New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk Food

May 14, 2009 -

A bill currently before the New York Assembly would add a one-quarter of one percent tax to the sale or rental of video games and video game hardware.

The measure, A02455, was proposed by Assemblyman Felix Ortiz (D, at left) of Brooklyn. The bill would also tax the sale and rental of movies, admissions to movie theaters and the sale of snack foods and sweet drinks. In addition, corporations would be barred from taking a New York tax deduction for expenses incurred in advertising any of the affected items, including video games and systems.

The proposal is currently before the Assembly's Ways and Means Committee, where it seems likely to remain. This is Ortiz's fourth attempt at similiar legislation since 2003; none have made it out of committee.

Ortiz's proposal is motivated by his desire to address the current obesity epidemic. In the justification for A02455 he writes:

Almost all experts agree that the primary reasons [for the obesity epidemic] are increased consumption of larger quantities of high calorie foods, snacks and sugar sweetened beverages... and lack of physical activity as vigorous play is replaced by sedentary activities such as watching more television, movies and videos and playing video games.

This bill would raise revenues from modest surcharges on the very food products and sedentary activities that are linked to the lifestyle changes involved in the explosion of childhood obesity in the last 20-30 years.

Ortiz estimates that his bill would raise $50 million in revenue which would in turn be used to fund programs designed to counter childhood obesity. Conservative magazine The American Spectator refers to Ortiz as "perhaps the nation’s most prolific author of vice taxes:"

[Ortiz] has a litany of bills before the New York state legislature imposing a $10 tax on visitors to strip clubs, a 25¢-cent tax on bottles of beer and wine, and a fatso tax on soda, sweets, and video games.


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Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

I think it is a GREAT IDEA!!!!!  That is what I have been thinking forever! 

Someone said that healthy foods cost more = soooo not true.  Canned foods are actually better for you than fresh because vitamins and minerals are locked in and the low sodium called veggies are the SAME price I get mine for 33 cents a can at walmart.  Oatmeal for breakfast ends up being 8 cents a cup come on now!!!!  Oranges 33 cents cheaper than a candy bar. 

Fat people are fat because they want to be and if they had to pay more for it maybe they would eat less of it.  Even just eating less of unhealthy foods will combat obesity. 

Once you lose 10 pounds you now need 100 calories less food a day.  Fat people need more food than thin people to maintain their fat status if this caused them to eat less or eat healthier then they would need less food - hence saving even more money.  We have an obesity epidemic because everyone is lazy and eating unhealthy this would be the front of a health epidemic where it would be cost effective and tempting to do the right thing go outside and play instead of watch that DVD and eat oranges versus candy bar.


GREAT IDEA should be for the entire america!

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

okay I will give ya credit so I went to my local walmart

8 hot dogs $.88

8 buns $ .99

cheapest chips they had in a bag sized for family $ 1.99

total $3.86

one bag of regular oranges $3.99

(guess that poor family can have a bag of oranges for dinner tonight)

low sodium canned greenbeans .79 (14.5 oz can)

fresh greenbeans 2.49 a pound ( 16oz)

 

fatty ground beef $2.69/pound

boneless skinnless chicken breasts $5.39/pound

 

no way in the world eatting healty fresh fruits, veggies and lean cut meats are cheaper for a low income family!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not talking about the people who can afford stock plies of chips and dip and sodas to have on hand to "snack" on I'm talking real hard facts about trying to make a meal to feed a family of 4 ya know the 37 million people who live below the poverty level in america (there are alot more now -that number is based on the 2004 US Census)

 not that I side with the bill at all, but dont jsut blame it on games, movies, and whatnot

kid goes to school sits for 8 hours, they take PE out now if the child is having trouble in a class (they call it credit recovery) they eat chicken nuggets, french fries, and canned corn for lunch, come home and have meatloaf and canned greenbeans for dinner no snack no nothing and do homework and chores, parents force them to go outside and "play" for the final hour of daylight (yea get a teenager to do this) no video games, no watching tv or movies no talking on the phone half the night-------they are gonna get fat!!!!!!!!!! 

