Live Blog: Jack Thompson Tells Utah Conservative Group of Plans to Legislate Games

A live blog of Jack Thompson’s Saturday morning keynote address to the ultra-conservative Utah Eagle Forum has been published at Mormon Bloggers.

Judging by the post, Thompson delivered his standard anti-video game rap. The disbarred attorney apparently also laid out his latest strategy to legislate games:

The impact of aggressive, violent, and pornographic videos simply can’t be denied. Jack cited case after case in which people like a young Devin, immersed in things like Theft in the City, went home and shot his parents, saying to the police,  something to this effect: “Everybody has to die, just like in video games.”


The man who killed on Trolley Square, said Jack Thompson, was apparently training on Theft in the City or something similar.  One part of that violent video illustrates an individual going to a high point in a mall and shooting in random people he doesn’t know.  This training ground has made victims in Columbine, in Miami, in  Paduka [sic], and needs to stop here.


Jack Thompson– attorney, crusader in fighting the entertainment media’s marketing of violent materials to minors, and  author of Out of Harm’s Way–is supportive of an upcoming a bill, which if drafted properly and put in the hopper here in Utah will stop the sale of these games to minors.


Currently, the Fraud and Deceptive Trade Pact Act says that if you sell a product and misrepresent what it does or is, it is simply fraudulent.  Walmart, Target, Best Buy assert in corporate sites, statements, and press releases that they will not sell a mature-rated violent to a minor.  Age verification software, though available through Ideology and other programs, are dismissed by these companies.  This is something we can enforce.


If you’d like to know more, check with Eagle Forum.  If you are informed and are willing to make a call, please let your legislators know that this bill should be passed.

GP: Couple of points here… The blogger characterizes Thompson as an attorney, but as GamePolitics readers know, he was disbarred for life by the Florida Supreme Court in October. As we pointed out last week, the agenda for the Utah Eagle Forum event also lists him as an attorney. At this time it is unknown whether the audience for Thompson’s keynote address was told of his permanently disbarred status. If so, the blogger makes no reference to it.

Clearly unfamiliar with video game issues, the live blogger also gets a few of the details wrong. But that’s not unexpected as Thompson was apparently going on about several cases in which he blames video games for violent crimes. The "Devin" mentioned by the blogger, for example, would be Devin Moore, who killed two police officers and a dispatcher in Alabama, not his parents.

Most amusingly, "Theft in the City" would be Grand Theft Auto, of course.

UPDATE: In relation to Thompson’s scheme to legislate games in Utah, the question now becomes whether the disbarred attorney has any state legislators on board. We would suspect that Gayle Ruzicka, the politically influential president of the Utah Eagle Forum and an ally of Thompson’s, will be able to persuade someone in the legislature to introduce Thompson’s bill.

Could the sponsor end up being one of three Utah legislators who also spoke at the UEF convention? Those would be the controversial Sen. Chris Buttars (R) as well as Reps. Carl Wimmer (R) and Christopher Herrod (R).

UPDATE 2: In its coverage of the UEF convention, the Deseret News makes no mention of the proposed video game legislation, but quotes Thompson’s verbal shot at President-elect Barack Obama:

Outside of social issues, conventioneers and speakers alike expressed concern about the upcoming term of President-elect Barack Obama.


"On Jan. 20 we are entering what I believe will be a time of peril for this country," said speaker Jack Thompson. "And that is Barack Obama."

UPDATE 3: Thompson e-mailed GP to assert that he made his disbarment known to the UEF convention audience:

I told everyone there I was disbarred, and said in my first speech that I was a ‘recovering attorney.’

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  1. 0
    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Ah, I have an idea! We have a PicardPalm smiley over at the Chrono Compendium Forums. I’ll use that in future.

    EDIT: Below is what it looks like. NOTE: Actual size of smiley.


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

  2. 0
    Soulsmith says:

    how do you justify owning a semi/full auto magazine fed rifle? The kind seen and used by most of the worlds military units? What the hell do you hunt with a weapon which fires rounds designed to maim humans? just in case the british invade again?

