Researcher: No Link Between Violent Games & School Shootings


A researcher at Texas A&M International University has concluded that there is "no significant relationship" between school shootings and playing violent video games.

Writing for the Journal of Investigative Psychology and Offender Profiling, Prof. Christopher Ferguson criticizes the methodology used in earlier research linking games to violence and aggression. He also points out that no evidence of violent game play was found in recent high-profile incidents such as the Virginia Tech massacre, the Utah Trolley Stop mall shooting and the February, 2008 shooting on the campus of Northern Illinois University.

Ferguson examines the notion of "moral panic" as it relates to the supposed relationship between violent video games and school shootings:

Moral panics may emerge from ‘culture wars’ occurring in a society… politicians, news media and social scientists, arguably [have] motives for promoting hysterical beliefs about media violence, and video games specifically. Actual causes of violent crime, such as family environment, genetics, poverty, and inequality, are oftentimes difficult, controversial, and intractable problems. By contrast, video games present something of a ‘straw man’ by which politicians can create an appearance of taking action against crime…

 

As for the news media, it has long been recognised that negative news… ‘sell’ better than do positive news… As for social scientists, it has been observed that a small group of researchers have been most vocal in promoting the anti-game message… oftentimes ignoring research from other researchers, or failing to disclose problems with their own research…

Ferguson, who cites GamePolitics among his numerous sources, notes that many video game critics are unfamiliar with the medium:

It has been the observation of this author, for instance, that the majority of individuals critical of video games are above the age of 35 (many are elderly) and oftentimes admit to not having directly experienced the games. Some commentators make claims betraying their unfamiliarity, such as that games like Grant Theft Auto ‘award points’ for antisocial behaviour… despite that few games award points for anything anymore, instead focusing on stories.

By way of illustration, Ferguson makes reference to last year’s well-known Cooper Lawrence/Mass Effect incident.

Ferguson also points out what he sees as design flaws in a number of studies relating to video games and aggression. He also examines school shooting research conducted by the FBI and Secret Service before concluding:

School shootings, although exceedingly rare, are an important issue worthy of serious consideration. However, for our understanding of this phenomenon to progress, we must move past the moral panic on video games and other media and take a hard look at the real causes of serious aggression and violence…

the wealth of evidence… fails to establish a link between violent video games and violent crimes, including school shootings. The link has not merely been unproven; I argue that the wealth of available data simply weighs against any causal relationship.

 

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92 comments

  1. timada says:

    I think all these violent online games that children play everyday make them accustomed to violence. They can’t easily see violence as something bad anymore, because they see it everywhere, on the tv and in the games they play etc.

  2. magic_taco says:

    That’s what you get when you have people like Jack Thompson, Fakers From fox news, And very ignorant people.

  3. Austin_Lewis says:

    Go find it on Youtube.  Chances are they still have the censored video up on youtube somewhere.

  4. reverandspaniel says:

    Check out his academic publications page.

    http://www.tamiu.edu/~cferguson/pubs.html

    His biography on another page is as follows:

    Christopher J. Ferguson holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Central Florida and also trained at the University of Texas Medical School in Houston. He has been active in publishing research papers on violent and aggressive behavior in peer-reviewed journals and scholarly books and has done clinical work with adults and juveniles in correctional settings. Currently he is an assistant professor of psychology at Texas A&M International University. His research interests include violent criminal behavior, positive and negative influences of video games and other violent media and refinements in meta-analytic techniques.

    He’s been involved in examination of video game violence for a number of years. Also, check out:

    http://www.tamiu.edu/newsinfo/3-27-08/article13.shtml

    It’s his university’s write up of his article and an explanation of it. This guy had the article peer reviewed and published in a major nationally and professionally recognised journal. Obviously he’s done a good piece of work to get published in that…

  5. reverandspaniel says:

    While it’s an examination and analysis, he does at least use scientifically measurable and quantifiable methods. Whereas a lot of other people (read JT) just make mass sweeping generalisations, or operate using biases towards their own research and uncontrolled experiments.

