Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism Controversy

February 6, 2009 -

The debate as to whether the upcoming Resident Evil 5 contains racist imagery has raged ever since Capcom released a controversial trailer for the game at E3 2007.

Eurogamer, which has a detailed hands-on preview of RE5, reports that there is additional room for concern over images in the retail version:

There's also the spectre of the old racism debate, hovering the background. That debate is only going to get louder and more urgent once the game is released...

One of the first things you see... is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these... are ordinary Africans... Since the Majini are not undead corpses... it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory...

Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men... If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters, and it plays so blatantly into the old clichés of the dangerous "dark continent" and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s...

 

All it will take is for one mainstream media outlet to show the heroic Chris Redfield stamping on the face of a black woman, splattering her skull, and the controversy over Manhunt 2 will seem quaint by comparison. If we're going to accept this sort of imagery in games then questions are going be asked, these questions will have merit, and we're going to need a more convincing answer than "lol it's just a game."

Resident Evil 5 will be released on March 13th.


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Re: Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism ...

I think these whiny bloggers are ignoring the fact the other main character, Sheva, is also black. So is the other guy, Josh, who is a hero of the game and saves your ass on several occasions. On the flipside, the zombies in the game act exactly like the civilians did in Somalia when the US went over there to try to help them. Even the women and children assisted in dragging dead white soldiers through the streets. In my opinion, that's racism, isn't it? In fact, the most racist people I have ever met are black. Just bringing up race in everyday situations--seeing racism where there is none--is a form of racism itself. Just look at the way white people are portrayed in black sitcoms--very racist. They are always portrayed as stupid an uncool. Those sitcoms also bring up stereotypes such as "white people can't run fast" or "white people suck at basketball". Both of these statements, which are the basic premises of all black sitcoms (because black people think they're funny) are examples of racism. Is it OK for black people to be racist but no one else can? What a load of shit.

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I have not seen anyone mention yet that several spanish inhabitants of some forgotten area of Spain tried REPEATEDLY to capture a young white girl who was the President's own daughter yet no one mentioned that during or before/after the games release. Just because the skin tone is ASSOCIATED with prior events in history DOES NOT mean that it is mirroring those values/events or lack of said values NOW. It is merely a location setting, would you be happier if it was in South Africa where there is a larger ratio of whites to black? In creating the game the designers come up with possible scenarios on what to base the game on and a multinational company such as Umbrella was would more than likely use a continent such as Africa as a stage for their operations as doing it in America resulted in a small American city being NUKED by the US Government. It is not stating in the games creation by this or any other message that I am aware of that this game reflects the values of the designer but rather closely resembles REAL WORLD events, and whether we like it or not Africa is by far a lawless continent in SOME areas, by either lack of habitation, corrupt governments, the Blood Diamond mines of Angola/Congo/Liberia or Sudan as evidenced by Darfur. Does this say blacks are incapable of self governing? No ( And if I did not mention this someone would undoubtedly accuse me of being racist by explaining away a Publishers reasons for creating a game a specific way. ) It means that in a lawless land where evil would flourish and seeing the locals as dispensible assets Umbrella MIGHT very well set up a labratory in that country. Which is WHY the agents are sent in, because someone is taking an interest in local events, something sorely lacking in real life. Yes if they are a mix of infected and non-infected beating a women, it is not racist to simply show that particular event, it means that the dominant racial makeup of the local area are committing crimes based on some external pressure against a person with caucasian colored skin who for all we know may be jewish. Or spanish, or english, or australian, it does NOT mean racism just because you DO NOT think about it instead of reacting which seems to be the status quo with human beings in life. This is not opinion, just positing a theory as to why you should NOT get upset over a trivial issue as playing the game does NOT mean that you would endorse any racist action. People need to be less sensitive and think MORE.

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   One thing I dont see said here, among many good thought provoking comments, (and alot of stupid ones), is that although yes this, here in America can easily be considered Racial imagery, but this is in fact a game that will be released in countries all over the globe.

Yes, here in the good old US of A, this imagery will drag up some bad memories, but in Asia: they wont see anything from it. Australia: their probably just happy they finally will get a game close to the time that the rest of the world gets it. Europe: different places will have different reactions. People in France will not see it the same way that people in the United Kingdom will see it as. Africa: will probably just be reminded of the brutality that some of their countries have to see every day.

