Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

May 6, 2009 -

The once-happy business union of Ultima series creator Richard Garriott and Korea-based MMO publisher NCsoft turned vicious at its end, according to documents filed by Garriott with U.S. District Court in Texas.

Kotaku broke the news of the lawsuit yesterday, but GamePolitics has the details - and they're ugly.

Garriott, best known for the Ultima RPG series, alleges that he lost millions when NCsoft manipulated him into cashing out stock options earlier this year after firing him late in 2008. Garriott's dismissal is news in itself, as his departure from the company was presented to the gaming community by NCsoft as voluntary.

From the complaint:

In... November 2008, Chris Chung, President of NCSoft's North American operations, informed Mr. Garriott that NCSoft has decided to "part company." Although Mr. Garriott objected to his dismissal, Mr. Chung insisted that the decision was final - Mr. Garriott had to go.

 

As Mr. Garriott prepared to leave NCSoft, however, Mr. Garriott learned that NCsoft had internally re-characterized his termination by Mr. Chung as a "voluntary" resignation... This mischaracterization had profound and detrimental effects on Mr. Garriott's stock options: if NCsoft terminated Mr. Garriott's employment (which it did) then the options - worth tens of millions of dollars - would remain in effect until 2011; but if Mr. Garriott resigned voluntarily (which he did not), then NCsoft might have terminated those options... within ninety days of his departure...

 

NCsoft forced Mr. Garriott into a Hobson's choice of exercising his options... and forced him to sell into one of the worst equity markets in modern history...

Garriott claims that he not only lost millions by prematurely selling his options, but also incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax liability associated with the unwanted deal.

Garriott's well-publicized turn as a space tourist also comes up in the suit:

Following the lauch of the Tabula Rasa game, Mr. Garriott took a leave of absence... to pursue a different kind of launch... Mr. Garriott used the considerable media coverage surrounding his space-launch to publicize and promote Tabula Rasa for NCsoft. For example, Mr. Garriott send a coded message to the Tabula Rasa player base during his space launch...

 

NCsoft terminated Mr. Garriott's employment while he was still in quarantine from his space flight...

 

Despite Mr. Garriott's repeated objections, NCsoft refused to retract its misstatements regarding the nature of Mr. Garriott's departure and the cancellation of his stock options...

In his lawsuit, Garriott alleges breach of contract, fraud and negligent misrepresentation on the part of NCsoft. He clams to have suffered "more than $27,000,000 in actual damages."

DOCUMENT DUMP: Grab a copy of Garriott's complaint here.


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Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

 Out of consideration for Gaming Observer, I've updated the blog post. 

 

http://www.underdevelopmentlaw.com

 

Have a lovely day. 

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Mona,

 

I am curious about the legal ramifications of the open letter you mention in your blog post:

    "Many of you probably wonder what my plans are, now that I have achieved the lifelong dream of going to space. Well, that unforgettable experience has sparked some new interests that I would like to devote my time and resources to. As such, I am leaving NCsoft to pursue those interests."

I am no legal expert, I do Pharma Consulting work for a living and as part of what I do I frequently come in to contact with high/mid level execs who are leaving, or being removed from the companies they work for, for various reasons. Even in the case of a Termination, the customer facing information is rarely (except in the cases of upcoming tort action or gross negligence that forces accountability) expressed as what has actually occurred. Even in the case of an executive being removed out-right the typical external boilerplate will read very similar to what is written above "I am leaving (company name) to pursue other interests" is as generic a sentiment as can be offered.

Especially in a customer facing communication it would be considered bad form in most companies I have worked for to air dirty laundry and internal troubles to the customer (or in this case fan) base. Now I've never worked for a publishing company, but I imagine for image reasons it is even more sensible to make your customer facing communication be tactful for image reasons. Imagine the ramifications NCSoft could expect if the "beloved" Lord British (or General British) was Fired. They would probably suffer permanent image problems. 

Thoughts?

