A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as Non-violent Game

April 29, 2009 -

Yesterday, provocative Italian game site Molleindustria took its Faith Fighter parody game offline. In doing so, Molleindustria admittedly bowed to pressure, primarily from the Saudi-based Organization of the Islamic Conference.

But less than a day later, Molleindustria has released Faith Fighter 2. The new version (screenshot at left) eschews the Mortal Kombat parody action of the original and comes complete with snarky intro:

Faith Fighter 2 is the sequel of the infamous game that outraged over 1.3 billions of muslims from 57 countries. The scandal resulted in a ban from all the internets!

 

We regretted the use of irony and violence and this time we want to offer you a positive, nonviolent educational game that teaches the universal values of tolerance and respect. This is a very simple game that can be played by children of all ages, religious leaders and even journalists!

Via: Kotaku


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@The whole argument of religion being some kind of evil, or stupid, or what ever (i.e. "Religion is the exact opposite of tolerance and respect.")

Bullshit on that. The problem isn't religion, it never was. Ever. I can say the same shit about athiesm, and it's just as arguable. And it's just as much shit, too.

No, the problem, has -always- been people themselves. Religion is nothing more but an idea, though of course, there are varying degrees of conviction to that idea. But nonetheless, that is all it is. You cannot actually die from religion. You die, at the hands of another person. Sure, they may be doing it -for- their god, but who is it, who is making that choice? Not their god. The person. THEY are the ones making the choice to follow through with conviction to that idea of killing for their deity. Oh sure, sometimes it's not so simple, sometimes its more societal, but society in itself is nothing but more people!

Now I am not saying -some- religions do not teach intolerance and such, because they do. I won't name those, you can make your own assumptions to that. But it's still the person's choice to believe in that, to believe, "oh, I must hate others." Just as, there are people who believe in the same faith who make the decision that, "wait, while I believe in this faith, I think that teaching is wrong, and I choose not to follow it."

You have to remember, when you say "religion" you are grouping every single one of the world, into that one word. Going back to the example I had, "Religion is the exact opposite of tolerance and respect," that in itself is the exact opposite of tolerance and respect as well. That is something, a fucking bigot would say (not saying you are, just pointing that out). And from what? Atheism.

Radical Atheism can be just as bad, as radical [insert religion here]. When you say religion is stupid, you're the one making, what is not only a stereotypical argument, but a very poor argument, as well.

And to those who say, "the world would be better off without religion," I ask you go back and learn some fucking history. Sure, there has been many wars and bloodshed over faiths, but so has there been for territory, and money, and influence. In fact, most wars, it wasn't one simple reason, even the Crusades had multiple reasons behind it. Sure, you can -say- "It's a Holy cause" but that doesn't mean it's true, it doesn't mean, that there isn't more behind it.

But you know what else we got out of religion? The arts; paintings, sculptures, music. Philosophy and new ways of thinking. And you know what else? Science. Faith birthed science.

In the end, it's always the people. People start wars. People believe in hate and intolerance and disrespect. I could say I am God, and none of you would believe me. That right there proves we have free will to believe in what we want. Sure, religion has cause a lot of bad, but it has also brought out a lot of good. If you wish to believe otherwise, fine. That is your choice, just as much as it is my choice to believe in my religion. I won't hate you for your religion, or lack of. I'll hate you, because I think you are an idiot. And that is my choice, just like all hate is.

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Thank you, Nekowolf! That pretty much sums up the way I feel on the issue, but I could never put it into words so well.

The one thing I'd like to say is that saying religion causes things like wars is like saying GTA causes people to kill people. Yeah, there may be an influence behind it, but in the end, it was the person's choice. Not religions.

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I want to summarize that post as "Religion jumped the shark when people introduced competition to it". Proselytizng is a lot like being a door-to-door salesman, isn't it? I can't take some of those people seriously when they are acting like they need to achieve higher numbers in their religion like some fund-raising challenge.

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Damned straight. Even the argument that people are "trained" to hate the other idea and declare them wrong is still a choice in the end. you can choose the easy path and follow the training or you can make the hard choice (that may cost your life depending on who trained you) to ignore your training and consider the other ideas.

This applies to more than just religion/science as well. Take any moral/ethical idea and consided the conflicting ones. It'll make an interesting thought experiment

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Agree'd, people are idiots and that'll never change.

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Whoa...I hope that flying spaghetti monster up there is going to be a new playable character soon

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Tolerance != not making fun of stupid ideas. And religion DEFEINTELY doesn't deserve respect, any more than any mental patient claiming to be Napolean does.

 

Edit: sorry, this was supposed to be a reply to the guy further up.

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I suppose I'll never understand what the point of pissing so many people off like that is. I'll bet the creators of this game shelthered their own 'deity' - the theory of biogenesis / macroevolution - that they have faith in.

Science is exploration of things observed, of things concretely seen. Science must be replicatable. Science must be lab testable. To be science, we must be able to isolate the variables in the environment something occurs in, and directly observe it. Otherwise it's referred to as forensic.

The cold, hard, ruthless machine of science produces equally as much useful output for whichever input of origins you use as input. Biogenesis / macroevolution is then faith. In fact, the Old Testament, which is in Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, defines faith quite clearly:

Hebrews 11:1 : Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

I heard someone describe this game as 'equal opportunity' bashing. Psh.

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 Look, its Wolvenmoon again.

Are you seriously trying to say that using forensic evidence to determine what happened is not a science? Good god man, cmon, you're not even trying anymore.

I guess everybody who has ever been caught via forensic analysts is actually innocent, after all, they totally just made wild guesses on who did it based on their 'fake' forensic evidence right?

You can also stop your attemps at trying to equate science to religion. It's patently ridiculous.