Earlier in the comments Aprincen was made out to be a racist. This is not true, he is very right to say that here in America these images can be considered racist. They bring up painful memories that are less than a century old for a specific race of people. But Aprincen I am sorry that you are wrong when you call this a Racist game. I understand your argument but you do not understand the scope.

You (and all those who are backing these ideas) are harboring idea about the images that this brings up to an American audience. However, this is a game made by Japanese to a Worldwide audience. WORLDWIDE. They may be ignorant to what these images may mean in America, but this game isnt for Americans, its for everyone. But just because they are ignorant of American customes does not make them responsible for making a racist game. Which is what you have called Resident Evil 5, point blank.

Maybe the Japanese would have a better understanding of the thoughts this dregged up here if the game was about a Japanese guy going into a chinese or korean town and shooting them all up, bringing up all those painful memories of the horrible attrocities they committed before WW2 when Imperial Japan ruled Asia in a way that would make Stalin look like a teddy bear.

But guess what, when that game would arrive in America, you know what most of Americans would see? Another Resident Evil game. Completely ignorant to their culture the way they are to ours.

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This comment by the way, was made by a staunch Republican white college kid.

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You know, the game is coming from a geopolitical vector that is, literally AND metaphorically, on the other side of the world from the black slavery issue.

This is all a bunch of stupid drivel. If the developers working on this game were all Japanese, conscious racism on their part would involve all the Africans singing Reggae songs, wearing expensive sunglasses, and performing in hi-definition gang-bang pornography. Because THAT is the black stereotype in Japan. In the absence of that, might I kindly ask all these morons crying "Racism!" to SHUT THE FUCK UP!?

Yeah, yeah, we get it. You want to be paid consultant fees by FOXnews to go on and say that video games are evil and attempting to destroy equality between the races. Nice. Have fun with that.

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for crying out loud the only racism in this game is racism against zombies. why wont sombody think of the zombies!

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YEAH!!!!

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^ I'm sorry, but u are another racist trying to spill your drivel by despicting africans as worthless people. First off its a fucking game(fiction) you and people crying racism will need to put this in its proper context; its ordinary people who've been infected by a virus(all in a fictional setting). the setting is in africa, so its a no brainer there will be black people as well as arabs and a few other enthinicities including caucasians. u generalize africa as a shit hole and say its okay for people to be racist aganist africans cause of unfortunate conditions makes u look idiotic and uninformed. first off africa is plagued by war, famine, and poverty, but that's hardly the case in all african states...not to mention the same happens in eastern europe, the middle-east and western asia should we also depict such things to show how worthless the people are ? or maybe its because they are not black? ccause that's the vibe i'm getting from your post.

secondly the fact that there's a white protagonist makes others feel its a bit racist...i think it's just a continuation of the storyline, to me the claims are unfounded. as for shiva, its squarely an african-american issue of 'lighter' skin blacks vs the others so i won't get into it much suffice to say accents of africans differ from country to country and some actually speak with a-closer-to british accent especially in formely british colonies. having lived in south-africa for a while i can attest to that.

ultimately i think this issue is blown out of proportion from both sides of the argument, some bringing bizzare ideas well beyond what game seeks to potray in its storyline; a storyline that's hardly realistic or very convincing, so reality is the last thing it seeks to show: not to mention the developers have said they had no political or racial agendas they sought to potray. so people need to chillax.

eurogamer has been garnering a notoriety for poor journalism, why should anybody listen granted though, its mostly among fanboys crying for that 0.1 point their game of choice deserved.

 

 

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I'm sorry but this is just another of black racists trying to have it both ways. First off the main villian who is responsible for turning these Africans into zombies so if anything it is sympathetic towards Africans since it shows a WHITE man victimizing them. Second of all enough with this bs about the negative portrayal of Africa. I hate to say it but Africa is probably one of the worst places to leave. There are wars, poverty, genocide, disease, famine, and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't portray it as the shithole that is. Sorry if that sounds a bit racist but if you look at the current state Africa is in, it's not pretty but I will say that a lot of it has to do with European colonialism. Also Far Cry 2 had tons of black enemies and a white hero yet nobody complained.

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er... there are many heroes to choose from. YOU chose to have a white hero, sir.

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Man, they really asked for this one.

lol it's just a game.

Living in Canada is awesome. We enjoy the universal healthcare and gun-free environment of a European country while getting all of our games released at the same time as the US.

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''One of the first things you see... is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed''

 

soo... this isnt actually racist then is it.

If somebody wants to look at this and ASSUME that its a racial attack, then who is the racist?