    I think that this is a pretty good piece of research that uses scientifically accepted methods and while he doesn’t advocate that games are totally awesome and fine, he provides a balanced arguement. I especially like the peanut butter analogy…

  6. LegendaryGamer00 says:

    "Overkill"?

     

    tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill

     

    But there is no kill like overkill.

     

    Actually, there is no overkill. There is only "Open Fire!" and "I Need To Reload!".

     

    And 3 things to live by:

    1.If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it. 

    2. If you’re leaving scorch marks, you need a bigger gun. 

    3.There is no ‘overkill’. There is only ‘open fire’ and ‘I need to reload’.

     

    OPEN FIRE!!!

  7. LegendaryGamer00 says:

    Actually, it should…

     

    But it’s too late now.

     

    But it kind of looks better with it as a word than the symbol.

  8. Father Time says:

    Enough with the freaking >9k jokes. It’s been overkill a long damn time ago. The joke is old, washed up, no longer funny. It’s so old it would look out of place in a museum.

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  9. Father Time says:

    This is the same Ferguson who has done two other meta-analyses in the past with similar results. I wonder why he’s so interested in it.

    http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/02/19/researcher-finds-scant-evidence-linking-violent-games-with-aggressive-behavior

    http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/11/19/researcher-disputes-reported-link-between-violent-games-aggression

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  10. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Shouldn’t the crack at JT’s IQ read "less than -9000"?

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  11. mdo7 says:

     

    Austin,

     

    My music knowledge is very lacking.  I’m not a fan of Pearl Jam, I know some other song that relate to school shooting.

     

  12. Austin_Lewis says:

    What about parents?  I knew how to read before I got to first grade.  None of this ‘hooked on phonics’ shit either. 

    I find that you get out of schools (nearly ANY school) what you put into it.  Obviously, this doesn’t apply to the mentally retarded and the ‘learning-disabled’ as much, but it still applies.  I know people with doctorates who have dyslexia.  Sure, many inner city schools have terrible literacy rate, but look at where the emphasis is in the inner city, goal and career-wise.  Not a lot of focus on academia. 

    There’s a direct relationship between parental involvement and crime too. 

    Of course, our schools teach some ridiculous shit.

    A lot of the emphasis that used to be put on teaching things (you know, like values) in the home is gone.  Our children are being told what’s right and wrong by their teachers, having political correctness and ‘non-violent, non-competitive play’ forced down their throats in schools.  I remember having to talk to a school’s guidance counselor because I have firearms in the home and he felt it made for a ‘violent home environment’.  His basis for this was a questionnaire passed around in class that asked if the parents drank, smoked, had firearms, did drugs, etc. 

    Point is, some emphasis needs to be put on parenting.  America is quickly becoming a country where no one is responsible, and that’s bullshit.

  13. LegendaryGamer00 says:

    Jack Thompson’s failure level… is OVER 9,000!!!

     

    Jack Thompson’s IQ… is NEGATIVE 9,000!!!

     

    The Value Of My Video Game Collection… is OVER 9,000($)!!!

  14. Austin_Lewis says:

    What about Pearl Jam’s song JEREMY?  The whole fucking song is about a boy who kills himself in school for the same reason that many school shootings occur!

  15. Wolvenmoon says:

    Violent video games aren’t to blame, duh. Any link between them and crime-if there was one (and there isn’t)-is a symptom of underlying social problems.

    Instead of addressing the bullying issue in our schools, and the systemized abuse of students with psychiatric disabilities in our k-12 public schools, we’re trying to blame cultural phenomona.

    Same old bullcrap. Our schools fail (people without disabilities don’t have a 100%, or even a 99.9% literacy rate) our students. There’s a direct relationship between education and crime. You can bet that the higher one is the lower the other will be.

    So why not spend all this energy turning over our rotten school system and bringing it to at least only twice the money per student as private schools scoring higher than it, and on par with them.

