Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

April 30, 2009 -

Pacific Islanders are expressing outrage over a popular iPhone game which they say encourages the torture and killing of characters who resemble them.

The Brisbane Times reports that the Pacific Women's Information Network has targeted Pocket God, which puts the player in a deity-like position of power over "primitive islanders." Group spokesperson Elaine Howard - who lives in the United States - told the newspaper:

How do you think people would react if you created a game where you were God and you could create and kill as many Mexicans as you wanted? Or Asians? People would be outraged.

I hope you don't decide to advertise your application in New Zealand or Australia because you will get a backlash of the same intensity.

Dr. Malakai Koloamatangi of New Zealand's Canterbury University added:

To claim [the characters] are not Pacific islanders is ridiculous. Everything about them is Polynesian. How can they justify encouraging the torture of a race in this way? It's disgusting.

I'm not saying let's bring in the thought police but there needs to be limits on what is acceptable, and this surpasses those.

Bolt Creative, which developed the 99-cent app, denied that it intended to depict any actual ethnic group in the game.


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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

"How do you think people would react if you created a game where you were God and you could create and kill as many Mexicans as you wanted? Or Asians? People would be outraged. "

 

A game like that already exists.  It's called The Sims

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I move that we BAN ALL VIDEO GAMES. I have found something in every single video game thats racist and demeaning to all races and sentient beings. Come the frak on people! Trying to compare this game to an actual group of people is like saying the Super Mario Bros. game is a game about white supremacy.

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

WRONG!

 

Super Mario Brothers is about a pair of mass-murdering Italians.

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

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This game will be banned like Baby Shaker was. Thanks for being a bunch of pussies, Apple.

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I love this game! And, seriously, racist? I'm sorry, but if it was fluffed as a group of stranded tourists, who were caucasian, nobody would be complaining.

Also, the game wouldn't see a probable surge in sales, either.

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I know a Polynesian girl.  She doesn't look anything like these guys.

Maybe she's lying about her roots?

 

Andrew Eisen

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 Obama doesn't have huge lips. Some Jews don't have huge noses. Not all asians are good at math....

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Are you saying she's the exception to the rule (or stereotype)?  I wasn't aware any Polynesians looked like that.

 

Andrew Eisen

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Got another one of those? I can't see it.

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Check the linked Brisbane Times article.  I just copied the screen its using.

 

Andrew Eisen

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 http://www.appcraver.com/pocket-god/

 

Check the screen-shot. The Moai makes this game specifically about killin' Easter Islanders. It's something that is even more specific than Pyramids since Aztecs and several other societies have created similar great works.

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I have to disagree. It's a matter of intention. Did they use the setting, simply for the setting? Or were they actually trying to make a racist statement?

How do we know that, they specifically set it on Easter Island? Maybe someone wanted to put in a Moai head, because hey, it LOOKS tropical island-like.

We can argue over that all day. But in the end, it's all about the intention behind it.

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 The point is that there aren't Maoi statues all over the place. They are found in only one place in the entire world, created by only one culture. Regardless of intention, if this game was about smashing guys with large goofy hats wearing bandoliers in front of the Alamo you really think it wouldn't have been intended to be about texans?

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"How do you think people would react if you created a game where you were God and you could create and kill as many Mexicans as you wanted? Or Asians? People would be outraged."

I'd buy a game like that, because if it specifically said that the people I was killing were Mexicans, it is probably set in a satirical fashion and would be funny or awesome. At the very least I would buy the game with an open mind and play it before I decided that the game was/wasn't offensive, like a sensible human being. If I found the game to be in bad taste, I simply wouldn't play it.

Oh wait...did...did I just make SENSE right there instead of jumping to conclusions and trying to force MY views on other people?

Ignoring the fact that this game probably just says "islanders" without ever straightly saying that it is a specific group of uncivilized people. Especially the group of uncivilized imbeciles that would find offense in this. (Note that the only uncivilized people are those that find this offensive, not necessarily the other people in this group of islanders)

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

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So in your example if something didn't say Mexicans but had an eagle on a prickly pear cactus eating a snake always right on screen it wouldn't be suggestive at all?

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

And so it begins....

 

First the Moslems protests, then the Hindus protests, then the Christians protest, then Jews protest -and the finally pacific islanders protests. There's a reason why we freedom of speech; there's reason behind a fine tradition of not letting religion or any pressure group letting pressure us into submission when it comes to freedom of speech.

