Conservative Christian Site Slams Same-Sex Couple Option in Game of Life

March 13, 2009 -

The Christian conservative website WorldNetDaily has got its undies in a twist over an option that permits same-sex couples in Hasbro's The Game of Life.

The downloadable PC title is an update of the classic board game of the same name. WND writes:

The online version of a popular board game from many Americans' childhood includes an option for players to choose homosexual marriage and child-rearing as a way of life... even children can download and play a free trial version of The Game of Life, the first game ever created by Mr. Milton Bradley in 1860.

The player's first option in the online version is to choose a persona based on pictures that clearly depict men and women. Shortly thereafter, the game invites players to choose a spouse, regardless of the potential spouse's sex...

But, as WND notes, the modern version of the board game, created in 1960, allowed for gay unions as well:

The board game did not prevent players in any way from placing two pink or two blue pegs in the front seat [of the playing piece representing the family car], thus depicting a homosexual couple.

GP: Got this tip from none other than Jack Thompson during the course of seeking comment on last night's passage of the Utah video game bill.


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The vitriole on this topic is saddening.  It has taken me a lot of willpower to force myself to read beyond the foul insults and listen to the point some posters wish to make.  If you wish to promote your beliefs, I recommend that you consider your tone.  Some of the comments here border on threats, which would be a reason to have their posts removed. For my part, I have opted out of this thread as a result. 

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I think I speak for the rest of the world when I say....Only in America (apologies to the south American community etc.) I think this just comes down to one thing as a certain author recently put it. "Is Religion child abuse?" or as I would put it, is Religious doctrine abusive? I would say that in it's original form from the Latin 'religio' where it meant: to give reverence or to honor without explicitly speaking about Gods or men, it was not abusive. Do I think in the modern form that it is abusive,in a world the where children are brought up to hate and despise people who are different, where wars are fought over which version of technically the same God is the real one and where people are stupid enough to believe in the absolute truth of words of long dead men who were by definition only human? Yes, yes I do. How many people stood up and asked if the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church was homophobic with his recent declaration on the nature of the G.L.B. as 'unnatural' and how many of them were ready to point out that what he said was more damaging to many people in the world than the average biblical plague. Of course we don't need to look very far to find abuse or child abuse in other Christian denominations either, the Evangelical Christians and there so called "Hell houses" would be a good place to start where children many of whom have not reached the age of reason see people tortured and burned in so called everlasting hell. To quote a certain individual I'm sure the religious among you will value: Matthew 7:3-5 "3Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but(A) do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."

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So much irrational hate. WorldNetDaily is not by any definition mainstream they're far right loons and I've never seen any level-headed conservative bring them up as a source.

These are people who are convinced there is a big large homosexual or atheist agenda to persecute them, kill off God etc. etc. It's like the 'war on Christmas' on crack. They're basically the conservative equivalent of the conspiracy nuts who screech about big government conspiracy.

Atheists and gays in this country are not organized enough and are not numerous enough to be a big threat to conservatives but they tend to ingore that fact.

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I did not bother to read all the christian bashing on this page as that would piss me off waaay too much.  Here is my view on gays and life.  The purpose of living things is to reproduce and spread their genetics.  Gays lack that ability.  By teaching kids not to be gay you help them to have a better chance at having kids.  Gays are the end of their family lines as they cannot have kids and spread their genetics.  For people like me who want their genetic line to continue we must ensure that kids do not turn gay.  Now I'm not saying Gays are evil, I know girls who are gay and they are some of the best people I know.  I am merely saying that genetically being gay is a dead end. 

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Let me ask you this.

 

Would you rather have a kid that was Gay, but because of your Homophobic teaching and trying to teach them against being gay, they never could atmit to you that they were? A kid that was frightened of you because he is Gay. So scared, in fact, that they kill themselves? (A very Common occurrance in homophobic, overly conservative families)

 

Or have an openly gay kid, who grows into adulthood, because even though you may disapprove, at least you were open to the idea that it is OK to be gay and that being so was not the end of the world?