     

  16. mdo7 says:

     

    "I really love Monday" Trophies/acheivements unlocked

     

    Figuring out what song is inspired by a mass murder.

     

    COngraulations, BearDog.  That’s your prize

     

  17. BearDogg-X says:

    I remembered the song because I saw a show on VH1 Classic about One Hit Wonders on Saturday, I still had to look up the band, though.

    Boomtown Rats- "I Don’t Like Mondays"

    http://www.vh1classic.com/view/playlist/1600451/321441/Vh1_Classic_One_Hit_Wonders_British/I_Don_t_Like_Mondays/index.jhtml

    The frontman of Boomtown Rats, Bob Geldof, who also went on to promote the Live Aid concerts in 1985, wrote the song in response and performed almost a month later…..in San Diego. It ended up being a #1 hit in the U.K.

    Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.


    Proud supporter of the New Orleans Saints, LSU, 1st Amendment; Real American; Hound of Justice; Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always

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  18. BrandonL337 says:

    Win level: over 9000!!!!

    There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

  19. Gabriel Celesta says:

    At least it’s only one letter off, unlike how some people completely F the name up.

    (I’m looking at YOU, you Eagle Forum dickheads!)

  20. mdo7 says:

     

    This will destroy any credibility by any video game critics and haters out there.  violent video game and school shooting, my butt.  They haven’t explain the school shooting that happened before Pong, Atari 2600, and Magnavox Odyssey came out.

     

    Bath Massacre, 1927-Andrew Kehoe killed his wife, blew up Bath Elementary School and killed himself.  what video game did he play? Bioshock? Mercenaries 2? Farcry 2?  Nope none of these, he had financial debt.  Blame it on the money, as a matter of fact ban money, they are the root of greed and evil.

    Poe Elementary School attack, Sept 1959-Paul Harold Ogernon was the perpertraitor of this shooting which end up killing 6 people including himself. He was a ex-convict who couldn’t get his son enrolled into that elementary school, and he went ‘Postal’ on the school.  Video game was not behind this.

    Cleveland Elementary School schooting, Jan 1979-Brenda Ann Spencer, 16 years old shot up the school for no reason which ended up with 2 dead, 6 injured.  What FPS game did she play? Oh wait a minute, FPS games wasn’t invented until the 1990’s hence she can’t be "trained" on video game.  But however, her motive and quote "I hate Mondays"  (can you guess what movie and song had this quote?  I’ll give you a trophy/achievements if you can figure it out)

    Portland, Connecticut, Dec 1985-13-year old student Floyd Warmsley shot and killed a janitor, injured the principal, as well as a school secretary and held a student hostage with a rifle at Portland Junior High School after he had been suspended for refusing to take off his hat while in school. He was arrested after his father convinced him to surrender. (from Wikipedia)  So what video game made him do it?  It wasn’t, blame the hat it was the cause of the shooting.

    Montana, Dec 1986-14 year old Kristopher Hans, angry over a failing grade, shoots and kills a substitute teacher for a French classroom, and then later wounded a vice principal and two students.  I don’t think video game is to be blame, blame the teacher she was the one that made him go homicidal.

     

    To JT and all video game haters, I want to you to look at that and tell me if video game is behind all those event I listed.  If you say it did, then you’re officially retarded and need to go back to school to study history.

     

     

     

     

  21. magic_taco says:

    These facts are great or all but it’s not like the whole world will listen, Some of the Anti-gamer people even Fox news themselves will just ignorantly plug their fingers in their ears and go la la la la la, while someone who has an honest awnser will just get ignored,

    And it’s not like we’re able to predict another school shooting, If something wrong were to happen, Instead, People will probably just point the finger at us.

  22. TBoneTony says:

    😀

    Even if the Mainstreem News ditch this as something not newsworthy enough, this discussion even proves that the Parents of child gamers are horribly missinformed by the mainstreem news and they need to look at other opinions and examples to have a clearer view of what is really going on.