And it this:

Everyone can then come and say that they don't like this or that game, just like OIC did when they made the Italian company behind Faith Figther take it down. Any politician or high authority can at a point in an investigation just say that he or she feels insulted if or offended when (if) the papers make accusations against him, say for not doing his job properly or the misuse of public funds.

In Black and White 1 and 2 you could also punish (pacific) islanders if you so choose.

Benoit Sokal made an adventure game called Paradise set in Africa; guess which people populated this game - if you guesed africans, you're right :)

Nikopol, also an adventure game made by Sokal featured flying Egyptian pyramids, as well as the main villain was Egyptian of sorts. I haven't seen the Egyptian government protests this game.

 

 

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

I haven't seen the Egyptian government protests this game.

First you need a self-important busy-body to bring the game to their attention and tell them that they should find it offensive.

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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"I'm not saying let's bring in the thought police but there needs to be limits on what is acceptable, and this surpasses those."

This statement is a complete contradiction...

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

I'm offended that you're offended that I'm offended that you're offended that....wait....what are we offended about now?

*******

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

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Canadians...

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IDK, the only bad Canadian I ever knew was Derovirus, and that's if he really was Canadian. I know a Canadian guy that goes to my school, and he's a good person.

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"A Chrono Trigger is anything that unleashes its will or desire to change history!" -Gaspar

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

You need to put an 88 mph pic in the above thread of replies. I wanted to post one, but I can't find it.

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"A Chrono Trigger is anything that unleashes its will or desire to change history!" -Gaspar

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Tomorrow: Anthropologists offended by Cro-Mag Rally.  "The idea that a caveman could drive a go-kart is ludicrous and offensive to our noble early-modern ancestors.  I'm not saying we need to send the Thought Police back in time, but I've already warmed up the flux capacitor and I'll be damned if I'm wasting the 1.21 gigawatts."

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1.21 Gigawatts!

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Great scott!

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88 MILES PER HOUR!

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Er.....flux capacitor?

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AEMNTxd2ebQ/RsyEiWdCwHI/AAAAAAAAADU/hoNZCG10tbc/s320/88mph.jpg

*******

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

When this baby hits 88 mph...

 

...you're gonna see some serious shit.

Sucks I don't have a pic to go with it.

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"The sun will always rise tomorrow. We can only live for today, and hope more days will come." -Unknown

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"A Chrono Trigger is anything that unleashes its will or desire to change history!" -Gaspar

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Here you go

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

This is heavy.

GameSnooper

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 I think we need to send these people a care package saying Im sorry you have such a low self esteem that when you look at this crappy iphone app you see yourself.  But then again I wanted to do that with the Mexicians complaining about the Taco Bell Dog because frankly if you see your self as that dog its just sad not insulting just sad.

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Hey, I got it! Lets pick a seemingly random item to be offended about and then write our local papers until they finally cave and allow us to whine to our communities. Anyone have any ideas?

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How about how newspapers have sharp edges and are white.  So not only are they dangerous for the children, but they are saying it is ok to use white people as a messageboard...

Sorry, best I can come up with.  If anyone can make it sound more silly I invite the input.

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Not to mention the enslavement of the BLACK ink which is forced to do all the hard work while the white paper just has to concentrate on being white and keeping the ink in its place!

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Darksaber, that is so much win I am still picking myself off the floor.  Now we need to find an article about an orange cone and we would be all set.

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If we combine it together well I think we got a winner? Now then, should we include a note at the end saying it was all satire or should we let them figure it out.


Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Why bother.  They are going to sensationalize it anyway.  It will be *like* totally true on Fox News within an hour if releasing it.

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I HATE the colour orange...

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

So no Orange Box for you, then? ;D

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Or links on this form.

Look at the evil orange link

 

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Once again. I will say it.

 

PLAY THE GAME... then you criticise in both the good and the bad.

TBoneTony

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Protesting about s***ty cut-price iPhone games seems to be the latest 'in' thing doesn't it?

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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What annoys me is that these people expect all characters in Video Games to have no race, no gender, no distinguishing features whatsoever, it's ridiculous.

If I wrote a game set on a tropical island, what would they expect me to populate it with? Eskimos?

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But then you p**s off the eskimoes!

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Man, you're just diggin' yourself deeper by not calling them "Inuit."

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Fangamer

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Heh, I was was growing up when it was perfectly acceptable to call Native Americans 'Indians', so I'm probably a bit behind the curve on the latest Politically Correct terminology ;)

Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

Even "natives" is a little fishy here in Canada.  Proper vocab guidelines says we call 'em "First Nations."

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Re: Pacific Islanders Protest iPhone Game

O_o Sounds like an Insurance Company....

 
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