BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

January 23, 2009 -

A study published today in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence maintains that video games - including the non-violent kind - are linked to a variety of negative findings among college students.

According to the Deseret News, the study, conducted by a team of faculty and students at Utah's Brigham Young University, concludes that:

  • the more the students play video games, the worse their relationships are with friends and parents (although this effect is modest)
  • those who play video games daily smoke pot twice as much as other players and three times more than those who never play
  • young women who play often have lower self-esteem

BYU prof Laura Walker, the lead author of the study, told the newspaper:

Everything we found associated with video games came out negative... [But] I don't want parents to go out and yank all video games. It's like TV. We have to choose what's good and bad and practice moderation.

Student Alex Jensen, who participated in the research project, added:

I assumed violent video games would be related to lower relationship quality with friends and family. I didn't expect regular video games — nonviolent video game use — would be correlated to lower relationship quality...

An abstract posted on the website of the Journal of Youth and Adolescence offers some information on the methodology of the BYU study:

Participants included 813 undergraduate students (500 young women, 313 young men, M age = 20...) who were mainly European American (79%), unmarried (100%) and living outside their parents’ home (90%).

GP: It is quite interesting that this study would appear in conservative Utah at a time when a renewed effort to legislate video games is underway there.


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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Wow. Knee Jerk reaction much?

If you guys actually took a moment to think about the study, none of the results should surprise you. First of all, a "modest effect" means that the results were not all that compelling. In fact, that's psychological jargon for saying "not quite statistically significant", or "statistically significant but the effect was hardly noticable"

When you're dealing with a huge sample size, it is very easy to get a statistically significant result. Unfortunately, it is MUCH harder to get an effect size that is worth a darn. The results garnered probably reflect minimal impact on the individuals lives and the lives of their families.

Furthermore the "young women who play often have lower self esteem" shoudlnt surprise anyone at all. Be honest with yourself... what kind of body image do video games portray? You RARELY, and I do stress the rarely, see video games portray individuals with a realistic body. The men have bulging muscles and the women have bountiful cleavage with less than 2% body fat. Women are more affected emotionally by the portrayal of body image than men are. This is one of the main causes for eating disorders and is hardly anything new. Of course there is going to be a statistically significant result when it comes to self esteem. When you surround yourself with negative images all the time it is hard not to compare yourself to them!

Furthermore, all this "I never did this so the study is bullshite" is just garbage and shows an ignorance of the statistical process. There is a reason why they studied 813 students instead of 1 person. You garner more data from a large number of people than a small number of people. This is a peer reviewed journal, and as thus I am 95% confident with the methodology within the paper. These articles are reviewed by a panel of licensed and qualified psychologists and psychiatrists whose entire job is to authenticate the methodology and legitimacy of the papers submitted to their journal.

Finally, quit breaking the poor guys balls. He is reporting what the numbers gave back, and even stated that they did not expect these kind of results. You guys are cherry picking which statements to get upset about instead of taking the entire article into account.

I'm a gamer too, but I'm also a student of psychology and when you know how to actually read a scientific article, it is hard to get upset about things such as "modest effect". These results are not damning and the author takes that into consideration. Of course the results will be used out of context, but that is no reason to bury them.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

To me it doesn't matter how the study was done, it's just another worthless study that doesn't amount to any proof.

The correlation is insulting to the gamer population and people don't like being insulted. When they do get insulted they can lash out and be vicious. They can also get quiet let it fester inside of them leading to other emotional problems. They can also write the whole thing off and never come back to GP again. When people feel threated, they will offer a defense from their own lives or situations.

I still stand by what I said but I believe the tone of your article is a bit sharp on the population in this forum.

Even I was modestly affected.

;)


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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

To me it doesn't matter how the study was done, it's just another worthless study that doesn't amount to any proof.