 

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 I understand your sentiment and I agree that the evidence isn't conclusive-- but in he said she said arguments it almost always comes down to corroborative evidence and documentation. I can't even make an educated guess because I don't know what documentation exists; based on the implications of the complaint it seems as though NCSoft has documentation of a voluntary termination (which Garriott alleges are false) and Garriott is relying on phone calls and hearsay. That doesn't bode well for Garriott.

So far the only documentation we've seen is the open letter. If Garriott can produce authenticated e-mails and correspondence supporting his claim, that would likely refute the open letter. However, if NCSoft can produce a signed resignation or any other documentation it will hurt and potentially destroy Garriott's case. The legal effect of the signed resignation would trump any assertions made outside of the document. NCSoft's a big company with plenty of lawyers-- it is unlikely that they wouldn't have gotten SOMETHING in writing as to Garriott's termination. It's standard business practice with executive positions to get something in writing as a CYA measure.

It will come down to documentation and testimony from Chung and NCWest's HR girl. If they corroborate his statements he has a stronger case. If NCSoft gets depositions that say contrary, Garriott will have a very difficult time. 

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I agree that a lot of the comments here - suggesting that Garriot is rich already and shouldn't begrudge the loss, also making judgements about his work - are just ridiculous.

Sounds so much like the kind of people that justify software piracy.  Doesn't matter, the companies you're stealing your games from are rich - they won't miss it, right?  Big ol' Activision won't mind if you just go and torrent you some Call of Duty, they gots loads of money already!

I suppose, in his own mind, every moron thinks he's right, and this is why he remains a moron.

That said... I did enjoy the earlier Ultima games, but didn't like Ultima Online or anything else he did afterward.  I didn't play Tabula Rasa either.  But this is just my opinion, it certainly doesn't mean that the games were bad or others didn't enjoy them.

While I support his right to get paid - I do think he was mightily overpaid.  But it's also not surprising.  When you can say that you're the guy who made the first big MMO and kicked off the genre in the most popular sense, it's bound to impress at least a few people, and I wouldn't be surprised if NCSoft used Garriot's name and participation to attract financing (I would have).  And if you look at the kind of money that investment groups are throwing at MMOs, virtual worlds, and social networks right now... what he was promised isn't actually that much in the scope of the economics surrounding those businesses.

 

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NCsoft really has gone down hill. They're desperate for cash, which can be seen in their recent guild wars updates turning it into a micropayment game. (Really macropayment, they've cleverly set it up to where most of the cash shop stuff is involuntary if you really play)

I will not buy securom games. http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message1.jpg and http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message2.jpg

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

 You realize a stock option is a right (not an obligation) to PURCHASE stock at a set price, right? Not sell?

  Nothing about this forced Garriott to sell. He made that decision independantly. Furthermore, you can exercise your stock option at any time once the right vests. He could have exercised his option to buy up to 50% of the 120,000 shares by 2002, when NCSoft's shares were triple the stock option purchase price. 

  The fact that he elected not to exercise the option sooner demonstrates poor business planning. No one *forced* him to not exercise sooner, nor did anyone *force* him to exerise the option when shares were at $52 a share (the option price: $99), and no one forced him to sell however many shares he sold thereafter. 

   He also was ok with the Open Letter from General British, which made it clear to the public that the choice to leave was his. It's more likely that the conversation went like this:

   "Your game has cost us millions and is a money pit. We're shutting it down, and we no longer wish to continue doing business. You can resign and save face or we can fire you."

   "Ok, I resign."

already wrote about this: 

 

http://www.underdevelopmentlaw.com

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I think I have a better explanation...

