Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

April 17, 2009 -

With federal income tax returns due yesterday, conservative "tea party" protests were staged at a variety of locations around the United States.

For those who prefer their political activism to be of the virtual type, the Second Life metaverse featured a Tax Day tea party of its own.

The Second Life Newspaper reports:

A diverse crowd of dozens of men and women gathered... They picked up various protest signs: “Born Free, but taxed to death,” “Give Me Liberty ... not debt!”  ...A video screen on display played a short movie with a man portraying Thomas Paine speaking out against the expansion of today’s government...

 

The Tea Party in SL was sponsored by the GOP Cafe... The big topic was what the participants saw as runaway government spending gone out of control...

A few times, the sim was griefed with floods of particles. Twice, a strange loud voice pierced the air for about half a minute. Some joked this was the work of liberals, “they can’t stand the criticism...”


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Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

All of those things become invalidated when you realize that Obama is planning to double or triple that debt. Try again.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

I prefer Obama's very transparent budget plan that may become much larger but doesn't hide anything, than Bush's budget plan which hides military spending.

GameSnooper

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

 So instead we should let the recession continue until 4 years pass and that way the GOP is assured victory even if they run with that retard Sarah Palin? 

 

Tell me about a recession in which there was quick recovery with a method other than massive government spending or taking over Poland.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Sarah Palin doesn't have a chance to even run. Most people are waking up to her idiocy. In fact, if she does win the Republican Primaries, I'd imagine that that would be the best possible thing that could happen for Obama. He'd be practically garunteed a second term, regardless of how well he does in his first.

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I think you need to learn the definition of a year.  Four months do not a year make. 

 

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Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Ok I'll bite. How did you came out with that theory? seriously. Bush pumped the deficit to 10 trillion dollars in 8 years and you say the Obama Administration is spending more money than Bush? Sorry man I hate both parties with a passion but I have a hard time believing what you just said.

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Its because he gets his information from the blowhard propagandists, not in depth research.

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Actually, its from data from the CBO.  You know, the people who oversee the congressional budget.  But you can believe what you like.

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In paper it DOES sound like the Obama administration is spending more money than bush but keep in mind that the Bush administration NEVER put the money spent in the war on Iraq and Afganistan on the CBO. Bush channeled the money on the wars as "emergency funding" this way it won't be inbcluded on the Fiscal year's budget. And since the Obama administration is now including the money destined for the wars on the CBO it does look like Obama is spending more money than Bush. And yes it is a sleazy tactic from the Bush administration.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Didn't Obama just request 80 billion to fund the wars in "emergency funding" from congress?

or is he including that? not attacking what you said, just curios..

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

That part I'm not sure. Usually Bush asked for the Funding by the end of July before congress left for the fiscal year. It might be on the CBO and it might not. And to the previous post, the 250B a year was for the Iraq war alone not including afganistan and other US defense programs.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

The war in Iraq was about $200b a year. It wouldn't change the fact that Obama spent more than Bush did.

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Actually, the full cost of the Iraq war so far is about 600 Billion.  There was an amazing amount of pork spending included in the war budget.  Things like 34 billion for automakers to make their factories more environmentally friendly (money well spent, surely). 

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Is that the same protest where the crowd cheered wildly when Greta van Sustern (Sp?) brought up your "Patriot" governer Rick Perry's thinly veiled threat of secession?

Talk about hypocracy..

Repubs in 2000-2008: "Liberals Hate America!" "If you don't like it, Leave the country" "Lefties are terrorist sympathisers!" "We love our country!!"

Repubs in 2009: "Seceed! Seceed! Leave the Union!" "Revolution is Brewing!" "The government needs to be dismantled!"

I love how your ultimate "Patriot," "Ultimate American" state cheers wildly at the thought of performing the most anti-american act since the Civil War.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Get over yourselves. You Lost an election, and as the Republican's Hero, Hannity says: "Elections have consequences." Come to terms with the fact that your views on government and social behavior is outdated and that TRUE "God, Guns, and Regan" conservatives are a thing of the past.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Texas is talking about a bill that would claim its sovereignty under the tenth amendment... over 20 states are talking about it, including california...

Here is a story on one that passed it:

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/04/09/indiana-senate-passes-sr4...

The vote there was 44-3 so it received wide support from both parties...

by the way, I am NOT a republican and I voted for Obama, I just don't think you can dismiss people just because you disagree with them... even if those people are republicans...(and yes republicans are people too:)

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Sovereignity...I read the definition and still don't get it: is it like secession?

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Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Gross over simplification?  Seems like it. 

Not every Republican or conservative falls into the "God, Guns, and Reagan" category.  For example (and I know this is limited in its scope), I am a Republican.  I'm agnostic and believe religion can be problematic because of its practitioners.  I have no interest in guns unless I need them in a FPS.  And I agree with some of Reagan's approaches to government but wonder if it needs/can be/should be updated for the current social climate. 