    I understand using bolt action rifles for hunting. I also understand it is sensible to do background checks and the delay between purchase and collection. But the whole secure storage thing confuses me, if dear little Bobby finds daddys gun in a drawer and it looks like his toy gun only better and takes it out to play, who gets it in the neck when poor Bobby empties his friends skull on the pavement while shouting "bang"? surely not the kid as in this case he wasn’t intending on killing anyone he was just playing. The father? well there appears to be no legal requirement for secure storage so he gets off the hook. how does this console the loved ones of whoever took that accidental round?

    I know this is a purely hypothetical situation but it isn’t that hard to imagine happening. When I grew up I knew where my dad kept his guns (pistols, rifles, shotguns) but something that stopped me from playing with them wasn’t stern words or a chance of a thrashing, no, it was a steel walled cupboard. There are differences between gun safes and gun cupboards, you don’t want to pay $2k for a safe, get a cupboard, sure it won’t stop a determined theif with a grinder, what it will do is make it harder for your family (who btw haven’t undergone the checks that you did to aquire the weapon) to have access these weapons without your knowledge.

    For those cocks who decide to say "but a knife/hammer/axe can be used as a weapon" yes I know but these were not principally designed to be used for the task of dealing death. Also I understand that you give a nut job something that can be used as a weapon, he will find a way of killing/injuring himself and others, there are always accidents, but that doesn’t mean we have to be stupid not to try and limit them happening (not running with scissors, pointing a gun at another person unless you are actually going to intentionally shoot them etc)

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    Kajex says:

    PROTIP: It’s only "Epic" when you go an extra step farther.


    Fail = This legislative push falls over in court.

    Epic Fail = This legistlative push falls in court, and finds him guilty of a crime committed in relation to his efforts, whereby he is sent to jail.

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    Brokenscope says:

    Seriously dude. You contradicted yourself, and most of that post was just…. wrong.

    Just stop really.

    If your really going to argue about guns, you really should learn more about them.

  5. 0
    Brokenscope says:

    Yeah, BATFE doesn’t like it when people do their jobs for them, so they thorw around political weight and people get canned.

    BATFE likes to fuck over gun owners, but doesn’t like it when other people do it. Stangest thing.

  6. 0
    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    "i have seen a double faceplam on the site before."

    Was it Picard with two hands or something like the pic I posted?

    Whichever one it is, I can always find the other.


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    1AgainstTheWorld says:

    Someone (with better programming skills than me) should totally make a game with this title.  And make it completely cartoony and non-violent, just to make these anti-gaming fools wrong in one more way.

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    Austin_Lewis says:

    How does VT play into this at all?  You’re just using that as an idiotic buzzword, which is kind of sick.  Ooh, VT, 9/11, Columbine, Paduca.  VT was the fault of a judge and a psychologist who decided that putting into Cho Seung Hui’s profile that he had been institutionalized wouldn’t be ‘respecting his privacy’ and would hinder him getting into college (you know, that place where he shot people for no good reason), which means NICS was unaware that he shouldn’t own a firearm.  He didn’t use an assault rifle; he used a Glock 17 (pistol) and a Walther P22 (very, very small pistol, firing the weakest round known to man).  He didn’t own an ‘assault weapon’.  Chances are very good he didn’t have the money for one; cheap assault weapons are more expensive than both of his pistols combined.

    Of course, assault weapon is one of those words used by the media to incite a feeling in the people who watch.  It seems a lot scarier than saying semi-automatic gas(or piston) operated box magazine fed rifle.  ‘Assault weapons’ are chambered in rounds like the 5.56, 7.62, 6.8, and occasionally in other rounds (but very rarely).  All of these rounds are smaller and less lethal than rifle rounds like the venerable 30.06, the 338 Lapua, and pretty much any other real rifle round you can think of.