You are expecting too much from this study. It's intentions were not to determine proof of video games doing anything bad. It was to study the correlation between video games/gamers and varying risk factors in life. The purpose was to see how they were correlated, not how one causes the other. Due to the nature of the research design he had no choice but to go about it this way. Researchers do not have this vast freedom people think they do. There are internal review boards and ethics committees that oversee everything that is done. If they don't approve it due to inherent risk to the participant, they can not do it. With certain restrictions the only ethical way to continue with a study is to do it by survey, and even then the survey must past the IRB.

The correlation is insulting to the gamer population

It is only insulting if you actively interpret his words as insulting. If anything he was shocked by the results and even states that it is no reason to get up in arms and panic. People are making mountains out of molehills and it's silly to do so. Furthermore, all he did was report the numbers SPSS gave him. He did not disparage gamers with this study. He talked about the real correlations that are present. Nothing more.

I still stand by what I said

And you are free to do so.

but I believe the tone of your article is a bit sharp on the population in this forum.

It's not my article... I didn't write the thing nor did I get it published. I WISH I was head PI in a published article but alas, I am not that lucky.

Even I was modestly affected.

Again, you are misinterpreting the vocabulary used.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

When I meant "article", I meant your post, but it really doesn't matter how I meant it at this point.

Thanks for making me feel like crap. 

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

That certaintly wasn't my intention. The last thing I want to do is disparage gamers because I am one.  The intent of my post was to spread a little bit of knowledge. This study isn't as flawed from a methodological standpoint as people want to believe.

People have got to get over this knee jerk reaction if they want to take part in debate. It does nothing but make us all look bad.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Its the pot comment that gets my goat.

 -Warren Lewis


Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Why? He doesn't state that video games cause pot smoking or that smoking pot makes you play video games. He is merely stating there is a correlation, and to be honest I can see it too. Of all the pot smokers I know, only one does not play video games regularly. She's a D&D and is active in the SCA.

He isn't saying the majority of video game players are potheads. Far from it actually.

Think about it. Most poeple smoke pot to either unwind or self medicate. Why do people play video games? A large percentage play video games to relax or unwind... destress.

Remember, a small percentage multiplied by 3 or 4 is still a relatively small percentage in the grand scheme of things.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Exactly. I know a fair number of cannabis enthusiasts and only those aged 35+ do not engage in videogames. However they tend to to play guitar or go on walks or lie back and watch TV when they dose cannabis. These are all forms of unwinding like Zevorick said. The combination of cannabis and a favorite or relaxing activity make that activity that much more entertaining or relaxing. I don't see why people are getting so offended.

The link is there.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I think we need to pass a law To tell Newspapers to read the full study

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

They did read the full study, but the problem lies in their ignorance of psychology. There truly is a certain way you have to read these articles. The APA sets up regulations and procedures for those writing articles to follow and most journals reflect that. Unfortunately some researchers take it for granted that their main audience are those who have taken the proper courses and have the prerequisite knowledge to interpret their results accurately.

 

"A number of univariate analyses of variance (ANOVAs) were conducted to determine whether mean levels of electronic leisure differed as a function of gender, living arrangement (living with parents vs. not), and ethnicity (African American, European American, Asian American, and other). In regard to gender, seven of the ten analyses conducted were statistically significant (see Table 2), with young men reporting more video game and violent videogame use than did young women."

You're telling me you expect a journalist to understand what the honest heck this is supposed to mean? This wasn't taken from an unimportant section either... This was straight from the results. I'm not saying the journalists are stupid, it's just that most people aren't exposed to this kind of vocabulary and without knowing what an ANOVA is or what "Statistically significant" means, you can't really take anything into proper consideration. They can only really gather second hand information from the Discussion section which does not adequately inform the reader if that is all they are focusing on.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

It seems your comment is going unnoticed. Too bad. You are one of the few here who actually makes sense on this article.

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Thus is life. ;)

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I've got little to complain or worry about,If they want to study or look more into a hypothesis in their reasearch, Then let them, Second of which, I want to know what was BYU smoking when they got to theory.