In my opinion, I'd rather have a kid who didn't grow up confused and scared. I'd rather have a kid who trusts me, and who would tell me if something was bothering him.

But, thats just me, if you'd prefer to have your kid live in fear of you, that's your perogative..

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It's not homophobic as I do not fear gays.  They are people just like anyone else.  I just want my genetic line to continue.  If he is gay and offs himself like you say then I can't say what I'd think because I don't have any sort of emotional attachment to things that haven't even been born yet.  I'd prefer my kids to love me as a father and I am free to disaprove of their lifestyle choices.  I will however, work towards having a non-gay child so as to further my genetics.

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You can't teach kids not to be gay. If they are gay, they are gay.

Also: overpopulation. If there really were too few people, I might care about that argument. As it is, there are far too many.

(My personal opinion on that second, of course.)

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I live in the 1940s so I wasn't thinking of overpopulation.  Yes gays do help with overpopulation.  They are valuable for that and if the population continues to grow then yes we may need more gays.

 

As for whether or not you can teach a kid to not be gay I really don't know if it's possible.  I haven't read anything on the subject.

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I've heard theories that there are more gays being born because of overpopulation. I've heard them just in passing, though; haven't done any real research into it.

I can speak as a friend of several GBLT people and one myself: I don't care what "research" says, I have no choice in the matter. I've tried and nearly died because of the effort. This is a purely hypothetical question, though. I've read the exchange below and would like to know your thoughts, even though you've never been in this situation.

Since you've admitted here that you don't know if you can teach a kid to be gay or not, don't you think that if you were encountered with that situation, it might be good to do some research on it and form a solid opinion on it, either way, before you try to teach your kid not to be gay?

(Note: not a loaded question, genuinely curious)

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I dont like World Nut Daily, but I dont really have a problem with them writing a story about this, and advocating against it. Heck, they (WND and christian conservatives) can even boycott if they want - thats their right. Where I have a problem is when they try to use the government to force their beliefs on people. I dont see them advocating that here though, theyre not calling for censorship (although that is something that they often do). I do see this though as just adding to the hysteria about video games, and its this hysteria that can lead to censorship - so it deserves criticism for that.

Actual gay marriage is a separate issue. The best solution Ive heard is just to have the government call all unions (gay or straight) civil unions. Then leave marriage (the word) up to the churches/religion; they can chose to marry gay people or not, or straight people or not...

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That's actually what I want to happen. It annoys the hell out of me when someone says that marriage is a religious thing. It is not. My first marriage was done by a justice of the peace, and I paid the jurisdiction I was married in for it.

My second, more recent marriage, was done in my church. I didn't have to pay for anything, aside from an at-will donation, because my spouse and I are members of the church. However, I still had to pay the jurisdiction I was married in for the right to get married. That's a government issue. I had to get my marriage certificate from the jurisdiction I was married in. That's a government issue.

My proposal is to change the piece of paper you get from the government is to change it from "marriage" to "civil union" and be done with it, and let them continue to believe that "marriage" is a religious institution. If this is really about people not wanting "the name of their institution" sullied by "dirty gays" this should satisfy them.

Fact: in general, it doesn't.

 

On the topic of the actual game, I just lol'ed at the fact that merely acknowledging that there are some people who will not want to marry someone of the opposite sex is "pushing the homosexual agenda". If they object to homosexual marriage on the grounds that they're "not prepared to explain something as adult as that to a child," they shouldn't be learning about marriage yet at all. Why were you allowed to pick a girl to get married to? Because sometimes, people fall in love with others who are a girl like them, or a boy like them...

Why does the mere acknowledgement of homosexuality make for an "inappropriate" or "adult" topic, but heterosexual marriage isn't "adult"? I don't get it.

