NY City Council Speaker Will Call for Retail Boycott of Rape Game

February 23, 2009 -

The Speaker of the New York City Council is expected to denounce a controversial Japanese rape simulation game this morning on the steps of City Hall in Manhattan.

Councilwoman Christine Quinn (middle left) will hold a news conference in protest of RapeLay at 11:00 A.M. As GamePolitics has reported, the hentai game was recently removed from product listings on Amazon.com where a re-seller had been offering it for sale.

Quinn will be joined by the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. A press release announcing the event includes the following description:

A teenage video "game" simulating brutal gang rape and other horrifying sexual violence — just pulled by Amazon.com — will be the subject of a news conference hosted by [Quinn]... who will call on all U.S. video distributors to refuse its distribution or sale...

 

The "game" is now available in the U.S. market...

We should point out that RapeLay, while despicable, is not a product of the U.S. video game industry and is not rated by the ESRB.

UPDATE: Newsday has the first mainstream media coverage of today's press conference:

Amazon and eBay have already banned the sale of the game... but New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn said Monday that the game is available on other Web sites...

UPDATE 2: The photo at left is from the news conference. Speaker Quinn is in the middle. At left, holding artwork from RapeLay, is  Harriett Lessel, Executive Director of The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Of the game, Lessel said:

Video games of this nature are beyond appalling, and people of good conscience need to speak out against them. Sexual violence is a major problem in America and video games like this send the exact wrong message to young people. It tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls, and it tells girls they are worthless. The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault is hopeful that American distributors will reject this game and the aberrant behavior it promotes.


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The crueler side of me wants to suggest a caption competition for that photograph that's just been added, seriously, could they have picked a more inopportune moment to snap a photograph?

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The amount of idiocy/ignorance in the conference disgusts me so much that I think we should have a caption contest.

Here's mine

"Ok the rapist's penis in the game is this long. How are real rapists supposed to feel good about themselves when they have such unrealistic role models?"

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"Video games of this nature are beyond appalling, and people of good conscience need to speak out against them. Sexual violence is a major problem in America and video games like this send the exact wrong message to young people. It tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls, and it tells girls they are worthless. The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault is hopeful that American distributors will reject this game and the aberrant behavior it promotes."

Once again, another example of politicians who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Another example of someone who is allowing their emotions to blind their senses and steer them in a completely wrong direction. Now, how shall I dissect this?....

"...video games like this send the exact wrong message to young people. It tells boys it’s okay to sexually assault girls, and it tells girls they are worthless."

One, this isn't marketed towards "young people", only adults.

Two, the game has a fictitious setting and scenario: if someone were raped in real life and the rapist was caught afterwards, the rapist would go to jail.

Three, since this game is marketed to adults, I assume that only adults play it (if you allow your child to play this game, you are a bad parent. Smack yourself across the face as hard as you can, then take the game away). An adult, unlike a child, knows the difference between right and wrong, and can fully grasp the consequences of unlawful behavior, discussed in No. 2. Also, I doubt many women play this game; the game does not exactly cater to women, nor is there a gender selection option at the start of the game.

"The New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault is hopeful that American distributors will reject this game and the aberrant behavior it promotes."

American distributors can easily say they don't carry the game all they want, because they probably never carried it in the first place.

Though I do commend the NYCAASA for existing and striving to prevent actual sexual assault, I think both them and Ms. Quinn dropped the ball on this one.

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lol as some1 else stated earlier...

''Not even that. The manufacturer clearly express on their website that they aren´t allowed to sold their game in foreing countries.''

so the maufacturer isnt even allowing it to be sold in the US anyway...

so this whole thing to 'stop american distributers' carrying it.. yeah... waste of time since they cant  carry it anyway.

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Wait 'till they find the other Illusion games... Their heads will explode!

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Wait until they find... the internet...

Because that people obviously don´t any idea what are talking about.

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I present to you, GPers, with a hypothetical situation: what I would do if I were allowed to speak at the news conference:

"Hello, everyone. I hope you are all doing well."

