words is "musterbation" and he made songs for his clients to sing like this…
LET’S LEAVE THE OLD FOLKS AT HOME!
(Old Folks at Home by Stephen Foster)
Let us suppose my goddamned Mother
Filled me with pap.
I listened and I let her smother
And carry on her crap!
Let us suppose my crazy father
called me a shit.
I heard it and I let it bother
And I still do my bit!
Sure my childhood was confining
Full of lousy strokes.
Now I am still depressed and whining
Far from my goddamned folks!
Though my past was rather stinking,
I’m now free to roam.
So let me change my nutty thinking
And leave the old folks at home!
If it was a crime back then he would have been serving life.
the sad thing is, if he’d done his history checkup, they’ve tried to ban things like that for YEARS in the U.S.
that, condoms, pre-marital sex, masturbation, pornography, and anything else that the church and stuckup prudes find offensive to their little minority group.
i watched a nice little documentary on it years ago, and frankly it didn’t suprise me one bit, but it also obviously never worked back then, and i doubt it’ll work now.
FUCK THAT.
Just one? I think he wins OVER 9000 Internets!
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"Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon
I believe that Carlin’s poetry is really the only correct response to this
rat shit, bat shit, dirty old twat, 69 ass holes tied in a knot, hooray lizard shit, fuck.
I would hope that the judge that strikes this as unconstitutional would riddle the document with profanity.
Or, if he choses another path, he could just write at the bottom of the bill "F*&^ this!"
A law against profanity is itself going too far, but a FELONY? This is one of those moments where a strong, four-letter words are best used.
It’s a scary thing to think that a government official would forget the specifics of the Constitution, even at the state legislative level. That’s just fucking ignorant.
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Haha, I want to see them try to censor a websites profanity to that level. That will be the day I become a militant group leader.
On a chan site I was reading about England slowly taking away people’s rights, and that they do not have guns to fight their government if they get out of hand. They were saying that in the US we could at least put up a fight. We may have guns, but they would have missiles… I don’t trust politicians enough to deal with that. I don’t own a gun, but support ownership since research has shown no affect on crime, if it isn’t a gun, it is a knife or other weapon. Kind of like prostitution… if it is legalized then they can track prostitutes with STDs, and take care of slave sluts, but without legalization, it makes it impossible to manage. (It is the oldest occupation in the world, come on.)
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Well, that is going to get an immediate constitutional challenge.
Welcome to Waste the Taxpayer’s Money, South Carolina.
Either that, or they replace it frequently.
– Warren Lewis
R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016With how many bills it’s been used on, the "Unconstituional" stamp must be worn to a nub by now.
Belgium!
"Oh fiddlesticks! My car was stolen again!"
"Fiddlesticks You! ..wait…that don’t sound right.."
"What do you mean I can’t say ‘fiddlesticks’ anymore? It’s the new f-word? And you are going to pass a bill making it illigal to say in public, like that other F-word? You mean to say, everytime someone replaces the word with another, it is going to be banned as well?"
…Oh wait..right..the bill won’t pass to begin with. For one the term is too vague. One person might find one word profane, while another would not. As far as the videogame angle goes, The games would be played in private, not public. Thats like the bill saying that it would ban profanity. Even in other people’s homes.
– Warren Lewis
R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016Who would you use profanity when your sons are gay?
That is the most unrealistic bill ever. What’re you going to say when your house is in foreclosure, your wife walks out on you, find out you three sons are gay and your only daughter ran off to join the circus to have an incest love affair with her uncle?
"Oh fiddlesticks!" is not going to work, seriously. Everyone cusses profanity once in a while, some more then others. Not only that but cussing adds some realism to video games, too. "Poopie Head" does not work as an insult from one drug dealer to another. This bill isn’t going to survive anywhere.
Amy Levandoski
you win the internet.
So, if you go to jail for swearing, and you swear again *while* you’re in jail, do you get your sentence extended? Like if you get incarcerated for murder and you kill someone while you’re there?
God this is retarded. Everybody swears. They’d have to build a big wall around the whole state and turn it into a giant prison. Then they’d have to talk Kurt Russell into going in to rescue the President when his plane crashes over it.
Yes, I believe the First Amendment wil drop a ‘F-Bomb’ on that plan. Profanity is bad speech. But, it is still speech.
– Warren Lewis
R.i.P GamePolitics 2005-2016Theres no wya better to put it than to tell this guy to F*ck OFF!
but yeah, that bill isn’t getting past free speech, not in a million years.
Yeah, no way will that survive in court!
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