German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

March 19, 2009 -

UPDATED

Some GamePolitics readers have alerted me that our original translation of the German shirt was flawed. It actually reads, I choose no game killers, indicating that gamers won't vote for German politicians who seek to ban violent video games.

That's an important distinction over our original translation.

Thanks to longtime GP reader David Ziegler and our own ace forum mod Hannah for the correction!

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The blurb beneath the shirt reads (as translated by Google):

With this shirt you can clear position against the one-sided condemnation of gamers as a potential running amok through the established parties.

Amoklauf (running amok) is used in German to describe school shootings.

In related news, a pair of German retailers have stopped selling 18-rated video games and movies. German website PC Games reports that Galeria Kaufhof will no longer carry titles such as Resident Evil 5, GTA IV, Killzone 2 and Far Cry 2. It has been reported that Kretschmer played Far Cry 2 on the eve of his murderous rampage.

GamePolitics regular Soldat Louis (who alerted us to these new developments) also reports that German retailer Saturn is dropping 18+ games as well.


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Dear GP,

   Red on Blue is very hard to read.

Thank you.

 

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Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

The mistake of translation was already said - let´s hope GP changes this quickly.
I would like to comment to the english-speaking krauts..ew...crowd:

This is like the bag of rice in china - no one should care.
The reason for my statement is: Kaufhof was NEVER - NEVER EVER a good place to look for or even buy games. Not only were the salestocks unbelievable small (8 games?) - they were also highly expensive (I´ve seen Diablo II for 70 €...in 2008).

No gamer should have bought games at Kaufhof at all..
 

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Kaufhof, for the uninitiated, is the German version of Walmart - or perhaps a better analogy would be Sears.  It's a department store that's in many German town centres (or at least it was 20+ years ago when I lived in Germany).  As for Saturn, I've never heard of them, but I haven't visited Germany for twenty years.

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Ever heard of MediaMarkt? Saturn is the same thing, both are owned by the same company even. It's a general electric/electronic store, that sells pretty much everything that runs off electric power except power tools.

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Walmart refused to sell GTA 3 when it came out. Then they noticed how popular it was and allowed to to be sold in its stores.

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 Will you all please stop it with the Nazi comments, or "Germany is screwed" and what have you? This is one single company refusing to buy adult rated games. Just one. This is not the end of the world, nor will this have any lasting effect on people buying adult games in Germany, or not. There are are other big stores, and Kaufhof/Saturn are both owned by the same company.

 

That aside, I really have to say I find the Nazi comments insulting! And the jew references, book burning and what not. If you'd make these kinds of comments in public, in Germany, some people will get pretty pissed. Most everyone takes pride in how much has changed, and how much has been learned from the tragedies of the past. No matter what happens with Video games, it won't have anything in common with what happend in the past. The politicians of Germany haven't even done anything so far; there have been no laws (re-)invented or changed about games, either. 

 

It's a bad thing trying to enforce too many regulations, but this is nowhere near the opression of the third reich!

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You forget, niether was the Third reich, at first. It started small. Radio, books, newpaper. Hitler didn't just rise to power over night. he was very clever in taking control of anything or anyone that would go against his ideals. All were pointing out is how similar modern german poltics seems to be getting. I already stated, that it was not happening as fast, or as severe as it had in the past, but it is happening, however slowly, however surely. Germany wants to take pride in there change you say, then they need to stop denying there past.

After all, how can you claim you changed when you wont even allow the image of the very thing you claim you've moved away from to be seen.

Thats not change, that denial.

Germany wants to be a free and democratic republic, but it's living in fear of it's own past rather then facing it. Now, it's starting to repeat it as a result. 

Thats all were saying. If you can't deal with that, perhaps, you need to rethink your argument.

Afterall, when a person can be jailed for even the slightly refrence to Nazi germany, i don't call that progress.

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

 Every country has their 'ghosts' to haunt them. Why it's forbidden in Germany to depict Nazi symbols is beyond me, however, before you point fingers at Germany as a whole, take a second look at what is really happening. 