"If I could, I'd like for everyone to take part in a quick little study. Right now, I'd like for all the cameras to point towards me, to protect the anonimity of the participants, please. Now..."

"If anyone here in the audience thinks that a person masturbating to simulated rape games are worse than actual physical rape, I'd like for you to please stand up at this moment....Okay, thank you. You may sit back down."

"If anyone here believes that actual physical rape, meaning a person goes out into the streets, kidnaps someone (doesn't matter who), takes that person to an unspecified location, and rapes them, is worse than that same person masturbating to an animated rape game, a porn game with a fictitious scenario involving cartoon women being raped by a cartoon man, please stand up now."

"...That's what I thought. I rest my case."

...I should probably include something along the lines of "This game is only sold and marketed to adults, it is not available on the open U.S. market, it's probably only sold at adult entertainment expos and/or the hentai manufacturer's website, etc., etc., etc."

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"This game is only sold and marketed to adults, it is not available on the open U.S. market, it's probably only sold at adult entertainment expos and/or the hentai manufacturer's website, etc., etc., etc."

Not even that. The manufacturer clearly express on their website that they aren´t allowed to sold their game in foreing countries.

You would lost your case if you forgotten to mention that. Not to forget to explain what "hentai" means.

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Ahh. Thanks for pointing that out.

See, kids! It's great to learn! Cause knowledge is power!

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Polis needs a brain.....

 


Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.


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Only in a perfect world. Trying to incorporate common sense and politics is like trying to put a hungry shark in a small, waterless barrel with a few fish inside. If you expect it to live an approximate two days, then you've already failed.

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At least the Newspaper coverage was pretty balanced about it, and didn't go off on a 'Those Ebil Vidya Games' direction, so hopefully that means that she also didn't do that.

Of course, the problem is that the game is apparently several years old, which wasn't mentioned, and no attempts had been made up to this point to sell it in the US, and when an attempt was made, from the looks of it, it was by a 3rd-party reseller, not the company themselves?

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If there were any stores carrying it, they'd be adult entertainment stores. None of the major retail stores would carry AO rated games, so you won't be finding it at Wal-Mart anytime soon. Besides, I doubt anybody would even know what's going on since it's in Japanese.

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

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Actually, some hentai games come with the choice to switch from Japanese and English voice actors/actresses and Japanese/English subtitles.

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not this one, the english version was a text-hack/fan-translation

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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I always knew the politicians would start decrying the obscure porno games either out of desperation or breathtaking ignorance/stupidity.

I wonder which this is.

I bet the makers of rapeplay are loving the free publicity.

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With this controversy, I wonder if for an obscure company like J-List, which releases hentai games (with a few, though not nearly a majority, of the titles being “dark” games like this) would pick up the US license to this and translate it in an effort to try to cash in on the publicity at the risk of becoming “an enemy to society”.

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It could happen, but I doubt they'd be that bold.

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Politicians could have a field day with some of the stuff you find on J-list.  xD

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I'm sure. So don't sell any on Amazon.

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 I have my money on the fact they're not even aware of it, and if they knew they would laugh... I would

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I think the jelly tits of Sexy Beach 2 are obscuring their attention.

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Sexy Beach 2? There is already the third installement, lol...

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I want to e-mail her so badly, but she doesn't appear to have a public e-mail. She needs to get her facts straight before this whole thing becomes more polarized than it needs to be. Rapelay is a disgusting game and I know that i've been very vocal about it. But ever since I poured out my hatred into the comments box a couple weeks ago, I understand more things that I feel i've been blind to.

The facts?
-The reseller had the right to sell the game for a few bucks, but he just chose the wrong place to do it. eBay would've been more appropriate.

-RapeLay was made for a Japanese audience. An audience that somewhere between the lolicon and the tentacles the West may never fully understand. The problem with this game was that it delve into depictions of rape that boggles the mind and are only fapped to by sex offenders, troubled people, and people who need a scapegoat to lengthen their political careers.

