Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His Mystery Bill

February 3, 2009 -

In an op-ed for today's Deseret News, disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson writes about the Utah video game legislation that he has been promising for several weeks.

Here's the bill in Utah: It doesn't define what content is "harmful to minors," so we avoid the phony First Amendment arguments Hollywood loves to make. The bill simply states: If you promise the public you don't sell adult-rated entertainment to kids, then you had better be telling the truth, because if a parent catches you selling this stuff to his or her kids, then you're guilty of fraud under the Truth in Advertising Law.

 

The Entertainment Software Association bragged this week that it spread $4.2 million around to "lobby" politicians at the federal level, with more spread around to state politicians...

Despite Thompson's assertion, we don't remember the tight-lipped ESA mentioning its lobbying expenditures at all, much less "bragging" about them. The $4.2 million lobbying figure which Thompson refers to was tracked down by Gamasutra via a public records search and subsequently detailed in a recent news report.

Since we've been unable to locate Thompson's measure on the website of the Utah legislature, GamePolitics asked Thompson to identify the bill and its sponsor. He declined, saying only:

I have a sponsor and a bill, and [the video game] industry is in trouble.

Layton Shumway, who pens a video game column for the Deseret News, suggests that HB14 might be the Thompson bill, but that seems unlikely. In a comment to his op-ed, Thompson offers what could be a carefully-worded hint on the future of the mysterious bill:

I look forward to returning to Utah, possibly this week, to testify for the passage of this bill. I met with state government officials last month in Salt Lake, and there is great enthusiasm for this approach...

Of course, returning to Utah "possibly this week" also means possibly not this week, or possiby not even during the current legislative session.

From Thompson's description, his bill seems aimed at movies as much as video games. Indeed, he cites poor R-rating enforcement by movie theaters but fails to mention the video game industry's significant, FTC-documented progress at stopping M-rated sales to minors.

We note also that Thompson is identified by the Deseret News as "a former practicing attorney," which does not seem to fully convey his permanently disbarred status to readers of the Utah newspaper. 


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Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His

His inability to keep his personal bias ut of politics has already doomed this to failure

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I can't believe how truely stupid this guy is. First off if he plans to use stores own policies against selling certain games to kids against them, then the stores will simply repeal those policies and therefore MORE of these games will be sold to minors, is that man really that dumb? This law will have the opposite effect. More kids will gets these games because stores aren't going to risk being fined because one employee messed up.

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I know im late to the game here, but, does Jack really, HONESTLY, think this has a prayer?

Not for nothing, but aside from being badly written and poorly thought out, does it strike no one as foolish to try and push "Morality" legislation when you yourself were disbarred for a lack of Ethics? 

Correct me if Im wrong here people, but is anyone else just envsiioning the game industry walking up to a judge, handing him the disbarment argument and saying. "Your honor, aside from all the legal problems this bill has, the man who wrote is has already been disbared for ethics violations. SHould he be allowed to force his morality on others when he's already been found to have none himself?"  After which I expect the judge will laugh jack out of the courtroom.

Seriously though, I give jack Less then 0 percent that this bill survivies a court challenge. Hell, i'd be shocked if the industry doesn't kill it in the senate by threatening to run adds telling the public that they support a disbarred attoreny guilty of massiev ethics violations.

Anyone think Im wrong?

 

 

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Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His

I'm a benefit of the doubt kind of guy so I'll wait until we see the exact text of Thompson's bill.  That said, based on his track record, I'm not expecting much.

 

Andrew Eisen

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God....this guy does not know when to give up.

Also his threats to the Videogame Industry and saying Adult Material are not really consistant.

M17+ is MATURE CONTENT... NOT ADULT CONTENT!!!!

I know, lets make out own idea about a insane man wanting to bann videogames and us gamers a the 4 Warriors of Light who go on a quest to stop this man from ruining our videogames.

If that a better idea?

TBoneTony

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The alleged proposed law is about truth in advertising. They say they don't sell to kids.

First, such a statement doesn't seem legally binding or even legally defined as "advertising." It is incredibly vague. Were Utah to sue say EA or someone else then EA could claim that in that context they meant "kids" to include anyone under the age of 7 or something.