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I'm going to be "rofling" when it is revealed that the sack contains an infected and that the men are dragging the woman away for her own protection due to a zombie child. 

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VERY GOOD Point. They might just be protecting themselves! Nicely argued.

As with everything, what is the context ?

It is only racism, if the motives are racist. A group of black Africans infected with some parasite that makes them go crazy, dragging off a white caucasian female that is not infected with said parasite, BECAUSE she is not infected, is not racist.

A group of black Africans dragging off a white caucasian female because she is white, THAT's racist.

Context is everything.

 

 

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There is nothing racist here and honestly the people who call racism are often the racists themselves.

 

Seriously work retail for about a year and see how many people pull out the race card when you are telling them "no".

 

And why is Resident Evil 5 being labled as racist but Grand Theft Auto San Andreas wasn't?

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Actually San Andreas was as well, many people thought it protrayed blacks as thugs or something like that.

Although the game's main antagonist is a crooked black cop with a (also crooked) white cop playing second fiddle to him and it seems those guys pulling the race card forgot that.

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 Hurray for manipulating media to suit your purposes!

Yay Eurogamer!

Yay N'gai Croal!

Yay Game Politics!

Yay for manufacturing a fake "controversy" in order to drum up hits for your website!

 

 

 

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And yay for your paranoid, conspiracy-ridden idiocy.

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Perhaps with all this arguing and fighting about if a game is racist or not, perhaps we should be better as people and "PLAY THE GAME" before we decide to judge agains the game and the people of CAPCOM.

I don't know, but it is talk like this that only feeds into the sensationalsim of FOX NEWS and other Mainstreem News Media that just love to slander Videogames like they usually do.

 

TBoneTony

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Ok, I read the full article, and I noticed a couple of interesting things. The author makes some assumptions that seem a bit faulty.

"One of the first things you see in the game, seconds after taking control of Chris Redfield, is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these are not infected Majini. There are no red bloodshot eyes. These are ordinary Africans, who stop and stare at you menacingly as you approach."

The Majini are apparently the result of the same parasytes that were in RE4. If anyone remembers that game, not all of the "ganado" had bloodshot eyes. Also, if anyone remembers the credits, it implied that as people in the village started getting infected, they gradually started acting more and more violent. This was also supported by the large amount of dead villagers you find in the game, many of them horribly killed, apparently by their former neighbors.

So those guys are quite probably infected, just not yet at the "kill everything" stage.

"Since the Majini are not undead corpses, and are capable of driving vehicles, handling weapons and even using guns, it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory."

Uh... once again, the guys in RE4 were also able to do more stuff than just zombies. Most of them didn't use guns, but they were clearer smarter and more "human" than zombies. So, what's the difference with RE5? I think it's a pretty big jump to state that the game is suggesting "bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory" based on that.

"Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men. When you attempt to rescue her, she's been turned and must be killed. If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters"

Ehh, one scene, removed from context, is hard to really comment on. I'm not sure how much I trust the guy's second-hand account to give an accurate impression, though, considering his mistake regarding the Majini.

"That Sheva neatly fits the approved Hollywood model of the light-skinned black heroine, and talks more like Lara Croft than her thickly-accented foes..."

This seems like it may be nitpicking a bit. If you include a black main character, make sure she's "black enough" or something? What's funny, though, is that for a brief part of the game, a guy named Josh joins you and works with you. The article mentions this, but fails to mention that Josh is also black, and darker skinned than Sheva. (At least judging from the screenshot of him.)

 

 

Without actually playing the game, I can't comment on anything for sure, but I think the article writer is overstating things a bit.

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even though I have not played Resident Evil 4, I can deffinately say that I can trust your arguments since that you know allot more about Resident Evil than I do. Mainly because I can see from your comments that you have played allot more Resident Evil 4 than I have, I have only seen a few videos of the game and how some of the Villages Attack the main character, they were deffinately NOT zombies at all, and yes a virus that acts like that makes people violent before they get fully affected with red eyes and things like that.

 

I think I can trust your words more because of the detail you go into without trying to attract attention.

 

Plus you have read the article as far as I know too.

TBoneTony

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Honestly, people have said it before and I feel it bears repeating: The only racism you will find in this game is the perceived kind. There is no black, white, yellow, green or blue; it's just people being violent towards other people. It makes no sense whatsoever to focus on color of someone's skin in this situation. It's a work of fiction, and while there have been works of fiction in the past that were perceived as racist, I really don't think that Capcom would go out of their way to insult a specific racial demographic.

