16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of NYC Newsman

March 25, 2009 -

A 16-year old New York youth has confessed to the stabbing murder of a veteran New York City radio newscaster, according to a report in the New York Daily News.

The suspect is an avid video gamer who lists Rockstar's controversial Grand Theft Auto IV as his favorite title.

The NYPD has charged John Katehis (left) with repeatedly stabbing George Weber, 47, last Friday. The pair met after Weber posted a Craigslist ad offering to pay for violent sex. Katehis was to earn $60 for the sleazy encounter at which alcohol and cocaine were reportedly used. Weber, apparently as part of his sado-masochistic fantasy, supplied the knife with which Katehis eventually killed him.

That's not to say that Katehis was a stranger to edged weapons. The New York Daily News, which refers to Katehis as "emotionally disturbed," displays a picture of the teen posing with his exotic knife and sword collection.

Gawker has posted Katehis's MySpace profile, in which says the suspect wrotes:

I enjoy long conversations, drinking, bike riding, hanging out, roof hopping, hanging off trains, any type of Parkour exercise. Extreme violence (chaos, anarchy, etc.) Video Games, Violent Movies and listening to my ipod...

 

I like to do crazy and wild things. I am like an adrenaline junkie. I'm a big risk taker and like to live life on the edge...

The MySpace profile references an account on ibeatyou.com. At that site, Katehis lists Grand Theft Auto IV as the "Hottest PS3 or Xbox 360 Game You've Ever Played" and includes a picture of himself holding a copy of the PlayStation 3 version. Katehis holds up Far Cry 2 in a separate photo.

Additional coverage: Gawker

GP: There are just so many dysfunctional pieces to this story, but video games will certainly be blamed in some quarters.


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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

he has already forwarded it to the Guv of Utah by way of nagging him to sign the video game bill... The first, but surely not the last time he will cite the case.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

This is gonna be one of his favorites. Devin Moore case and others are just too old right now.

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

well, Jack has always been defending the sexually-immoral. First, it was the street-whores, now it's the S&M sickos.

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Is Jack even remotely aware of this kid's obvious mental illness?  How can anyone pretend that a single videogame MAGICALLY turned a NORMAL person into a killer?

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Ugh, but a thinking person can't look at the grocery list of interests on the part of Katehis (everything from violent movies, video games, metal (I'm assuming from his Lamb of God shirt and the other pic of him throwin up the horns) to his partaking of reckless behaviors and exhibiting a willingness to lie and emotional instability) to the way he came in contact with Weber and the activities undertaken during the meeting (drugs and alcohol) without a huge WTF.  It was a perfect storm of conditions that led to a very brutal killing of a person. 

Even after reading a couple of these stories, I feel like there's a huge gap of information currently missing. 

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of

The only remotely S&M moment of GTA 4 is the intro and you take no part of it at all. The intro is just this fat guy (Niko calls him dave) being beaten by this domimatrix girl with a flail. Thats it. You don't partake in it, you don't do anything, you just (as Niko) knock on his door telling him to get out.

But...

Booze+Coke+Sharp Objects+Emotional Disturbed kid+S&M=Bad things going to go wrong

And I highly doubt in the matter that you +GTA 4 would have done anything to it.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

As a parent of teens, this story angers me so much...

It's disturbing to see this boy, who is still wearing braces in the GTA IV pic, lured by the sleazeball victim into a freaky scene that had so much potential to go horribly wrong.

It's impossible to justify what Katehis did. But take 16-year old kid with issues, drop him into a bizarre sex deal with a middle-aged man. Katehis is reported to have a girlfriend, so I'm guessing he's straight and doing this for the money. That right there has to be pulling his emotions in all different directions. Next, give him booze and coke and then hand him a knife... It's a recipe for disaster.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

''It's disturbing to see this boy, who is still wearing braces in the GTA IV pic, lured by the sleazeball victim into a freaky scene that had so much potential to go horribly wrong.''

just playing devils advocate here...

but didnt the kid seek out the advert, accept it voluntarily, and know fully at least what type (perhaps not extent) of situation he was getting into? Just think it takes two to tango. I mean fair enough perhaps you can argue a kid doesnt have as much common sense as an adult, but i mean looking at the facts, it doesnt seem like the kid was misled in any way or forced to do anything..

As for the freaky scene.. i guess thats just personal opinion, so i cant really argue that. (personally not my cup of tea either) but what right do i have to judge somebody else's habits/'norms'. I mean in this case yeah stuff whent horribly wrong.. BUT have to remember that in general, if two people get up to stuff like this behind closed doors, and when it doesnt harm anyone, what right does anybody have to criticise that?