Secondly, in most cases entertainment companies aren't the people selling the product. EA doesn't sell the games (except perhaps on their website), Gamestop and Wal-Mart do. Therefore they could argue that they are advertising the product but another party is the one selling it.

Finally, I would be surprised if this law even surfaces since 90% of everything Jacko says never happens. I'm still waiting for him to start jackandgoliath.com which he said he was going to start back in February of 2006 http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/203965.html

 

 

 

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"...so we avoid the phony First Amendment arguments Hollywood loves to make."

...Is it just me, or does he sound a lot like the villians from the old Scooby Doo cartoons?

"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling First Amendment!"

Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His

I think some PoS "for teh childrunz" bill will be introduced. And when that happens, they will have to pass it or risk not looking like they are protecting the children. Again. Utah will then have to pay $$$ in a recession after failing to defend it.

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There are NO adult games in America just 17+. Adult games are not sold in 99% of stores due to family friendly policies.

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So the bill doesn't define what is harmful to minors? Then subjectivity will shoot through the roof when enforcing it as law. Big mistake overlooking this, Jack.

He also treats M-rated material as completely off limits to kids. M is like the R rating for movies, and yet again he compares it to X-rated porno. Stores should only allow adults to buy M-rated games, but the adult's choice of letting their children play them is their own business, their own house rules. These kinds of bills are wasteful because they are about micromanagement to the extreme.

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.....Really?  That's what he's been making a stink about for weeks?  A "Truth in advertising" law?  That's got to be one of the lamest attempts at gaming regulation ever.

See, they've tried to make it illegal to sell M rated games (or games depicting certain types of content) to minors before, and it was deemed unconstitutional.  So now his tactic is to hold stores to their voluntary word that they won't sell to minors without a parent present.  But even that isn't going to work, even if it manages to pass!  Stores might have a "store policy" against selling to minors, but they don't advertise it as part of their sales pitch.

Again, LAME.

Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His B.S.

The Deseret News should ashamed of themselves for wasting both ink and paper on that walking popcorn fart.

That being said, his bill is unconstitutional as already explained above under the First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment.

Thompson should just practice what he preached about growing up and getting a life.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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Sigh

Nothing new, same old bullshit from an old man who can't get over losing. Meanwhile life goes on for me as I try to survive an exam for next week and a reserch paper concerining why video games are not a source of violence. JT is used perfectly to prove my point of the media using video games as a scape goat. 

 

Wanna copy JT?

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"It doesn't define what content is "harmful to minors,"...

That's not something to brag about, moron. It means your bill is worthless. You can't enforce a law that is completely undefined and subjective.

"I have a sponsor and a bill, and [the video game] industry is in trouble."

*mocking voice* Wow I've neeeever heard that before. *roll*

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“MRI brain scans at Harvard, Michigan and Indiana State universities prove that teens' still growing, maturing brains process violent entertainment in the copycatting midbrain and not in the frontal lobes, which intercept and curb violent behaviors.”


Let’s take a gander at what these studies actually say:

 

Harvard – Far as I can tell, there isn’t a Harvard brain scan study.  I’ve been asking Thompson for years to cite this study and the best he’s ever done is namedrop John Murray who is a Kansas State University professor who did a brain scan study in collaboration with the Mind Science Foundation at the University of Texas Sciences Center.  The study looked at the effect of TV violence on kids’ brains, not video game violence.

 

http://www.mediarelations.k-state.edu/WEB/News/NewsReleases/murray61803.html

 

Michigan – 13 adults (ages 18 -26) played an hour of Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror and were observed to have brain activity patterns that may be characteristic for aggressive thoughts.

 

“There is a causal link between playing the first-person shooting game in our experiment and brain-activity pattern that are considered as characteristic for aggressive cognitions and affects,” said René Weber, assistant professor of communication and telecommunication at MSU and a researcher on the project. “There is a neurological link and there is a short-term causal relationship.”