I don't think either party should be telling the other to get over it.  The Democrats didn't do so during the Bush years and the Republicans that feel so inclined shouldn't have to do so during Obama's presidency.  Just because X% of the voting population voted for Obama does not mean that I should set my values and ideology aside to "work with the winners" approach for a facade of bipartisanship.  It didn't happen during Bush's years so why should it happen now?  I count myself as a member of the loyal opposition and reserve my right to remain critical of Obama and his administration's actions as well as those of Congress.  If anything, the loyal opposition to any of the political party serves a vital function because it allows for a national discourse on what will affect us all. 

As for what the governor of Texas said, it's more of an attempt to reassert the strength of state's rights, which I feel is something that needs to be addressed.  We are a union of over 50 states and encompasses a wide variety of political ideologies, religious views, moral values, etc.  What works in NY does not necessarily mean it'll work in UT and nor should there be one major catchall law for every state, particularly where it deals with ethical gray areas (i.e. abortion and gay marriage) and state government proceedures.  If TX believes that its economic practices are sound, then why shouldn't they be allowed to reject their portion of the stimulus?  Especially if it comes with strings attached and those conditions are influenced by legislators from across the country.  Would you really want the tax and social program mentality of NY enacted in your state if it's doing fine?

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

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 "It didn't happen during Bush's years so why should it happen now?"

Another valid question would be why should it not?

i mean just because liberals did not work with Bush does not mean Conservatives should do the same for Obama. All that does is continued the heavy rift between the two. Should one side not stand up to prove they are the better man and put aside grudges in an effort to work together? True bipartisanship will never come about with such a strict environment of Partisanship... and the partisanship will remain until one side finally decides to be willing to work with the other... Both sides have been failing to do this for who knows how long, and the Liberals lost their chance to be the better man with the end of the bush era... now it's up to the conservatives; continue the cycle or partisanship, or try and break the cycle to work towards middle ground?

Frankly, i'd like to see Liberals and conservatives in more of a friendly rivalry kind of situation instead of something that borders between bitter rivals and out right enemies

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Because they hold different beliefs about what is and is not right for society.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

"Not every Republican or conservative falls into the "God, Guns, and Reagan" category.  For example (and I know this is limited in its scope), I am a Republican.  I'm agnostic and believe religion can be problematic because of its practitioners.  I have no interest in guns unless I need them in a FPS.  And I agree with some of Reagan's approaches to government but wonder if it needs/can be/should be updated for the current social climate. "

Then you are one of the logical ones, and I'm sorry that the more vocal part of your party has made "republican" a bad word. I'm all for an opposing idea, but some of the more vocal members of your party are frighteningly stupid and scary..

 

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Again, I point to the fact that the left fringe carries some of the scary members as the right fringe would.  If anything, both parties can be seen as being subjected to the screaming, froathing whims of a very vocal minority that get more media play because they are so off the cuff. 

It's important to keep in mind that the Republican party, much like the Democrat party, is a coalition of political movements and ideology that agree to compromise for a sense of unity.  Much like the Democrats can have the Code Pink crowd to the blue dog fiscal conservative Democrats under the same banner, Republicans can range from their own intelligensia to the religious social conservatives.  I can't really choose who identify themselves as a Republican anymore than I can choose who calls themselves a gamer, especially if they go the immature route when screaming at our critics. 

As for these tea parties, I think that their message about curtailing government spending is necessary.  It wasn't just libertarians and Republicans that came out but also the aforementioned blue dog Democrats.  Unfortunately, there are elements that latched onto an anti-Obama message while forgetting that Congress appropriates the federal budget.  But then, I also understand how he functions as a figure head for the conceived ills of the federal government much like Bush. 

The important thing is if I can argue the merits of my approach since I can only speak for myself, I can't speak for anyone else.

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

First secure an independent income, then practice virtue. -Greek Proverb

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

^You sir, have basically summed up my political beliefs in two posts.

And much more coherently too   I tend to post things at 2 in the morning only to read it later and think....what was I saying again?

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Wait! Several dozen people on the internet don't like taxes?!? We better do something quick!!!

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

While Protesting can be a very valuable tool in the political arena, From my perspective the "teabaggers" hosted what can be best described as an utter clusterfuck that looked rather like conservatives still suffering butthurt over a loss to the dems in november.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

I thought these tea bag protests were about denouncing tax plans from all sorts of politicians in general, and not tied to just one party.

GameSnooper

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Jon Stewart really said it best.

"I think you might be confusing tyranny with losing."
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I'm not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I'm not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don't know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.


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I'm not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I'm not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don't know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Your assumption is correct. Most of the protesters were waving either racialy charged signs or simple expressing their discontent that their party just got clobbered on this past elections. Unfortunately these whack jobs are gonna end up leaving a bad impression about the conservative movement.

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Lol, and this second life version of the teabagging was just for the Butthurt repubs who were too damn lazy to leave thier house for the day!

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Trust me I went to one of those just to see what was going on and lets just say that there were a few signs being waved in the air that proves your butthurt theory to be correct.  ^_^'

And another thing is I want to know who was the dummy who thought it was a good idea to throw tea over the fence of the white house?  xD

Re: Tax Day Tea Party Staged in Second Life

Meh. Not necessarily my position, but whatever.

 
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