BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's CA Video Game Law

February 20, 2009 -

The 9th Circuit Court has affirmed a U.S. District Court decision which struck down California's 2005 violent video game law.

As GamePolitics reported last November, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit heard the state's appeal in Sacramento. In upholding the District Court's 2007 ruling, the 9th Circuit rejected several research studies presented by the states as failing to demonstrate a causal link between violent video game play and negative behavior:

Nearly all of the research is based on correlation, not evidence of causation, and most of the studies suffer from significant, admitted flaws in methodology.

The Court also rejected as unconstitutional a section of the law requiring retailers to label violent games with a four-inch square label with "18" printed on it.

Reactions to the ruling are beginning to come in. Jennifer Mercurio, Director of Government Affairs for the Entertainment Consumers Association, said:

We couldn’t be happier. Federal courts have found all nine legislative attempts to curtail the sale of violent video games invalid under the First Amendment, definitively showing that video games are protected speech, just like other content such as books, comic books, movies and music.

Bo Andersen, CEO of game retailers' group the Entertainment Merchants Association, said:

Retailers are committed to assisting parents in assuring that children do not purchase games that are not appropriate for their age. Independent surveys show that retailers are doing a very good job in this area, with an 80% enforcement rate, and retailers will continue to work to increase enforcement rates even further. The court has correctly noted that the state cannot simply dismiss these efforts.

I understand that some government officials will push for the state to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review this decision. The state should not acquiesce in this demand, particularly in light of its budget difficulties. The state has already wasted too many tax dollars, at least $283,000 at last count, on this ill-advised, and ultimately doomed, attempt at state-sponsored nannyism.

ESA CEO Mike Gallagher called the ruling "a win for California's citizens."

With the 9th Circuit's rejection of the California video game law, the question now becomes whether Gov. Schwarzenegger will appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

FULL DISCLOSURE DEPT: The Entertainment Consumers Association is the parent company of GamePolitics.

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Given that this is the most liberal court in the country, I frankly am not surprised. It's still good news and I hope this sends a message to politicians and the special interest groups that push this crap.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Another one bites the dust, another nail in the coffin.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Hey, Yo. SURVEY SAYS.......One More For The Good Guys!

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And another anti-video game law bites the dust.

Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too, another one bites the dust

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

How's about putting the barcode in bright red in stores, as opposed to marring the game boxes? Or having the violent/M rated games in a seperate glass case with the red barcode on them? Same positive effect, less negative one.


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 No, I don't support this at all. There's already the ESRB rating box on the game, why should M games be treated any differently? You can't give these people anything, or they will take everything.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

And that's why instead of finding a middle balance in any political matter, it's always one side or the other in power.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Any leniency will be taken as admitting guilt.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

This is good news,

 

first it was the end of California Budget Crisis then this.  At least some people make common sense.  I can hear JT crying for California's video game law failing and also the Utah video game law will fail also.  Double the epic fail for Jack Thompson.

 

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Well done, California SC.  Hopefully this is the end of the matter!

Also, I don't think it was the Fist Amendment she referenced there, Dennis ;)

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

The right to fist and be fisted is fundamental to a democracy. If fetishes are outlawed, only outlaws will have fetishes.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

I thought the Fist Amendment was the 16th

 

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Not too surprising, but it's still good to hear this.  Can't wait to see the follow-ups.

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Dennis, please, PLEASE link to the decision as soon as it's posted.  I'm eager to read the court's opinion.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

I doubt the video game law would be appealed to the supreme court, because california is in a budget crisis

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

I don't know. When they took it to this appeals court, they seemed pretty determined to take it to the USSC. But now with the current economic climate, it may be less likely.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Why? What's the cost involved? That of drafting and filing a petition for certiorari and having someone go argue the case for the State before the Court if it's granted? That's not breaking anyone's bank enough to pose a real obstacle. 

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Yes, but having lost twice in a row, it could be seen as a frivolous use of funds to try their hand at a third potential loss.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

I guess you can say "It WON'T be back". :P

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

More like: "Hasta la vista, baby"...

 

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

No, it's, "Hasta la vista, Billy!"

 

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Oh he will. There's still the Supreme Court.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

And how much will that cost? He can get a LOT of bad publicity from pushing something like this in the economic state that CA is in.

 

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Indeed. In this economy? With all the furlough days and layoffs? I'm sure most people are lucky enough to afford food for dinner, let alone GTA4.

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Not that much since, as stated by several people above, they probably wouldn't bother. "All districts in 9 different cases all came to the same decision? Pass. Do we have something interesting to go hard-boiled party-line over?"

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Is this also the bill that Mr. Yee claimed would be his last attempt at regulating games?

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

To be fair, the reason he said it was because he thought that this time it was going to work. Now that it has failed catastrophically, he's going to say something like "it was a misquote".

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

I'll believe it when I see it.

Or not see it, rather.

 

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

yes it is.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Does this prevent it from going to the USSC or can Cali make a run for it during their tough economic times?

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

CA could appeal to the Supreme Court, but from what I gather SCotUS probably wouldn't even bother to hear it.  SCotUS receives a lot more petitions for cert (a hearing) than it has time for so it usually only picks ones that raise interesting questions of law or that would resolve conflicts between different districts or circuits.  If any court had ever upheld game laws then it might be a more interesting case, but as it is SCotUS isn't going to step in to resolve a matter that lower courts seem to be handling just fine on their own.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

That is pretty much what  ithought. the games industry winning 9 out of 9 times is pretty good precedence itself. There is not a lot of need for a SCotUS ruling.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Gotta admit though if it did go in front of SCOTUS and lost that would hopefully be the stake in the vampires heart and we would see far less of these laws being made.

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

It's only 9 out of 9? This doesn't make it 10?

 

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

I was speaking actual laws, not court rulings. So this would make it 10 out of 10 for court rulings.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. ...

Actually, it'd be 11 out of 11(Minnesota's fine the buyer law being ruled unconstitutional in District and 8th Circuit Court of Appeals).

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Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

Was there any doubt?

Re: BREAKING - Appeals Court Terminates Gov. Schwarzenegger's

No, no there was not.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

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