Magic Taco

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Rule number 1 in statistics, correlation does not imply causation!!!

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Participants included 813 undergraduate students (500 young women, 313 young men, M age = 20...) who were mainly European American (79%), unmarried (100%) and living outside their parents’ home (90%).

Well, there's your problem  ;)

And what the hell is a European American???  An American that likes to pee on things???

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Although your pun is quite clever, I'm sure it's the new fashionable way to say caucasian.  

It bothers me that there were more women than men in the study, by almost 200.  Is this saying more about female gamers than male?  I hope not.

Also, repeat these results with random participants, not just a bunch of college students who are the same in so many statistical brackets.  I think the data would not be as damning.

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Is this study also showing that, if you're white, and you play video games, you're a pot-head?

Also an FYI to the people that did this study...very little of the population has a high self-esteem...and your median age is 20??

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I knew this was questionable science the very second I read it was from Brigham Young University (BYU).

Seriously... no one thinks there is a alterior motive to this science coming from such a bigoted college?

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

huh huh I like it when they Bringham Young   ;)

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

  • the more the students play video games, the worse their relationships are with friends and parents (although this effect is modest)
  • those who play video games daily smoke pot twice as much as other players and three times more than those who never play
  • young women who play often have lower self-esteem

 

Firstly, the more a person does ANYTHING that takes a lot of concentration, the worse their relationships with parents and friends will be.  That's hardly news to anyone with an ounce of reasoning ability.  Surely it doesn't take a scientific study to figure out that spending time away from folks adversely affects a relationship.

Secondly, like many others here, I call BS on the pot-smoking thing.  If a person plays videogames daily he's not going to have time to smoke pot.  I play every day and I smoked one joint, back in the 1980s, and at the time I didn't even own a videogame console.

Finally, 'young women who play often have lower self-esteem'?  Even if it's true, what does that prove?  Is the author of the study really suggesting that games have some negative influence only on the female psyche?

Notice the wording used - they don't say 'women with low self-esteem tend to play games more often'.  No, they use their words carefully in a way that makes it seem like the game-playing is causing the low self-esteem.  The bias is clear.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

"If a person plays videogames daily he's not going to have time to smoke pot."

You can't multitask?

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Yeah, the main problem is a spliff keeps going out because you keep getting absorped in playing the game!

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

"If a person plays videogames daily he's not going to have time to smoke pot."

Sorry, but from personal experience I can say you're wrong about that.  Games have a pause screen for a reason...even unintended ones. :)

 

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Also vaporizers and hookas have tubes so you can keep your hands on the controls.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Young people in playing games, smoking weed, drinking alcohol and having relationship issues shocker!

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

ROFL So so true, I'm sure kids that lived in the 60's never took drugs or listened to music their parents didn't approve of, or, indeed, attend massive festivals that celebrated that fact....

 

Oh wait...

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

So I'm a pothead because I play video games everytime.

Right, that's the biggest peace of bs. I have yet to meet someone who smokes pot because they play video games. (I don't doubt that there are potheads that play games but that's like a minority)

 

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Hi. I'm MrKlorox. Nice to meet you.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I stand corrected?

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Kotaku linked to their honor code:

http://honorcode.byu.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3585&Itemid=4643

These lovely Christians will expel you for being homosexual.  What a wonderful religion Christianity is...

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I never found anything in there that said anything about homosexuality.  Could you please point me to it?

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

So do the Boy Scouts

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Well being a private institution I think they are allowed to do that, as f'd up as that is.

This is the internet and I'm probably wasting my time by doing this, but not all Christians are like this.  You can say maybe half of America's Christians are like that and that's probably exaggerating the actual numbers.

Being a narrow-minded atheist is just as bad as being a narrow-minded Christian.

Jeez, these are strange times indeed when the resident Heathen is defending Christianity.

