Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German Authorities

May 14, 2009 -

Bomberman and Nazis - how often do you see those two in the same headline?

Negative Gamer reports that a former German politician, Martin Budich, has been arrested for allegedly invoking violence against Nazis via the well-known video game character.

Budich, who opposes the Nazi agenda (good for him), apparently took his fervor a bit too far by exhibiting the protest poster at left on a website. The image shows Bomberman holding a cake with a burning fuse serving as the candle. The text translates to “No cake walk for Nazis.”

According to Negative Gamer's interpretation of a Heise report, Budich's posting of the Bomberman graphic has been blamed by prosecutors for contributing to an "aggressive atmosphere" at an anti-Nazi demonstration in Bochum last October.

This wasn't Budich's first bust on such charges. He apparently has an earlier conviction in a similar case (sans video game characters).

Via: Destructoid


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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

....What?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

As much as I dont want to get myself involved in the Nazi debate, I would like to say that I feel sorry for Bomberman who seems to be involved in this even if he did not want to be invovled in any sort of political speech in the first place.

I think the real victim is Bomberman here.

TBoneTony

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Don't you mean Bomberman al Hussein? You need to get it right, or Homeland Security is going to think you're siding with Al Qaeda. Wouldn't want that, would we? 

Tim Buckley did a comic with that joke, but I can't find it.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Many neo-nazis today can be considered as pale shadow of their ancestors from WWII. I understand they can be dangerous if nobody opposes them, but I don´t think the can be blamed completly for the crimes of WWII nazis.

It´s horrible that this people is trying to deny crimes as the holocaust, but they are just a bunch of spineless morons with not a real opinion about anything. The same as people balming inmigrants or homosexuals for not any good reason.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Ways to avoid being called a Nazi #1: Don't follow Nazi ideology you f***ing idiots.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Nazis can dish out the punishment but can't take it?

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

Re: Bowser graphic is anti-itallian

Anti Nazi, eh?

Now, how many religions, races, etc. are Nazi's against?

Shorter answer: How many AREN'T they?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Some of these comments really bug me. Did the Third Reich do a bad thing? Of course. But how can we consider every person who fought on that side a Nazi? Can you honestly tell me everyone on the front lines fighting the Allies were doing it "For the master race"? This is the same thing that creeped me out with Zombie mode in the latest COD. As if we haven't dehumanized the average soldier enough.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

 Someone just watched "The Sound of Music".

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Actually, as far as I can tell, only one person mentioned the Master Race, and that was me, and I didn't mention soldiers in the slightest. I mentioned the fact that what is best for getting rid of Nazism is tolerance and understanding.

Do you disagree with that?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

And there was me thinking things like tolerance, understanding and a lack of belief in a 'superior race' was bad for Nazi's...

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Violence against Nazis is a bad thing?

After they obliterated my family tree, murdered my aunt (she was an infant at the time), stuck my grandparents into the camps and seperated them making them think that the other was dead only for them to find eachother after the war, torched my family home in Vilna, Poland and that was just against MY family.  Really, lets be serious.  There is no Nazi on the face of this PLANET that does not diserve only the worst kind of violence.

"Let us never be so tolerant that we tolerate intolerance."- Bill Maher

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Er...I'm a Libertarian...so by your logic I'm just as bad as some of the "freedom fighters" and "militiamen" that terrorize people, simply because I share some of the same political views or the same party affiliation as another?

Many Nazis were pretty mild in their views, or were forced into the party. Just like how there are "weak" and "strong" Democrats and Republicans, there were difinitely weak Nazis. Also, you could love the party immensely and still disagree with some of the "eugenic" aspects of the party. There are "ultra-Republicans" that bomb abortion clinics, and by your logic that makes all Republicans as deserving as those wackos.

The Nazi party (well, Hitler) brought Germany out of a depression, put Germany back onto the world scale, made Germany another world power. Sure, there were some downsides to the party, but many of these went relatively unnoticed and unchecked, because the German citizens were revived. If a leader came to power in the US in the face of a horrible depression and brought us out of it, I can understand why many Americans would turn a blind eye to anything that didn't concern them, and support the party that helped them in their time of need.

All the German citizens knew was that 1) Nazis and Hitler brought Germany out of a depression, 2) Some Jewish people started losing some rights and then disappearing altogether, and that 3) The nazis seem like a decent party, so why not join them?