    So what does anyone need a firearm for?  How about hunting?  I’ve hunted bear, all manner of deer and elk, and rabbit, among many other animals.  Most of the time I hunt with a rifle chambered in .308 or 30-06, the 2nd being easily more powerful than those scary ‘assault weapons’.  I also varmint hunt on a friends farm to keep his animals safe from coyote and from gopher holes, and for that I use an AR-15. What about competition?  I love three-gun competition, for which you need a semi automatic rifle with a box-magazine with 20 or more rounds in it, a pistol (I use a  Colt 1911 that would put Big Boss’s to shame) and a shotgun.  What do I do at these competitions?  Shoot paper and metal targets.  What if someone breaks into my house in the night?  I have an MP5, an M14, and two pistols, as well as a mossberg shotgun in my bedroom.  I guarantee that my more powerful guns that you don’t like will be a lot quicker in killing an intruder than the police, who, by the way, don’t even HAVE to assist me. 

    I know what you mean by gun control, that’s why I believe you’re ignorant.  Use the right word; you want to ban much of my right to own a firearm (actually, you want to ban it all).  This ‘more powerful gun’ crap is ignorant as well; many people who dislike firearms don’t know what is more or less powerful.  That semi automatic rifle you hate so much is less powerful than my old Lee-Enfield, which is less powerful than my custom rifles.  The pistol is on the low end of the power and accuracy spectrum.  Of course, I have a sports car, so I shouldn’t have that right?  Because that can get up to 120 with ease, I could kill more people with it I suppose. 

    What use is a more powerful gun?  I don’t know, maybe the fact that I can kill the criminal quickly and go back to sleep while I wait for the cops to take their sweet time?  Once again, just because you can’t conceive of why we should have these weapons, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.  It just shows your myopic view and lack of life experience.  But I’m sure once someone mugs you, you’ll change your tune.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Nah, I miss him, too. Made me laugh a lot.


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    KayleL says:

    I know most crimes are done with hand guns, but we don’t need assault weapons available kind of like what we saw at VT. Personally, I don’t want any civilian having no guns at all, but we aren’t going to see that in a million years, and we all know the criminals are still going to get it no matter what, making things worse, making people need a handgun.

    Why do you need something more powerful? Can you name a situation that a non-military or law enforce could need a more powerful gun without more people going to die. Their aren’t going to be less deaths with more powerful guns at the scene.

    When I say gun control, I mean not allow having a certain gun. I guess I used the wrong words. Yes, every gun is dangerous, but if you have a more powerful gun, it’s means you could kill more people at a time. Really,  what use is a more powerful gun? It doesn’t help the good people, but it does help the criminals.

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    MrKlorox says:

    I agree. I have a feeling that the blogger has no clue what either GTA or Sex in the City actually are, but had heard them before and connected the two via New York City.

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    Zerodash says:


    Liberals are just as guilty of trying to curtail our rights to choose what media/content we consume. 

    The Liberal Nanny/Socialist State = Conservative Theocracy. 

    Both put absolute control of your life, social freedom, economic freedom, and choices in the hands of the government.

    Conservatives seem less likely to deny this, where Liberals get their panties all bunched up when you point out this little "inconvienient truth" to them.  Freedom means more than just anal sex and recreational drugs- it also involves your right to choose media to consume, economic paths to take, and other important facets.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Never fear, he’s been hit with the BanHammer, or so I hear.

    Dennis, can you confirm for us?


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    Glasofruix says:

    "The impact of aggressive, violent, and pornographic videos…"


    I’m pretty sure we can find all of those on Thompson’s hard drive as he sends this stuff along with his court fillings. He’s a living proof of that "impact"

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    magic_taco says:

    Dont forget, Its even easy to see through the BS he gives, But hey, He was a hypocrite in the first place, He does honestly care more for money and attention than his suppossed cause.


    A typical wolf in sheeps clothing.

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    ezbiker555 says:

    Like EZK taught me, Jack is all talk. The fact that I’m 19, and can clearly see that his plan will once again fail is an epic fail for Jack once again. Case in point, his supposid plan wouldn’t make it past anyone because when they realize tha he’s just another nutjob, they’ll trash it.

    Our legal system may be bad sometimes, but it does manage to know the difference between right and wrong espeically when it comes to Jack Thompson.

    Plus I think this is a way for Jack to try and freak us out and clearly, I could laugh in his face all day.


    Also, wasn’t he hating on mormons a while back?

