Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

March 18, 2009 -

Over at Dissident Voice, blogger Martha Rosenberg writes that the recent spate of mass shootings has hurt the pro-gun political agenda.

More on point for the GamePolitics audience, however is the cartoon at left, which Martha drew to accompany her post.


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Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

The problem is gun-control in school is backasswards. The people with guns in schools are the people who are going to shoot up everyone, and the people without are always the victoms. I think everyone especially in collage and even highschools should each classroom have at least 1 trustworthy student with a firearm. It would make classrooms actually much more safer, not more dangerous.

1 guy with gun vs 30 without= 30 people without die

1 guy with gun vs 5 with guns and 25 without = higher probability of less people dead

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

I agree. In one country, (Switzerland, I think) they actually have a law requiring everybody to have a gun with them at all times. And, wouldn't you know it, they have the lowest death-by-shooting rate in the world. Also the lowest crime rate, I think. Don't quote me on that, though.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Yup. Switzerland is one of the places that anti-gun groups will never ever mention. Every male there is a millitary conscript with full military training, and each household with a millitary conscript is equipped with a FULLY AUTOMATIC Sig 550 assualt rifle with free ammo to boot. And Switzerland has one of the lowest gun violance in the world, my suspect is because any attempt at shooting would basically be suicide, everyone around you has an equal ability to take you down as you have taking them down, so no one really tries anything.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

On the other hand, look at cities in the US like New York City, LA, and Chicago.  Huge crime rates, ridiculous gun laws. 

Nowhere have I ever seen a nation or city that became safer when they gave up their firearms. 

Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who did not. -Thomas Jefferson

 

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Australia.

One big massacre. One set of gun laws. None since.

Pretty much the only people dying to gun crime are criminals who put out hits on each other.

Of course, thanks to ass-backwards politicians most of the benefit has been lost due to police numbers dwindling and actual patrols becoming non-existant in favour of stupid solutions they can parade in front of the media, so the violent pricks still manage to be violent in other ways.

Just with less victims.

Hard to attack more than one person in a short space of time with a knife after all, since most knives they can get their hands on weren't designed with killing people in the most effective manner possible in mind.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

By the way, in the last two decades the Aussies have had several massacres since.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Port Arthur massacre occured in 1996. The gun restrictions came into effect shortly afterwards.

It's currently 2009 meaning thirteen years have passed... two decades? Umm...

Not to mention that the only large scale killings since that time have either been between criminal mobs or through the use of fire, it's hard to see where you're coming from.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

But deathrates-per attack generally go up because knives are more deadly than bullets. If I had the choice of being shot with a 9mm compared to being stabed with a 6 inch blade, i'll take the 9mm any day of the week. Knives rip flesh more effectively and have higher chances of severing artiries than the most common handgun caliber bullets. They also cause greater blood loss because of their size, and if it's stuck in your body, it can cause much greater infection than any bullet would.

Either way, their both bad, but if you want to reduce crime rates you do it the old fashion way,More police officers. These are just quick and lazy fixes that don't actually adress the problem, it's like putting duct-tape over a broken car.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Never knew that about Switzerland. The things you learn on GamePolitics.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Right.  Because a person with a knife is easy to spot.  

1 gun in columbine was legally owned, the rest were straw purchased.

As for V-tech, what they did was already illegal.  It still is. 

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

 A large knife like a kitchen knife or a hunting knife is probably about the same length or longer than some pistols, though the only pistols I have seen in real life are the ones carried by police officers around places like the Palace of Westminister in London which IIRC are small revolvers rather than semi auto.

Re: Cartoon Considers Games & Guns

Actually, Columbine's guns were not legally purchased.  They were illegally purchased from a third party. 

As for V-tech, those purchases would have been illegal had a judge and psychologist done their job.

 
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