-Games like this get imported all the time. If they're not imported, they are downloaded. Unless it's covered in anthrax or holds several codes that can hack into the Pentagon, the people have the right to play them. We can look at them in disgust, but who are we to tell them what's right to play and what isn't? Unless they brag about it, then you may want to counsil them with talking or a nutshot. Your pick.

I want this controversy to die. Controversy, like shock rock, sells. Grand Theft Auto has become popular partially because of this and I don't foresee the complainers grasping this concept anytime soon. This game doesn't belong in the spotlight. It's repulsive, it's a cheap Fox News fodder, and the fact that few suits and politicians recognize that it's an import-only deal doesn't seem to cross thier path. This is one of those games that we need to ignore. You ignore a game, it becomes obscure, and the most it could become is one of those games you find listed on Wikipedia or brought up on a show about bad games.

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Hrrm...

"Teenage Video Game"

"Available for the US market"

No. No it isn't.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Any mainstream news sites picking it up?  I haven't found it yet.

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I'm curious to see what Fox News' take is going to be.  Maybe they can get Cooper Lawrence out again?

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""The "game" is now available in the U.S. market...""

>.>;;;  Cause you know, the internet is totally the US, and that game is totally sold in stores...oh, wait.

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and so the ignorance cannon fires off again creating another controversy where there shouldnt

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I'm going to scream. Loudly. This is going too far and i'm starting to feel guilty for my comments.

How can these people be so oblivious to facts?! HOW? FOR FUCKS SAKE!

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What were your previous comments that make you feel guilty?

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Being totally against rape and hentai incorperating rape I went off on this game in the comment section on the story about it being taken off of Amazon. And for those paying attention, I still belive that the people who made it still deserve a punt in the ballsack.

I'm also suprised how split everyone was on the matter when that poll came around, it was close.

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Now THERE is someone who needs to be charged with Fraudulent and Deceptive Advertising.

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''A teenage video "game" ''

 

a what what?

how is this unrated game a 'teenage' game?

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Because "gamez r juzt for teh kidz" mentality that people use to carry even when there´s a half-naked woman in the cover of many game boxes-cases.

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Given that this is unavailable in the United States, this will only give the game free publicity.  Great job.

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Why focus on this untranslated rape game?

J-List (and companies they own, Peach Princess, G-Collections, a couple others) (games include, but not limited to, Sensei 2, Tsuki - Possession)  and Kitty Media (the infamous game "Bible Black") have released multiple games with rape commercially in the US .  Even better is the new European company MangaGamer has or will release in English(via downloads) titles such as "suck my dick or die", My Classmate is a sex slave" and other such games.  Unoffical translations exist for games such as Gang Rape Club" (Dark Translations).  Why go after a title that isn't available in English, there are plenty of other titles that are more relevant.

 

 

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Shhh...perhaps if they don't "know" they exist they wont say anything :)

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 but those games haven't been pull from amazon...

 

why risk going after something, that you can't win against, when you can claim a boycot of a game, and then come back a week later and say her boycott was sucessful as it's not in the US market anymore.

I wouldn't put it pass them.

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I know it's been said but really? Teenage video game? WTF does that mean? And I still don't get GPs logic about it being dispicable but since the answer is never posted perhaps it's the same logic that many of the others who want it banned follow?

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yeah, have to say i agree with you on this one..

teenage game wtf.

and im a bit surprised at GPs logic too. Dont get me wrong.. rape is despicable. But i just find it kinda hypocritical to imply that pulling this game / any steps to restrict the sale of thei game are a GOOD thing, whilst fighting for the right to play games like GTA.

rape is an awful crime, but so is mass murder. I dont see the logical distinction as to why one should be accepted and another shouldnt.

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 Well, it is rape... that in of itself is dispicable, there's really no explanations needed on that one...

but how did the saying go, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".   

 

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Nowadays it tends to be along "I dissapprove of what you say, never say it again, or else"

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A quick google search hit this page council.nyc.gov/d3/html/members/home.shtml with her contact info and so on, including press contact info.  Might be worth disabusing her office of this notion if someone hasn't already.