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Sooo...What I miss?

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A long time ago when RE5 launched it's first trailer a group of people thought the idea of a white guy mowing down black zombies in Africa was racist or conjured up racist images. There was a massive flame war and it looks like it's coming back.

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Flame War? At GP!?

Ok where's the jerk that started bad mouthin' religion?

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It wasn't just gp it was the site of the people who claimed it was racist and at some other large gaming sites. It was massive.

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To everyone who continues to make arguments it is racist: sorry but pull your head out of your ass.

The argument is a fucking fallacy. Two blacks and a victim white women. It's racist. Two white guys and a black women, racist. Two of any race + one of any race, it's racist. Hence, under this logic, all argument is doomed to fail, UNLESS they are of the same race. Furthermore, you are assuming, that there is racism among an involved party, such as developers. Hence, the scenes are racist. No matter the cercumstance, the scene will always be racist so long as they are of different color.

Without the meaning nor intent of such, it is NOT racist. There is no "unintentional" racism. It cannot exist. Because for there to be racism, there much be the perception of such. While someone can perceive the image as a racist image, that, nonetheless, does not make it racist without such meaning of those who made it. You are making an assumption, then arguing with that assumption.

By saying it is racist, you are actually furthering racism. If nobody had said anything about RE5 being racist, it would have been like RE4; just a game where you killed zombies. But now someone may see the scene, and proclaim racism, which further spreads it, because that instills further perception to it being a racist scene.

This is not unintentional racism. Nor was this the fault of the developers. This is the fault, of whoever decided to see this scene as racist. Essentially, they saw what they wanted, which was racism. That was what was in their minds. Not the developers'.

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Kind of like the woman from Indiana who said that the baby game had the words of "Islam is the Light".

She heard what she wanted to hear out of a baby's mumbling and she interpret it in her own way.

Also even though we as gamers have known the mainstreem media to pick on us because we are so different, I feel that the people of the TV Generation like in their 40's and 50's won't really understand our point because TV was a big thing for them, like the moon landing and the JFK being shot and his funeral.

People of that generation hold TV and News Media much in the same way that we hold Videogames.

 

TBoneTony

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Exactly. People intentionally look for racism in cases like this. Purposeful or subconsciously. Then it starts a domino effect. More people take a second look after it being pointed out, and are more likely to say "Oh yeah, it IS racist!" much like pointing out an optical illusion. You may not see it at first, but once someone points it out, it becomes easier to see.

But also, by falsifying it as racist, you are actually spreading racism through concept. Now that doesn't mean it should be ignored; action should be taken when there is arguable certainty, such as actions from the KKK. But when it can go at lengths like this, over something that A. there is no certainty of racism, and B. the argument FOR it being racist continues to be frivolous, then that is spreading the concept of racism, which keeps it alive. It doesn't matter if your for or against it, because in either case, it must be presented in the current situation, fictional or otherwise, for there the argument to be there in the first place.

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I think there's a lot of overthinking going on here...

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And the eternally pointless debate continues. The game will not be banned it probably won't lead to more racists and in 2 months after the game's released no one will care about that anymore.

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Now that I think about it, the only people who are truly not racist are those who never notice this stuff.

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Ha oh man, it's always uncomfortable when a foreign culture takes cues from American media to make their product eh?

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*sighs* People are too fucking sensitive these days.

 

And so the endless dance continues.

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I'm offended that they would refer to flesh-eating-Africans as zombies.

Now in all seriousness these scenes do sound a tad more racist then simply 'lone white guy mows down black zombies in Africa' but I don't think we should pass judgement until the game comes out. Once it does come out we'll have all the context of these events and a better understanding of how the game protrays the non-infected.

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Wait... they made a Resident Evil 5?

In all seriousness, get over it. I understand the fact that ignorant people are going to take any subject matter they can find and pick it apart to find something to be offended by. The fact is, with the game taking place in Africa... it would be just as racist to show no violence against the locals when defending oneself as the character of the game. I know, let's replace all the Africans with Asians!! I mean, the game was developed in Japan so this would be completely ok right? Or would this, maybe, be found as slightly offensive to those people who are of the understanding that Africa is in fact populated by Africans?

Hell, I say we start a tirade against the Halo series or maybe Resistance for it's encouragement of intolerance against fictional alien species. You might not think that's such a big deal, but isn't intolerance wrong in all aspects? Any of you apologists can argue against this post and several others in this forum, but when it comes down to it you're just looking for something to cry about.

