16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of NYC Newsman

A 16-year old New York youth has confessed to the stabbing murder of a veteran New York City radio newscaster, according to a report in the New York Daily News.

The suspect is an avid video gamer who lists Rockstar’s controversial Grand Theft Auto IV as his favorite title.

The NYPD has charged John Katehis (left) with repeatedly stabbing George Weber, 47, last Friday. The pair met after Weber posted a Craigslist ad offering to pay for violent sex. Katehis was to earn $60 for the sleazy encounter at which alcohol and cocaine were reportedly used. Weber, apparently as part of his sado-masochistic fantasy, supplied the knife with which Katehis eventually killed him.

That’s not to say that Katehis was a stranger to edged weapons. The New York Daily News, which refers to Katehis as "emotionally disturbed," displays a picture of the teen posing with his exotic knife and sword collection.

Gawker has posted Katehis’s MySpace profile, in which says the suspect wrotes:

I enjoy long conversations, drinking, bike riding, hanging out, roof hopping, hanging off trains, any type of Parkour exercise. Extreme violence (chaos, anarchy, etc.) Video Games, Violent Movies and listening to my ipod…

 

I like to do crazy and wild things. I am like an adrenaline junkie. I’m a big risk taker and like to live life on the edge…

The MySpace profile references an account on ibeatyou.com. At that site, Katehis lists Grand Theft Auto IV as the "Hottest PS3 or Xbox 360 Game You’ve Ever Played" and includes a picture of himself holding a copy of the PlayStation 3 version. Katehis holds up Far Cry 2 in a separate photo.

Additional coverage: Gawker

GP: There are just so many dysfunctional pieces to this story, but video games will certainly be blamed in some quarters.

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    Ryno says:

    Oh, I completely agree. I’m just pointing out how someone so messed up doesn’t need much to push them over the edge. It can come from anywhere and with this kid, something would have done it eventually. I don’t think it was the games – notice I said can be, not are – but there were a whole lot of things that led to this event. None of them were good.

    Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if a whole lot of things swam though his imagination as he stabbed the guy, games he played, songs he heard, movies he saw, books he read, imagining strangling that annoying guy in his class. He probably recalled them all fondly while doing it, or afterward.

    Like I said before, exposure to anything violent, or that could be construed as violent, was probably a BAD thing for him.

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    nekusagi says:

    Outwardly there’s really nothing too strange about collecting swords and knives. They’re viewed as just another collectible by some people, like figurines or books.

    Hell, if I had the money, I’d collect them. Some of them are damn cool.

    But I do agree that if your kid has that many issues you probably shouldn’t buy him long pointy things.

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    Father Time says:

    "See that’s the problem, CAN be blamed. They haven’t been blamed yet. Why is GamePolitics so intent on rallying up the masses so early, before anyone puts any blame?"

    I think we mostly get ourselves riled up, I don’t think the media would even bother with the video game and element and if they did I think it would be a combination S&M and video game blamefest (I personally don’t think either are responsible) along the lines of ‘the man wanted him to do violent things to him and this kid being a violent game player …’

    But there were some crimes that I thought would never get the seal of video game blame by anyone but the looney and those ended up being blamed on games.

    An incident involving a cab driver being stabbed to death comes to mind. Even Atkinson brought it up. 

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    chadachada321 says:

    Might wanna learn the definition of paedophilia…The kid is clearly post-pubescent, and to put a straight line on the age 18 is illogical at best at determininng if someone is a paedo or not. He killed an S&M lover that happened to be old. The kid was fully grown as far as this is concerned, and I see no evidence that the victim was a paedo or even had a sexual preference for under-18s. A preference for younger guys could simply be a sign of ephebophilia, which is mid-to-late adolescents, and that is quite normal in adults anyways. Ever heard of jailbait? Well, I think that when I’m 40, I’ll still find 16-24 year olds extremely attractive, and this victim was just "lucky" enough to find someone around the age that he wanted.

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    chadachada321 says:

    I look at sick shit on the internet, lol. My parents know that, as a teenage boy, I’m going to look at porn once in awhile, so they don’t really care (or want to know) what I look at late at night. For all they know, I could be looking at weird S&M stuff, and I could go onto Craigslist and put myself out there. I could easily drive to some random person’s house without my parents knowing. It’s not a lack of supervision, it’s a sense of not being able to monitor me every second of every day, and trusting that I won’t put myself in situations that common sense says I shouldn’t.