 

Do I really have to repeat it? A single company decides to stop selling products of adult nature. There is no government involved. Or any law.

 

And even though I fully concur that everything started out slow and small, this current situation does not warrant comparision to the third reich in any way whatsoever. This is completely different.

 

Besides, from what things look like right now, it'll probably be difficult to purchase these games in many, many countries, in the future. In the US this basically amounts to shops refusing to sell AO products. Meaning, in the US, you have already arrived a long time ago at the point we're bemoaning in Germany right now, and we don't really have to since every other shop in Germany is still happily selling the AO rated movies and games.

 

Before you talk about denial in Germany again, please please come here and take a good look at society, the people, the mindset, the government and how it works. Maybe that'll convince you, because my words will fail to.

 

Oh, and not a single person has ever been jailed or even given the lazy eye for mentioning, discussing or teaching about the third reich, Nazis and what not. That's just plain nonsense.

 

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Not to disagree with you, as most of what your saying is well taken and to the point.

BTW, Our M rated games in america? About the same as any games you'd have at 18 plus over in germany. Though admittedly, games with sexual content are much more taboo here.

Im simply stating my observations of german poltiics for the last several years as relates to games.

Im not saying that all germans think this way or agree with it, just stating my views about the politics currently going on. Dont' take offense if i see certain parrells to past mistakes, I don't mean to offend you.

BTW, Far cry 2 is a M rated game over here. Is AO over in germany? Im not clear on a the rating system.

One more thing, as regards to people being jailed for Nazi refrences.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4339983.stm

A neo nazi rock bands lead singer was jailed  cause the court called there music hate speech, and continues to keep him in jail. WHile I dont' agree with the Whole Neo nazi thing, as I don't agree with the idealogy or it, or groups like the KKK,ACLU,Naacp (Who lost any respect I ever had for them over the duke lacross case) and so forth, Putting a man in jail cause you DOn't agree with the message of his music. If that was the way things were over here, I could name close to a dozen bands, a hundred rap artists, and more who would all be in jail for offending on group or another.

So dont tell me they dont' jail people, this is just on example I found, Im sure theres more cause i've seen the stories in the past.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16139/german-nazi-symbols-law-may-need-c...

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/12/german-politician-sues-unsues...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4179157.stm

Lets agree on this.

Many of germanys actions as of late in regard to video games are both alarmist, excessive, and disturbing. But if you need proof that germany is starting to slide back to it's old ways. well, I have one more story for you to think about.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2006/12/15/crytek-developer-offers-frighteni...

Now, tell me again, am i unjustified in my observation that germany may be making a mistake with there anti game rehtoric? Am I wrong to think they are simply turning old habits against a new medium, such as america has done in it's past with comics (Whertham) Music (Gore) Movies (Half the freaking country) and games (Thompson, Lee, Grossman, and more). America has the first amendment to protect its' right, even if thats a constat battle in and off itself.

Does germany have the same?

I don't belive so. Correct me if Im wrong, but all the evidance seems to indicate that im right.

 

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

 I'll explain the issue with how free speech is handled real quick. Another person has already responded so I'll explain the leftovers ;)

 

As he said, free speech does not cover "everything and anything". I'm not sure how far you can stretch the limits of free speech in the US. When you are making pro-Nazi speeches or displays of any kind in Germany, you break the law and you'll be questioned and/or arrested. If you wear a T-Shirt that says "Nazis are cool", you are in trouble. If you wear one that says "Nazis are the Scum of the Earth", you're fine. There have been discussions about T-Shirts depicting Nazi Symbolism - thrown into a garbage bin, whether that is okay to wear or not. It clearly shows the Symbolism, but then again, it's for the trash. 

From the outside this may look really stupid or naive, because this must look like the Symbolism gets all the blame. And not the people who were really responsible for what happened. There is a reason for this: the generations after the second world war became very, very sensitive to what could best be described as "other people showing no respect for what had happened in the second world war". If you laughed in class where everyone learned the details about the war, the Nazis, the killings, you were not taking this seriously enough. Those generations grew up, and there were Neo-Nazis who refused to see the plain and cruel truths of the past as something they should learn from, and there were all the other people who had, by then, developed a zero tolerance policy towards those who would dare mock and betray all the death of the past years. And they had tools like the law to help them in trying to keep Neo-Nazis away from any kind of power.