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Id like to throw my two cents in here, it may do no good but what the hell.

I think the first thing is that we are reading a second hand account. We are being told that theres a group of black men beating a sack, and a white woman being drug off by a "gang" of black men. No description of what else is happening, what setting we are in or even what the situation is at that time. The writer states that he didnt see any connection or reason for it but that doesnt mean there is one. Even though thats a fairly weak arguement, its a point nonetheless.

Secondly, in any culture, any race, any religion, if there is a crisis going on especially one you cannot stop or understand, a person loses rationality. They join a group of people, which then turns in to a mob. Mobs are often paniced, tunnel visioned, and have adrenaline pumping. This human nature. The fact that the people happen to be black is just because of their location, Africa. Which also is a logical next step in the story if you follow the RE storyline. This is not a slap to black people, this is something that any human being is capable of. Example (since we're on game politics, sorry dont remember the exact names) Devin Moore, Virgina Tech, Columbine. These are three horrific crimes committed by three different races. Every Human (key word here) is capable of these things reguardless of any other factor.

Next, the bottom line that people do not like to admit most of the time is that these things DO happen. In real life, and its not game. I have had very close friends ripped off the street, raped, and dumped somewhere. Its a sad fact of life that these things will happen. Instead of taking it as being racist, I took it as Capcom showing us the grim truth of what happens in the world ESPECIALLY when put under incredibly dangerous, life threatening situations. In fact the entire notion of racism and sexism is a fairly new concept as far as history goes. I HIGHLY doubt scenes like this are in the game to encourage this kind of activity, but more to break us out of our comfortable little shell and say "These things actually happen, whether you want to believe it or not".

Lastly, racism is something we create. Either by the person being racist or the person being offended. People are so quick to play the racism card even though that was not the intent or the creator. It IS your right to be offended by something, that doesnt mean that EVERYONE must cator to your needs and make sure NOTHING offends you.  It cant happen, you cant possibly make everyone happy all at once. Does it mean that the game is racist? No, it just means that someone didnt like it and the beauty of this world is if you dont like it, dont play it. Simple as that. If you do not want your children playing it, wonderful, you obviously are a big enough part in your childs life to worry, something that isnt common nowadays.

Just remember, dont take things at face value. Always look deeper before jumping on a bandwagon, you never know when that wagons destination is right off a cliff.

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You said it better than I could.

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If splattering the zombies brain with your boot is the only blain splattering method you have at that moment, you'd damn well use it. Once their zombies, their race is about as important as what style of clothes they're wearing.

 

It's a zombie. Kill it. kill it with fire untill it doesnt move anymore.

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Hey, clothing style is important! Remember, the devil wears Prada...

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Keep in mind, we don't know what kind of stuff Umbrella is messing with this time.

Let me put it in this light. What if the "white woman" was infected with something, or a carrier. The two men could just me dragging her off to do what needs to be done.

We dont' know. I think until the game comes out, we shouldn't be jumping to any conclusion.

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it's not racist, unless they lure the zombies into a deathtrap using fried chicken, watermelons and/or rap CDs.

paraphrased from commentary on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ScoRdEAn8c starting at 8m:00s

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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Still, the fact remains that I vaguely remember shooting white zombies at least in the first Resident Evil. Don't get me wrong, with the newer details coming out, it is interesting to see how the PC hounds appear to bitch at absolutely anyone with a difference (rational), opinion. I don't care if the bastards are black, white, purple, yellow, green, red, or gray. In this game, they have hostile intent against me and (in the case of RE5)my partner and that's enough to warrant defense with lethal force.

Outside the game? I already have my own opinions about African-Americans. This just goes to show that a "Mature" rated title is intended for adults with mature attitudes towards racial stereotypes and preconceptions.

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On the matter of "African-Americans", I can only refer to the best page in the universe.

Re: Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism

This whole thing reeks of an overly PC world. I mean, you can hardly say anything anymore without being labeled something-ist. No one ever talks about racial issues at all, since if you say anything other than glowing praise to someone not your ethnicity, you're a racist.

And not just race, but sexual orientation as well. One of my closest friends is gay, and I tease him about it (He WILL tell me if I say something too far), and generally joke around with him. But I get people calling me a homophobe, ignorant, and bigoted, among other things. Do these people care that I'm close friends with the guy, and could give a crap about his preferences? No, they see "non-PC" comments and leap on me. Whats next, rewritting language so that you can only say nice things to people, will the future be unable to express themselves because all they know is good, plusgood and doubleplusgood?