 

http://newsroom.msu.edu/site/indexer/2532/content.htm

 

Indiana - the study used an MRI to look at the difference between the brains of normal kids and kids with disruptive behavioral disorders when playing violent games.  The conclusion: kids with DBD have less activity going on in the frontal lobe (decision-making and behavioral control) then kids without DBD when playing violent games.  The games used?  A racing game and a James Bond game.

 

http://medicine.indiana.edu/news_releases/archive_02/violent_games02.html

 

Here’s a newer Indiana University study that says pretty much the same thing.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16099971/

 

“The American Psychological Association in 2005 found that teen play of violent video games leads to aggressive behaviors.”

 

Close, it says a “comprehensive analysis of violent interactive video game research suggests such exposure a.) increases aggressive behavior...”  It suggests an increase.  Doesn’t say how much of an increase, how much was there in the first place, what is meant by aggressive behaviors, etc.  Kind of worthless really and certainly not cause for alarm or worth basing legislation on.

 

http://www.apa.org/releases/videoviolence05.html

http://www.apa.org/releases/resolutiononvideoviolence.pdf

 

“Our military appropriately uses violent video games a) to suppress the inhibition to kill of new recruits….”

 

Nope, sorry.  Said John Stossel in his book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity:

 

"Self-appointed experts are sometimes so successful in propagating their arguments that the original source gets lost in the confusion..."

"Even the Surgeon General's Office told us, 'The Marines use the game Doom to desensitize recruits.' Where did they learn that? From Grossman. We called the Marines, They said (Doom) is not used to desensitize Marines, They say they used a version of the software to teach eye/hand coordination and teamwork. Period.
"

 

http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/288356.html

 

In police custody, one of them told detectives, "We played GTA by day, and we lived it by night."

 

Odd.  The only place I can find that phrase uttered is this article.  It seems you either misquoted, made it up, or it was never reported.  Anyway, just because these guys were allegedly imitating some of the things you can do in GTA, doesn’t mean GTA is responsible for their actions.

 

“Last month an Ohio judge, presiding over the trial of a teen video gamer for murder, said, "After awhile the same physiological responses occur playing video games that occur in the ingestion of some drugs. … an addiction to these games can do the same thing. … Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."”

 

It’s important to point out that this was Judge Burge’s personal opinion.  He’s not qualified (far as I know) to make such a conclusion and it did not prevent him from finding Petric guilty of murdering his parents.  Here’s what he prefixed his opinion with:

 

“…it's my firm belief as a human being - and not as a jurist - that Daniel does suffer from a serious defect of the mind.  This Court's opinion is that we don't know enough about these video games.

 

http://videos.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/2009/01/halo_video_game_murder_suspect.html

 

“After Columbine, the 1999 school massacre authored by two teens who… trained on the video game "Doom,"…”

 

Fans of Doom sure but the idea that they trained on it is absurd and not supported by anything other than your saying so.  Needless to say, that’s not good enough.

 

“In 2008, the FTC conducted stings on movie theatres… In retail stores, the FTC in 2008 found R-rated movies…”

 

You seem to have conveniently failed to mention how awesome the video game industry is doing compared to the other industries as well as the improvements continues to make in managing the sales of M-rated games to minors.

 

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/05/08/breaking-ftc-study-shows-massive-improvement-video-game-rating-enforcement

 

“This very day, not a single U.S. Internet retailer, such as BestBuy.com, WalMart.com and Target.com, verifies the age of any purchaser, even though reliable age-verification software is used by online alcohol, tobacco and firearm retailers.”

 

Not true either.  They use 2 forms of age verification.  As Gena Feist of Take-Two explained to you:

 

First, consumers who purchase M or RP rated games certify that they are at least 17 years of age. Numerous websites use the same method for verifying age in connection with sales of movies and games. Second, we verify age through the use of a credit card number in connection with a transaction. Such transaction based verification is acceptable to both credit card companies and the FTC (see, e.g. http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/coppa.shtm).”

 

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/08/31/take-two-warns-jack-thompson-over-manhunt-2

 

“It doesn't define what content is "harmful to minors," so we avoid the phony First Amendment arguments Hollywood loves to make.”

 

Uh-huh.  If they’re phony, then why do you have to avoid them?