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I'm sick of these religious fanatics want the whole fucking country to bend over backwards and force their beliefs down everyone's throat. I have news there are about 1 trillion gods in human history when we die SOMEONE IS GONNA BE WRONG!!!!! IDK why each group is confident that it won't be them. Second I have no issues with these CHristians intolerant way of thinking. It disgusts me and as someone here said they are using religionas a crutch to justify and pass down their personal fears and hatred (For people who love God and Christ they have aloota hatred) HOWEVER they are entitled to that way of thinking just like I'm entitled to be against it. Its when these people piss in their pants and cry to the govt to force their values and preferences on everyone else those of faith and those not of faith; that's when I get pissed at these people. These people need to grow up: they have to adjust to the world and not expect the whole world to adjust for them. Whether you support it or not Homosexuality is out there it isn't gonna go away so either suck it up and enjoy your life or hide under your bed til the end off time.

 

 

 

 

For those who oppose video games for being "murder simulators"...When are you going to FINALLY oppose guns for being murder weapons?!?!

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I'm tired of being ranted at by religious fanatics and I'm tired of being incoherantly screamed at by people like you about my beliefs. If someone dares show backbone about their morality, and says they don't want to conduct gay marriages in the churches, mosques, or whatever organizations that they built, they get people like you beating down their door. If they do, they have picketers. It's a lose/lose situation for them.

Edit 2 : You very rarely see them get violent. You can find MANY examples though of a violent/offensive protest happening at a gay pride parade, and a non-violent/peaceful protest being arrested.

Westboro was picketing a parade, and across from them were a group with "God loves all" and "Christ saves" that sat down, held hands, and sang amazing grace. They were arrested, across from the "God hates fags" sign brandishers because they were disturbing the peace. Why wasn't this all over the national news? Because only the negative, nasty people are reported, and far be it for the group the media wants you to hate to have good people in it.

Edit : And last time I checked, the same right you exercised by your little rant right here is the same right they can exercise about that game. It's not crammed down anyone's throat-it's on their site and anyone that wants to read it can.

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We have no right to FORCE you to perform a Gay Ceremony inside your Church. If you feel that you must remain bigoted and ignorant, despite the fact that we all just want to live like Normal Human Beings, the more power to you. Feel free to remain a bigot, its not my problem. However, where you step over the line is when you try to get the government to legally prevent people in other churches from performing the ceremony and giving rights to people who you obviously must believe are below you. We have a reason to get violent and angry. People like you are trying to keep basic human rights from us, because you disagree with how we live? Do you really think we should be punished because we happen to be wired differently? I mean COME ON.. How much more backwards and ignorant can you get.

 

Bottom Line: Your religion is wrong, your way of thinking is wrong, and you are wrong. Start thinking for yourself, without worrying if the magic guy will kill you tomorrow because you had a naughty thought inside that tiny little head of yours. Maybe then you will understand that you are just taking your own predisposed bigotry and stupidity and covering it with the "Word of God"

Oh, By the way, you know the Bible was written by Humans, right? There is no divine inspiration. It wasn't delivered by God Himself. It is a human construction, just like all other religions. It exists as an attempt to explain the unexplainable. Much like when you ask a 5 year old why the wind blows. They don't know, so they make something fanciful up. You people are following without questioning something on the caliber of a school age child's imagination. Get over yourselves.

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While I disagree with Conservatice Christian's choice in the matter in relation to the article, there is a strange sense of said 'bigotry and arrogance', whenever I hear an Atheist's opinion on matters involving religion and god.

Granted, many do keep their opinions to a self-individualized perspective (of whom I have admiration and respect); Why is it other atheists' goal seemed to be steeped in hypocritism?

I mean sure..., there loud-mouthed Christians out there that are making a bad rep for their religion (same said for others), and also there is our violent history. But making out your statements in nothing but absolutes, (didn't your Enlish/Speech instructor taught you not to do that?) makes you sound like and amoral jackass with his head up his ass. (Not that you are, mind you...)