    Any research or discussion from a Psychologist who goes into that sort of detail to me is more worthy to take notice of instead of a fear tactic from those other people "who I shall not name here."

    Sadly you will also find other people who will come up with a rubbish statement based on full opinions and no facts like "This man was PAYED by the industry." or "He is not a real Psychologist."

    I don’t think we should question if people are Psychologists, but we should only question their research to find out if it stands up to strutiny or if there is any strenghts to that research.

  23. nightwng2000 says:

    Broken News:  Another School shooting in our city.

    Faux News report:

    At 9:15am this morning, police report an anonymous call was made to 911 claiming that a school shooting would be taking place at approximately 10am this morning.

    Not wanting to risk children’s lives, police and school officials announced a county wide school lockdown.

    Police officials report no signs of intrusion or danger thus far.

    Update:  At 10:02am, the sounds of automatic fire could be heard on the outskirts of the city limits.  No reports from security officials at any of the schools had been received.

    Police tracked the sounds of gunfire to the lake North of town where police found the bodies of approximately 30 minnows, riddled with bullet holes.  The fish had apparently been swimming together at the time.  The shooter was still present, the weapon lying nearby, and was attempting to gorge himself to death on the remains.

    The names of the minnows have been withheld until family members can be notified.

    This has been a Faux news report.

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

  24. vellocet says:

    All of this makes sense to us because we’re gamers.  We have knowledge of the medium… not to mention we love it.

    The biggest problem is that older people (litigators) and non gamers are ignorant and have no desire to learn anything more about video games.

    The "truthiness" of video games causing violence is "truer" to these people than the facts.

  25. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    *snorts from laughter*

    You have… any idea… heh… how many of them… are gonna… take you seriously!?

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! 

    Hilarious.

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  26. krotoslol says:

    *plays a violent video game*

    IMA GONNA GO ON A SCHOOL SHOOTING!!!11 HUR HUR HUR HUR!

     

    >_>

    =========================================================================== Jack Thompson is vanquished!!!

  27. CyberSkull says:

    This makes quite a bit of sense. Therefor it will be ignored in favor of self-serving chest thumping over the evils of the vidja games.

  28. Geoff says:

    Pretty much the same talking points I’ve seen on this forum over and over again.  In other words, we’ve been saying this for years now.

    Still won’t stop the iditos from trying to ban or regulate content.  We’re just going to have to wait for the older generation to die off/lose power before we can breath easier.

     

    Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

  29. MarcL says:

    I agree as to the counter arguments.

    While I believe what this man says personally, if we are looking at credentials what is to make him more credible than some other researcher who claims to find a correlation.  Everyone goes back and forth over flaws in other peoples studies, nothing comes out unscathed.

    I wish there was some way to raise one of these articles/studies/etc above the rabble and really get it noticed.  The Byron report was a step in the right direction, but I don’t think it went deep enough.  It seemed more of suggestion of what to do rather than a judgement on the correlation between violence and violent games. Grand Theft Childhood may be a better example, but I’d like to see something more widely accepted.

    Meh.

  30. GrimCW says:

    so this is what? 5 to 1 against JT’s theories?

    but many politicians will still look at the bad and take that one alone as the lone truth i bet.

     

    now if we could find bigfoot we’d be all set! 🙂

  31. nightwng2000 says:

    We should remember that, while the individual is referred to as a researcher, this isn’t a study but rather an examination and analysis of various studies, media reports, and individual opinions and theories. 

    I’m sure there will be plenty of counterarguments to his critizisms, and I really can’t wait to see them.  Will it be a mere wave of the hand arguing "Oh, he’s just one person" or "He’s a tool of the industry"?  Or will there be actual debate points thrown out?

    Should be interesting.

    The reason I point out that this isn’t a study per se is because I don’t want there to be any confusion that I would support one study that supported my arguments while railing against studies that do the opposite.