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    chadachada321 says:

    My friend has a few swords, and his dad has several of his own hanging in the living room/computer room. I have one of my own (though not on display anymore) and plan on paying a set soon to put up on display. My dad knows that I like swords and knows that I’m not going to take them outside of the house, so he doesn’t mind me having them and doesn’t mind buying them for me either.

    But, everyone has their own opinions on culture and child-raising, so to each his/her own.

    I didn’t look at the article, so I’m not sure how many swords this kid had, but I’ll say that my friend has 6 of his own and his dad has 4 or 5 on display plus several in his attic. And none of them are killers.

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    PushDustIn says:


    See that’s the problem, CAN be blamed. They haven’t been blamed yet. Why is GamePolitics so intent on rallying up the masses so early, before anyone puts any blame? For all we know, this whole ordeal can go by without anyone putting a single blame on a video games. I really think people are going to blame the cocaine, the fact that the radio caster was looking for violent sex, and maybe for the unsteady mental condition that the killer has.

    I think, the reasons that violent video games are blamed are because [the masses, newscasters, politicians] cannot 100% blame it on [the killer’s] mental condition. Here, I think we see no question (Honestly, I see no question with the German school shooting, but other people don’t). If there some debate about the violent video game, it’ll come and go VERY quickly.

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    NovaBlack says:

    because let’s face it: giving as disturbed an individual as this any access to violent media isn’t much different than giving a flamethrower to a pyromaniac.

    apart from there is a causal link between the flamethrower and soebody being killed by it (the fire burnse them to death).

    There is no causal link between the video game and their death. (i.e. its not like the video game case was used as a physical weapon).

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    Ryno says:

    This is one situation that I actually believe games can be blamed, because let’s face it: giving as disturbed an individual as this any access to violent media isn’t much different than giving a flamethrower to a pyromaniac.

    Honestly, your average Shakespeare play or opera could have given this kid ideas about new exciting ways to rack up a kill count. Frankly he shouldn’t have had access to anything with violence in it. But mostly it’s the parents’ fault for not being involved, apparently at all, with their child’s life.

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    PushDustIn says:


    I think the link to video games is too weak to say that the media is going to blame violent video games. I think you guys are too eager to pick up your pitch forks and start the hate. The article here (on GamePolitics.com) makes a stronger connection to violent video games than the NY Daily News/Gawker ones.

    I guess that’s the problem with having a blog dedicated to video game news; your bond to get some biased reporting.

    Here’s the only mention of video games in the article that GamePolitics points out:

    On his site, Katehis called himself "Extremist, an Anarchist, a Sadomasochist" and said he enjoys "long conversations, drinking, bike riding, hanging out."

    The teen also listed more reckless hobbies like "roof hopping, hanging off trains" and violent video games.

    "I am a very easy person to talk to," he wrote. "I like to do crazy and wild things … I’m always looking for a big thrill.

    [/end quote]

    The article really portrays this kid as emotionally/ mentally disturbed, even describing him as such in the photo caption.

    I’m actually going to applaud this article for being one of the non-biased articles [in terms of connecting the crime to violent video games] I’ve seen.

    To repeat myself: the article has no claims to GTA IV or Far Cry 2. GamePolitics is making this connection themselves.

    Now here’s the counter argument…because I’m sure someone is going to say it.

    Why even mention violent video games?

    Sure they list violent video games as a ‘reckless hobby’ but they aren’t blaming it for the crime. I really think the writer included that to show that this kid was always looking for a thrill (See the quote) and that he wasn’t satisfied with a ‘monotonous’ life.

    Convince me otherwise, GP.

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  11. 0
    Father Time says:

    This is by far the oddest criminal case that GTA might be dragged into as being an ‘influence’.

    S&M, cocaine, booze, minors, knife.

    If that kid plays enough GTA he should know that the baseball bat is a more effective weapon.