You seem to think that all Nazis wanted to kill all of the jews, when in reality very few did. Many were just following orders, while others simply didn't care or couldn't do anything about it with such a large force in front of them.

Another way of looking at it is this: German soldiers that were sent to work at or guard the concentration camps could either do that, where they are safe, or be sent to the front lines to fight/die. They didn't necessarily want the jews to die, absolutely not, but it was either guard them or fight in a war. They were "nazis" but aren't the horrible people you seem to think that they are.

Neo-nazis of today that breed intolerance and promote violence are indeed horrible and deserve some pretty good beatings, but the Nazis of WWII must be inspected as individuals, not as a group like that. Neo-Nazis that simply speak as if certain people are inferior don't deserve the same treatment as those that actually promote violence, and should be viewed simply as "assholes."

Choose your words wisely...and I apologize for that wall of text.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

It is verry easy for people to follow someone who lead them out of depression.

I remember reading a book about a school group called "The Wave" and it was about this school teacher showing a film about the Nazis and WW2, many of his students asked why would hundereds and thousands of people kill other people just because of what one man said?

The class was full of students who were depressed and had troubled lives plus they were bored with school.

Then the teacher decided to make a group in their class that would get the students motivated, and the group was called 'The Wave'.

 

As the story turns out, the group became so well known that other people wanted to join and suddenly the whole school becomes an entire group called 'The Wave'

It gets out of hand when minority groups of people did not want to join and they got beaten up by the majority of people and then suddenly some people in class realized that they were just like Nazi Germany.

 

I can still remember reading that book 'The Wave' in my English class when I was in school

 

TBoneTony

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

There is a great German film production of that book from last year.

You should check it out, its probably available with English subs ("Die Welle" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1063669/)

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

How does this excuse the nazis? They couldn't exist if it weren't for the spineless masses. And if you wanted to know what was happening to the jews in the third reich you could. Most people choose not to know. This doesn't make them criminals, but they do share in the guilt. And btw, nobody was forced in the party. Some groups were forced into organisations (actors in the nazi actors guild, children in the Hitler youth, etc.) but nobody was forced in the party. This meant that only the extremists joined the party. There were spineless masses who just let it happen, but most of these weren't in the party. The NSDAP was full of people who wished for nothing less than the destruction of the jews.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

 The NSDAP had 7.5 million members at the end of the war. I think someone made a movie about one of those extremists years ago, something about a list of some sort.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

He's only saying you can't blame people for a title associated with them, only for what they did. You take for granted the knowledge we have about Nazi Germany today you assume every German citizen had all the information, yet when the Allies invaded Germany they were surprised when they found concentration camps, they were an unknown thing, rumored at best.

If they were hidden from the allies that were actively trying to invade (they would certainly be using spies and any other reconassinace methods available), is it that big a stretch that the majority of German citizens/soldiers didn't know what was going on?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Oh you so don't want to start this discussion. Allied command knew about concentration camps since 1942. At the same time, Die Weisse Rose, a group of german students, knew about the endlosüng. In 1944 the USA got hold of detailed information about Ausschwitz. And lets not forget about Enigma, the cracking of which secured even more information about the concentration camps. In fact, the english radio broadcasting over Germany spread this information to the Germans.

Furthermore, the nazis recognized information being leaked to the german public was a big problem. A lot of soldiers took photos of both concentration camps and the Ukranian mass executions home. Besides, concentration camps weren't a huge secret at the time, and if they were, the chimneys that smoked night and day would still prove something bad was happening (not to mention the smell).

Even before that, jews were marginalized and forced out of social life in such a way that German would never have to interact with them again. This made sure nobody protested when they were deported. I could tell you more (so much more) but you can google it yourself.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Welcome to the world. There will always be people who support beliefs/entities/leaders despite whatever horrors they committed. 

I lost some relatives to the actions of Joseph Stalin, who killed tons of people- and yet he is still a hero to many.  In college, I encountered plenty of leftists who look to him as some kind of superhero, and they aren't alone.  For Nazi fans to still exist in droves isn't too much farther of a stretch. 

Also, Europe has been and still is a hotbed of Anti-Semitism.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Europe? Yes because the entire continent has the same culture and ideas, amirite? Some countries are a hotbed of Anti-Semitism, but quite a lot of countries are not and have never been a hotbed of Anti-Semitism (Denmark, The Netherlands, etc.).