 

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

No offense, but I am tired of the "not all Christians..." response.  The very core doctrines of the faith are what spawned the hate-issues that the religion is now centered on.  I think the Christians who are not "that way" have a responsibility to their faith to take on and defeat the zealots.  So far, nobody seems to do this.  For instance, where is the Christian outrage over people like Pat Robertson?

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

The thing about Christianity is that there are so many sects. And many of those sects don't consider people who are from a different (read identical except for some minor detail) sect to be actual, "true Christians" and ignore them instead of defame them.

Ironically "true Christians" are ones who accept others that "accept" Christ. Period.

Those that segregate or try to change others beliefs are the same bigot inside as the rest of the world.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

i'm a christian(Roman Catholic) and I dislike what the christian Colition and moral majority are saying(note: They are about as crazy as Jackie-poo when it comes to gay marrige and abortion) but i dont believe in abortion an gay marrige but these people(moral Majority, etc) take things too Seriously

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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brb, goin' to Utah to find these daily gamers who smoke all the pot.  They sound like my chosen people.

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I smell reverse correlation in all of these...

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

When I was a child, I was terrible at creating and maintaining friendships. Sure enough, the internet soon became my home. An unexpected side effect of such was to find many others like me, to become more confident, and seek the problem out.

I now have a fulfilling relationship with my girlfriend of 1 and half years, I'm going to college and doing well, I see my family almost every day, and I still play games for 2+ hours a day. Hmm...

I don't understand this "PLAYING GAMES = SOCIAL RETARDATION" because it was online gaming that brought me out of my shell in the first place. Now, I'm not gonna try to say that my relationships with everyone are flawless, but I was like this well before I started gaming. My girlfriend also has a hard time getting along with people, and she doesn't game at all. She watches movies and reads books, draws and writes, goes to school. Nothing strange about her. She just doesn't like people.

I'm curious to know how they picked the sample for this study. I'm also curious to know why they only chose single-player games, as the mindset of multi-player gamers is drastically different, and many gamers often play with their RL friends as a form of being social.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

People who read books for hours on end because they are so caught up in the stories tend to rub their eyes a lot.

People who play Solitaire or solo games a lot or even exclusively are Anti-Social.

Participating in contact sports, such as football or boxing, will make your muscles sore.

If you are alive, one day you will die.

One cannot LIVE without SOMETHING negative happening to them.

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

And let's get ready for jack to use the gift of the "silver-tounge".

Magic Taco

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Ahh, it's the "Seduction of Innocence" approach.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Word of advice to all people performing studies everywhere: Pot use is common among college students.

Unless you can recreate the pot findings in different age groups (college grads, middle and high schools students, early-mid 30s), video games are not a factor.

 

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

Not surprisingly, Jack Thompson has picked up on our coverage.

I received an e-mail from him this morning which said: What a perfect time for a negative video game study to hit in UTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As you probably know (and it's linked in this story), Thompson is trying to once again push video game legislation in Utah, where he has connections with an ultra-conservative group, the Utah Eagle Forum.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

At least he can't come on here anymore and annoy us with his inane ramblings and vitriol.

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You might get annoyed, but TBH Jack amuses me.

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Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

I'm surprised he didn't throw in a "This is only saying what we with working frontal lobes have been saying all along"

 

At least he's already doomed the legislation to fail by getting involved.

Re: BYU Study: Video Games Are Bad For You In So Many Ways

It's a pity ol' Jacky boy doesn't take much notice of our comments about peer review and bias by the authors...

Seriously, he just needs to get it sorted and open his eyes to the reality of the world. Totally disillusioned...

EDIT: I've been looking online trying to find information about JT and why he started off on his war against video games, but can't seem to find too much. Anyone know was it that whole '97 Heath High School thing? Or maybe he got beaten at pong one too many times by the computer or just couldn't get past the first level of super mario. I don't know, but I kinda do care...maybe if we knew we could actually try and help him get out of this weird psychotic obsessive fantasy world he lives in. However, all his work does make for good reading.

