A Colorado police officer has suggested that a troubled 22-year old man who went on a random shooting spree last October may have been influenced by violent video games.
The Denver Post reports that the police investigator made the comment in regard to Stefan Martin-Urban (left), who killed two people and wounded two others before turning his gun on himself:
When Stefan Martin-Urban... pulled a pistol from behind his back and methodically shot strangers, his behavior was eerily similar to characters in the video games he played obsessively.
Those games, authorities said Friday... are the closest police and FBI investigators can come to an explanation for Martin-Urban's actions that killed two and injured two.
"It could be that he was simply acting out a part in a video game. Maybe he had interjected himself into a game in his mind," Grand Junction police Sgt. Tony Clayton said.
Like the thugs in "Grand Theft Auto" and warlocks in "World of Warcraft," Martin-Urban showed no emotion...
Sgt. Clayton's remarks notwithstanding, there are indications that the killer was, like so many other random shooters, a mentally disturbed person who gained access to a gun. From the story:
He had no criminal record and had not exhibited any psychotic behavior. But unbeknown to anyone who might have been alarmed, Martin-Urban had purchased a 9mm semiautomatic Ruger...
The only other clue that something wasn't right was his computer log: He spent an inordinate amount of time playing games where the object is to kill and steal.
He played the games as many as 12 hours a day during the last few months of his life. He holed up in a hotel room in Europe during a family vacation last summer and played the games while his mother and sister went sightseeing.
"In the last year, he had no friends. No boyfriend. No girlfriend. No pets. He was consumed with the video games. He spent an enormous amount of time playing them," Clayton said...
Martin-Urban lived mostly in isolation... after enrolling in a state college... He stopped going to classes within two weeks.
His father had committed suicide in Alaska four days before the previous Christmas...
He had a profile on YouTube where he wrote that he lived in a world "that some people choose to call 'reality.' " His favorite videos included a prophecy that a 2,000- mile-long spaceship containing cosmic beings was going to appear in the Earth's atmosphere three days after the shooting.
In regard to the YouTube video, a local TV station speculated that Martin-Urban may have been part of a cult which predicted that the world would end within days of his rampage.
The Denver Post report also notes that Martin-Urban was a Grand Theft Auto player and even theorizes a link between his GTA play and the fact that most of his victims were getting into a BMW at the time of the shooting:
One of the fanciful cars in the game — the silver Blista — has taillights that resemble a BMW's.
The Rocky Mountain News reported last October that Martin-Urban's aunt worried that he may have been suicidal.
GP: Martin-Urban's self-imposed isolation, his retreat into obsessive gaming, his dropping out of school, the trauma of his father's suicide, and his apparent fascination with the bizarre cult video would seem to be red flags that Martin-Urban was a deeply troubled young man.




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Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
Prohibition actually caused more problems then it solved, which is why it was ended, but i see where you're coming from.
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He was a deeply troubled person... but he played video games so that's the ONLY reason he did this.
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I'm going to Lowe's today and buy a sledgehammer, a pair of plumber's slacks and a red cap. When you see a news article about people in a mall having their heads smashed in, you know it's Mario's fault.
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See me, because I'll be throwing barrels of oil at unsuspecting bystanders at a contruction site.
I'll be the guy in a gorilla suit...
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I'll be rolling a giant ball around in hopes of picking people up and making new worlds.
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And I'll be the blue hedgehog stealing rings from jewelry stores.
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And I'll be the guy dressed in yellow, listening to techno, and trying to eat everything in my path.
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Them warlocks is trouble, the way they realistically cast magic and all that, teaching our children to summon demons like that.
Seriously though, it's a shame, and serious investigation should be put in to what caused him to become like that. It's more likely the obessive playing was caused by the yet unknown factors of his isolation, rather than isolation caused by the games.
Also make note that at the time of this occurence, no legislation in the world could have restricted his access to M rated games.
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Anyone notice that it seems well over 90% of these incidents happen in the U.S.? Granted we had the incident in Germany weeks ago and not to say thatit doesn't happen anywhere else but if we take a look at the stats of countries where these incidents happens its obviously a U.S. problem. And the difference between the U.S. and these other places is that in the U.S. its ridiculously easy to acquire firearms.
For those who oppose and view video games as murder simulators...When are you going to FINALLY oppose and view firearms as murder weapons?!?!
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Actually, the U.S. has one of the better gun control systems implemented. Way to go Germany, by the way, always interesting to see an irresponsible parent leave an 'assault rifle' out where their kid can get it. Way to enforce your laws and then call for censorship.