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

  32. tonyc says:

    I can’t see video games being the underlying root of the problem. Perhaps the constant coverage that news and media give the shooters, almost make them as heros in some circles. Teens and kids are troubled. They get picked on. And when they see these kids who have faced similar struggles on their TV sets, it almost becomes an inspiration to copy cat.

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  33. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Ewwww! Look at the veins and sagging, stretching skin. Blegh.

    Ermm…would that mean it’s a fail? I mean, I know he’s kinda old, but his money hasn’t run out: he’s still getting his botox treatments and collagen injections.

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  34. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    And what is it you call bullshit on, Brandon? 

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  35. BrandonL337 says:

    Liar Liar

    There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

  36. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    THIS was the closest ever gotten.

    On a side note, it burns seeing the "P" missing. Especially since it inscribes his "P"enchant for "P"issing on "P"eople’s graves.

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  37. Harry Miste says:

    On the topic of Ace Attorney, I wonder if there’ll be a fangame based on playing as Jack Thompson…

    I’d buy it.


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  38. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Ooh! Ooh! I know it!

    Awgh, God, doesn’t it hurt when you know the answer to a question and somebody else has to answer it?

    Game on, brothers and sisters.

  39. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Found a solution. Andrew, you were a bit late. 

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  40. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Fifteen Silver Points to you for accurately displaying just how stupid JT is. 

    OVER 9000 more waiting for you if you can guess where the reference in the above sentence is.

    (For shaoron only to answer. No one help him.)

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  41. nanguyenalice says:

    A lot of the emphasis that used to be put on teaching things (you know, like values) in the home is gone. Our children are being told what’s right and wrong by their teachers, having political correctness and ‘non-violent, non-competitive play’ forced down their throats in schools. I remember having to talk to a school’s guidance counselor because I have firearms in the home and he felt it made for a ‘violent home environment’.

    ( ged online , homeschool and Online diploma )

  42. Ormick says:

    <By contrast, video games present something of a ‘straw man’ by which politicians can create an appearance of taking action against crime…>

    "Straw man" doesn’t even break the surface there. Nevertheless, I never thought about it that way.

  43. Erik says:

    You know photobucket accounts are free.  And since Dennis has allowed you to continue insulting the people here with your continued emulation of one of Thompson’s antics, (that being his picture book for adults.  An insult to its viewers the Florida bar.  But we’ve been forced to tolerate Shadow D. Darkman’s picture book for GP readers) it would be really swell if you could host all of this 4chan bunk from a single source.  Therefore the multitudes of us who wish to use programs such as Firefox to block said images much easier than trying to block out your host du jour.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  44. GTCv Deimos says:

    Why are we only teasing JT?

    TAKE THAT 35 YEAR OLD AND UP (mostly elderly) PEOPLE! YA OL’ FOGEYS!!!

  45. shaoron says:

    but it’s not like hell bother reading it since it’s against his case…

     

    Jack Thompson: "OBJECTION!"

    Judge: "For…?"

    Jack Thompson: "It makes my case looks really bad! So it must be false!"

  46. Shadow D. Darkman says:

    To Jack Thompson:

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    "Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

     

  47. Chuma says:

    Inane is a better word than intollerable.  However if you are happy with people contributing nothing to a conversation and instead lowering gamepolitics to the levels of other forums then that is a decision for Dennis and yourself.  Personally, I’m disappointed.  It’s also the reason I seldom contribute these days.

  48. Andrew Eisen says:

    Internet Explorer

    Tools -> Internet Options

    Click on the Advanced tab

    Under Multimedia, uncheck the "Show Pictures" option.

    Firefox (this one’s probably your better bet)

    Tools -> Options

    On the Content tab, click on the Exceptions button next to "Load images automatically"

    Type "www.gamepolitics.com" and hit the Block button.

     

    I’m sure there are plenty other options out there if you really find Shadow’s pics that intolerable.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  49. Adamas Draconis says:

    Dude, I’m almost 35 don’t lump me in with the idiots please

    Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

  50. Father Time says:

    I prefer 1984’s method of control it seems so much more complete and oh so much more evil.

