NY City Council Speaker Will Call for Retail Boycott of Rape Game

February 23, 2009 -

The Speaker of the New York City Council is expected to denounce a controversial Japanese rape simulation game this morning on the steps of City Hall in Manhattan.

Councilwoman Christine Quinn (middle left) will hold a news conference in protest of RapeLay at 11:00 A.M. As GamePolitics has reported, the hentai game was recently removed from product listings on Amazon.com where a re-seller had been offering it for sale.

Quinn will be joined by the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. A press release announcing the event includes the following description:

A teenage video "game" simulating brutal gang rape and other horrifying sexual violence — just pulled by Amazon.com — will be the subject of a news conference hosted by [Quinn]... who will call on all U.S. video distributors to refuse its distribution or sale...

 

The "game" is now available in the U.S. market...

We should point out that RapeLay, while despicable, is not a product of the U.S. video game industry and is not rated by the ESRB.

UPDATE: Newsday has the first mainstream media coverage of today's press conference:

Amazon and eBay have already banned the sale of the game... but New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn said Monday that the game is available on other Web sites...

UPDATE 2: The photo at left is from the news conference. Speaker Quinn is in the middle. At left, holding artwork from RapeLay, is  Harriett Lessel, Executive Director of The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Of the game, Lessel said:

Video games of this nature are beyond appalling, and people of good conscience need to speak out against them. Sexual violence is a major problem in America and video games like this send the exact wrong message to young people. It tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls, and it tells girls they are worthless. The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault is hopeful that American distributors will reject this game and the aberrant behavior it promotes.


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I don't fully agree with that statement. While there's a biological imperative to procreate in men and women, Rape itself is not about sex. It's abou having power over the victim and rage, not inability to get laid. So perchance if we had no society, the only instance of rape might incur in the insane.

Plus even if we believe that passing down genes helps to insure things like musical acuity (though judging from the ammount of prodigies born to different sides of life I doubt it), the profiel for most rapists are not super geniuses.

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Rape is a viable form of procreation. Forced intercourse is rape. Power and rage are not connected. Life doesn't care how it's maintained, as long as it is. If we had no society, instances of rape would occur when a lusty male (Raping a man as a female is physically difficult, unless you have Viagra...) is surrounded by unconsenting females. Of course this depends on the person, but there are aggresive people out there.

Life doesn't care anything about "musical acuity". And rape is about strength, not skill. You don't have to be Eintstein to rape somebody. Just a brute.

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But most rapists don't comit rape to have children. They comit rape because they want to have power over someone and make them less them them (which stems out of rage).

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Heh. They'll only be grasping.

I wish I could see their face when they'll notice that this game has never been sold in the US.

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Politicians like this are the scum of america. When you knowingly pull stunts like this just to feed your own personal ego you are a despicable human being.

By the way I played this game a long time ago and if I were to protest this game I would complain about how awful this game is. It;s like watching paint dry.

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how could you play that? i've tried games like that before, and it is just...meh. for one thing, i don't read moonspeak, so most of the game is lost on me, and for another, it is just like you described...watching paint dry. i never understood people who played those games.

 

It is not murder; I am merely advancing the hands of the clock, just a bit.

It is not murder; I am merely advancing the hands of the clock, just a bit.

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Hey, let's call for the boycott of something not sold here! We win either way! Go Politics! :D 

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I'd like to think some good will come out of this.  Perhaps someone will think, "Wait, this game is actually being sold... in JAPAN!  Maybe that's where we should focus our anti-rape messages."  And then they do, and a beneficial change in Japanese culture comes about.

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What kind of "beneficial change in Japanese culture" are you thinking about?

 

Andrew Eisen

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I'm thinking that the "beneficial change in Japanese culture" would be the one that destigmatizes women who've been raped.  Will I get argument from you on that, too?

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I'd say that would be a beneficial change but are you sure stigmatizing women who've been raped is a part of Japanese culture?

 

Andrew Eisen

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That's the report from a former teacher I had who'd spent 20 years there (the subject was Japanese language, and culture featured heavily in his classes).  Their views on sex aren't quite the same (and why should they be), but the rape facet was reminiscent of the pre-feminist views in the United States.