Personally, I cannot stress enough that I have yet to meet a single Neo-Nazi who is a smart person. Never have I seen so many dumb or illaterate people clustered together. From what I can see, they're basically trolls who picked up on something everybody hates, to feel sufficiently bad. That, and the fact that they feel hatred towards everyone who doesn't look like a German person. If you ask me, these people are just plain dumb. Some are trying again and again to go into politics, and they have gained a little power because in those campaigns, they learned to avoid the traps of the law that would normally prevent them from making political moves. Most everyone knows their true agendas, but free speech goes far enough so they can keep trying. Many people are afraid that some day they'll have amassed enough stupid people who'd vote for such a party to even be successful. Let's just hope this never happens.

Now, the people that got arrested over Nazi stuff are arrested because it was pro-Nazi. The laws clearly do not allow anyone to say something positive about the third reich. You could probably describe this best as a "Scar in the Book of Law" of Germany. As a reminder for the people to never forget this. Another safeguard so that something like this does not happen again, ever.

 

About Far Cry 2, yes, it's adult only over here. It has "Keine Jugendfreigabe", I own the game and finished it a few days ago. 

 

I am absolutely disgusted with what happened to CryTek, and I'm sure that if they stressed for this to be taken to the courtroom, they'd win. There clearly is a conflict going on between those generations who grew up with video games and those who see the devil in them. Like it happend, as you said, with so many other media before. 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Thanks for clearing up the details and clearing up the laws and such. I still hold that it's unwise and foolish for Germany to do what it does, but I can understand your concerns about my statements. I hope you understand I didn't mean any offense. I was just stating my observations, and i'm gratefull for help in getting the details about the law in germany.

As you said, this conflict keeps happening over and over. It saddens me to think that even after all this time, we, and by we I mean people, haven't learned.

Thanks for your reply, but im gonna call it a night. Take care.

 

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

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In Germany, and Europe in general, free speech principles just do not have the same reach as in the US - and even there, obscenity for example is not covered, which already landed a couple of pornographers in jail in recent months, and more are about to follow - e.g. see the Extreme Associates guilty plea.

It's not about old habits, it's about value culture, and again, free speech was never as big as it is in America (unfortunately). Nazi symbolism has been banned for a long time (probably since the BRD was founded after end of WWII). On the other hand, constitutionally speaking, "human dignity" is all the rage here. I'm trying to avoid being to political, but things like public sex offender registries would not even be a remote possibility in Germany.

Having said that, nothing has happend yet, except politicians talking, and I believe it is unlikely anything further will happen. Banning 18-rated games flat-out should be constitutionally tough even here. Retailers taking games off the shelf is their own free speech right, much like Microsoft, Sony refuse to license AO games.

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Cool thanks for clearing that up for me. Hopefully we can all at least agree that germany needs to chill out and not be so uptight about stuff. Then again, the USA needs to get the stick outta it's rear and stop freaking out about sexual content.

But thats just my opinon.

 

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game ...

Errr just a second.

Germany is screwed, led by nazis and so on because a company is doing things for the sake of doing things?
Maybe just to show the public "Look! We prevent school shootings!"?

Hans't Wal-Mart and other stores refusing to sell certain games for years? America is led by nazis then, right?

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

 Well the Nazi comparisons are a little harsh.

 After all its voluntary censorship on the part of the games retailers, Germany aren't banning games... at least not yet anyway. 

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

I've said it before, and it appears I'm right again. Does Germany not see that it's sliding down the same path it tries so hard to avoid. Banning and controlling media, limiting freedom. Doesn't that all seem kinda familiar?

Now, Im not gonna say it, but come on, you all know what I mean. I've said it before in the forums. Germany, for all it's effort to banish it's horrible past from it's memory, is sliding back down the same path all over again. Perhaps a great deal more slowly and with less public attention, but still. all the same.