    Add that to the jump ship list which includes

    Jumping from McCain to Obama

    and I forgot what eles he has done to jump ships but who cares? Definitly not me.


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    GoodRobotUs says:

    With regards to ‘Thompsons scheme to regulate games’, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find that it was someone elses’ scheme and Thompson was on board as a ‘Henchman’. Thompson has even been known to use the phrase ‘we’ regarding events that he isn’t even remotely involved in, which implies a vast over-arching conspiracy to ban games 😉

    To summarise, Batman has now, most likely, become Robin.

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    MasterAssassin says:

    As a conservative, the radicals at the Eagle forum DO NOT at all represent my beliefs. These far-right fascist loons are not what true conservatism is about. TRUE conservatism is about letting individuals choose for themselves and keeping the government out of people’s bussiness. Also couldn’t they at least use someone with a little more credibility. Craig Anderson as much as I can’t stand him at least is still a certified psychologist. Also the fact that they would use someone who was disbarred for life for professional misconduct really speaks volumes about this organization.

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    hellfire7885 says:

    IF you were able to post without the moderation it woudl either be deleted or edited ot make you sound like one of their drones, followed by a ban to make a rebuttal impossible.

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    DCOW says:

    yeah, something else I noticed, there’s no comments for that story. When I tried making one, I noticed it needed to be moderated before it got posted. Which tells me that they are trying to squelch speech on that site. I find it hilarious

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    DCOW says:

    "If you’d like to know more, check with Eagle Forum.  If you are informed and are willing to make a call, please let your legislators know that this bill should be passed."

    I found this hilarious. because if you notice, these bills have no problem ever getting pass the legislators. It’s always those pesky judges, you know, remembering the constitution and all.

    But I found JT’s speech entertaining.


    Reference to Devin Moore: check

    Reference to at least one other killing where videogames had barely, if any influence in it: check

    Reference to his Book: check

    Reference to Paduca: Check

    Reference to a law that JT is trying to misuse to charge a retail store: check


    I think if he can’t even get legislation in utah done, he’s screwed.

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    Erik says:

    AE: Okay, I’m going to snip the thread right here as it devolves into nothing more than name calling and arguments on whether posting a facepalm pic constitutes trolling.

    GP, EZK, and I have heard the complaints.  I proposed a compromise today that hopefully will satisfy everyone.  I’m still waiting to hear back from them so until then, everyone just chill.


    1/20/09 – Okay, let’s try this:

    Shadow – You’re welcome to continue posting your facepalm pics if that’s what you feel best communicates what you’re thinking about the topic at hand.  However, kindly keep the size to around 425 x 344 or so at the max.

  23. 0
    Gabriel Celesta says:

    "And countries that don’t have guns ain’t American!"

    To which Lazlow probably sardonically replied, "You know, if more people had guns, there’d be less shootings in this country!"

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    DarkSaber says:

    oH hey, Shadows posting something. What startling insights await. Oh, never mind. He’s just saying facepalm. With a  Star Trek picture. Again.


    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Deamian says:

    An ignorant man blogs about another. How gauche, even for ultra-conservatives…

    Also, maybe it is just a singularity given the mass of information, but whenever I go buy a violent/mature video game or movie at Walmart, the cash-register’s computer always asks the clerk if the customer is at least over 17… even for 13 y.o. products. Wether or not the clerk would bother checking out my age, an age-verification system is in process.

    Not trying to defend Walmart and their despicable (sp!) business ways, but proving ignorant blogger wrong is right. Right?

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    Father Time says:

    Since when was France known for having conservatives? Last I checked they were pretty liberal (especially compared to our country).

    Oh and it’s not regular conservatives so much as the neo-cons just like neo-libs are also annoying.


    Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it’s over they have the same positions they started in.

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    Father Time says:

    Yeah everyone knows those definitions but they really don’t apply to politics.

    For instance: apply the lotion liberally


    Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it’s over they have the same positions they started in.

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    gamegod25 says:

    I’m not surprised that not only did they paint a picture of him as some kind of holy warrior, but they fail mention that he was disbarred for life. After all why would they let something small like facts get in the way of their agenda.