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Exactly what I was thinking...

That strays dangerously into the territory of thinking that something is worse because it's different, and judging people who aren't you based on your own values.

I'd be careful with shit like that. Seriously.

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Not everything in another culture has to be protected, you know.

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That's a rather poor statement. You are basically saying, "We are America. These are our morals. Follow them, we command it."

Now, first of all...how much do you honestly know about the Japanese culture? Granted, I don't know much, but...have you ever lived in Japan for, say, six months? A year? More? How many Japanese people do you personally know? If any, have you ever discussed their culture?

What you are coming off as saying, is Japanese support rape. I am certain that is not the case; while they may have sexual entertainment of such fantasies, well, so do we, here in the US. But that's all it is. Fantasy.

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You're putting words in my mouth.  Don't try going down the "you're an ethnocentrist" route, because it won't work here.

I've never spent time in Japan.  My reports are from a former Japanese language instructor who spent twenty years there.  He stated that their views on rape were comparable to the way they were here in the US many years ago, where the crime reflects poorly on the woman and carries a deep stigma.  I suggest that refocused efforts on Eastern cultures could bring about a comparable, and dare I say good, change.

Unless you think their maintaining that stigma is a good thing.  In that case, I know exactly who I can sic the women's studies department on.

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And have you done any research prior to that? How long ago did you have this instructor?

Furthermore, I could easily argue since you want to change their cultulre, that we should change our culture, say, to be more Middle Eastern. Because, they could argue that it would be beneficial for us.

What you essentially want is a forced change on another culture that is not even yours, and quite possibly/probably never has been. Sure, you may have heard it from someone who lived in Japan for many years, but to truly understand a culture, you must live among them, and embrace in that culture.

While I have my own opinions, regardless of the people and their practices, I would not wish a forced change upon them, but an internal change that stems from their own discontent or what ever is wrong.

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If you're not willing to accept my instructor's word, then what difference would it make if I had done so myself?  You'd just denigrate that, instead.

How about the Japanese soaps that make that part of their culture part of a storyline?  In that case, a character had been raped, it was secret, and a blackmailer threatened her career with that information.  Are you going to now tell me that I can't draw inferences from their own programming?  (Probably so, it wouldn't surprise me.)

And nobody is suggesting a "forced change".  I'm saying that anti-rape groups should introduce their arguments to the Japanese culture.  If you do not introduce a change agent, then there will never be that "discontent".

While I'm at it, just how much do you know about Japanese culture?  It would seem that the answer is "not a whole lot", because you expect people there to be vocal about wanting a cultural change when that's exactly the sort of thing the Japanese tend not to do.  Maybe it's time YOU do some damn research.

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Why is rape supposedly worse than murder? Because the victim is still around to feel the after effects? Sorry but that doesn't hold up. What about the family of the victim left behind after a murder? Given a choice, can we really speak for everybody in saying they'd rather be murdered than raped? I think that what it comes down to once again is sex. What about attempted murder where, hypothetically, the victim is left permanently crippled? Same deal as rape. Why is it OK for there to be a plethora of mainstream games out there which basically promote murder (Manhunt1/2)? but something involving sex is automatically worse? Give me a break. If you've ever played a game like Manhunt and enjoyed it, you have no place speaking ill of this game. The hypocrisy of humans is disgusting. Who in their right mind would rather have their head cut off by some serial killer than be raped and still able to live life? Yeah rape changes people, it damages them mentally for life but so do a lot of other things. Hello, murder and rape are huge problems everywhere in the world. Yet virtually every single game out there contains some degree of murder.

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Ever talked to a rape victim? I have, interviewed many of them while working in a prosecutor's office. Know what the attempted suicide rate is among sexual assault victims? It's pretty damn high.

Pretty fair to say a fairly large number of rape/sexual assault victims think its worse than death.

Additionally, even in games like Manhunt, the overall goal of the game is not simply to kill as many people as possible. There is a story to play it.

In a game like RapeLay there IS NOT POINT except the rape. The plot of the game is to rape.