Stock options are a form of compensation.  They're not an opportunity to buy stock, but actual shares of stock issued (purchased for the employee BY THE EMPLOYER) at a certian market rate (let's say $10).  So in this hypothetical example, NCSoft says to Lord British - "here, in addition to your salary, we'll give you 100,000 shares at $10."  These type of options are typically tied to vesting periods, designed to retain the employee - i.e. if you gave me 100,000 shares and wanted me to stay with the company for five years, I would be able to vest 20,000 at the end of the first year, 40,000 at the end of the second year, and so on, up to 100,000 at the end of the fifth year.  Typical but not always the case.  When you vest those options (during a vesting period), the options are sold at the then current market price (let's say $20), and the employee receives the difference.  In this example, with 100,000 shares at a $10 purchase, vested at $20, Lord British would have pulled $1,000,000 minus applicable taxes (AGAIN - he didn't buy these shares, they were given to him as part of his compensation).

Stock options are typically a great form of compensation because they incentivise employees to care about the overall performance of a company and not just their piece - the better a company is doing, the more their options are worth.

What he seems to be complaining about is that he was "compelled" to vest his options at an inappropriate time, and that had NCSoft not defrauded him, he would have been able to vest at a later date when the market value for the shares were higher.

This business about stock options meaning he was allowed to buy shares is... well, wrong and a bit shocking coming from an attorney.  You may be getting a common stock option confused with an employee stock purchase plan, which is entirely different.

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 What Does Stock Option Mean?
A privilege, sold by one party to another, that gives the buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy (call) or sell (put) a stock at an agreed-upon price within a certain period or on a specific date.
 
In the U.K., it is known as a "share option".

 

What Does Employee Stock Option - ESO Mean?
A stock option granted to specified employees of a company. ESOs carry the right, but not the obligation, to buy a certain amount of shares in the company at a predetermined price. Anemployee stock option is slightly different from a regular exchange-traded option because it is not generally traded on an exchange, and there is no put component. Furthermore, employees typically must wait a specified vesting period before being allowed to exercise the option. 

 

Source

 

Pretty sure you're confusing a stock option with stock compensation. 

 

 

Investopedia explains Stock Compensation
This is a common method used by corporations to compensate executives. The theory is that executives will work harder since they want their own stock to rise in value and, therefore, have the best interests of shareholders in mind.

 

 

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock ...

I wish this message board would let me draw a big arrow back to what I've already said.  It suffices.

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By your definition there is nothing to exercise--and Garriott was fully compensated after the first two years of his employment, according to his contract's vesting period. And apparently the US Tax Code incorrectly interprets incentive stock options for employees, as well. 

 

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00000422----000-.html

(b) Incentive stock option

For purposes of this part, the term “incentive stock option” means an option granted to an individual for any reason connected with his employment by a corporation, if granted by the employer corporation or its parent or subsidiary corporation, to purchase stock of any of such corporations
 
And according to you, the SEC is also wrong:
 
 
You should really, REALLY research a subject matter before you claim any authority over it. If you choose to remain ignorant on a subject that's your business. There's no need to perpetuate stupidity in others. 
 
 
 

 

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Seeing as I've held the type of stock options that I'm talking about, and these are the type of stock options Garriot is referring to, which I did not need to purchase, but were purchased for me, I'm not sure there's any need to debate your misinterpretation of the situation.

That said, your snide and snarky demeanor isn't flattering.  I guess it's no wonder that you've got Kotaku links all over your wittle blog - they like to be dick-ish for fun too.

But hey, who am I to judge?  I think most people understand that there are plenty of "attorneys" that can really only be called that on a technical basis.  You know who you are.

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 I don't think you've held the type of stock options held by Garriott, and I strongly recommend you actually read his contract, review the vesting period, and pay particular attention to Articles 2 & 3:

2. Grant of Stock Options

The Company agrees to grant on the Grant Date to the Recipient, and the Recipient hereby agrees to accept from the Company on the Grant Date, the stock options to purchase Common Stock of the Company up to the Number of Stock Option Shares, at the Exercise Price Per Share during the Exercise period... 