I hope Crytek pulls out of germany and comes to america, or hey, i got a good idea, have them go to Austrailia and start a fight with that Dirt bag atkinson. Then again, germany has an 18 rating, which australia does not.

Serious though, all game developers who can should pack up and leave Germany. once they see all the money they lost, maybe then they'll pull there heads outta there asses.

 

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Russia too. Maybe the new Germany will invade the new Russia during the winter?

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It's disgusting how the retailers are going along with this, even though they don't have to. I mean, what the fuck? Do they have any balls whatsoever? And did it ever occur to any of the politicians that the game wasn't to blame? Of course not, because they weren't ever looking for a cause here. They were just waiting for an opportunity to blame the games. I know this because everything they said about Far Cry 2 is a lie. There is no Beretta 92 in the game (I've been looking for a mod that adds it for a while), and nobody wears black like they said. They just lied, and these German sheep believed them. Jesus fuck Germany, learn to stand up to your lying Nazi government.

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Industries have self-regulated for years to avoid regulation. Just look at America. Even though movies are considered protected speech (for the most part) they still have a ratings system that goes with it. It's the same with comics, and up until the mid seventies, there was the Comics Code Authority. Even now, Marvel has their own independent rating system.

The buisinesses in Germany that stoped carrying 18+ games might just be looking to perserve their current buisiness model without being saddled with additional laws and regulation.

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

and here's Godwin. Seriously just because that guy may have played Far Cry 2 on the eve of his shooting spree, doesn't mean Far Cry 2 caused the shooting spree.

Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

lol, I'm not the first to mention Nazis. And I don't really think it counts when you're talking about Germany.

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Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Yes...because no German person ever harmed another prior to the advent of video games.

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

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 Huh, I guess Galeria Kaufhof and Saturn don't like money. I can't imagine what kind of insane person at corporate made this decision. This is cutting off a huge revenue stream for these two companies. I sure as hell wouldn't want to stop selling 18 rated blockbuster games.

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Don't hate me for saying this, but it's coming in a big way. This type of banning will become more common especially in European countries. I'm not anti fps, in fact that is what I love. The reality is, games are becoming more realistic and more in depth than ever before. It's not like when I was growing up playing my Intellivision...

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Not sure if my country (Netherlands) ever tried something like that, but I never have seen indication they'll try. Even with kids getting arrested for threatening schools, no bad words about games. The gangsta-playah music videos on the other hand... We got teens that give blowjobs or have sex just for booze.

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Wow.  Sorry, Germany.  This is the kind of thing that has to be fought, this knee-jerk reaction to put the blame on something for causing society's ills.

 

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Ironically, Germany has the highest incidience of Neo-Nazis in the world...even though it's illegal. 

What worries me the most about things like this is that Europe is basically the future of the Western world- the Europe of today is the USA 10-20 years from now.  Canada is already well on it's way as well (though anti-games laws aren't as widespread). 

Given the increasingly game-unfriendly culture in the UK, it's only a matter of time before Germany's scapegoating infects them completely. 

Videogames will NEVER be safe from censorship- and the USA/Canada will be following suit soon.

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"Videogames will NEVER be safe from censorship- and the USA/Canada will be following suit soon."

I doubt it, the US has a little thing that we like to call the constitution, and besides, our citizens are not going to put up with that kinda crap.

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The United States still has the Patriot Act, and illegal searches by police happen all the time.  Also, videogames are the favorite scapegoat of right-wing zealots (Christian agenda), left-wing socialists (Nanny State agenda), and the mainstream media (Mass Effect, Virginia Tech, Columbine, etc).  It's going to happen here. 

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The Patriot Act?!  That has to do with terrorism, not video games, and alll those examples you mentioned fail cause people replied to them, as for your view of Christianity, you must be thinking about the Jack Thompson version of Christianity.

Sorry, but while that **** may fly for Germany, it won't fly here in the US.