That makes a difference, there is no interest in playing the game beyond the fact that you get to rape people. It isn't just because "rape is worse than murder."

While I do agree with you that, at least in American society, there is this hyper sensitivity to issues regarding sex that doesn't exist when you consider violence, the issue is more complex than you are presenting it as.

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Being you talked to so many rape victims then you should also know the main thing said to console them are things like "You still have your life" and "You aren't defined by one event". Similar effects can be said of all violent crimes as well to varying degrees. People who are mugged may become paranoid, and people who are shot may begin to re-evalute their view on gun control or go out and buy a gun for protection. Thus is the effect of a crime.

There is a "bad end" for this game from what I've been told btw, and there isn't much of a motive past revenge or just violence in some games. Well we have GTA has "consiquences" you can easily cheat those with codes as most people do. The police don't pursue much when you gun down a crowd of people, women only if you choose, then fly across the water to go pick up ahooker. Helicopter pursuit? Just shoot the police or military chopper down with a god modded rocket launcher. The main draw of the Grand Theft Auto series is supposedly its' sandbox gameplay and not the plot or missions.

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Unfortunatly one of the underlying reasons that rape is so traumatic is that american sociaty still has the idea that a woman's value is the virtue she can bring to her husband, therefore rape takes away from her primary value as a human.

This does not deminish, in any way, how people feel about being raped.  It does, however, bring to light a bit of nasty stealth sexism still in our sociaty that people do not like talking about... and one of the root reasons these people feel so horrible about what they went through.

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For me, the absolute worst is when someone you care about dies from a medical ailment like cancer or a brain tumor.  Why?  Because unlike with rape and murder, there's no one to blame.

 

Andrew Eisen

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All that "Teaches kids" crap is immediately knocked aside by the fact that this is a PORNOGRAPHIC video game. "Kids" aren't supposed to be playing it at all.

 

I commend these people for there efforts to prevent sexual assault, but they need to make sure they know what they speak of.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Not only that but since it is a pronographic game it is all ready illegal to sell the game to children.

So they're condemning a piece of pornography for not being appropriate for children.

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Though we got to take into consideration that these type of people believe that video games are a kids toy and ignore all evidence that adults play games (prob more then kids)

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They think most hobbies that started with kids end with kids. 

GameSnooper

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For those interested, the NYC Council's webpage is

http://council.nyc.gov/html/home/home.shtml

They actually have a link on the side to "let them know" if you see RapeLay being sold.

I submitted a comment as follows

This video game is NOT being sold by any retail store IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

RapeLay is a JAPANESE video game, produced by a Japanese company, in Japan.

There is NO official commercial version of this game in the ENGLISH language.

The ONLY way to obtain this video game in the U.S. is to either

1) Import it directly from Japan (are you suggesting private importations should be illegal)

OR

2) By it direct from a private seller who imported the game. While this may be done through a service such as Ebay or Amazon it is NOT being "sold" by those retailers.

In either case, to actually play it on an American computer would require an unofficial (and some could argue illegal) "English language mod" create by other users. It is not available for commercial sale.

NO retail store in the country sells this game. Despicable as it is, this is a complete non-issue.

Basically Madame Speaker you are basically asking retailers to NOT sell a product THEY HAVE NEVER SOLD.

Asking mainstream retailers like "GameStop" or Wal-Mart to "stop" selling this game is like asking Barnes and Noble to stop selling Playboy. Pointless and a waste of the responsibilities the taxpayers have asked you.

Isn't New York City (where my family still resides) in serious economic trouble? Maybe you should look into that instead of focusing on an issue that does not exist.

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here's what I sent:

contrary to your claims, Amazon, eBay and Overstock didn't pull the game because of it's content, they pulled it because the resellers violated their Terms of Use: the developers forbade the game from being sold outside of Japan. Because of this, it will NEVER officially be in English, much less be found in a store in the US, ever. Sorry to be blunt, but you can't cherry-pick when judging something: there are two endings in the game, both of which resulting in the rapist getting killed, which is contrary to your claim that this game "tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls"

In short: You can't boycott a product that isn't legally sold in the region you live in.