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    MasterAssassin says:

    @ Chaplain

    Take away the video games and the kid probably still would have done what he did, take away the disturbed mental state, cocaine, alcohol, fetish, easy access to weapons, and negligent parents, or even just one or two of the above and this would not have happened. I have to say I’m relieved that this kid killed a pedophile instead of some innocent bystander with his state of mind or worse became the next school shooter. Given this kid’s state of mind, it’s a miracle that this situation isn’t more tragic. Of course I’m also sure the media will fail to mention that the so called victim was a pedophile.

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    Wolvenmoon says:

    And family guy isn’t marketed to 14 year olds.

     

    Of course it is. It works the same way as the tobacco agencies or any other company. These corporations, ALL OF THEM, are heartless machines bent on making money.

    Does that mean it’s wrong to enjoy their product? No. Should we kid ourselves about their agenda-to move more product? No, it does not. Their concern for ratings is just to get more sales, and we should recognize this and act accordingly.

    His parents are likely permissive cokeheads..

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    Wolvenmoon says:

    Before blaming the video games, we must ask ourselves where this kid learned these things. As I haven’t played any of rockstar’s games-I find that degree and type of violence excessive and silly-I can’t say for certain it didn’t come from them.

    Why was this kid not monitored by his parents? It takes more than a year to get to the kind of place where he could think this was alright. It takes more than a year to gather up the neccasary stupidity to go into an old man’s house when the man promises cocaine and abusive sex.

    This points to a larger problem in society, a number of them actually.

    1.Why did this child have no supervision?

    2.Why didn’t the schools, who had him for presumably 40 hours a week, intervene?

    3.What in the world made it okay in his head for him to go to a 47 year old man’s house as a prostitute?

     

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    Chaplain99 says:

    Uh…uh…

    -starts fidgeting-

    See, that’s the thing…video games most likely DID have something to do with it, albeit a very small part of it.  Same as with the coke, the alcohol, the fetish, the disturbed mental condition, the negligent parents, and the metal music.  It’s like a recipe for a time bomb, only this one goes off inside the head of a teen instead of on the battlefield or wherehaveyou.

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    MasterAssassin says:

    Oh wow, there is so much wrong with this story I don’t even know where to begin but I’ll try. First off a little message to Jack and anyone else who agrees with him(you too Sage). First off you are a sick disgusting person if you try to use this story to push your agenda. Video games had nothing to do with this whatsoever. This kid was unstable, disturbed, and was a substance abuser. If you think video games had more to do with it then that, then piss off and go jump in the lake because your a disgrace to humanity. If the mainstream media picks up on this and tries to point the finger at video games, I’m very well considering starting a letter writing campaign to major news outlets asking them to stop this. This was a mentally unstable and disturbed person who was abusing drugs and alcohol and had easy access to weapons. First off where were the parents? If he was diagnosed as mentally unstable, why did they allow him to keep all those weapons? Also why didn’t they try to get him help? And why did they continue to let him to drink and use cocaine? You can easily tell if someone is high on coke. If anything this is a case of a mentally disturbed person who had negligent parents who failed to get him help and oh yeah had a drug problem too. I can’t even see how you can bring video games into this at all.

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    nightwng2000 says:

    That’s not a surprise since he places a kid playing a violent video game as being worse than that same kid having been verbally, mentally, physically, and nearly sexually abused.  See the Cody Posey case in all its disgusting totality.  And that’s just one of many, obscene, perverse, dishonorable, unethical, immoral, corrupt things the Traitor John Bruce is guilty of.  And that’s why people look down on those who hold such an individual in high regard, in part or whole.

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    Bennett Beeny says:

    Firstly, GTA IV is not marketed towards 16 year-olds.  The game is an adult title, and in my view, if a kid has issues with violence, feeding him violent media cannot help.  The parents ought to be a bit more responsible.

    Not that violent media is to blame.  I think violent media is completely harmless unless a person already has issues with violence.  I’m just saying that if there’s a propensity towards violence, feeding it violent imagery is not exactly smart.

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    Chaplain99 says:

    Lol.  Because the kid kong-vaulted over the fence, pk’d toward the guy on all fours, wall-ran over the guy, and stabbed him from behind.

    …yeah, I parkour.  What of it?  ^^

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    Chaplain99 says:

    I’m confused as to what causation and correlation has to do with a kid killing an adult in what appears to be cold blood.  And don’t say it was the video games, for the love of GOD.