I learned Christianity as way adhere to certain moral codes (I give more than I receive), rather than abide by a strict set of rules applied by the Vatican of the course of several centuries.

You have right to what you want, and I respect that. Just don't turn yourself into a religious-discriminating jack-ass like Zerodash.... (I'M KIDDING, ZERO, JUST TAKE IT DOWN A NOTCH!!)

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Look, what I'm trying to say is look you have to look at your religion critically before you accept it as the outright truth. Reading some of those stories in the bible, (OMG, an athiest who has read the bible?!?) makes me go, "How the HELL do these people believe these things?"

If people would just THINK logically, I suspect that many of them would think the same thing. What makes Christianity any more correct than Islam, Bhuddism, or Native American Spiritualism? Nothing. Not a single thing makes Christianity the Right religion.

Religions were created to explain the unexplainable. Religions still exist for that reason. It is still mind blowing that people would defend thier religion, even when compared to the ancient roman and greek "Myths". How is it that we can confidently say that there is no Apollo, Jupiter, or Aphrodite, yet in the same breath, we can claim that God exists and that Jesus was divine? 

How, in the face of so many overwhelming similarities to so many of the conflicting religious systems, from Christianity to Zoroastrianism and everything in between, can people still go "What I believe is right, because thats what my parents taught me, and what their parents taught them before that!"

Why can't people just admit that we don't know exactly how everything started, and we don't know how it will end, and rather than spend our lives devoted to something that makes as much sense as the Greeks making some of the most important decisions of thier time based on the ramblings of a woman in an opiate induced trance?

That being said.. Humans are a facinatingly stupid creature. It's a wonder how we survived in a world filled with creatures that don't preoccupy themselves with the trivial questions of how and why we came to be, but instead focus on thier immediate needs and how to procure them.

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Here's my take on it, as a Christian (OMG a pro-GBLT person who is a Christian!):

I'd think about it logically... if my faith had anything to do with logic.

I claim Jesus as the Son of God and my Savior because that's what I believe. It's an intensely personal thing; you can't logic someone out of faith. It's inherintly illogical. Hell, I believe in transsubstantiation!

If you think you can talk logic with me about religion when I believe in something like that, I don't think I'm the only one who needs to be thinking critically here. ;)

You can indeed use logic within your faith, which is why I am 100% perfectly fine with the GBLT community. (Also: God hates nothing He has created, so on and so forth). I'll decline from going into why I am fine with them (and why I think that's completely in line with the Bible) because this isn't the place for a debate on the religion itself.

But seriously, dude; please, lay off the more traditional Christians who are posting here. We're not all duplicates of one another, and they are indeed entitled to their opinion on homosexuality, as wrong as we think they are.

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If you admit that your faith is illogical, why do you continue to believe in it?

In the real world, if someone went up to you and said, "Dude, I totally flapped my arms and flew today!" you would go, "No, you didn't.. That is impossible and defies all logic."

Yet, at the same time, someone could say "There is an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful entity that runs the world as he sees fit, and that we are all just pawns in his making. Oh, did I mention that his Son was born of a virgin a long, long time ago, and when he died, this entity brought him back to life! Also, he formed the entire Earth in 6 days AND he made women from a rib." and you would say "Yeah, I believe that too!"

How can one NOT respond the same way both statements? By any stretch of the imagination, the first is just as logical as the second.

Please, tell me how you can possibly disagree.

 

Also: Cut the I believe what I believe because that is what I believe crap. It is a cop out. You just don't want to admit to yourself that you have no reason to believe what you do. You just don't want to admit that there is a possibility that you have spent your life believing in something so rediculous that you should feel stupid for even entertaining the fact.