My apologies if I sound rude at any point in this, I don't like the public to be misinformed of any controversies, especially when, aside from the controversy, something wouldn't have sold in the first place

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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One small problem, not sure if it works like this in Japan, but here in the US you can resell such products if you have purchased or imported it.  If I were to release a CD and sell it to people, I don't have the right to tell people they can't resell it, nor do I have the right to tell them where they are allowed to resell it. 

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the developers also prohibited exporting the game, which is what resellers need to do to get the game out of Japan

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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The Barnes and noble in my area sells Playboy, Where are you shopping? But I get the idea behind the message and said basically the same thing, but my sarcasm was turned up way high at the beginning.

Yes, I saw it being sold. I saw it sold on a Japanese adult game site. Although I am unable to read Japanese, I recognized the cover. How dare those Japanese adult game websites transmit their data on a global internet into the United States of America.

Was that not what you were expecting?

The game was sold by a random guy on a site that allows random guys to sell their stuff through said site. He most likely bought it from one of those Japanese sites I mentioned above.

This game is not available in any actual retail outlet in the United States. How you were so ignorant of the matter is beyond me. You most likely saw all the controversy over it from Keith Vaz that you just felt that it would be a great way to score brownie points with women and parents.

Try doing some actual research on these matters. If you were to do a search for the game on the ESRB (Entertainment Software Ratings Board) web site (www.esrb.org) you would find absolutely no mention of it anywhere as they have not received it for rating.

If you were to call up any game retailer in your area such as GameStop or Best Buy before making your comments you would have been met with a lot of people who have no idea what game you were talking about and they would be unable to find it in their inventory as the game is not available in the US.

The only way you can find the game in the US is to either import it from the previously mentioned Japanese adult game websites or from someone who has previously imported the game.

Thank you for your time.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

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That was a great initiative (not too rude, not too soft).

Keep us updated if they answer back.

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Um, last time I checked this game is not avalible anywhere in the US. (not counting the internet)

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Ok, responce to the update. How is this teaching young men to be sexually violent and women as worthless when this game comes from a country that is known for this kind of stuff, has tons of these games, yet, have some of the lowest crime rates in the world?

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To be fair, while Japan has low violent crime rates,  from talking to girls I've known from Japan I've gotten the distinct impression that crimes like rape have massive underreporting (significant shame, blame the victim, and low probabilty the police will actually help) and it is generally felt that violence against women is at least on-par if not a greater problem then the US.

Unfortunatly I have no statistics to back this up (part of the problem with under reporting). 

Though one thing to keep in mind with the US is that a LOT of resources and social engineering have gone into getting the report rates up by de-stigmatizing rape and assuring people that the police will do something about it. 

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It's also a matter of honour-payments in Japan, apparently, cases can be settled out of court with cash-payments, and so that helps keep the rates down because cases that are resolved in that manner are not considered guilty pleas.

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 You disappoint me once again Dennis. Every time you've posted a story about this game you've managed to throw in some line about how it's 'despicable' or some similar term.

I know this has been mentioned by other people, but it seems a bit hypocritical to be taking such a hard stance against this game when you are quite clearly against the notion that something like GTA4 is harmful or horrific in some way.

Personally, I have no problems at all with this game. It's a bit odd, and I'm not sure if I would be into playing it, but I'd have no bad words to say about anyone who enjoyed it.

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Yeah...

Peronally.. on a subjetive level.. this game ISNT for me. TBH i really find it VERY unpleasant, and have ZERO desire to play it. On that part i am 1000000% agreed.

However.. to say that it is despicable ( i presume this is a moral commentary)... i dont get how mass murder in GTA IV is 'better' or 'not despicable'. In fact in a bizaare way, you could say that looking at the real crimes, that (debatably) the consequences of murder are technically MORE severe than rape.. (honestly not trying in ANY way to downplay the absolute awfulness  of rape here btw). But for some reason one is 'despicable' and the other isnt... The real crimes are both awful. But i thought that the whole argument FOR games like GTA being allowed.. is that this is fictional..

At What particular point does the fact that something is 'fictional' apparently stop being a defence to including it in a game/film/book?

