Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

February 20, 2009 -

There was supposed to have been a hearing this morning in the Utah House of Representatives on HB 353, the video game/movie bill authored by disbarred attorney Jack Thompson and proposed by Rep. Mike Morley (R).

Late yesterday, however, the hearing was postponed.

We're speculating, but the reason for the delay may be related to the availability of Thompson ally Gayle Ruzicka (left) of the ultra-conservative Utah Eagle Forum.

The influential Ruzicka, who supports Thompson's bill and would almost certainly have appeared on its behalf, will likely be tied up this morning in an attempt to salvage the political career of another ally, Utah State Sen. Chris Buttars (R). Buttars is in hot water with Senate leadership over some ugly remarks he made about gay people for a documentary film. Buttars has been quoted as saying:

[Gay rights activists are] mean. They want to talk about being nice. They're the meanest buggers I have ever seen... It's just like the Muslims. Muslims are good people and their religion is anti-war. But it’s been taken over by the radical side.

What is the morals of a gay person? You can't answer that because anything goes... [The radical gay movement is] probably the greatest threat to America going down I know of.

Last year, Buttars caused similar outrage in the African-American community after he made offensive comments on the Utah Senate floor. Referring to an education bill then under consideration, Buttars said:

This baby is black... this is a dark, ugly thing.


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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Ok, just playing devils advocate here but there are some, repeat SOME, gay rights advocates that do step over the line. Just like there are animal rights activist that hurt human beings, anti-war protesters that incite violence, anti-logging activists who spike trees to cause bodily injury to the loggers, groups that talk about racial equality but treat other races like inferiors and so on.

Mind you, what this person said was wrong on so many levels and shows their own personal ignorance, however there is a small bit of reality, even if it's only a micron squared.

 

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Wow...the problem with a few people in the Eagle Eye forum is that there is a culture of hate.

That culture of hate stems from racism and homophobia that has been around since a long time ago and finally in the last few years society is starting to crack down on racism and homophobia.

 

Sadly there will always be a few people who will just don't get it.

 

And that is what needs to be happened more in society, not cracking down on videogames but just cracking down on that culture of hate amongst people who just can't understand how to respect the rights of people of different race and different sexualities to have a right for the freedom of choise like what the white majority do have.

 

 

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

First of all, I have to address the whole "black baby" comment.  Its really sad that we cannot mention a color anymore, without it being offensive to anyone.  For the record.  White people were not the only ones who participated in slavery in history, nor were black people the only ones who were enslaved in history.

 

But this is a videogame forum, so lets get to the topic at hand.  I think anything labeled with Jack Thompson is fail.  And anyone who associates with him needs to go fuck a duck.  Whoever would take advice from a  disbarred lawyer.....well you get the picture.  Do I personally think some videogames are too violent?  Hellz yes.  I refuse to play grand theft auto.  HOwever, I think its against peoples rights to keep them from making these, and keep them from buying these things.  

*end rambling*

Personally I believe we should be spending money on more important things, other than videogame legislation

Seriously, its all psychological

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

GTA lost its appeal to me when it went 3D. It's the same reason why in the first part of the Prince of Persia trilogy they didn't want blood in it, it's too much in the face when going from 2D or top-down to first/third person. First thing I did with PoP part 2 was turn the gore off.

Update to Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Have an update: They rescheduled to Monday afternoon with the meeting starting at 4:10PM Utah time:

http://le.utah.gov/asp/interim/Commit.asp?Year=2009&Com=HSTBUS

Click Agenda, it's the 5th bill of six they're planning to look at.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Ouch in other news related to Senator Chris "butt"ars

http://savemefrommysenator.com/101-reasons-to-get-rid-of-chris-buttars/

and after the stupid Statement, Expect Chris Buttars to end up becoming Worst person in the world(on countdown w/ Kieth olbermann again)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Wow!  After reading some of that, I'd say Jack and Buttars have an awful lot in common.  Talk about birds of a feather.  The Eagle Forum just seems to be a haven for extreme Right Wing douchebags.

Still, given Jack's ego, I'd bet anything that he's fuming mad that Gayle is giving Chris higher priority than him.  I can just imagine her going, "Sorry, John.  We've got to put this on the backburner right now.  Gotta help bail out one of our own.  You of all people should know about how making outrageous statements can get you in trouble.  We can't have another one of us losing our job over it."

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

I think we should give a shoutout to the guy who runs Save me from my senator

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

More old people scared to lose their control over everything they can get their hands on.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

"What is the morals of a gay person?"

Where is the grammar in that sentence?  I can't find it.

"You can't answer that because anything goes..."

O RLY?  A complex set of morals that differ from one individual to another.  There are nice gay people, mean gay people, mostly a mixed bag, and as far as their stances on political issues, it varies from individual gay person to indivudal gay person.  Basically, gay people are the same as straight people, except they want to have sex with people of the same gender.  I just answered that grammatical abortion of a question.