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    cutetei says:

    "A guy dies of blood loss and/or cardiac arrest – a little piece of metal ain’t the problem. Anyway I only use my gun in the safety of my own home or car."

    From GTA 3 I think, hick on the radio (Chatterbox).

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    DraginHikari says:

    The funny thing is the terms liberal and conservative actually have very simple meanings behind them

    Liberal means alot of something

    Converstative means a little of something.

    Everything else added to this is mostly nonsense anyway.

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    Cecil475 says:

    I thought it was funny, and actually it was the first thing to come to mind when reading it, so


    Now, I keep forgetting that the Eagle Forum and the Conservative Elite think of him. And still see him as a lawyer. They must be the few groups of people who think highly of least till they realize what kind of person he really is. Kinda like the NIMF

     – Warren Lewis

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    Austin_Lewis says:

    Your ignorance about ‘gun control’ astounds me.  Number 1, most crimes are committed with a ‘handgun’, one of the reasons why so many cities began legislation with them.  

    Number 2, we have gun control in America.  Before you can buy a firearm, you have to fill out paper work, be checked out by the FBI’s NICS, and be cleared.  Long barreled rifles and shotguns have no waiting period, but pistols often have a wait between purchase and actual ownership of the firearm.  Just because we don’t demand that our citizens who want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights pay 2000 dollars to join a gun club or be forced to buy an equally expensive safe doesn’t mean we don’t have ‘gun control’.

    Today, gun control means something entirely different.  It means banning guns that politicians and simpletons are afraid of.  Any bolt-action rifle is basically a sniper rifle, so we can’t have any of those.  And semi-automatic, magazine-fed rifles, ooh, those are very dangerous too, so no one can own those (except the government, of course).  And since shotguns are so powerful, no one gets to have those.  Oh, while we’re at it, no one can have a pistol because they’re so easily concealed.  And now, you can’t own firearms in America.

    Just because you don’t need anything more powerful than a handgun doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t have a need (or want) for something more powerful.  Go sit in the corner.

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    Father Time says:

    I’ve met a few self-proclaimed conservatives who insist that all that bad stuff was liberal philosophy and that those who limit speech and non-family stuff aren’t true conservatives.

    And still I betcha I can find a liberal who thinks PCism is more of a conservative philosophy blah blah blah.

    It’s why I don’t use those labels because everyone seems to have their own definitions of them.


    Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it’s over they have the same positions they started in.

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    Sukasa says:

    Does anyone else find it interesting how much conservatives talk about wanting smaller government, free speech and free markets and then do a complete hypocritical reversal and say they want more laws and government involvement in whatever conduct that they don’t "agree" with, controlled speech in what they believe is "not-family/christian" and a restricted market on products they don’t like?

    Sure, kids shouldn’t be buying mature rated games.  However, that should be the parents responsibility in what their kids play.  If I have a kid and I feel they can handle a mature game, then that is my choice.  Govenment should be more worried about taking care of trying to figure out how to fix the economy, social securiy, etc.

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    Benji says:

    As far as ‘Theft in the City’ is concerned, he might be deliberately not using the name ‘Grand Theft Auto’ due to the settlement he had a long time ago with T2/R* where he wasn’t allowed to badmouth the companies or their products.  He’s been dancing around that settlement for a long time now but maybe he does realize that standing up in front of a conference and saying that GTA trains kids to be murderers might piss them off and, unlike random press releases on internet forums, might not be so easy to weasel his way out of in court.

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    nightwng2000 says:

    Deceptive Trade Practices

    Instead of "Pact" Act, it should be "Practices" Act.

    At any rate, am I the only one having problems with their color scheme?  Plus, it appears there are no comments on the article?  Surprising.  Unless, they have been censored.


    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as

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    Father Time says:

    Theft in the City, because when you get tired of all the sex in the city then you can steal stuff.

    Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it’s over they have the same positions they started in.