Exercise of Stock Option

3.1 During the Exercise Period, the Recipient may exercise, by delivering the Exercise Notice to the Company, all or part of the Stock Options which have been vested and not cancelled under Article 8 of this Agreement, at one time or several times, in accordance with the terms and conditions in this Article. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary herein, the number of Exercise Notices given by the Recipient to the Company in any one year period shall not exceed four (4). 

3.2. The Exercise Notice shall be executed and delivered by the recipient and shall state and attach thereto, among other things, the following:

...

3.2.3 The Number of Stock Option Shares the Recipient purports to purchase pursuant to the Exercise Notice and the remaining Number of Stock Option Shares not exercised...

 

etc. 

 

 

You had SARS. Stock Appreciation Right. Not a stock option agreement.

http://content.members.fidelity.com/products/stockoptions/aboutsar/0,,,00.html

 

And for the record, I won't get my license to practice until October, so you're safe for now from the "evil bad wrong attorney". 

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You may be correct, and if I'm wrong I'll happily admit it, though I'm crunched for time and haven't been able to review your links.

That said - there's no real reason we should be taking jabs at each other - you're hot and I want you to like me, 'cause fanboy gaming nerds really shouldn't alienate cosplay gaming chicks.  I think that's an actual law in Sweden.

But yes, your attitude is... unbecoming.  I know attorneys decades more qualified and experienced in the very field you hope to specialize in and they would never communicate like this, even on a message board, and especially not in a BLOG.  Be careful what you put out there.

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 I don't normally exhibit that kind of hostility, but to be fair you were insulting in your initial response and vehemently adhering to in an incorrect assumption. I do apologize for my behavior. It was out of line. Thanks for the compliment, but I am neither a cosplayer nor available. :)

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I was slightly abrassaive - initially - but only because you went after Garriotr so hard.  Right or wrong (and trust me, the man hasn't entertained me in almost two decades), he still deserves some respect.  At least that's my feeling.

And I'm really just being funny, not hitting on you - to be clear :-)

But the cosplay comment comes from this...

http://legalplay.typepad.com/about.html

...looking so much like this...

http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/Final%20Fantasy%20X-2%20-%20Yuna%201...

 

 

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock ...

 I was mostly going after Garriott's lawyers and business/financial advisors for whatever advice they provided to convince him to exercise his options without negotiating purchase at the market price, and then immediately selling off those stocks without waiting a year to ensure favorable tax treatment. I have nothing personally against Garriott. 

 

As for the pics-- it was a halloween costume for a quiz show event at my alum. 

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I loved Tabula Rasa, It was a much beter game than WoW was at 9-10 months old.

 

I played that game from open beta to the last day it was live and was extremly sad to see it go.

 

The game did have flaws and yes it did have bugs but EVERY MMO will have them especialy so early in its life.

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 I loved Tabula Rasa, it was one of the best games I have ever played and I liked it more than Wow, Gw, EQ, and all the MMOs I played. I was seriously pissed when the servers shut down because they released tons of patches that just took the game to the next level. That game was wayyy better than WOW and I loved the unique gameplay that TR offered. Screw all you guys who haven't played the game and trash talk it that game was amazing even though only 6 people played it lol..

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

The issues seen here aren't to to with Tabula Rasa's supposed quality (Haven't played it so I can't say) nor does it have any real bearing with how much cash is in Garriott's swimming pool.

The issue is that NC Soft may have strongarmed Garriott into "leaving" as opposed to actually firing him, forcing him to then exercise a stock option at an incredibly bad time, as opposed to him maintining the option till the market improved (assuming NC Soft lives that long). Period.

As an additional note, it certianly appears that Garriott went ahead and got the needed permissions to go away to go into space. His leave seems to have been worked out considerably ahead of time, and I doubt that he would have neglected that one detail given how many -other- hoops he had to leap through in order to get into earth orbit. Going up there isn't like making a run to the corner 7-11. Timelines for orbital insertion and deorbiting, as well as quarantine times are all worked out months in advance. This means, additionally, that NC Soft specifically timed their "discussions" at a time that Garriott would not be able to respond at full tilt. The timing suggests that they specifically set it up to hit him in the knees to help lower their financial obligations as they completely offloaded themselves from his creation.