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    Chaplain99 says:

    In a way, I think he has.  By making a point of GTA IV being a favorite game of his, he’s thrown the media a line into his personal life.  He’s basically saying "Hey, I’ve washed my hands of this.  GTA IV and the coke, man…those made me do it."

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  22. 0
    shady8x says:

    Well rockstar is clearly to blame for this… we should ban all games immediatly just because of this case that clearly shows that any minute now, millions of these little children that play these games will start murdering people left and right unless we take away their murder simulators… yep any minute now… or now… or now… well I am sure it will happens some time I mean it has to right?

     

    /sarcasm

  23. 0
    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    As much as I wish that would work, I know it won’t. We’ve done that… IDK how many times, without success. If we happen to succeed, I hope he doesn’t get banned, as his antics amuse me to the point of laughter.

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    Firebird says:

    You’re assuming that’s going to stop JT and other asshats from blaming it either way?

    It’s just really a hope of a clear disclosure that he’s a crazy bloodthirsty bastard first, instead of a violent video game junkie in the media.

    At least in that manner, any other announcements (outside the net) would be disproven on the spot.

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    Kincyr says:

    well, Jack has always been defending the sexually-immoral. First, it was the street-whores, now it’s the S&M sickos.

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    Shoehorn Oplenty says:

    Given that you say you have contact with him, why don’t you let him know how you believe that this murder is in no way connected with GTA? Or is it ok in your opinion for him to misrepresent (ie. flat out lie) to a politician to further his agenda?

  27. 0
    PHX Corp says:

    From the looks of it they’re ignoring the videogame issue(it only got a small mention)

    Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

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    gamadaya says:

    He shouldn’t have to twist any facts in this case. He might, but there’s no need to. All he has to do this time is confuse cause and effect.

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  29. 0
    PHX Corp says:

    1)the article dosen’t know

    2) the kid claimed it himself

    Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

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    Erik says:

    "He’s already twisting the facts to support his twisted agenda"

    Fixed that for you.  Jack’s most common, and also most laughable, weapon in his aresenal is pointing out correlation without backing it up.  He says "X" person played "Y" game.  But just stating that he has a "Y" game doesn’t prove that it made "X" person kill.  It is really as relevant as pointing out that nearly all murderers wear shoes.

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    Dragoon1376 says:

    After reading the articles linked to, I’m left with two questions:

    1) Where the hell are his parents/family? The obscene number of katanas and knives he has makes me wonder if he bought/stole them on his own or if his parents purchased them for him.

    2) Who diagnosed him as emotional unstable?  Was it a psychologist or was it just the reporter making their own judgment? 

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  32. 0
    Zerodash says:

    Is Jack even remotely aware of this kid’s obvious mental illness?  How can anyone pretend that a single videogame MAGICALLY turned a NORMAL person into a killer?

  33. 0
    PHX Corp says:

    The kid in the picture is way too insane, i think for the wild stuff just have him put away for good(this article angers me far worse than JT spouting his BS)

    Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

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    gamadaya says:

    Fuck. Well, the shit is about to hit the fan. We’ve got GTA IV, the media’s favorite whipping boy, and Far Cry 2, Germany’s most hated game. This couldn’t get any worse unless the kid had litterally said "the videogames made me do it".

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    Dragoon1376 says:

    Ugh, but a thinking person can’t look at the grocery list of interests on the part of Katehis (everything from violent movies, video games, metal (I’m assuming from his Lamb of God shirt and the other pic of him throwin up the horns) to his partaking of reckless behaviors and exhibiting a willingness to lie and emotional instability) to the way he came in contact with Weber and the activities undertaken during the meeting (drugs and alcohol) without a huge WTF.  It was a perfect storm of conditions that led to a very brutal killing of a person. 

    Even after reading a couple of these stories, I feel like there’s a huge gap of information currently missing. 

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  36. 0
    gamepolitics says:

    he has already forwarded it to the Guv of Utah by way of nagging him to sign the video game bill… The first, but surely not the last time he will cite the case.


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    chadachada321 says:

    Both parties were looking for fucked up sex stuff…16 is basically 18, and the kid was fucked in the head anyways. I think dennis went a little overboard in his post, personally, and I think this is just a case of two messed up people (the kid being wayyy more messed up) doing something messed up and that sadly ended in the death of someone. It sucks, yeah, but there’s not much to do about it except live and learn and try and raise your kids away from stuff like this.