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    PHX Corp says:

    That bill is not going to pass after JT annoyed Mark Shertleff(even though he dosen’t have power to stop the bill, because the Video game bill will fade away, and no loger be a threat)

    about the Attourny bit, just let him go on his spiel, If he Harasses Us again(I wouldn’t Put it past him). He’ll be banned in a heartbeat (and He’ll go back to harassing JAABLOG yet again)

    and if the video game law passes It’ll be defeated in court immeaditly upon the ESA and ECA’s Lawsuit

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    Thing is, it’s not like Grand Theft Auto is a hard name to remember, it’s like saying that rather than ‘Murder’, someone commited ‘Stabbity Shoot Boom’

    It’s just like Thompson though, when you think about it, he managed to annoy the Utah AG, then accuse him of phoning him whilst drunk and basically alienate himself from the entire proceedings, so, as usual, Thompson tries to fool another, more gullible bunch of people into doing his dirty work for him instead.

    I still think something should be done about that whole ‘Attorney’ thing though, I’m sure he’d be quick enough off the mark to point fingers if the situation was reversed, in fact, he’d be writing to all and sundry, reporting it to the FBI and probably dropping a letter off at the Whitehouse for good measure.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    EDIT: Can’t believe I overlooked a spelling error when I made the poster. *facepalm*


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    ‘This training ground has made victims in Columbine, in Miami, in  Paduka [sic], and needs to stop here.’

    I totally misread the meaning of that sentence the first time round…

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    BearDogg-X says:

    I see Thompson told his lies to a group of retards. Pathetic.

    Does anybody else think that the blogger was deliberately changing the names of stuff to keep from getting sued?

    Besides that, the FTC already said via a 2007 report to Congress on the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act(COPPA) that a credit card is a valid age verification method, as a minor’s credit card must be attached to the parent’s account. Plus, Thompson tries to claim that a bank card can’t be used yet a bank card can be used as both a credit card and a debit card.

    Thompson, of course, doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to post his supposedly "constitutionally bullet-proof" bill because even he knows that it isn’t.

    Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

    Proud supporter of the New Orleans Saints, LSU, 1st Amendment; Real American; Hound of Justice; Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always

    Saints(0-3), LSU(3-0)

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    Xveers says:

    Quite true, but also at issue are stores that don’t ask any questions to those whom they sell guns to. A CBC investigation (Canadian news looking into the death of a boy at the hands of a US gun) tracked the same pistol through two or three other violent incidents, including at least one death, before tracking the gun back to the store that sold it. And some more digging revealed that the FBI had ID’d the store as having sold something like 2% or so of all firearms used in crimes in the united states.

    Yeah. One store, 2% of guns used at violent crimes throughout the US came from this one store. Want to bet they got shut down? Smart. When the FBI agents requested to shut the store down due to gross violations, they got their program shut down, and the FBI agents were reassigned and eventualyl dismissed…. I’ll have to dig up the link to the online edition of the show… is on the website somewhere in the 5th estate section…


    Best keep your wits about you: The gears of life are always spinning, and ignorance eventually means you’ll get caught in them.

  44. 0
    Alex says:

    "Guns don’t kill people… I DO!"

    I’m not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I’m not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don’t know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.

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    KayleL says:

    Well, guns and weapons don’t really help. I understand that if we intoduce gun control in American, it won’t help, and would make things worse before it gets better, but people having weapons that can clear a mall of people in a matter of seconds don’t really help either.

    You don’t need anything more powerful then a hand gun. If you against more then one person, or people with more powerful guns, you will lose anyway.

  46. 0
    hayabusa75 says:

    Wikipedia denotes his status as a former attorney, among other things, in the first couple of sentences.

    "There is no sin except stupidity." – Oscar Wilde

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    Chaltab says:

    You know what’s worse? Far left scumbags who don’t understand that violent, dangerous people rather than weapons or media are responsible for violent crimes.

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    Doom90885 says:

    Isn’t it funny how most of these far right folks folks who spend every moment crusading against games, tv etc because of the violent content are the same idiots who make absolutely zero effort in crusading against the actual weapons that shed real blood and take real lives. On the contrary these far right scumbags wanna make it where basically you can have a weapon once you exit the womb. Then when someone is killed in a crime or because someone doesn’t have the mental or emotional maturity to own a weapon and leaves it out where little Timmy can get access to it everyone is BOO HOO! WHAT A TRAGEDY! If that isn’t hypocritical I have no idea what is.