In the end, it's dirty pool on NC Soft's part. Not that I didn't expect it from them though. Personally, I expect either a settlement or them to lose, in the end.

 

Best keep your wits about you: The gears of life are always spinning, and ignorance eventually means you'll get caught in them.

Best keep your wits about you: The gears of life are always spinning, and ignorance eventually means you'll get caught in them.

You gotta be f'in kidding me

$24M?  I'm betting that's more than the entire TR development team was paid over the life of the game --a critical and commerical failure that Garriott had complete creative control over, and complete responsibility for.  

This is insane greed on both NCSoft's and Garriott's part.  It's no different than CEOs who tank their company yet claim they "earned" their obscene compensation because of their irreplaceable "talent".  (Talent at what?  Lighting mountains of cash on fire?)

F 'em both.

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What annoys me is these people saying 'He's rich and his game is crap in my opinion, so he doesn't deserve to win this case, because I'm not rich and have added absolutely nothing to the gaming world in any way.'

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And hence the WoW comments. These people can't be bothered to think anything through, which implies that they are fanboys. In my experience most fanboys that hate on Garriott tend to be WoW fanboys, which would tend to support the "can't be bothered to think anything through" theory.

 

-- Dan "SWATJester" Rosenthal; Executive Director, http://www.gameslaw.net

-- Dan Rosenthal

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How is that any different than your blind support of this guy?  Hypocrite much?

If he's due the money, they'll have their day in court.  My only statements here have amounted to:

 

1) There are two sides to this story.

2) Tabula Rasa was a shitty game.

3) Calling everyone who disagrees with you a WoW fanboy makes you sound like a retard.

/never played WoW

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To be honest, I've never been a big fan of MMO's in any shape or form, I've tried a few:

Eve Online - Grief Online

Wow - 'Just give us money and we'll move the level ceiling up a bit, till we need more money...'

Guild Wars - Lag Wars.

Second Life - Lots of Second, no Life.

Ultima Online - 'Which one's me?'

But I do respect Garriot for what he's done, he might be several barns short of a chicken shed, but he was also one of the forefathers of the graphical MMO, before he and his ilk came along, Online Gaming consisted of MUD-like games which described everything in text.

In truth, most of the worst comments were on Kotaku, however, I don't have to like Garriot, or his games, to respect the work he has done.

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

What's with all the World of Warcraft comments, anyways? One was fine and the second was a slight satirical chuckle, but now you guys just look stupid.

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

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Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock ...

Well mine was just using WoW for satirical purposes, when claiming that UO and WoW were from the same time period.

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Ya i picked up on that easily but people tend to miss that kind of thing so its not to be unexpected that people will call you out on something you thought would be unmistakable farce. I frequently append /sarcasm when i do that so as to prevent unnecessary fallout lol :P

UOs direct competition was EQ, i remember when i started playing EQ, UO fanboys would just complain all day in public channels how much EQ sucked to which the standard reply was, go play UO then, then they would lament all their friends stopped playing and are now playing EQ.

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Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

He wants an awful lot of money for a guy thats never made anything I found remotely interesting.

How many millions did Tabula Rasa flush down the can?

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

If someone stole money from you, committing fraud and other bullshit things like that, you wouldn't be the slightest bit pissed? Oh wait, he's rich, so it doesn't matter. Your comment equates to telling a furniture salesman that the person that stole from him doesn't matter because you've never liked any of that furniture.

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Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

Ultima is owned by Electronic Arts. How can the success of that series have any bearing on this case against NCSoft?

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"He wants an awful lot of money for a guy thats never made anything I found remotely interesting."

 

Try not using absolutes like the word never, if you intend to only talk about what he's done for NCSoft.  If you think i was being overly judgemental on your choice of words, then how about I ask this instead.  WTF does your opinion on the quality of his work have any bearing on what he brought to NCSoft financially/creatively and what he was owed legally?