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 Well, the person flapping his arms has given us not reason that he is anything more than a simple normal human and thus is bound to all the same rules and restrictions that all other humans are bound to... God on the other hand is nigh all powerful being whose very existence could be far to complicated for human minds to comprehend, and is capable doing simple things like reshaping the universe

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But HOW do you even know he exists? Aside from the fact that that was what was taught to you when you were growing up? If you grew up, without mention of God in your life, you would respond the same to both people, the same way that I respond to anyone who tries to claim crazy shit like that exists.

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And how can you be so certain that he does exist? Who are you to say that every single one of the stories told through history about God did not actually happen?  Do you have an explanation for every mysterious events that may have occured? The only way you can claim God absolutely does not exist is when our science is capable to explaining every single thing in the universe and eliminate every possible mystery.... Explaining how God can exist could be like trying to explain Quantum Physics to a caveman... who are we to say that he can not possibly exists? whose to say that in a million years are science won't come up with an explanation for the unexplainable? Thousands of years ago if someone made a baseless claim that the world was round or the earth revolved around the sun, they might have been called crazy, that his claims made no sense and had no logic or reason to them; fast forward some more and we realize that though he had trouble explaining his claims he was actually right... This is why Science calls many of there facts "theories"; scientist are always prepared to find new rules and revelations that might change the known facts of the world and could even bring a whole new light on their theories... 

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You are right. You or I can't prove or disprove the existence of God. But excuse me for choosing the more believable route than immediately jumping to the Conclusion that some All powerful force is behind it. Honestly, thats taking the easy way out. It's easier than finding out for yourself. It's also easier than taking responsibility for yourself. I can assure you, I am not one to ignore facts. I am not one to deny just because I've denied all my life. If, sometime down the road, God is scientifically proven to exist, like you seem to think will eventually happen,  I won't hesitate to to admit my flaw and fall lock-step in behind the rest of you. However, all of the evidence, research, and general logic point the other way, so excuse my Narccissim, but I think I'll take my logical, deliberate, and well thought out approach over blind faith.

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Can you really be so quick to say that having Faith easier? i mean is it easier to believe in something that you can hold in your hands and see with your eyes, or believe in something that has no physical form what-so-ever...When a person is faced with suffering and pain, would you call it easy to maintain your faith in a higher power; in such times there are many who would say that no one is there... in a world where science is becoming more prevalent, and giving us answers to so many things, we are essentially living in a time when it might make more sense NOT to believe in some form of god... all in all, saying nothing is there when you have little reason to think something is there seems a lot easier than maintaining your faith... Can you say that they are ignoring facts, or are they accepting that those facts exist but have faith despite them... is it simple blind faith, or strength of will... some people do look very deeply into these things and still come out as believers

 

Grant it though you may have a point on personal responsibility... religion gives people a reason to be responcible for themselves. It's easier to stay personal responicble and accountable when you know you will be judged... Without relgion however, the only thing that encourages personal responcibility is the law and other people; and unlike the all seeing eyes of God, those factors you can get around... so it probably would take more strength to maintain personal responcibility when you think you can get away with your actions and avoid judgement... so there is that sense of avoiding temptation whnen you think you may be able to get away with it... though maybe not so much more, as the religous always could always drop their faith and believe they won't be judged; so you could say that for the religious there is still that sense of avoiding temptation which takes strength

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Dude, I'm on your side. I just disagree with you about religion. Why the sudden turn of attitude towards me?

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Sorry. But I get all fired up when defending points that I am passionate about. It was meant to be more of a question than an attack against you, personally, but as I wrote, I got angrier at all the crap these other jackasses are saying, and it kind of just spilled over.

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It happens. It's hard to "read" emotion when posting on teh interwebz.

However, I'm going to have to decline to defend my faith. This isn't the place for it and I'm sure no one here, let alone you, truly wants to hear an anonymous person's life story; and I don't think I want to divulge it on a public forum. As I said: intensely personal, and I meant it.

 

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I was actually responding to Val. Sorry about that, just hit the wrong reply link. My bad.

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Enough is freaking enough.