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    JDKJ says:

    The misinformaton grows larger the closer you look. There is no legislation called "the Fraud and Deceptive Trade Pact Act." An Act so called simply does not exist.

    And if the idiot’s talking about federal consumer fraud and deceptive trade practices statutes as regulated by the Federal Trade Commission, then he’s leaving out the "been there, tried that" part of his story. He’s formally complained to the FTC before and repeatedly about T2’s marketing practices, including the use of credit card information as age verification for on-line purchases. I assume the FTC politely told him to go pound sand.


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    Maxpower says:

    You know, it sounds like she’s just blogging what he’s saying…like she just heard that video games caused violence for the first time and that obviously it does because this attorney is citing all the cases where it has. It’s not that she’s ignorant to what’s really going on…it’s that for all she knows this is what’s going on…so these are the people that he reaches out to.

    I’ve alway thought that arguing with him on the website made no sense, simply because almost every one on this site knows that he’s just spouting lies and leaving out key parts of the evidence.

    We’ll never be able to change Jack’s mind, but if we can talk to people like her and show her what the facts are then Jack would truly be powerless.


    "It could have been, should have been worse than you would ever know"

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    PHX Corp says:

    Looks like He’s getting desprate with his lies and utter stupidity, JT is really getting Close to end up into a mental hospitial(currently at the rate he’s going it’s going to happen sooner)

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    TaoJeannes says:

    To quote George Costanza, "It’s not a lie if you believe it."

    Thompson has never admitted fault for anything. Ever. I don’t doubt for a second that he continues to believe his disbarment part of a grand conspiracy against him.

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    HarmlessBunny says:

    According to Deseret News blog comments, he claims he was disbarred because the video game industry and a corrupt lawyer who is involved in a cocaine cartel are responsible for his disbarrment. My thoughts were consistant with, "WTF?! You lying *&^%$#@"

    "As to my disbarment, that was asked for by the video game industry and by a Florida lawyer who has since been indicted by the federal government for laundering money for the Medellin cocaine cartel. I am in the US Supreme Court about all this, and I will get my license back. If you can judge a man by the depravity of his enemies, then I am one heck of a good guy!"


    Jack, jack, jack….lying is bad for you. It slapped you in the face dozens of times. It is going to get worse if you make comments like that. Judging by the depravity you show to your enemies, I bet there is a special place reserved for you….chances are it isn’t in heaven :)

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    Sliver says:

    "The man who killed on Trolley Square, said Jack Thompson, was apparently training on Theft in the City or something similar. "

    Long time GP reader, but I had to finally register to comment on this.

    I own a business that was located in Trolley Square Mall when that shooting happened. My staff and customers were fortunate in not being victims. 30 seconds difference in timing of the events and that would not have been the case. Its took quite some time for things to feel normal again.

    I would love Jack to site any credible source for his statement connecting "Theft in the City", a real game, or anything gaming related, to the Trolley Square shooter, Sulejman Talovic.  Come on Jack, I know you read these. Prove your not an opportunistic liar, using tragic events for your own ego.

    You can’t, because your statement is knowingly false. In fact police specifically stated they found no computers or gaming consoles in his house.

    Its no surprise the Conservative Utah Eagle Forum would be willing to listen to a disbarred hack like Jack Thompson. It lets them conveniently place blame somewhere else. If you really look at the event, the only source of blame it is real world violence, and real world guns.  Talovic came to the US as young refugee from a war torn Bosnia. Whatever he experienced in that real world violence effected him in ways that went unaddressed and unresolved, and his juvenile record showed a history of violence.  Talovic was able to purchase a gun illegally through a pawn shop. 

    So the issue here is should not be about selling violent video games to minors, but about selling guns to violent people.

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    transformergirl says:

    When is that? I thought that it had all ready aired, but then again, I’ve been away from anything remotely fun since classes started up again…

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    hayabusa75 says:

    How can you recover from a permanent disbarment?  That’s like losing both legs and telling people you’re a recovering walker.