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

You know, for someone who speaks so passionately about not slandering games, picking apart every small choice of wording to show bias.... you sure are quick to throw all sorts of 'end of society' type wording at things like BDSM.

Yes, this has all the markings of a bad encounter, no question there and any kinkster will tell you that.  But you sound way to much like those people who hype up games by calling them murder simulators whenever you encounter sexual topics outside simple gay rights.

The hypocrisy is starting to wear kinda thin.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

He didn't really bash BDSM, seriously are you really into it or something because he was jsut mad that a kid wwas dragged into that scene. And you can't really argue with his point that the situation had a lot of potential fo rthings to go wrong. I mean come on, violent sex with a minor+hard drugs and you're trying to argue he's a hypocrite because he defends video games which consists of sitting your ass in front of a TV. As much as I don't give a shit if people do BDSM it's kinda dumb to say that hooking up with a stranger for some violent sex and then giving him some cocaine booze and a knife isn't a dangerous situation.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Both parties were looking for fucked up sex stuff...16 is basically 18, and the kid was fucked in the head anyways. I think dennis went a little overboard in his post, personally, and I think this is just a case of two messed up people (the kid being wayyy more messed up) doing something messed up and that sadly ended in the death of someone. It sucks, yeah, but there's not much to do about it except live and learn and try and raise your kids away from stuff like this.

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Dennis,

They've been covering this murder more than normal out here in Denver since Weber worked as a radio host at one of the stations back in the 90s.  I heard a blurb on the radio this morning that hinted at a conflicting report as to the age of Katehis.  While initial reports are saying he's 16, a couple are contradicting those and claiming he's 17.  While this is probably a minor detail, have you heard anything along those lines?

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

One source listed him as 18, but mentioned that he self-identified as 18 on  Xtube(?) which is an adult site. So I'm guessing you have to say you're 18 there.

The Xtube bit is mentioned here:    

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=88835

 

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

I'm betting Katehis is bisexual. I don't think a 100% straight person would put themselves into that kinda situation for a measly $60. Especially if he had a girlfriend. Plus if it was a Craigslist ad, Katehis would have wanted to volunteer for this "adventure".

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

I bet he probably became bisexual because he "caught" some gayness by seeing homosexuality in the media, right Sage?  

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Now now, just because Sage has said that in the past, in this particular instance I think he's right. The kid seems bi or at least bi-curious to me, and f-d in the head

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Unless, you know, killing and robbing him WAS the goal.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

If that was the goal, he fucked up.  No robbery took place last I heard.

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of

Even I'm with you guys on this one. Looks like the media is trying too hard in this case to point to video games. With so many other things involved they sure did add in alot more info about his gaming compared to anything else.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Thing is, this is nothing new, Sage. This is pretty much how it goes with every "gamer shooting" story. The mainstream ignores all other factors and focuses on the controversy that brings in ratings and sell papers. The more psychotic the killer is, the more they blame the game.


Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Wow.

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Haven't you already been outed as a 4Chan troll?

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Man just let it go,

"Sage" is such a common term that you could probably find a nickname like it on just about any large forum or community (just checked two of the ones i go to, found a "sage" and several variations). I mean if we were talking about something like "SageoftehHaxxors", "Sage2715", "SageofLOLcats", or anything more specific you would have a point, but really, it's just to damn simple that it's just a coincidence in this case.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Sage and Onion?

mmmmmm herbs!

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

I don't even know what 4Chan is. Sage is a nickname I had in high school.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

If you don't know what 4chan is, trust me, you don't want to know.

Besides, you seem far too articulate to be from there.

And I do applaud your willingness to listen.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

4chan is an area where scum and villany come together like bread and butter(woops should've kept my mouth shut)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

That's only /b/ and the NSFW boards (and sometimes /v/); the rest of 4chan is actually quite good, albeit intensely sardonic. And no, I'm not being sarcastic, nor am I trolling.

_____________________________________

Jack Thompson: future Good Burger employee of the month

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

You dumbass, now Anon will swarm this place. We just might have to summon Lavos just to keep them at bay. Someone patch me through to Magus!

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

-grabs Splazer-

HOLD THE LINE!  D:<

"HEY! LISTEN!"

"HEY! LISTEN!"

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Magus? This is Darkman. Code Blank. Repeat, Code Blank. Begin Operation Spiky Destroyer immediately. Repeat, begin Operation Spiky Destroyer immediately.

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of

The one MAJOR thing that is going to bother me, if you've done any long reading of my posts, is that the media may very well downplay the radio show host's own activities in favor of the youth's violent acts and interests.

While the youth is responsible for the murder, and has some of his own mental problems, the radio show host obviously had problems if he's seeking out minors to have sexual relations with of ANY kind, violent or otherwise.