You're acting like a massive jackass and, personally, I think it's way past time one of the admins stepped in. You're a hatemonger yourself, you're just bigotted against religion, but that's ok I guess. Just stop and grow the frell up.

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I'll grow up and stop bashing christianity when I have no more reason to do so. Until they learn to mind thier own business, and realize that They are standing in the way of basic Human rights, they will be bashed on. If it offends, you, I'm sorry, but to god damn bad. I am sick of the crap that not only homosexuals are put through, but anyone who disagrees with the morals set forth by the Christian Doctorine. 

Like I've said before: You are more than welcome to practice your religion and your morals in YOUR family and YOUR life. The moment anyone try to tell ME how to live MY life, they have crossed the line, and that is exactly Christians have been doing for the past 2000 years. So, until that stops, you are just going to have to man up and deal with it.

 

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Not all Christians are standing in the way of human rights, many but not all so specify who you're talking about and cut down on the jackassery you're making us Athiests look bad by being a walking steriotype of the Arrogant Elitist Athiest and really we could do with a better public image.

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First of all, I don't think I've ever once claimed that ALL christians are bad. If I have, then I apologize for that.  Though I doubt it, because I speak in mostly generalities. I do this because of the fact that it's easier to type and read, rather than preface everything with the words "Some" or "Most", "X percent of" or even "All".

So what if I offend some Christians because they don't fit into the mold that I set forth? If they don't fit the mold, then I am not speaking about or directly attacking them. Besides, it would be stupid for anyone to believe that 100% of All Christians are Conservative Bigots. That would be like claiming all Asians are Smart or all Mexicans are Illegal. It is ignorant.

The only reason I don't explicitly explain that I KNOW not ALL of X is Y is because my posts are long enough as it is, and, to be completely honest, to point something like that out, rather focus than my more interesting and logical arguments is pathetic.

Oh, in addition, I will say this. Yes, I am arrogant. Everybody tells me this. However, I don't give a damn what people think about me, because more often than not, I am proven right again and again in arguments I have with others. (Not related to religion, I know you can't prove that crap.) I tend to let my track record speak for me. Because of This, I am a confident person. That is just who I am.

I am also elitist. I do believe that some people are better than others. This, to me, is proven through a persons actions and behavior. I am a better person than a criminal. I am a better person than a high school drop out. I believe that through hard work, perseverance, and applying your intellect and logic, everyone can better themselves. IN fact, this is why I fight for equal rights. I believe everyone should have an equal chance to raise themselves above the others. If you don't, however. If you drop out of school, waste your life, or otherwise cause your own problems, damn straight I think I am better than you, just like I think that people like Bill Gates and Martin Luther King Jr. are/were better people than you or I.

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I wish everyone would stop with the personal attacks. </hopeless peacemaker, lol>

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If we only focused on our immediate needs and how to procure them we never would have gotten anywhere as a species.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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I agree w/ your last statement, one could've said it was a "miracle", ha ha ha!

I never denounced any other religion, yet, you assume by our zealots, that we think ourselves as the superior, in the sense of ideology.

I never think of myself as better than others (quite frankly, the other way around), and I keep to my faith in the regard that it brings me closer to my family and others (In a sociological standpoint, it serves a purpose).

I have no idea whether or not our theories invloving creationism or evolution are true (frankly, I don't care.), and I am guy who already questioned his faith.

While I agree that certain extremist go too far with irrelevant issues (look at current article), you have such a pessimistic wordview on religion, it makes think whether or not YOU READ MY LAST POST!!!

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I did read your last post. You said your faith is yours, it's brought you closes to your family, blah, blah, blah..

The thing is I can be close to my family, be nice to others, enjoy my time on earth, and have a happy and fufilling life without the Crutch of Religion. In fact, Since I don't worry myself about how OTHER people are living thier lives, I would be willing to say that I live a happier life than most Christians.