 

“The bill simply states: If you promise the public you don't sell adult-rated entertainment to kids, then you had better be telling the truth, because if a parent catches you selling this stuff to his or her kids, then you're guilty of fraud under the Truth in Advertising Law.”

 

Oh, man.  So many things potentially wrong here but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait until I see the full text of the bill.

 

“The Entertainment Software Association bragged this week that it spread $4.2 million around to "lobby" politicians at the federal level, with more spread around to state politicians.”

 

Uh, no it didn’t.

 

http://www.theesa.com/newsroom/index.asp

 

 

Andrew Eisen

 

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That same Ohio judge even said that "it wasn't a defense".

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His

Forward that to the paper as a counterpoint.

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yeah definitely, agreed! forward it itd be nice for some1 to actually counter him in public

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Its a shame the comments section over there only allows 200 letters.

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So Jack's try to ban more then games this time??? p_0

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Will it be proposed?

Thanks to the Traitor John Bruce's and his followers lies, deceit, and misinformation, sure.

Will it pass?

Same as above.

Will it be deemed unconstitutional?

Sure.

If the Truth, The WHOLE Truth, And Nothing But The Truth were told about the Traitor John Bruce, his REAL agenda, and his sociopathic beliefs, would it have gone past that sociopathic hate group the Utah Eagles Forum? 

Not a chance.

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That's why I'm surprised at the results of the poll. I have no question that it'll be proposed.

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All that energy wasted if he looked at it from another angle, its not a question of if X is harmful,Y is guided from X by adults regardless and because of this we need to  allow the law in this instance to keep X mature content from being directly purchased by Y minors. We do not care if something is rated or not all that matters is that all 17+ rating levels R,M,NC17 and Unrated(but not "not rated") be restricted to purchase by adults only. This will force the MPAA to work harder at rating film which dose us all some good.

 

Start the argument with this and the law could well change, and because adults have free access and litarily  mature content is protected from kids by blocking the direct sale to them they can still get it from library, from friends and family.

 

Now Renting is a interesting loop hole because renting=library you could stipulate that commercial renting is limited and non profit library based renting is not, also you could well add not rated to the list but I think it would be unneeded.


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Zippy buddy you are being exceptionly coheret, feeling feverish?  I have to admit to a small degree of concern, I mean if anyone could understand you... isnt that one of the warning signs of ragnarok/armageddon?  ;) 

What next, jackie acutally being correct?

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I just got up thank you...my brwains just have not kicked in yet...I'm be incoherent again in a minute... I might be having trouble with my blood glucose levels though I don't think there is such a thing as diabetic idiot syndrome :P

 

PS:you haz PMs in the form mister!! :P


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Unconstitutional. Violates Fifth Amendment.

 

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Not the point, you have to start a argument for it, then with logic and reason amend the constusion, it can be done but its highly diffcult.

 

Also I was trying to edit FROM to THREW in "its not a question of if X is harmful,Y is guided from X by adults .................."

 

Also a question, Minors already have restricted rights why can not this not be added on without a amendment ?


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You are restricting purchase based on a third party rating. That violates due process. There's also the chilling effect  by enforcing this rating (at one point Wal-mart wouldn't carry M games, they might not again with this).

It also violates commerce clause, this is regulating interstate commerce, most games aren't created in Utah.

 

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Ah so a amendment would be very needed to over ride all that.

Perhaps a clause to have GOV authorized boards to bear the weight of the sales ban.Sticky or not tis somethings hats going to have to be put into place before something worse happens...


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The government couldn't do it, that would violate First Amendment.

There is only one way an amendment wouldn't be needed. There would have to be a clear and immediate danger shown to media. That's obviously not the case, or there'd be a large increase in crime rates, not the decrease that we've seen as new media became prevalent.

There's no significant danger, therefore no regulation is needed.

 

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They tax us and can take our land if we do not pay, they can most certianly do it............

If enough mvoement built up for it on a fedreal level and sicne it dose not ban the acess to of it to minors it has a better chance of sticking ,still hell has to frost over frist.


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That follows due process and is completely irrelevant to speech.

 

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Give it time as mentalities in government change the whole system of freedoms will be changed to meet the needs of the times.