The fact that there will be folks who will make this kid's interest in violent video games seem worse than the fact that, technically, consentual or otherwise, he would be labeled as the victim of sexual molestation by the radio show host.

Nightwng2000

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of

We don't know if he was intentionally seeking out a minor. All it says is that he had an ad on Craigslist for violent sex. The kid could have told him he was 18, as he said he was 18 on other sites.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

If this were just any adult sex site, I'd be more agreeable.  But Craigslist has earned its reputation.  The age difference is telltale.  Very few these days don't know about kids faking being adults.  It's too easy to argue "Hey, they told me they were 18!"  We can't read their minds, but really, ya gotta believe, especially attached to Craigslist, he believed that he was going to end up with a someone who was younger than 18, no matter what he was told.

At the very least, he may have been having the "school girl" fantasy where what he was getting was an 18 year old that he hoped LOOKED younger, even just a little.

Again, we can't read their minds, but also again, Craigslist.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

"We can't read their minds, but really, ya gotta believe, especially attached to Craigslist, he believed that he was going to end up with a someone who was younger than 18, no matter what he was told."

By your logic, everybody who posts to the adults section on Craigslist is looking to have sex with minors. After all, you don't know what the ad said and you offer no support for the claim that he thought he'd "end up with someone who was younger than 18" other than the fact thathe posted to Craigslist.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Not everyone.  A 20 year old looking for someone in the range of 18-25 would be reasonable.  A 30 year old looking for a 21-30 would be reasonable.  Maybe even an 18 or 19 year old.

But we're talking someone who was well over 40 picking out an 18 year old.

Let's face it, if a 40 year old starting making advances at the Olsen Twins, especially when they had only turned 18, people would be screaming that the 40 year old was trying to rob the cradle because the 40 year old was looking for partners who appeared very young.

In conjunction with Craigslist, it makes it all the more suspicious.  Craigslist has earned it reputation.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Maybe because young girls are attractive..?

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Exactly.  Unless the ad is reproduced verbatim for us then we can't really assume that he was specifically looking for a minor.  Granted, this is a hell of a way for your family to learn about whatever secrets you would have preferred to have gone to the grave with you.

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

 Agree with you Dennis 100%, this story is so fucked up and yet it will be turned back to video games.

He likes extreme violence, responded to an ad for 'violent sex', consumed alcohol and cocaine, and then killed the guy with a knife he did not bring. Obviously he didn't go into this with the intent to kill Weber or he would have brought something from his own extensive collection.

The combination of all this, plus 'risk taker' and living life on the edge, he definitely does sound disturbed in some way.

It would be interesting to know how he played GTAIV. As in, did he go through the story and not do much random killing (as I did), or did he not even bother with the story and just spend his time running people over etc. with the story as a kind of side thing.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

pff dont be an idiot.

Obviously GTA trained him how to use the knife.

he clearly wouldnt have known what to do with it had it not been for GTA IV.  ;)

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Ugh... hating hearing things like this. Since UK banned S&M, I wonder if some politician in NYC will try the same as well in NY; and a story like this will want them to jump to such a bandwagon, along with games as well... <_>

So yes, there are many things wrong with this scenario, but everyone will point at games and violence depicting media as the cause.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Wait.  S&M sex is banned in the UK?

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

No, but it can be classed as an illegal assault if it "results in marks or injuries which are more than transient and trifling."

There have been court cases relating to consensual S&M that has left serious marks but they usually end with the Judge deciding it's their own business.

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Apparently nobody told Boy George that.

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

First Manhunt, then Sam & Max?! But Season 1 only got a T-rating.

Oh wait...you mean THAT S&M...

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

You crack me up, little buddy.

__________________________

Jack Thompson: future Good Burger employee of the month

Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder of

Newsreporter killed while soliciting violent drug filled sex from a minor....

This craigslist is a level on animal crossing, right?

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

More ammunition for videogame haters and massacre chassers. Anyways, is a very strange note, involving some radio broadcaster.

Any person who claims that GTA is "greatest game ever" is not a real gamer. Is a damn n00b.

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Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Problem is RS hasn't taken GTA must farther than where it "began" at GTA3. They kinda added to it, but still each mission is basically "drive and/or shoot." Not much to do otherwise except cruise around and listen to the radio. If you ask me (I know you haven't but oh well), they topped out at San Andreas.


Re: 16-Year Old GTA IV Gamer Charged with Grisly S&M Murder ...

Huh, my friends all hated 4 cause they said RS took out stuff that was in the 3rd series of games, but I guess some people see less as more or more as less or something.

 
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