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The only reason why Thompson started off on his anti-gaming "crusade" is for one thing and one thing only: Publicity.  That and probably money, too.  Of course, he denies this vehemently; swearing up and down he's doing it simply because his faith calls him to do it or because he's trying to "protect the children."  But every other thing he says and does betrays both these assertions.

Jack has always gone after whatever cultural whipping boy was popular at the time if for no other reason to get his name in the papers and on the news.  Back in the early 1990's he went after Rap with 2 Live Crew's Nasty as They Wanna Be, which he managed to get temporarily banned from stores in Dade county.  That I think was his whiff of grapeshot since it was the first time his name ever got publicized nationally.  After that he was one of the people to condemn Ice-T and Body Count's single "Cop Killer."  And he likes to take sole credit for getting that song pulled from their album (never mind the involvement of Charlton Heston, Pres. George H.W. Bush and pretty much every police organization in the United States).

When the thing against Rap didn't pan out, he went after Howard Stern for obscenity on public airwaves.  He complained to the FCC and likes to take credit for getting Howard off the air in Florida.  But then Howard moved to satellite about a year later where he's making even more money now than Jack could ever hope to see, so Howard got the last laugh in the end.

So with most of his enemies either no longer topical or legally untouchable, his only recourse is video games.  You're right, his first involvement with them was in the Heath High School shooting in Paducah, Kentucky, the first of many failures on his part.  He wasn't the face of anti-gaming initially, though.  At first it was retired Col. David Grossman.  But as Grossman became discredited and has gone to ground, Thompson took up the banner and ran with it ever since.

And I think now the only reason he keeps at it in the face of his disbarment is not only because he's delusional, but also like some have said, on some level he recognizes that we gamers are one of the few people who pay attention to him.  So like any parasite or scavenger, he takes whatever attention he can get.  He knows we hate him and he gets off on it, but as much as we'd like him to shut up and go away or just die, we can't get enough of him because in a way he's become our whipping boy.  It's human nature to want to put a face on our fears and personify all those negative attitudes and misconceptions about our hobby, and Jack just happens to be convenient because he spouts so much hate and vitriol that it's okay to demonize him because we don't really think of him anymore as a human being...at least not a sane one.

We like to think we're better than him, perhaps we are.  But really, when we do this, sometimes I wonder if we're no better than he is?  Demonization is something that has occured throughout history, especially in times of conflict.  The Nazis did it to the Jews (ok hit me for Godwin, but it had to be said and it's the most obvious), and we did it to the Germans in both world wars and the Japanese in WWII.  And we also did it to a lesser extent to the Russians during the Cold War with all the anti-Communist rhetoric.  Not saying it's right.  Just that it is and it's a part of human behavior.  Jack demonizes us, and we demonize him and his kind in turn regardless of how much either side tries to dispel the false notions.

Ok, I've waxed philosophical on this enough.  Back to the topic at hand. 

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ok, Hits with Godwin hammer(get the joke everyone)

but anyway Jackie-poo should be gone by now(after he got banned by JAABLOG)

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

 
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quiknkoldAndrew : I dont accept any worded apology unless I can look the person in the eye when they say it. For me, he'd either have to make a video so I could read his bodylanguage, or actually do something. actions speak louder than words.10/20/2014 - 8:04pm
quiknkoldwell if they are looking for social pollution, Twitter is a great breeding ground for it. Its a breeding ground for deviance.10/20/2014 - 8:03pm
Andrew Eisenquiknkold - He had three tweets worth of apology the following day.10/20/2014 - 8:00pm
quiknkoldyou know, people keep saying Biddle's comment was sarcasm, but the thing is, Sarcasm doesnt translate well in Tweets. I took his words as really hateful, and unless I see an honest apology, I'm not going to be happy with him.10/20/2014 - 7:38pm
Matthew WilsonI doubt it will change much.10/20/2014 - 7:21pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29689949 Google's current piracy fighting plan.10/20/2014 - 6:58pm
 

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