How are our laws better? Because we still have enough recourse that our government is afraid to censor us.
Every time we have a shooting and we try to blame guns, videogames, music, whatever, we do nothing to help the situation. We just go through the same self-satisfied 'we've solved it!' stage, and completely ignore the most important factor; the people around the murderer. The people responsible for the murderer (in a legal sense). The murderer themselves.
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Way to go Germany, by the way, always interesting to see an irresponsible parent leave an 'assault rifle' out where their kid can get it.
What? What 'assault rifle' are you talking about?
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The last school shooting, the one that occurred in Germany, early reports said that an assault rifle was used.
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Thats how human societies tend to work, blame anything but the person/people responsible for the tragedy, ban everything then revolt because you live in a restrictive fascist state.
Humanity...when will you learn....
Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.
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I don't know about other countries, but in the Netherlands, gun access is pretty restricted, so the most you'll get is a family drama where the husband brought his gun club gun home. We have knifings instead.
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His fingers pulled the trigger! Blane fingers for the crime!
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As sage said, 'even one death caused by something is too much and it should be banned'
I think the only way to protect people is to impose mandatory removal of all fingers at birth. Hell, arms and legs too.
I mean its the only rational logical solution to the problem.
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The "similar car" link is just stupid. You'd never suggest that someone who died from eating a poison mushroom did so because it looked like the ones in Mario Bros. At least the cop sounds like someone who's still grasping for answers in the wake of a tragedy; the idiots at the newspaper should know better.
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Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
Especially since the Blista in GTA is based on the Honda CRX, not a BMW..
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And isn't specifically silver either.
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And considering how many cars there are in the game, there's a good chance there actually IS a BMW in the game... so no need to try and make a loose connection to another type of car
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I always thought the Sentinel looked rather BMW-ish myself.
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Wow, can someone take the thumb from these people asses?
They seem to have a lot bullshit to them...
While I apoligize for my overzealous critisism, I amazed that people cannot deduce than the kid is an outcast, and much more in how they are quick to place the blame, when they themselves do not know much to begin with.
...and with that goes the short summary of the next 50 or so comments.
Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
I nearly posted first on this article, twice. But I figured, "Why bother?" What more can we say that hasn't already been said? There's nothing true in this article, we've seen it all before, and none of these idiots are going to believe any different.
This is why so many anti-gamers go unchallenged. I'm tired. Battle fatigue. They Just. Keep. Coming.
Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
Besides anything we say here is only preaching to the choir anyway, as you said it'd just go unheard anywhere else. :(
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Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
...and the occasional asshole everyone disagrees with every now and again...
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Re: Video Games Get the Blame in Colorado Shooting Spree
This Is wierd, I'll just distance myself from this site(and pretend it's a political site and not a site that can drive you nuts)
When you point out about Games and politics, I'm fine with it. but when you put on the fact that the killer was a troubled man (who was intrested in New Age BS) that would be a problem
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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Wait now. So you are getting miffed because Dennis pointed out the obvioius fact that this individual was mentally disturbed?
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Nope Just wiereded out by the New Age BS the shooter was on
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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Riiiight. And because the kid was into crystals and meditation and other such stuff that is enough to drive you away from this site?
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the part where it's GP:, and describes the man as troubled, I believe that's the opinon he has, it's not intruding on his reporting, so what does it matter?
We're allowed to comment on everything, he's just able to put his statement where everybody will see it.
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I think because of this, after today, I'm just going to take A long Break from this site
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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Again?
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Ok ok, i admit it, i do not keep my promises about taking a break
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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I am quite interested to know exactly what about the article you find troubling. I couldn't really understand why you had an issue from your other posts, just that you had a problem. Can you explain it so even I can understand?
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Because GP is like a Ritalin prescription...
*Seeing if got the analogy right*
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Please explain, i'm still a little confused on what the issue is.
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The fact that the article wierds me out espically the final paragraph Dennis Mccauly Quoted
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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So because of a quote from another source, you're taking a break from this site?
Sure, makes perfect sense...
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Not exactly, I had problems dealing with people that shoot up schools and hurt people are stupid enough to do it
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
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I don't want to get caught in the middle of this. I do find this simlar theme to be depressing. Let's all take a chill pill, shake hands, and wait for the next "video games made me do it" article. Peace. Out.
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Man what?
There's the beginning of a coherant thought in there somewhere.
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I was complaining about this article in general
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.