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

I like that quote. If everybody agrees to coexist despite differing views, than it's all good, but the second that one group starts trying to take out another, it's time to fight.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Do you imply that the people at those demonstrations are over 90 years old?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Do you imply descendents shouldn't be outraged at how the Nazis treated their families? And would treat their families again if they had the chance?

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

They can be outraged all they want, the people who did it are still dead or dying.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

So you're implying everyone calling themselves a Nazi is dead or dying?

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Are you implying, that the people at this demonstration call themselves Nazis? Because they don't. They're not that stupid.

What I am implying is, that everyone involved in the Holocaust is dead or dying, because that's fucking reality, whether you like it or not.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

I think Afirejar means that everyone who witnessed WWII and the Holocaust (Jewish, Nazi, American, and otherwise) are all old as shit, and will (in a few years/decades' time) die off.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

That's about the only point of his I'm not arguing about.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Glad to see you're disagreeing with me about not believing anything some random guy says on the internet without any evidence whatsoever. I'll keep that in mind.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

My names not 'random guy' so I'm not a random guy. Stands to reason.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Just be glad you don't get upgraded to "some random idiot, that constantly makes shit up for lack of anything intelligent to say". You're well on your way to that.

And I still maintain my point that attacking a party, that has plenty of real reasons for criticism and attacks, based on made up shit doesn't make them look like idiots.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

I awarded that to myself years ago. Keep trying. Besides, if that's not my name, then that's not what I am, remember? This is YOUR logic at work here.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

No, actually it isn't. It's part of the crap you made up so you wouldn't have to deal with the actual contents of my comments.

(In this case my point, that the people at this demonstration aren't responsible for the Holocaust and didn't kill anyone. Though I understand why you'd prefer to argue against stuff you made up in your head - not having existed at the time of the offense is a pretty good defense against any crime, you know, with time machines being fictional. You do know, that time machines are fictional, do you?)

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

So my Delorian doesn't work like it did in the movies? Ah crap. Another waste of money. I even had some plutonium ready.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

You can still use it to chase down altarbois and arrest them for their role in Middle Ages witch burning.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Did that last week. Although I just ran them over.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Stop messing with history!

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

If it looks like a turd, smells like a turd, tastes like a turd (don't ask) and, in fact, IS a turd, is it not a turd just because it's labelled itself differently?

And the people who died are dead, sure. But these Nazis (and THEY are Nazis, for all your dickery) would keep the 'glorious extermination of the jews' as something to aspire to once more. They were even using Third Reich slogans at the protest. (The Sizan's, not the anti-Nazis.)

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

But these Nazis (and THEY are Nazis, for all your dickery) would keep the 'glorious extermination of the jews' as something to aspire to once more.

[citation needed]

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Nice try at dickery, but this ain't wikipedia.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

If not believing every baseless claim made by some random guy on the internet makes someone a dick, then I'm OK with that.

In other news, the moon is made of green cheese. Some guy on the internet said so, so it must be true.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

[citation needed]

It's yellow. Everyone knows that.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

No, it's not.

By your logic, I am now correct, not you, because my claim is the one,that's complete baseless and without any evidence whatsover.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

However, I am also a hypocrite. You are still wrong.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Wow facisim is alive and well I see....

 


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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

The fashists never disappeared. They just kept their mouths shut and called themselves "democrats".

Those very same people who had supported the Nazis lived on mostly unharmed - most of them even were reinstated in their former functions as judges, teachers, scientists, policemen - without any problems.

Those very same judges, law experts and "scientists", who gave the Nazis the means to dispossess Jewish citizens and claim them to be an "inferior" race, mostly remained in place afterwards.

Even the federal police office (BKA) (comparable in some ways to the FBI) as well as the secret service were founded by former Nazis. Same story with our army.

These people formed the country and influenced it on many levels to this very day.

ZAR.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Same thing within the US.

People tend to forget that there was significant support within the US government for what Hitler was doing and some domestic eugenics programs had started up before the war.  Those that believed these things simply slipped back into mainstream politics (both parties).

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Antifashists have always been considered "left-wing terrorists" in this country.

Even those old communists who fought against the Nazis in the 1930-40s - people now in their 80s and 90s (!) are still considered a "threat" to this state because of their ideological believes.

ZAR.

 

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

So, the German government, despite their best attempts to whitewash Nazis from their history, have a hissy fit over someone who ALSO hates Nazis...

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