Why  is fictional mass murder not 'despicable', yet fictional rape is...

More importantly.. who is the one who makes the judgement call? Surely if that judgement is subjective, you enter dangerous grounds... and are no better than JT claiming GTA should be banned because of a personal objection to them.

Hence i believe that an objective view needs to be taken. I may not like this game, i may never want to play it, heck i may or may not even personally think that anyone who does want to play it is a nutjob, but i couldnt sit back and say this should be banned and GTA shouldnt.. for no other reason than bcause 'I say so'. That would be REALLY hypocritical after fighting for the right to play Games like GTA.

Just wondering (in a non critical way... just from a philosophical debate viewpoint)  if GP could clarify the views on this one. Its a REALLY interesting debate, with a lot of heated and conflicting views. Havent seen an issue divide the GP community so much in a long while!.

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It's unfortunate that this piece of hardcore pornography was found by a journalist browsing the Internet for some sensationalist stories. The whole story (typically) has been blown out of proportion. The porno (it's not a video game in the common sense of the term it's interactive porn) is not available on general release in the States or in the West.

The existence of such material helps people to jump on the bandwagon of games being evil and unknown (eg Do you know what your children are up to on their own in front of screen?). Whether or not the politician in question knows the truth about the game is unknown, but of course it's an easy campaign to support and an easy bandwagon to jump on.

It of course helps to promote this image of games makers trying to corrupt children and in this case helping to reinforce a perception some people have that teenage boys are sexually aggressive and that female rights still have a long way to go.

No doubt the general public will assume that the games industry behind GTA is behind Rapelay and believe further the "corrupt morals" of the industry. I don't see any comments that make the distinction between this game from a Japanese pornographic specialist and normal games.

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The truely depressing part of this is that it is a wonderful example of the gay community, now that it isn't completely fringe, turning on the other alternative sexuality communities and offering them up for sacrifice to it's new mainstream allies.

"look! we aren't radical! we can help you take down the REAL perverts!"

I can't decide if the word 'depressing' or 'disgusting' better applies.. but it is making me increasingly question how much support I should have for the modern gay rights movement and community.

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Now that is one hell of a stretch, trying to link the existence of a Japanese pornographic game aimed at heterosexual men with that of gay rights.

Example:

"There's a game you play a man raping women."

- "This all the fault of gay people that this game exists."

- "Thanks to gay people, people who enjoy rape are now criticised. Look at the bad work of gay rights."

 

I honestly don't know your logic. So because gay people aren't discriminated it's bad because rape now gets criticised?

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I think we ended up on differnt pages here.

The councilwoman is an active member of the gay rights movement.

One of the things the higher ups in that movement has been doing over the last decade or so is slowly casting out other sexual freedom groups.  The relavent one in this case would be the BDSM community since rape play and other forms of concentual sexual violence/domination are a major part of that community.

Attacking the existance of games like this it is a backhanded attack on communities that DO integrate this kind of fantasy into thier sexuality.  She is saying that it is NOT ok to have this kind of fantasy, and it is not worth the risk of people developing this kind of fantasy. 

The same kind of argument used for why one should not see gay characters in movies/tv/games... the risk that others might relate and follow such interests.  So she (along with others) are using an anti-gay argument against other groups in order to deflect such arguments away from her own community. 

It is esp frustrating, in the BDSM case, since the gay rights community got SO much support from the BDSM community for decades and now that the gay leadership's possition has changed they have decided to turn on their old allies rather then return the help.

This is also a classical example of why liberal movements do so poorly compared to concervative movements.  Unfortunatly XYZ rights groups have a bad habbit of working together till one of them gains some level of acceptance and then sides with the people they were fighting, against their old friends.

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Yes your argument makes more sense, although I would be more inclined to say that this issue is due to feminism rather than gay rights, and anyway it's really about cheap political point scoring over an issue that just about everyone would support.

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*nods* this specific issue yes, falls more on feminism then gay rights.  The individual though is part of both movements.

