Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially Harmful" Games

February 9, 2009 -

We don't have any details on this yet, but the European Parliament has a notation on its website indicating that it will release some type of content and/or retailer guidelines later this week:

Video game safety:  The Internal Market Committee will set out a series of recommendations to improve the protection of children from potentially harmful video games on Wednesday.

In late January the European Parliament gave its endorsement to the Pan-European Game Information (PEGI) content rating system.

GP: We'll post more information as we learn of it.


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Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

But is not mature content kept from minors in half of the palces already?

 


Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.


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Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

What 'mature content' is even in a videogame?  Kids see more violence in a Tom and Jerry cartoon than they see in the most violent videogame.  The same goes for sexual content - in Tom and Jerry I've never seen anything beyond Tom kissing the neighbour's cat, and in terms of what you can actually see I've yet to see a videogame go beyond that level (except for the Hot Coffee mod for GTA 3).  I mean the whole notion that there are 'mature' games is ridiculous.

There's nothing in any modern videogame that kids in the 1940s weren't exposed to on the silver screen.  If it was okay for previous generations' kids, why not for ours?  Where did this sudden onset of third millennial prudery spring from?  It's almost like we're going back to Victorian notions of indecency.  This is the 21st century, not the 19th - we should be well beyond this nonsense.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

Look, I have a real life case here that PROVES games can be harmful!

I was doing the Impossible Challenge on Rock Band 2 this Sunday, and now my pinky is sore! See, it harmed me!

(OK, just kidding.)

what game is harmful for kids, it the parent's responsibility

 

Would somebody like to tell the parliament they got more important assignment like I don't know, the GODDAMN ECONOMY, FOR GOD SAKE.

 

Look, we went over this again and again.  If the parent don't want their kids exposed to the violent and dangerous stuff in the game.  Don't buy it for them.  Are these people stupid??  Don't buy the game if it has mature content.  Gamestop, and other video game store does enforce a "show ID when buying a M-rated game."

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

OMG, the sky is falling in! THE SKY IS FALLING IN!!

Sheesh - way to go, reactionary GP.com. Recommendations != legislation.

Cue 20+ comments about slippery slopes and how this "outrage" is "retarded".

-- teh moominz --

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

There is nothing in the article to suggest this is legislation. There is nothing reactionary about it. He starts off telling us that there is limitied information and gives us the information he has.

I think you are the reactionary one.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

I wasn't referring to Dennis, I was talking about the moribund comments chains (like this).

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Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

You didn't spcify GP.com readers. That was confusing. Thanks for the clarification.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially

So when is the government going to step in to protect kids from other potentially harmful stuff, like bad drivers, chocolate and fast food?

I mean this is ridiculous!

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

I've said this before, but once more with feeling ...

The EC have no competence over this issue. The Internal market Committee can make whatever recommendations they wish, but they have no power to introduce measures into EC law.

There is no likelyhood of the EC taking over control of this issue as the Treaty clearly exempts this area broadly within a 'public morality' exemption. There has been no attempt to regulate the sale of any type of media at the European level, they are highly unlikely to start now.

It is hardly the first time that politicians will mouth off outside their competence.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

Frankly, of the items listed there, the copyright extension concerns me more. Recommendations by some committee aren't going to do much. Also, I'm German and they could hardly make things any worse.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

Why does the Copyright extension worry you? My understanding was that artists wanted it extended so that they would still get payments for music they made years ago, here in the UK Cliff Richard has been going on about it as his earliest songs are about 50 years old now.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

The only problem to that is who's making all the the money, the CP owners and not the CP creators.

The intention of Copy right was to allow the CP creator absolute distrobutionary rights in a limited amount of time(10-20 years,ect)  in order for it to become a part of another free part of society after the CP creator has gotten all the worth they reasonably can out of it.

When you bring the conglomerates into the equation whatever assist to socity the CP work has is limited or destroyed due to due to endless repackaging and trying to copy whats successful by creating fake artists and canned art.

Because of the distrobutionary clauses in most world wide CP laws it exacerbates these issues, however if you ensure that free non profit distribution is untouched one could easily setup a CP rights system based on selling and trading profit rights to works ensure profit is protected and ensuring that the people can freely trade the works if the industry has not made them worth while.

 


Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.


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Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

I guess this could be ok depending on the reccomendations.

If it's things like obvious rating labels, ID checks, needing a parent to be informed etc. Then there's no real problem. They might already do this stuff in Europe though, I don't know.

If its stuff like "M rated games [or the equivalent in the EU] must be kept locked behind the counter"  or crap like that, then its just dumb.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

My expectation is that it will recommend things like having a poster or flyer instore that will explain the PEGI ratings, the age ones like 16+ are straightforward but the pictures that go along with them are a little ambigous like the Spider meaning the game contains scary scenes, when they did a survey of them a lot of people confused the image of two white blobs and a black blob as meaning multiplayer instead of scenes of racial discrimination.

If they really want to protect people from 'potentially harmful games' they should just get all shops to follow the old Woolworths model, lots of display cases of the same game but no copies actually in stock.

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

Why don't they just have text saying what's in the game, rather than having potentially confusing symbols?

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

Because the PEGI spans several languages and it is easier to have a set list of symbols than translate the text in  twenty differnet languages.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Euro Parliament Moves to Protect Kids from "Potentially ...

And the science backing this one up is where?

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