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock Options

So him making games that millions of people loved and many of whom still play is null and void because you didn't like them?

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Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock ...

and we can't forget that the only reason tabula rasa made even a cent was because it had Lord British's name on the box.

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Actually, Tabula Rasa was a hell of a lot of fun, and was stable with no market competitors at the time it was nixed. Coincidence?

-- Dan "SWATJester" Rosenthal; Executive Director, http://www.gameslaw.net

-- Dan Rosenthal

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Right, that ultima series was a TOTAL money sink.

Like, why would you want to play UO when you had games like WoW already on the market.

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No sympathy, he made a shitty game and wouldn't listen to anyone else when they told him this, it then took a nose dive and a load of people had to be made redundant. NCSoft should sue him!

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Internal politics is what this is. Simple as that.  NCsoft is no more a villain than Garriott is for causing the quagmire that was the shutdown of a very anticipated but ultimately not-well-received game, Tabula Rasa.  The TR team did what they could - its leadership, however, was lack luster at best and this lead to its demise.  Yes, blame should be on Richard and his cronies.  I was surprised that he "chose to part ways," after running the business like they had, this seems a more fitting end.  Always more than one side to the story, lets see if NCsoft can properly articulate their position - no matter how crappy the situation was handled.

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Funny, the people who still played the game didn't seem to think it was shitty. I bet you're a WoW-bot: anything that's not WoW is shitty, right?

-- Dan "SWATJester" Rosenthal; Executive Director, http://www.gameslaw.net

-- Dan Rosenthal

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I played it.  It sucked.  And please, don't accuse me of being a WoW fanboy, because I play Guild Wars.

 

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

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No, i'm not a wow bot and I won't ever advocate computer crack but I did play TR and it was a shitty game, if you'd like me to start listing reasons why, I can make a start but it might take a good long while to get them all noted down however...

Given the number of people who were playing it when it closed I'd say most of the people who also played it thought it was shitty. Given it was closed after just a year I would NCsoft thought it was pretty shitty also ;)

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It's a matter of opinion of course, but when the company decides to shut the game down rather than try to squeeze what profit they can out of it, I'd say that's pretty bad.
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That's a stupid argument.  Stop making it.

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Please detail how it is less intelligent than "It's a shitty game". I'll wait.

-- Dan "SWATJester" Rosenthal; Executive Director, http://www.gameslaw.net

-- Dan Rosenthal

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I did play the game. For having one tenth of one percent the player base of WoW, it had more crying on a good day than WoW's pulled off on class change heavy patch days. The people who played it didn't seem to think it was that great.

A great many people hung on to the game hoping it would start going in a better direction - all the pieces were there, the potential was there. But it kept going in the wrong direction, farther and farther down the roads that caused the crying, and it kept losing players. I'm convinced Garriot is forever stuck in the bad old days of MMORPGs and RPGs in general - I don't know if he honestly feels the old way was better and people just never saw it to give it a chance, or if he'll be like the few happy TR players who don't want it to succeed anyway because wowfags and eqheads don't deserve it. I tend to lean towards the former, but there's been enough MMOs with potential that just don't hold a paying player base because they feel the same way.

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How about I tried the game and thought it was shitty?  Is that logical enough?

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Listen to who?  The screaming hordes of the internet?  If that is the authority that you are suggesting companies listen to then it's a good thing Nintendo paid no attention when they launched the Wii. 

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Not the internet hordes but those a little closer to the action ;).

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I wonder if NC Soft can countersue for money lost on that shitty game he made for them. 

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Cancelling a game that is still being patched tends to kill your chances of getting any money.

-- Dan "SWATJester" Rosenthal; Executive Director, http://www.gameslaw.net

-- Dan Rosenthal

Re: Richard Garriott Sues NC Soft Over Millions in Stock ...