    I haven’t read fahrenheit 451, but it sounds like something George Carlin spoke (paraphrased)

    Nobody questions anything because they’ve all got gadgets and fast food and toys they’re content. Americans have sold out for cheeseburgers and Reebok.

    This may have been a combination of two routines seperated by some time but I’m almost 100% sure Carlin said something along those lines.

    Of course Fahrenheit’s world obviously didn’t have free speech.

    And that reminds me of something, 1984’s world didn’t try to make their citizens content with stuff. In fact they were in a state of perpetual unwinnable war partly so that all technology advances would go to the state and the war effort instead of to citizens.

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  51. Baruch_S says:

    That’s a good summary of Fahrenheit 451. I mentioned those two books because they both show what happens when the government suppresses common sense and free thinking. I’d suggest that you read Fahrenheit 451 if you ever get the chance, Zippy. You’ll probably lose any faith that you may still have in the government, but it’s probably better that way.

  52. Austin_Lewis says:

    It probably didn’t help that they had firemen setting books aflame.  Sure, the people in the story spent all day trying to interact with their television shows, but I bet if their had been a book around on history they probably wouldn’t have taken that as well.

  53. Seiena_Cyrus says:

    I had to read and Analyze Farenheit 451…and as Beaty says in his big speech to Montag, It started with Political Correctness, make everything as vanilla and un offensive as possible, then you start taking little liberties with their freedoms that the government assured them….keep shrinking them smaller and smaller until you take away all their rights all together.  Then to make sure people can’t actually think about what they’ve lost and get smart enough to take it back you bombard them with stuff all day long keep them busy and moving and unthinking masses make them all believe their happy when they really aren’t…that was the whole big thing with 451…a brilliant method for control really…but all around -bad- ya know?

  54. Harry Miste says:

    I saw Farenheit 451 as a case of ‘dumbing down the population’, unlike 19-8-4 which is ‘controlling the population’.

    Though I’ve only read 1984, so don’t quote me on that.


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  55. T5 says:

    Grant Theft Auto?  Forge paper work to illegally aquire public monies?

     

    On a serious note, nice to have this study in the hopper. 

  56. Baruch_S says:

    Have you been reading Nineteen-Eighty-Four or Fahrenheit 451? If not, you most definitely should be.

  57. ZippyDSMlee says:


    Lets take this argument and throw it on its head.

    Free thought and common sense create problems in society because people will gravitate away from what they are told to do by the rules set forth by society.

     

    So obviously free thought and common sense are bad right? Right?

    I don’t think so…

     

     


    Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.


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  58. HarmlessBunny says:

    I have a feeling that any opponents to video games will just dismiss this as "propaganda" and cite more bogus biased research funded by folks who told the "researchers" what their results will be ahead of time…

  59. BearDogg-X says:

    Survey Says……One More For The Good Guys.

    Prof. Ferguson is absolutely correct, and it proves that idiots like the Metropolitian Moron of Miami, Joe Baka, etc. are absolutely wrong.

    Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.


    Proud supporter of the New Orleans Saints, LSU, 1st Amendment; Real American; Hound of Justice; Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always

    Saints(3-4), LSU(7-0)

  60. reverandspaniel says:

    Would it be over the top to print this article out and stick it on my bedroom wall for posterity?

  61. magic_taco says:

    FINALLY, Some Relevant Proof,  Besides Most of the Killers in school shootings were victims of bullying through out their childhood and some were just plain not right in the head, Not to mention some had been bullied into the belief of social status,race or issues over masculinty,etc or so on, even the "Jock and cheerleader" worship is even to blame, And yes Mental illness, Even some common traits that the FBI concluded somethings about the school shooter and on that very specific list, Video games were never mentioned, And Yet thank you GP for finding proof of this stuff, It’d keep a very stupid 50-something year old disbarred attorney from pulling false facts out his bony old ass, My views of this may not be correct, but i would love to have some links if anyone has to offer over the personality of a school shooter or FBI crime rate case files or so on. 

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