    "There is no sin except stupidity." – Oscar Wilde

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    sortableturnip says:

    "On Jan. 20 we are entering what I believe will be a time of peril for this country," said speaker Jack Thompson. "And that is Barack Obama."

    That statement doesn’t paint Jack Thompson as a racist at all…


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    GoodRobotUs says:

    A ‘Recovering Attorney’ does not really make it clear that he was disbarred, and it still makes evident that he made no effort whatsoever to correct the ‘errors’ on the original promotional material.

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    He moves his support around depending on who he thinks he’s going to get the most traction with. He was busy writing smarmy letters to Palin whilst, at the same time, bragging about how he worked with Hilary Clinton, her arch-rival, as it were, regarding Hot Coffee, neither Republicans nor Democrats particuarly like flip-floppers, and Thompson is the ultimate flip-flopper.

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    GoodRobotUs says:

    I think the fact that 250 people attended out of a State that has a population of 2.5 Million really helps to put things into perspective to be honest. Basically, just under one percent of one percent of the population of Utah were listening to him.

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    Father Time says:

    It’s season 7 so it hasn’t aired yet, they haven’t set a date for season 7 but it’ll probably be in the spring. Although for all we know the video game episode could be the last episode of season 7.


    Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it’s over they have the same positions they started in.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Methinks it was sarcasm against Jack and his hatred for you Mormons. I don’t know, though.


    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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    Oz says:

    I got it now! I understand how they consider it bulletproof. They will dress the new bill up with mormon magic underwear in attempts to "protect" it from the constitution!

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    Zerodash says:

    I love how the blogger calls them "videos".  Instant Fail (other than simply being a conservaitve blogger).


    Also, Jack Thompson trying to legislate games is nothing to worry about. The man will never succeed in anything in life. 

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    Michael Chandra says:

    I’m gonna be blunt. Anyone abusing horrible events like Columbine for their own political agenda, quickly tossing away any facts and experts except a few raving lunatics and conversative nutjobs to keep their blindfolds on and refuse to admit the truth, deserves to be locked away forever.

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    Adamas Draconis says:

    Good question, we have a couple law students and maybe a couple lawyers that come by, anyone of the legal persuasion care to answer this?

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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    Conejo says:

    no. to be a lawyer, you must be certified as such by a Bar.  Thompson has been disbarred, and thus is not legally allowed to practise law anywhere. and if he says he’s a lawyer, that’s also illegal.

    the problem here is he probably "conveniently forgot" to tell everyone he isn’t a lawyer anymore.

    Here are we — and yonder yawns the universe.

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    cutetei says:

    Is he technically a "lawyer"? Since all that a lawyer is someone who gets a degree in law? I’m not sure about this. How is it done in the USA?

    I in no way like, approve, or even care for a windbag like JT. He’s an idiot to say the absolute minimum.

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    Neeneko says:

    Well no.

    This is a group that claims to base all thier political beliefs off clear scripture.  If accuracy were something they cared about they would realize just how much they have cheerypicked WHICH parts of scripture they are forcing on everyone and which parts they have decided to ignore.

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    CyberSkull says:

    Theft in the City? The game by Sarah Jessica Parker?

    Onto a serious note, I see once again factual accuracy is not a priority amongst those that would limit speech.

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    Dragoon1376 says:

    Well, obviously if it removes "Theft in the City" from store shelves, it will be a monumental victory Jack Thompson & Friends.

    I also love how they gloss over the ESRB rating system and whatever company policies retailers may have pertaining to the sale of M rated games to minors.  And by gloss I mean completely ignore or are ignorant of them.

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    Andrew Eisen says:

    Darn.  Still no details on this new and allegedly bulletproof bit of legislation.  Oh well, we’ll get to see it sooner or later.

    And I’m sure it will be just as effective and successful as everything else Thompson’s done.


    Andrew Eisen

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    d20sapphire says:

    The main baddie should be based off of Jack Thompson.  The real "theft in the city" will be a law making video games an illegal product.  You are working for a number of underground game sellers and developers who are trying to stay a step ahead of this new law.

    That game would sell kinda well if done right.

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