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    Vash-HT says:

    He didn’t really bash BDSM, seriously are you really into it or something because he was jsut mad that a kid wwas dragged into that scene. And you can’t really argue with his point that the situation had a lot of potential fo rthings to go wrong. I mean come on, violent sex with a minor+hard drugs and you’re trying to argue he’s a hypocrite because he defends video games which consists of sitting your ass in front of a TV. As much as I don’t give a shit if people do BDSM it’s kinda dumb to say that hooking up with a stranger for some violent sex and then giving him some cocaine booze and a knife isn’t a dangerous situation.

  39. 0
    chadachada321 says:

    Now now, just because Sage has said that in the past, in this particular instance I think he’s right. The kid seems bi or at least bi-curious to me, and f-d in the head

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    nightwng2000 says:

    Not everyone.  A 20 year old looking for someone in the range of 18-25 would be reasonable.  A 30 year old looking for a 21-30 would be reasonable.  Maybe even an 18 or 19 year old.

    But we’re talking someone who was well over 40 picking out an 18 year old.

    Let’s face it, if a 40 year old starting making advances at the Olsen Twins, especially when they had only turned 18, people would be screaming that the 40 year old was trying to rob the cradle because the 40 year old was looking for partners who appeared very young.

    In conjunction with Craigslist, it makes it all the more suspicious.  Craigslist has earned it reputation.

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    Adrian Lopez says:

    "We can’t read their minds, but really, ya gotta believe, especially attached to Craigslist, he believed that he was going to end up with a someone who was younger than 18, no matter what he was told."

    By your logic, everybody who posts to the adults section on Craigslist is looking to have sex with minors. After all, you don’t know what the ad said and you offer no support for the claim that he thought he’d "end up with someone who was younger than 18" other than the fact thathe posted to Craigslist.

  42. 0
    nightwng2000 says:

    If this were just any adult sex site, I’d be more agreeable.  But Craigslist has earned its reputation.  The age difference is telltale.  Very few these days don’t know about kids faking being adults.  It’s too easy to argue "Hey, they told me they were 18!"  We can’t read their minds, but really, ya gotta believe, especially attached to Craigslist, he believed that he was going to end up with a someone who was younger than 18, no matter what he was told.

    At the very least, he may have been having the "school girl" fantasy where what he was getting was an 18 year old that he hoped LOOKED younger, even just a little.

    Again, we can’t read their minds, but also again, Craigslist.

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    Dragoon1376 says:

    Exactly.  Unless the ad is reproduced verbatim for us then we can’t really assume that he was specifically looking for a minor.  Granted, this is a hell of a way for your family to learn about whatever secrets you would have preferred to have gone to the grave with you.

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  44. 0
    Sage says:

    We don’t know if he was intentionally seeking out a minor. All it says is that he had an ad on Craigslist for violent sex. The kid could have told him he was 18, as he said he was 18 on other sites.

  45. 0
    Vash-HT says:

    Huh, my friends all hated 4 cause they said RS took out stuff that was in the 3rd series of games, but I guess some people see less as more or more as less or something.

  46. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    It’s disturbing to see this boy, who is still wearing braces in the GTA IV pic, lured by the sleazeball victim into a freaky scene that had so much potential to go horribly wrong.”

    just playing devils advocate here…

    but didnt the kid seek out the advert, accept it voluntarily, and know fully at least what type (perhaps not extent) of situation he was getting into? Just think it takes two to tango. I mean fair enough perhaps you can argue a kid doesnt have as much common sense as an adult, but i mean looking at the facts, it doesnt seem like the kid was misled in any way or forced to do anything..

    As for the freaky scene.. i guess thats just personal opinion, so i cant really argue that. (personally not my cup of tea either) but what right do i have to judge somebody else’s habits/’norms’. I mean in this case yeah stuff whent horribly wrong.. BUT have to remember that in general, if two people get up to stuff like this behind closed doors, and when it doesnt harm anyone, what right does anybody have to criticise that?