Though feminism actually makes an interesting example it'self.  Durring second wave feminism you generally got the effect that i'm worried about here... specificly one type of woman leading the movement and once it got strong enough pushing other types to the side.... by the 70s and 80s feminism could be described as 'freedom for women! as long as you choose the way we think is best for the gender'.

3rd wave however is trying to reverse this and build some of those bridges again.  You get a lot of resistance from the older feminists to this new, inclusive/supportive arrangement but the younger ones often do put energy into helping groups of women that were kinda cast asside in previous decades.

If this model follows, we might see the gay movement, in about 20 or 30 years, finally trying to rebuild.. but it is questionable who will be listening by then if things do not reverse.

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Thankyou.

A rational person after my own heart. I've been waiting for someone to say that.

I agree 100%, and just had to post to say so.

The point here is that gaming revolves, like all fiction, around fantasy. Every person has a different type of fantasy that they enjoy; be it sexual or otherwise.

We either respect all, or oppress all.

And really, there is only one choice.

This game depicts a crime... however enjoying the game is NOT one.

GTAIV depicts crimes, but enjoying the game is NOT one.

This game is not despicable. It's a fantasy, which can be enjoyed by anyone. The real life act itself is despicable, but that's all, and that's all there is to it.

Believe me when I tell you that you people shouting out about how terrible the existence of this game is... you'd probably be shocked at how many people in your street/workplace/social circle/life would find it's content enjoyable... and without being bad people, criminals or rapists.

Sometimes I really wonder about people.

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Um the speaker is a known lesbian if above comments are correct.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

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... BUT IT'S NOT AN AMERICAN MADE GAME! And, even IF Amazon and eBay ban the game, you can probably still get in on Play-Asia. You're doing NOTHING by calling for a boycott. If anything, you're ENCOURAGING that people buy it.

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"It tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls, and it tells girls they are worthless."

No it doesn't.

 

Andrew Eisen

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exactly: both endings have the rapist killed by one of his victims

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

 
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E. Zachary KnightI agree that the kid should be punished, but the charge and sentence seem a bit overboard to me. http://nationalreport.net/15-year-old-swatted-domestic-terrorism/08/31/2014 - 6:56pm
Andrew EisenI get a "page doesn't exist."08/31/2014 - 11:50am
MaskedPixelantehttps://twitter.com/Nevelets/status/506076879309508608 What we're currently supposed to be offended by, or whatever.08/31/2014 - 10:10am
MechaTama31AE: Probably snarky commentary on this: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2014/08/29/principle-player-leland-yee-arms-trading-case-dies08/30/2014 - 8:43pm
Andrew EisenConster - Don't know. Got a link to whatever you're referring to?08/30/2014 - 7:04pm
ConsterWait, what's this about Leland Yee eliminating witnesses?08/30/2014 - 5:50pm
IanCBroke my EA boycott to pick up Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare. Loving it. Still hate EA though. But i like Popcap. Gah.08/30/2014 - 6:01am
MaskedPixelantehttp://m.tickld.com/x/something-you-never-realized-about-guardians-of-the-galaxy Right in the feels.08/29/2014 - 6:56pm
AvalongodAgain I think we're conflating the issue of whether Sarkeesian's claims are beyond critique (no they're not) and whether its ever appropriate to use sexist language, let alone physical threats on a woman to intimidate her (no it isn't)08/29/2014 - 5:04pm
prh99Trolling her or trying to assail her integrity just draws more attention (Streisand effect?). Which is really not what the trolls want, so the only way to win (if there is a win to be had) is not to play/troll.08/29/2014 - 5:02pm
prh99Who cares, just don't watch the damn videos if you don't like her. Personally, I don't care as far as she is concerned as long there are interesting games to be played.08/29/2014 - 4:34pm
Andrew EisenZip - And yet, you can't cite a single, solitary example. (And no one said you hated anyone. Along those lines, no one claimed Sarkeesian was perfect either.)08/29/2014 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenSaint's Row: Gat Out of Hell was just announced for PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One making it the 150th game For Everything But Wii U! Congratulations Deep Silver!08/29/2014 - 3:49pm
ZippyDSMleeI do not hate them jsut think its mostly hyperlobe.08/29/2014 - 3:40pm
 

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