Seeing as you completely avoided answering any questions as to why you people choose to believe one way or another between religions, aside from blind faith, and "thats just how I was raised" it makes me wonder whether or not YOU read my post..

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"You people" are all killers just waiting to go psycho and murder everyone around you. (sound familiar? Kinda like a certain Miami ex-lawyer?)

"You people" is almost always used by bigots to describe the people they hate. It's a copout to avoid even considering that you might be wrong and only goes to show you don't actually think about the issue yourself.

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Just wow.... that's well tastefully *cough* put.

Well, I just assumed those questions were rhetorical... since you already have such a aptly well-placed worldview.

I had never said you can't have religion and a good life...,

so I will say nicely done on your part.

It just doesn't take much common sense to know there little logic in blind faith, (I am rather stumped, as well) and already stated my reasons for believing in mine, so... what?

You assume, that by believing in any faith whatsoever, that we are weak? (Thus the whole crutch comment)

It's OK that you start to condecend on others to make yourself feel better. But what point do is it have if it does not gain you anything of social value? Obviously, at this point you don't care what I say either.

Not only are you falling off-topic from the post was about, but seems more of reason to troll around by having a raging fit on religion.

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Bottom line is if you spend your life trying to fight against things you think are wrong because your church says you are wrong, rather than thinking critically about your church and thier teachings, you are an Idiot. Seeing as most people in the world believe in thier religion because that was what was taught to them, it boggles my mind to figure out why, then, they are so convicted in thier behavior.

I believe, truthfully, and without a doubt in my mind, that religion is a crutch. It is a crutch to help people make sense of the world, without requiring them to truly think about it. The answers are there, no matter how stupid or nonsensical they really are, once thought and logic are applied. It also doesn't require them to reach the ultimate conclusion that once we are done here, there is nowhere else. Why else do you think that, in general, the poorer and less sucessful people are, the more religious they seem to become? It is because they don't want to admit that they failed in the one and only life they have. They want to believe that there is something else after death. They want to believe that they haven't wasted thier lives, beliving in God, just to be disappointed in the end.

One can only imagine the number of people who would just kill themselves on the spot, if it was ever proven that God doesn't exist. It is a shame, really, that it can't be done.

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Wow, that's... really, really cold of you.

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Gender roles and how they are applied and function are so antiquated and silly its not even funny.

And yes human relationships fall heavliy into that.

 


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Gender roles have changed and are changing, but across cultures differences can be observed in male and female psyches, and they all coincide. There are exceptions to every rule (ancient amazons for example), but they're just that-exceptions.


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And here I was wondering who actually listened to WND.

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Homosexuality has zero place in a game rated 9 and up. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_of_Life )

How's that for condensing three revisions of a large message?

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Meh marrgie is marrgie no matter whos getting married.



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Marriage between a male and female has a purpose outside of emotional fulfillment, and is generally beneficial to society by means of reproduction.


Gay marriage further breaks off from our already warped view of relationships. If you look in gay propoganda, you will find that most of it is about not being able to help who they fall in love with. This isn't as it relates to gender. This is the same stuff going around in straight relationships, and it's modern, and its emergence coincides with our increasing divorce rate.

I don't feel like getting into it further than that. I'll flat out say that homosexuality is not for kids, and the soap box I'll stand on is one from the furry fandom.

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Marriage between a male and female has a purpose outside of emotional fulfillment, and is generally beneficial to society by means of reproduction.

not in this day and age; people today are having sex before marriage, and the earth is overrun by humans as it is. We wouldn't have orphanages otherwise

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So, what, because You don't happen to fall in love with someone who happens to have the same sex as you, anyone who does is "Warped?" Dude, its a relationship between two humans, gay or straight. As such, they should be entitled to the same rights. If you are planning to go down the whole "Gay's are ruining the institution of marriage" route, then do me a favor and kindly Fuck Off.

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I concur you sir can go fuck off

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-Distances Self from GP- after Prop 8 and now this, If we attack them then were no better than they are

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