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The Patriot Act is hardly a product of the "Land of the Free" and proves that laws granting the government authority to delve further into our everyday lives.  Censoring media isn't too far removed.

Also, Jack Thompson's brand of Christianity is quite common in America.  Somebody out there has to be watching The 700 Club all these years...

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Still, the Patroit Act has nothing to do with video games, and it never will, so no, again, whats happening in Germany will not happen here.

And yes, but you also see where Jack's version of Chrisitanity got him, disbarred, yeah, like I said, that **** may fly in Germany, but its not going to fly here.

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They could always make a new law like the Patriot Act. The US goverment has been bloating for forever now and it isn't showing much evidence that it'll be stopping anytime soon. A law like that very well could happen, as long as someone with an agenda and power gets into a position to do so. =(

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But then again, that little thing called the constitution will only stop them.  Take Columbine and Virigina Tech as an example, if games weren't banned after those two incidents, I doubt they will be anytime in the future, no matter how much people like Thompson and such want them to be.

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God damn it, stop linking those of us who are real socialists with the capitalists.

Democrats, are capitalists. Republicans, are capitalists. Shit.

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Meh.  That's Europe's problem.

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Except for the point where politicians all over the world tend to point fingers at other countries, saying "They do it too!"

And why Germany is our problem is beyond me, they stopped being our problem 64 years ago.

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Anti-games folk in the USA like to point to the anti-games laws and sentiment in Europe & Austrailia as examples of how to properly rape free speech.  Games will not be protected speech in the USA (or Canada) for much longer- when a major player in the West like Germany does this, and the UK is getting more game unfriendly all the time, people with agendas pay attention.

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Of course you could also point out why Germany is doing this.  Sorry, but I don't see the US ever pulling this kinda crap that Germany is, and if they did, oh lord would whoever pulled the stunt would regret it as they'd get voted out of office so fast.

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Hmm, with regard to the dropping of 18 games and movies everywhere, and the continued lies and scaremongering by the german government...

 

Does this remind anyone of that vague thing in history where  a certain group gathered all the books, threw them into a pile and burned them?

Trying to opress freedom of speech didnt turn out too well last time. Strange how the lessons of history are so quickly forgotten.

Kind of a two fingers up to all the brave people who gave their lives to ensure that this wouldnt happen.

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That just serious bullshit right there. Lets ban R-rated Movies while we are at it. Hell lets ban books, tvs, and all that stuff.

*needs to go vent*

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You have translated the T-shirt wrong. It says "I don't vote for Game Killers", not "Killer Games". It refers to how some politicians call violent games "Killergames" (Killerspiele). People who wear this T-Shirt want to express that they won't vote for such politicians and call them "Game Killers" (Spielekiller) because they want to ban violent games. And yes, that T-shirt was introduced some time last year, perhaps even in 2007. I'm not really sure, but it's definitely not new and not related to the recent school shooting. I myself don't really approve of violent games either, but I do agree that banning them is wrong. And I think the game rating is strict enough in Germany. There should rather be more efforts in making sure people comply to the age ratings and don't let younger ones play them.

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Yup.  Finally someone gets it right!  This tee shirt is SUPPORTING games and gaming, not attacking those things.

Ich wahle keine spielekiller translates as "I choose (vote for) no gameskillers".

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Yay germany!!! Now just put games in piles an burn them. Also send everyone who ever had one into re-education camps to teach them to not be killers... Germany has a few camps which are no longer in use so it could always re-open those... Then Germany can get back to its glory days and invade Poland because of all the game smuggling coming from Poland...

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You know, if one was so inclined, a sinple road trip can acquire all these banned games.  If Germany doesn't want to sell them, fine.  But it's like Fireworks bans in Illinois.  It's a short trip out of state to circumvent any banning laws.

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Re: German Anti-game Backlash Spawns T-shirt, Stops Game Sales

Hello Germans! You wish to buy GTA, yes? Far Cry 2, yes? Come in, come in! We have all these games for you to buy that your country doesn't want you to have! But don't ask for guns. Even your fake guns are illegal here because they look too real!