And while you seem to be of the opinion that forensic science isn't actually science, may I point out that no form of god even has that to prove its existence. Feel free to point me towards hard forensic evidence that god exists.

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"I suppose I'll never understand what the point of pissing so many people off like that is. I'll bet the creators of this game shelthered their own 'deity' - the theory of biogenesis / macroevolution - that they have faith in."

Pretty sure the alien and/or FSM were intended to represent the atheists/agnostics (though I guess it could also be for the scientologists :D).  Regardless, I seriously doubt these guys would care if someone was spouting off about their own faith.

This is, of course, assuming they're not members of any of the major religions they already depicted (and they hit the big ones for sure).

 

Regardless, there's still a big difference between the "faith" of religion and the "faith" of evolution; there is still non-trivial evidence available today, repeatable, hard evidence, that supports evolution.  The same just cannot be said for religion; in fact, we have evidence today that refutes many of the claims of modern religion.

Yes, at some point, we all have to take something on faith, because we are incapable of knowing or even understanding the true origins of existence.  It's just a question of how much you're willing to take on faith.

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I'm pretty sure the alien is Xenu.  The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't an athiest diety in the true sense, but merely a parody pointing out the absurdity of Intelligent Design.  This is similar to the Invisible Pink Unicorn or that Floating Teapot.

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> The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't an athiest diety in the true sense

I'm curous to know who or what is a athiest diety in the true sense. :)

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Or as Mark Twain defined it, faith is believeing something you know ain't so.

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Definitely snappier than my response! :-P

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So we are looking to the bible to define words of language now? That's gotta be about as good as referencing it for its historical accuracy.

Lets look at the Cambridge English Dictionaries definition of Faith shall we?

faith

noun

1 [C] a particular religion

2 [U] strong belief in God or a particular religion

 

To be science, we must be able to isolate the variables in the environment something occurs in, and directly observe it. Otherwise it's referred to as forensic.

I guess the term 'Forensic SCIENCE' is completely alien to you then?

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Awesome Molleindustria; I love it.  

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Faith Fighter 2 is proof-positive that games are art.  It takes a message, makes it into an analogy, and uses gameplay (simple as it is) to get that message across.  It's elegant and meaningful.

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Also blatantly says that art isn't meant to be comfortable. If you don't piss people off, you haven't accomplished much.

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Since I'm not able to play the game at work and i'll forget about it when I get home, what exactly is the new gameplay like?

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Beat to it...

 

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SPOILER ALERT!!!! =P

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The new "gameplay" is just clicking on the various deities to show "love and respect" for them.  The more time that passes without clicking on any given deity, the less substantial it becomes until it fades away altogether and you lose.

The game over screen reads "YOU DIDN'T RESPECT A RELIGION AND NOW THE WORLD IS A TOTAL MESS!" =D

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That actually a uniqe way to look at religion if you ask me.

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No need to click. Keep the button pressed and hover over deities.

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You win Molleindustria. You win.

 

Also for those less savvy. They also have the original Faith Fighter still on their Newgrounds page. They didn't cave, they just moved it. Which gives people who want to play it access to it, and any stupid reporters the right to claim that they won by making the world a better place by removing the game.

 

Molleindusrtia, you rock my world!

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Oh, good.  I haven't played as Jesus, God, or Xenu yet.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

Seems I must re-take the role of being the Anti-Jack. I recommend this game despite never playing it. Tolerance and respect, especially in a religious view, is something I very strongly believe in.

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Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

You should play it before you say that. It sucks. I wouldn't recommend this shitty game to anyone.

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This teaches tolerance the way GTA teaches you to kill hookers.

 

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It's an oxymoron.  Religion is the exact opposite of tolerance and respect. 

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Interesting, though I doubt such animosity stems from one's love of tolerance and respect...

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Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

Careful, EZK might get snip-happy about stereotyping again.

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

Quite true. That was kinda my point. Let's not confuse an entire demographic with the agendas of a few outspoken individuals.


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My issue with it I guess, is people seem to assume that there would be no such thing as intolerance or disrespect if religion didn't exist.   I hate to say it, but humanity never need religion for that, it just used as an excuse more then anything on that regard XD

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 You have a point. I think there might be some difference though. Currently anybody can spout hate and intolerance and people are too afraid to say anything to shut them down because the cry of 'religious persecution' will rise.

I think if they didn't have religion to hide their views behind, they might get called on it more often. Of course, they'd probably just find something else to take the heat for them.

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I always saw it as more of a symptom of all the things that are psycholocially wrong with people, not as the cause of anything.

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Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

Now you're being defamatory to the entire human race! SNIP HIM I SAY! SNIP HIM NOW!!!

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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I'm not just being stereotypical or biased...

I'm biased and Stereotypcial to everyone equally XD

Re: A Day After Removal, Faith Fighter Resurrected as

Just ignore him. He doesn't like the fact the mods berated him so he's doing the thing Jack did as well, that being "THEY'RE DOING IT TOO SO PUNISH THEM!!!". Slight difference is that I think (and hope) he's being sarcastic, but in the end it's still because he probably doesn't like losing.

 

And yes, it's awesome to simply be stereotypical to everyone. ^_^ I do it all the time.

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You bit, where do I lose again?

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Meh, not everyone who is religious is like that.

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So is atheism and agnosticism. LOL! Seriously, it looks to be "Religulous: The Game." I'll have to check it out! Thou shalt game on!

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Hehe gotta love massive sarcasm. Also the ending is good.

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Correction: it is a stupid game, made for the sole purpose of bitching about people getting angry at them.

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Indeed.  It doesn't go anywhere, and it's stupidly simple... got to 200 years got bored.

Probably took them all of 10 minutes to write it.  I'm sure their advertisers will be happy though.

 

 
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