Cancelling a game that is costing money to run because it has under 10,000 subscribers makes financial sense.  Under your logic no company should ever pull the plug on any MMO because they are continuously being patched.

 
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Zenemulator...it's not just a slap job that makes "some" work..they do it for each which is why they work so well. I would rather have the quality over just a slap job.07/30/2014 - 5:48pm
ZenMatthew there is a difference between "worked" and "accurate". You play the Nintendo VC titles they play as damn close to the original as possible. The PSP would just run them as best they could, issues and all. And Masked...EACH VC title has their own07/30/2014 - 5:48pm
MaskedPixelanteOnce again, the 3DS already HAS a GBA emulator, it just can't run at the same time as the 3DS OS.07/30/2014 - 4:54pm
Matthew Wilsonyou cant street pass in ds mode ether, and if moders can make a gba emulator that runs very well on the psp as I understand it. you are telling me that Nintendo devs are not as good as moders?07/30/2014 - 4:49pm
Zenperformance. Halo 1 and 2 worked great because they actually did custom work on each of them...just like Nintendo does now lol07/30/2014 - 4:08pm
Zenexisting hardware while the GBA has to be emulated completely. Same reason the 360 couldn't run most Original Xbox games correctly, or had issues because they just did "blanket approach" for their emulation which led to game killing bugs or horrible07/30/2014 - 4:07pm
ZenSora/Matthew: It's not just Miiverse, but the whole idea of streetpass and things like that would be affected if the OS is not running. And just because a 3DS game can be downloaded and run does not mean that GBA can as easily. Those 3DS games use the07/30/2014 - 4:06pm
E. Zachary KnightSleaker, How is that different from every other credit card company targeting high school and college students?07/30/2014 - 1:40pm
Sleaker@EZK - I think some people are concerned beacuse it's a predatory technique targetted toward younger people that don't understand on top of offering the worst interest rates of any retailer around.07/30/2014 - 11:33am
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/07/30/europe-gets-long-detained-shin-megami-tensei-4-at-cut-price/ "Sorry you had to wait a year for SMT4, would a price cut make it sting less?"07/30/2014 - 10:29am
NeenekoI would hope not. Though it is not unheard of for store specific cards to be pretty good.07/30/2014 - 8:17am
E. Zachary KnightDoes anyone, or at least any intelligent person, expect a retail branded credit card to be anything close to resembling a "good deal" on interest rates?07/30/2014 - 7:13am
SleakerGamestop articles popping up everywhere about their ludicrous new Credit card offerings at a whopping pre-approval for 26.9% APR07/29/2014 - 10:19pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/podcasting-patent-troll-we-tried-to-drop-lawsuit-against-adam-carolla/ the podcasting patent troll scum is trying to turn tail and run.07/29/2014 - 9:50pm
MaskedPixelanteOf course it's improved. At launch, Origin was scanning your entire hard drive, but now it's just scanning your browsing history. If that's not an improvement, I dunno what is!07/29/2014 - 8:59pm
Papa Midnighthttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/12029-Has-EAs-Origin-Service-Improved-Any-Over-the-Last-Two-Years07/29/2014 - 8:25pm
Sora-ChanSo it's just a matter of having better emulation software. If it can be done with a 3DS game, with all the memory and what not it takes up, it can be done with a GBA title through emulation.07/29/2014 - 7:30pm
Sora-ChanOther VC titles for the NES and Gameboy had the same setup where you couldn't access the homescreen without quitting out of the game til a later update when those games were released for the public outside of the founder program.07/29/2014 - 7:28pm
Sora-Chanthe 3DS can, and does, run GBA games, as seen by the founder gifts, which included a number of GBA titles. As for running GBA games and still having access to the home screen, I beleive it's more of the game emulation software needs to be updated.07/29/2014 - 7:27pm
Matthew Wilsonthe 3ds already swaps os's with the original ds. plus I dont think people expect miverse interaction when playing a gba game.07/29/2014 - 6:06pm
 

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