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    Neeneko says:

    You know, for someone who speaks so passionately about not slandering games, picking apart every small choice of wording to show bias…. you sure are quick to throw all sorts of ‘end of society’ type wording at things like BDSM.

    Yes, this has all the markings of a bad encounter, no question there and any kinkster will tell you that.  But you sound way to much like those people who hype up games by calling them murder simulators whenever you encounter sexual topics outside simple gay rights.

    The hypocrisy is starting to wear kinda thin.

  48. 0
    Dragoon1376 says:

    Dennis,

    They’ve been covering this murder more than normal out here in Denver since Weber worked as a radio host at one of the stations back in the 90s.  I heard a blurb on the radio this morning that hinted at a conflicting report as to the age of Katehis.  While initial reports are saying he’s 16, a couple are contradicting those and claiming he’s 17.  While this is probably a minor detail, have you heard anything along those lines?

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    Sage says:

    I’m betting Katehis is bisexual. I don’t think a 100% straight person would put themselves into that kinda situation for a measly $60. Especially if he had a girlfriend. Plus if it was a Craigslist ad, Katehis would have wanted to volunteer for this "adventure".

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    gamepolitics says:

    As a parent of teens, this story angers me so much…

    It’s disturbing to see this boy, who is still wearing braces in the GTA IV pic, lured by the sleazeball victim into a freaky scene that had so much potential to go horribly wrong.

    It’s impossible to justify what Katehis did. But take 16-year old kid with issues, drop him into a bizarre sex deal with a middle-aged man. Katehis is reported to have a girlfriend, so I’m guessing he’s straight and doing this for the money. That right there has to be pulling his emotions in all different directions. Next, give him booze and coke and then hand him a knife… It’s a recipe for disaster.


  51. 0
    NovaBlack says:

    pff dont be an idiot.

    Obviously GTA trained him how to use the knife.

    he clearly wouldnt have known what to do with it had it not been for GTA IV.  😉

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    Wormdundee says:

     Agree with you Dennis 100%, this story is so fucked up and yet it will be turned back to video games.

    He likes extreme violence, responded to an ad for ‘violent sex’, consumed alcohol and cocaine, and then killed the guy with a knife he did not bring. Obviously he didn’t go into this with the intent to kill Weber or he would have brought something from his own extensive collection.

    The combination of all this, plus ‘risk taker’ and living life on the edge, he definitely does sound disturbed in some way.

    It would be interesting to know how he played GTAIV. As in, did he go through the story and not do much random killing (as I did), or did he not even bother with the story and just spend his time running people over etc. with the story as a kind of side thing.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    Magus? This is Darkman. Code Blank. Repeat, Code Blank. Begin Operation Spiky Destroyer immediately. Repeat, begin Operation Spiky Destroyer immediately.

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    Monte says:

    Man just let it go,

    "Sage" is such a common term that you could probably find a nickname like it on just about any large forum or community (just checked two of the ones i go to, found a "sage" and several variations). I mean if we were talking about something like "SageoftehHaxxors", "Sage2715", "SageofLOLcats", or anything more specific you would have a point, but really, it’s just to damn simple that it’s just a coincidence in this case.

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    metroidprimegmr says:

    That’s only /b/ and the NSFW boards (and sometimes /v/); the rest of 4chan is actually quite good, albeit intensely sardonic. And no, I’m not being sarcastic, nor am I trolling.

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    Shadow D. Darkman says:

    You dumbass, now Anon will swarm this place. We just might have to summon Lavos just to keep them at bay. Someone patch me through to Magus!

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    PHX Corp says:

    4chan is an area where scum and villany come together like bread and butter(woops should’ve kept my mouth shut)

    Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

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    hellfire7885 says:

    If you don’t know what 4chan is, trust me, you don’t want to know.

    Besides, you seem far too articulate to be from there.

    And I do applaud your willingness to listen.


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    Nocturne says:

    No, but it can be classed as an illegal assault if it "results in marks or injuries which are more than transient and trifling."

    There have been court cases relating to consensual S&M that has left serious marks but they usually end with the Judge deciding it’s their own business.

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    Vake Xeacons says:

    Thing is, this is nothing new, Sage. This is pretty much how it goes with every "gamer shooting" story. The mainstream ignores all other factors and focuses on the controversy that brings in ratings and sell papers. The more psychotic the killer is, the more they blame the game.