 

so whos fault is it their parents???? for being poor

the school for taking out PE????

the community for not having parks in all neighborhoods?????

how about a mix of everything!!!!!!!!!!!!

playing games, watching movies, reading a book are not the only reasons people get fat!!!!!

but add that to poor eatting habits (whatever the reason) and no activity does

make fresh foods and lean cuts cost less than processed foods

make movies, games, cigarettes, beer and junk foods cost more

and we will see a decrease in the obese rate in america

btw the percentage for obese people is higher in low income homes than in middle income homes

 

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Can't tell if your being serious or not. So Im gonna disect your post.

"Fat people are fat because they want to be and if they had to pay more for it maybe they would eat less of it." I already pulled information up about the three body type. A decent percentage of "fat people" are called endomorphes, their body type has a slower metabolism. Slow metabolism makes it harder to break down fats and other parts of food.

 

"Once you lose 10 pounds you now need 100 calories less food a day." Agian not true, I'm 5'11 weight 105 I eat about 7500 calories a day. They only thing that has ever helped me gain weight was a supplment prescribed to me to decrease my metabolism rate of nearly 4x the normal. Problem is those suppliments have very risky side effects (In my case was Niacin a very high concentration of vitamin B) Side effects include: Acute liver failure, Niacin flush, Elevated blood sugar, Cardiac arrhythmia. So bad idea to be on them for long. Long story summed up here everyone's metabolism rate is diffrent.

 

Oh and the "Health food" in a can you mentioned. Not many "health buffs" agree that canned anything is good for you. Evryone's body type is diffrent what keeps you healthly may kill one of the people who come to this board.

Let me put that on my to-don't list.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

The one thing I haven't seen addressed is that most people who are obese are of a lower level income

when a pack of hotdogs, their buns, and chips costs less than a bag of oranges

fatty hamburger meat costs less by the pound than boneless skinless chicken

and processed canned goods high in salt cost a fraction of fresh veggies

what can we expect to happen to the ones who can only afford the high procesed fatty unhealthy food to feed their family for dinners

why not tax all the processed foods that are "bad for u"  then they will eat less and have even more health problems for their medicaid to pay for  aka the taxpayer

we all pay in the end peroid

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

I call bullshit on "fat taxes" Here's a funny thing about the BMI or Body Mass Index was invented by Adolphe Quetelet a Belgian mathematician and sociologist. He did this as a way to compare a person’s height with their weight. This technique was originally meant to aid in social science education, and wasn’t intended to determine obesity levels. BMI was not meant for medical diagnosis. So how can we use it to see if people are obese? If we’re analyzing a specific individual, we can’t! Thats right boys and girls we can't.

But the "healthy weight" was derived from this the "Healthy" or "Average weight" is based on literally the average weight and height of the people who was measure in the BMI.

The BMI was meant to COMPARE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT! Yes Thats right, it was never meant to tell if someone is obese or not. But rather to tell if there was a coralation between  someone's height and weight, and the thruth is, there was no correlation.

So let's compare muscle and fat, muscle weighs nearly 4 times more that fat, so a BMI label for someone with no fat but a lot of muscle will be obese. There are three body types you can have the luck of the draw and have a Mesomorph body type (person easily builds muscle) The Ectomorph (Tall and skinny) and the Endomorph (the 'pudgy" person)

Suddenly when the world has this weight fasination we're all suddenly "Fat" or "skinny" or "perfect." Marilyn Monreo wore a size 14 dres size and she is STILL to this day considered a sex symbol according to the BMI she is a very obese woman.

Remember boys and girls weight itself is not an indaction of health.

 

Sources http://www.intense-workout.com/body_types.html For the body type names.

http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/02/08/the-skinny-on-the-body-mass-index-bmi/ for the origins on the BMI

Let me put that on my to-don't list.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

I find it ironic that liberals bristle so much when they are described as "socialists." They laugh and claim either not to be socialists(while at the same time they call for the government to run private industry and to "spread out the wealth," which is socialism) or they imply that the Cold War was just a bunch of American propaganda, even though over 100 million people died in communist countries as the governments worked toward "the common good," which included purging the population of those who refused to become marxist communist socialists.