Its already been so via the patriot act, with the march of modern man to protect people from ideas and words anything has the capability to change.


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As for the pole, i think it technically will. But in reality won't go anywhere, so i'm really on the middle ground between yes and no.

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Can we all just laugh insanely at this?

Okay, ready? 1........2........3

Bwahahahahahahhaaaaa!!!!

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I don't see how the industry is in trouble. The retailers are the ones that sell the games. The industry wouldn't take any hits if this passed.

Also, I was under the impression that, like movie ratings, ESRB rating were considered suggestions. How do you legally enforce a suggestion?

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Oooo, the game industry is shaking in their boots Mr. Thompson, you have them running scared now. /extreme sarcasm

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"Mentally molests minors for money"? Jack sure has a fetish for the letter M, doesn't he?

Also, Utah is one of the last hugely religious states left, so it's no small wonder that Jackhole can get his foot in the door after being disbarred so hilariously.

 

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My last name starts with an M. Does this mean I should worry?

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Hmmm...

I still fail to understand why our buddy Jack seems to think restricting games with content that is "harmful to minors" is going to really solve.

NEWSFLASH Jack!

Shielding kids from the real world only turns them into mindless, inexperienced adults that don't know how to handle normal everyday things in the real world.

The more you shelter someone, the more of a liability they become when they get backed into a corner and don't know what to do.

We already have enough adults like that; we don't need more.

Also, when it comes down to "truth" in advertising, I find I know extactly what the game is about from the commercial. When the game is named *blank* of War, or *blank* Theft *blank*...I think you can figure out the content from some key words in the title. If you shelter kids from the truth, they will start to think that Resistance is a game about electricity.


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"They didn't have C.U.N.T.F.L.A.P.S?" -- Jack Thompson

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Posted in the news thread, asking Jack to post the proof. If he quotes the FTC, I'm contacting them in order to verify.

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Re: Utah Newspaper Gives Jack Thompson Ink to Discuss His

No need to wait for John Bruce or the FTC:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/05/secretshop.shtm

E. Zachary Knight
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So let me get this strait, the best company that stopped people from buying the games is the one that made a lot of money selling games, and is pretty wide spread. The second worst company at restricting these sales (at 38%) is going out of business. Just from those two facts alone indicate that it is going to be even harder to buy M rated games next year.

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While on this topic, where the hell does Jack get off accusing anyone of mentally molesting minors?  Christianity is one of the most vile, evil things you can impose on a young person!

-If you have "impure thoughts" about sex or anything unholy, you will go to hell. 

-If you masturbate, you go to hell. 

-If you are gay or have gay thoughs, you go to hell. 

-If you don't live in accordance to the bible, God punishes you with eternal torment.

-If you have sex outside of marriage, you go to hell.

-If you look at porn you go to hell.

 

Raising a child/young adult with these beliefs instilled on them is unspeakably cruel. They believe that unless they are totally in-line with the ways of God, you will be punished forever.  That is the very essence of mental molestation.  And these Christians have the audaciy to accuse the media of doing that?

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So whats it like not having a fucking clue about Christianity?

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Am I just making up the following?

http://www.cbn.com/700club/

http://www.chick.com/default.asp

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCh2FXzD6R4

 

Am I just imagining the attempts to get Creationism into school curriculum?

Is Jack Thompson & the Eagle Forum a figment of my imagination?

 

Maybe you have no clue that these elements of Christianity exist. Are you seriously implying that these elements don't exist?

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So you not only don't know anything about Christianity, you believe an extremist, fundamentalist minority to represent the whole of a wide spread religion? You also are unware that you're about as bad as the said minority?

 

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Is it any different than the whackos who run around saying that the people who walk into markets and blow themselves up represent the whole of Islam?

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Just as a point of order I know of NO church or legit pastor, not even Pat Roberson, who will support Fred Phelps and his demonic cult. Kindly don't lump jerks like him with the rest of us.

As for Jack Chick and his tracts, they're very rarely used these days. Most Christian denominations look to other methods of witnessing to people. Some, like myself, just try to live by the ideals we claim to live by. I'm not perfect at it by a long shot, but I at least make the effort.

 
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