Would be a nice boost for our economy.

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Looks like Germany is still led by nazis.

I wonder what kind of plans Fuhrer Merkel has for the future?

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It was on that day that German authorities began collective Video Games; Forcibly removing console after console from their family and loved one. The Video Games were held, in isolation, awaiting their ultimate demise.

It was known as 'The Holograph'

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Though not as bad from a moral standpoint because it's just video games, there are certain parralels between this and them rounding up Jews.  Besides, who's to say they won't arrest people who have play violent video games as potentially dangerous individuals?

 

And before anyone says it, any internet forum that features a topic about Germany censoring stuff is automatically Godwin'd.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

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Yeah, as much as I wanted to scream "Godwin's Law," there actually IS historical evidence in this case...

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Should 'Hatred' have been removed from Steam Greenlight?:

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MaskedPixelanteSounds like BN was going after an unrelated mod, and took out DSFix in the process. Probably once a counterclaim goes out, this'll all be sorted out.12/22/2014 - 7:04pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144440299&postcount=1 wtf is namco thinking.......12/22/2014 - 6:17pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/12/22/read-the-fine-print-ubisoft-free-game-offer-waives-lawsuits/12/22/2014 - 6:00pm
Papa MidnightI kind of liked the movement to have Terry Crews play him instead, but this will do.12/22/2014 - 3:40pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://marvel.com/news/tv/23866/mike_colter_to_star_as_luke_cage_in_marvels_aka_jessica_jones#ixzz3MeuUl63P Mike Colter is Luke Cage.12/22/2014 - 3:23pm
IanCBecause that isn't Max Payne 3. It might have the name, but it isn't an entry in the series.12/22/2014 - 12:48pm
IanCOh theres a Max Payne 3? A proper one, or are we referring to that abomination that Rockstar crapped out a few years ago12/22/2014 - 12:48pm
IanCUpgraded PS3 hard drive to 500gb. Restored 53GB back up. Done the maths, have somehow used up 106GB already?12/22/2014 - 12:44pm
Papa Midnighthttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/12/drm-glitch-leaves-new-max-payne-3-buyers-temporarily-in-the-lurch/12/22/2014 - 11:55am
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/12/22/j-stars-victory-vs-ps3-ps4-vita-international-plus-version/ J-Stars is coming to North America.12/22/2014 - 9:36am
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-virtual-reality-headset-will-compete-with-oculus-rift-2014-12 can a xbo even handle doing vr?12/21/2014 - 10:48pm
PHX Corp@Adam802 We'll break out the popcorn in June12/19/2014 - 9:23pm
ZippyDSMleeMaskedPixelante: I'm itching to start it too but I will wait till the patch goes live. >>12/19/2014 - 7:52pm
Adam802Leland Yee and Jackson get trial date: http://sfbay.ca/2014/12/18/leland-yee-keith-jackson-get-trial-date/12/19/2014 - 5:24pm
MaskedPixelanteNevermind. Turns out when they said "the patch is now live", they meant "it's still in beta".12/19/2014 - 5:07pm
MaskedPixelanteSo I bought Dark Souls PC, and it's forcing me to log into GFWL. Did I miss something?12/19/2014 - 5:00pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/republicans-may-have-plan-to-save-internet-providers-from-utility-rules/ this is intreasting. congress may put net nutrality in to law to avoid title 2 classification12/19/2014 - 2:45pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.polygon.com/2014/12/19/7421953/bullshit-cards-against-humanity-donated-250k-sunlight-foundation I have to admit I like the choice o organization. congrats to CAH.12/19/2014 - 1:51pm
E. Zachary KnightIf you are downloading a copy in order to bypass the DRM, then you are legally in the wrong. Ethically, if you bought the game, it doesn't matter where you download it in the future.12/19/2014 - 12:06pm
InfophileEZK: Certainly better that way, though not foolproof. Makes me think though: does it count as piracy if you download a game you already paid for, just not from the place you paid for it at? Ethically, I'd say no, but legally, probably yes.12/19/2014 - 11:20am
 

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