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    nightwng2000 says:

    The one MAJOR thing that is going to bother me, if you’ve done any long reading of my posts, is that the media may very well downplay the radio show host’s own activities in favor of the youth’s violent acts and interests.

    While the youth is responsible for the murder, and has some of his own mental problems, the radio show host obviously had problems if he’s seeking out minors to have sexual relations with of ANY kind, violent or otherwise.

    The fact that there will be folks who will make this kid’s interest in violent video games seem worse than the fact that, technically, consentual or otherwise, he would be labeled as the victim of sexual molestation by the radio show host.

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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    Sage says:

    Even I’m with you guys on this one. Looks like the media is trying too hard in this case to point to video games. With so many other things involved they sure did add in alot more info about his gaming compared to anything else.

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    Vake Xeacons says:

    Problem is RS hasn’t taken GTA must farther than where it "began" at GTA3. They kinda added to it, but still each mission is basically "drive and/or shoot." Not much to do otherwise except cruise around and listen to the radio. If you ask me (I know you haven’t but oh well), they topped out at San Andreas.

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    NovaBlack says:

    agreed..

    tbh i found the story utterly boring compared to GTa’s more ‘fun, less serious’ iterations.

    I think my main problem was that the story kept on justifying Nikos actions by making him say ‘Ah well, i need the money’. Apart from the fact that my character Niko had hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Hell in the story, after the taxi office gets hit him n roman say ‘Dammit we have no money and nowhere to live’ in the cutscene. I was like… uhh.. i have over 100,000 dollars and nothing to spend it on.. what are you talking about.

    I dunno.. i just feel that the story and gameplay should compliment one another. All the story did was remind me that my actions in the game had no effect, breaking my immersion, and reminding me that i couldnt relate to Nikos story since it was forced upon me.

    Same with the date. The one girl that you can date that actually plays a large part in the story, your MEANT to have an emotional attachement to when ‘stuff’ happens to her (trying not to drop spoilers). However i didnt optionally date her ONCE. i HATED her. yet for some reason the story version of niko loved her. UGH. shoehorning story in the way of gameplay doesnt work.

    Plus later on the story just got.. meh.. boring. Only gta i havent completed.

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    insanejedi says:

    I woulden’t say GTA 4 is the greatest game ever, but it’s certainly up there. Then agian i’m a pertentious prick that looks at the "artsy" side of video games.

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    JC says:

    Ugh… hating hearing things like this. Since UK banned S&M, I wonder if some politician in NYC will try the same as well in NY; and a story like this will want them to jump to such a bandwagon, along with games as well… <_>

    So yes, there are many things wrong with this scenario, but everyone will point at games and violence depicting media as the cause.

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    Vake Xeacons says:

    THE IPOD! That’s what made him do it! If he hadn’t listened to his iPod, he would have been the picture of pacifism!

    Drinking, cocaine, mental issues. Is anyone going to care? No. It was all GTA’s fault, as usual. 

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    NovaBlack says:

    ”Extreme violence (chaos, anarchy, etc.) Video Games, Violent Movies and listening to my ipod… ”

     

    whaddya know a violent person likes violent video games.

    Shock horror.

    Why do critics try and turn it the other way around (a player of violent games becomes violent).

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    insanejedi says:

    The only remotely S&M moment of GTA 4 is the intro and you take no part of it at all. The intro is just this fat guy (Niko calls him dave) being beaten by this domimatrix girl with a flail. Thats it. You don’t partake in it, you don’t do anything, you just (as Niko) knock on his door telling him to get out.

    But…

    Booze+Coke+Sharp Objects+Emotional Disturbed kid+S&M=Bad things going to go wrong

    And I highly doubt in the matter that you +GTA 4 would have done anything to it.

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    sheppy says:

    Newsreporter killed while soliciting violent drug filled sex from a minor….

    This craigslist is a level on animal crossing, right?

    Wall of Text Simulation- Insert coin to continue.

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    fozzy360 says:

    Yes, they both enjoyed violent sex, Katehis was a violent and disturbed person who enjoyed violence in general, and alcohol and cocaine were reportedly used, but it doesn’t matter!

    It was GTA IV that made him do it.

     

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