 

Oh, and make sure he doesn't hear about the new President of the United States everyone's been talking about.  His head would explode.  On second thought, do tell him.

 

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Senator Buttass.

 

 

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Moral of the story: If you become a senator(or hold any similar public office) and you have a last or first Name that can easily be changed, Dont do any controversial stuff(otherwise the people on every site will change the moron's name around to insult him(for example: Senator Chris Buttars: Senator Buttass being one of the names)[/sarcasm]


Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

African-Americans have recently been bitching about a lot of things. Don Imus' comments, RE5 being racist, the comic in the New York Post. Shut the hell up for fuck's sake!

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Can you blame them? After years of not being able to look a white person squarely in the eyes for fear of lynching? And having to say "Yessah" or "Yassim" with downcast eyes when addressing white people? Let 'em have some fun and get their bitch on. They've earned the right.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Jack Thompson claiming conspirancy in 3... 2... 1...

Well, I don´t understand who is this old woman, but I can see her job is pulling out people from their own crap. A hard work, I must say, because people like Jack Thompson actually likes to swim in his own filth.

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Dennis, Just to let you know where i found the article(The bit about the collassal D*ck move that the Utah State Sen. Chris Buttars likening some gays to radical muslims) the abc4 link came from Foolocracy.com(and since it wasn't a video game article I posted i put it in the off-topic Crazy news section)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

How is this guy in office?

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Any way you look at it, the postponing of this bill is not a good sign of its chances.  Legislatures have so many hours in the day and lots of other more important matters to discuss, and from all indications this bill was not a high priority to begin with...except for Jack.  By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if he spammed Ms. Ruzicka's email with angry comments about how his bill is more important than Sen. Buttars' predicament, "lives are at stake here," etc., etc.

Then again, considering JT is about as homophobic as Buttars is, maybe he'll be a tad more lenient on her, but I doubt it. 

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Jack being Jack, I'd guess he'd be sympathetic regarding Sen. Buttars. Whether that'd translate into anything resembling leniency is pretty much a coin toss.

-Gray17

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

It figures that Jack would find a racist and a bigot to sponsor his bill. None of this surprises me in the slightest.

 

The bill is dead. It will never see the light of day. Jack will QQ and scream, and then make all kinds of legal threats against us, the Utah Ag, and the Utah legislature. Which will accomplish absolutely nothing. Except maybe piss off the Utah AG, who begins an investigation into Jack's conduct, which leads to Jack's arrest for posing as a lawyer, when he is not.

 

Jack, a burger flipper at McDonald's is better than you. Usually, they're working a thankless job for little pay, trying to support a family. All you do is consume oxygen and add to the greenhouse gasses.

 

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

I'd call Gayle Ruzicka a gargoyle, but that would be an insult to gargoyles.

Seriously, though, the Metropolitian Moron of Miami must be starting to panic a little, as there's only three weeks left in the session, though we don't know if it will be rescheduled.

As nightwng said, a federal investigation against this hate group is needed.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Bigots such as this give actual conservatives a bad name.

I'm not sure what is worse.  The fact that bigots hold office or that people actually give their votes to them.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Leave it to neo-conservatives to ruin the image of true conservatives. And someone is gonna have to explain to me how can you save your political career after those two mayor league blunders from Buttars.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

Man, I have a hard time reading anything about that ass-hat Senator without thinking about Butters from South Park.

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Bill Postponed

I think that Butters Scotch would be a better senator anyways.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

Some people should just be killed off...  I hate to sound so violent, but this guys just doesn't deserve to live if he is that cruel.

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 i disagree they shold castrated 

preferably physically rather then chemicaly

 

this crap seams awfully Familiar... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_code#1954_Code_highlights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

Butters keeps my theory alive that Bigots never have just one group they are bigotted against.

Nor is it a surprise that the hate group Utah Eagles Forum is supporting him.

Nor is it a surprise that the Traitor John Bruce is a supporter of the Eagles Forum or that they are supporters of him.

This should be further evidence of questionable activities between the hate group the Utah Eagles Forums and political control over the Utah government.

How many other government hearings are put off because the schedule of someone who wants to lie and deceive... er... testify at the hearing conflicts with other political interference?

Clearly, there needs to be some sort of Federal investigation into the activities of the hate group the Utah Eagles Forum and the Utah state legislature.

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Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

Butters keeps my theory alive that Bigots never have just one group they are bigotted against.

I think you're half right. It looks like more than one, but it is really only one - "not like me".

 

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

it is really only one - "not like me".

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

Only in Utah,

Don't you see the type of mentality you're dealing with here? People who hate videogames are the most ass-backwards motherfuckers on the planet. They only wish to spread hatred.

I think their morality should be taken into consideration with this bill. These people aren't doing anything for society, they're against society.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

there's no way in hell to salvage something like that.

Re: Hearing on Utah Video Game Postponed

 Remind me again what this has to do with games?

 
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