Additionally, I suppose it couldn't hurt, if we have anyone in the area, to get in touch with the local papers and make this whole thing the laughingstock it is.

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So wait.. they're calling for a boycot of a game that's not sold in the vast majority of retail outlets in the USA? 

This seems like another waste of time from NY.  At least they've got a better senator than Hillary Clinton now.

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"At least they've got a better senator than Hillary Clinton now."

There really was no need for that, but I'm glad you were able to voice your opinion. Besides, Senator Gillibrand (D) is still in her first 100 days: you don't know how things could turn out with her until later. That's why I'm caustiously optimistic for Obama: in my opinion, I don't think he's screwed up just yet.

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Really, what do you expect from someone fueled entirely by a blind hatred of Hilary and Obama?

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It's not a blind hatred, jackass.  It's more the fact that I view the constitution and amendments and bill of rights as documents not to be trampled on just because some people (Obama) don't like what the amendment entails.

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Oh, I forgot, I also hate people who waste Billions of dollars on individual states' pet projects that won't create or save jobs.  I also don't like people who are president without ever having produced their birth certificate for verification of birth in the USA.  McCain could do it, Biden could, Hillary could, Palin could.  Why can't Obama?  Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm less than excited about the prospect of watching American freedoms be restricted by the new Assault Weapons Ban that he wants, when he's never even proven himself to be American-born.

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He did produce a birth certificate you fucking idiotic jackass!  He's an American citizen grow a pair and learn to accept that, he won fair and square the American people voted for him.

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Its funny, you label any and all criticism of your mangod George W. Jesus - the guy who called the constitution you love "just a goddamn piece of paper" as "blind hatred", yet your hatred of anyone with a D by their name is perfectly justified? I tend to call that being a partisan asshole, with an emphasis on asshole. Apparantly you think spying on our own citizens is fine and dandy practices of patriotism, keeping people locked up indefinately without any charges is perfectly reasonable and torturing them is perfect, and banning equal rights for gay couples is perfectly justified, which are pretty much not constitution-friendly if you even bothered to pay attention to those documents you want followed.

And then you show how much flavor-aid you've been lapping up by bringing back up the birth certificate BS - its been proven, its been presented by the hospital, hell they've even found an archived copy of his birth announcement from the newspapers in Hawaii. Apparantly though, its not enough for you because you simply hate him wayy too much to let reality to soak in. Its that same hate, btw, that caused you to lose all three branches.

And now you're whining that you're not going to be allowed to keep AK-47s in your house. Whaa whaa whaa, the world is going to end because you can't cling to your assault weapons like a coward. Make sure you check under your bed each night for the boogeyman too, I here he's coming to get you.

I'm really sick of mouthbreathers like you who for eight years, eight long years, claimed that anyone who criticized George was a traitor deserving to be shot, and now Obama has barely been in office a month and you're calling for his head on a pike. You're the perfect representative for republicans today - bitter, spiteful,and hatefilled. I'm sure that just like your public mouthpiece Rush that you want him to fail, even if it results in the loss of american lives, just so your blind hatred can feel justified, because you believe in party over country. Well guess what, your party had their time, and they sucked. They sucked hard, and as a result, your party that does no wrong lost, and they lost bigtime. 

Now follow your own party's mantra from the last 8 years: accept it and like it, or you're a traitor.

 
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E. Zachary KnightAs an illustration, you can kill someone by shooting them in the head, or you can starve them to death. The means don't matter, just the ends.10/02/2014 - 8:18am
E. Zachary Knightquiknkold, I can't speak for James, but trying to silence a critic by blocking its financial supporters is a censorious activity. It may not be the same as direct censoring, but its ends are the same.10/02/2014 - 8:18am
E. Zachary KnightMecha, I found neither the title nor the content of Gamasutra's Gamers are Dead article inflammatory. But I guess that just means I was the target audience for it.10/02/2014 - 8:16am
 

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