In our effort to make the world a better, more accepting place, we have in fact turned it into prison. A place where opinions cannot be expressed for fear of ridicule, no matter how founded in fact they are. I think we all need to suck it up, get thicker skin, because if we continue down current PC trends free speech will be free in name only.

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I'm probably too far down the page for this to get any notice, but I find it very interesting that this is kicking up again around the same time as we have Islamic imams exhorting the creation of games featuring the slaughter of Jews. I don't know why exactly that strikes a chord with me, just seems like an interesting juxtaposition.

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Re: Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism

Seriously, what is the big deal?  That a white woman was dragged off by black men?  Foreign nationals are kidnapped in Africa all the time.  Women are targeted and gang raped in lawless areas of Africa, often by military or paramilitary forces.   It is an epidemic.  In fact, there are websites designed to track just kidnappings that occur in Africa.  Do a search for "Africa Kidnap" or "Africa Rape" on Google and see how many news stories you get from the last few months.  It is sickening.

How is it racist just to portray this?  If they were capitalizing only on out-dated and stereotypical fears, then I'd say they have an argument.  But considering they are portraying something that is readily in the news every month, how is that racist? 

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Re: Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism

Exactly. The rape phenomenon is quite common. I think the lack of realizing this is the cause of many of the comments.

Re: Resident Evil 5 Imagery May Generate Renewed Racism

Race card burning is card burning, and this is a freaking cross of them......

Race card burning=taking things out of context to burn with reverse discrimination.

 

 


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     I am beginning to wonder if anyone else finds it tragic that video games, as an artform, are unable to approach mature topics without this sort of result.  There was a comment made awhile back, I apologize for not knowing who or when, regarding the need for video games to mature, and the only way to do such was to address mature topics.  Why must we gloss everything over?  Why must candor and frank reality be sidestepped for a ficticious reality even further removed because of fear of controversy?  Race is irrelavant, the virus does not care for skin color, religious preference, nor sex.  We, as a community, want to see our past-time, our beloved art, recognized as something more by the public at large, free from the scrutiny of blowhards and mindless legislation.  However, we are still wound up in debates over personally implied context associated with the color of a video game character's skin rather than the content of his programming.

     To coin a painfully overused phrase, perception is nine-tenths reality.  What you see, and what you believe is what you will see and what you will get from the world around you.  Now, whether that interpretation is accurate by the standards of other, or even the creators of a piece of art, is the debatable point.  You may see racisim, others will see a piece vested in the environment in which it was designed for.  Is it a commentary on the views of all individuals of a race, no.  Is it a commentary on some particularly violent people in an African nation that is going through a state of unrest, potentially.  There is a tremendous amount of fodder for the latter, and the prior tends to look more as a knee-jerk interpretation made by individuals that care not so much to debate the matter, rather than slap labels on those who do not immediately agree with their ideology.  In effect, choking off any debate on the topic.

     For example, I would like to see a debate on the topic of the virus as it spreads across africa paralleled to the spread of HIV/AIDS.  Virus, incurable, killing and consuming the public at large.  I would like to point out now, as I am sure I will recieve a wash of fire very quickly, that I am not sayiing HIV/AIDS turns you into a slavering monster like the virus from Resident Evil does.  Not in the least.  The discussion on the spread of a virus through the rural and urban areas of Africa would be a practice in large scale analysis of trends in viral migration.

     In conclusion, I will close this wall of text with what I hope will be a reminder that we are all here for the purposes of understanding those socio-economic and political entities that are applying untold variants of pressure on an art form and hobby that we find dear.  When we bang a shoe on a podium and scream at the top of our lungs, "I'm not a racist, you are a racist" we no longer further the discussion, we simply immerse it in a quagmire of continued sterotypes and belligerent nonsense that tells the world far more about our insecurities than our intellectual capacity.  Earlier debates on this forum regarding the social critera laid forth by the Merchant of Venice and the works of H.P. Lovecraft illustrated the ability to bring other pieces of work to the forefront, for good or ill, to offer comparative analysis on a discussion of societal ethics and the perception of belief rather than on the pure meaning of individual words.  Simply because we do not agree with everything an individual has said or done does not mean that their life or their works as a whole are considered invalid.  Quite the contrary, those points of friction tend to lend to our societies the ability to take a hard look at themselves and see through the mirror darkly.

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