When Bush was in office, liberals could not stop saying the word, "fascist," even though they did not know what it meant(it means a strong central government that takes control of every area of society, usually using nationalistic or racist rhetoric to justify it's agenda).

If Bush and conservatives can be called "fascists," then Obama and liberals can be called "socialists;" it is up to both sides to furnish evidence for the charges. In the case of Obama, taking over 19 banks, three auto manufacturers, taking over the health care system, and suggesting to raise a "domestic security force" of 250,000 (and hiding it in the Americorps program), the evidence is abundant to charge him with socialism. Obama even bragged in his autobiography that his friends in college were marxists and that he liked to read Franz Fanon, a marxist author.

American liberals are socialists; why are they ashamed of that word? If one wants to take what someone has worked for by force and give it to someone else, that is socialism. Liberals do not want to create more private sector jobs, as they believe that those jobs will destroy the environment, create too much wealth for the poor and enable them to function without government "assistance"(really, control), and put power in the hands of individuals to exercise individual liberty that liberals believe is reserved for the state alone. That is socialism.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

There are several types of liberals, the far-left ones, that are the most pro-socialist, the Progressive liberals (which I identify with mostly) and the Centrists which do not follow socialist ideas strongly. We cannot pigeonhole every liberal as being pro-socialist, just like we can't pigeonhole every conservative as being a Fox news-Koolaid guzzling censor freak.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

In new york times:

"Video game publishers have withdrawn all product offerings from new york brick and mortar shops. When asked why, the publishers responded: 'Our profit margins are already higher when we sell games online. Why should we even bother paying for space on store shelves?'

Gamers were relieved to find that without obnoxious local taxes, all media prices have dropped by 15%."

Soda I can understand. Starches too. However, giving Best Buy and other brick and mortar electronic media retailers the shaft is not best practice if you want to bring in tax revenue.

 

I will not buy securom games. http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message1.jpg and http://www.wolvenmoon.com/sharedfiles/message2.jpg

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

I guess the realistic solution would be force students to take cooking classes ( No more of those because the department of education had its funding sliced), and forcing businesses to use less oils in the foods they cook.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

This is about money. Not curbing America's obesity problem.

 

Let's tax weapons manufacturers. Our military is so huge that most Americans just sit on their lazy butts while the army does all the dirty work. The army is making America fat. If we just add a 25 cent tax to weapons manufacturers and force them to give 10% of every quarter taxed to programs that combat obesity we can reduce the size of our military and our guts at the same time.

 

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

So to sum up

Lazy-Boy recliner = Not taxed

DDR Pad = Taxed

Yeah... this makes sense.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

this is a stupid idea, how about we have a tax on being obese unless you can prove a true disorder.

If you are fat, 99 percent chance its your own fault.  if kids are fat its probably their parents fault. 

Making everybody pay for some people's lifestyle choices is stupid.  the best solution would be to forcefully stick obese kids in their schools cross country team.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Insurance and healthcare should be non profit, make money off advances and being frist not nickleing and diming the sick and poor.

 


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Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Anybody else see the irony of adding a 'fat' tax to, say, buying a copy of Wii Fit?

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

this sorta thing props up and then the politicians wonder why the militia's are all on high alert and ammo is being sold by the crate, guns by the dozen, and yet so few targets are being sold off at the same time.

 

NY is in for one hell of an awakening pretty soon if these guys and gals keep this up, and worse so if patterson actually approves any of it.

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

"Almost all experts agree that the primary reasons [for the obesity epidemic] are personal choices"

There, fixed that for you.

Re: NY Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, breathing

I think there should be a tax for being a politician. They don't do anything, it's one of the leading causes of obesity.

I would say they use their brains for work, but now, that theory is in question...

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

Looks like a serious case of "Taliban" to me!

Next will be a special tax on blondes, people with glasses, people with too much hair on their body, left-handed people, short people and - of course - women.

It's called "discrimination" by the way - especially if it's supposed to be "for your own good". And especially if it's only used to invent another tax for the quick buck.

Oh, and the last state that wanted to force its people to be "perfect specimen", who don't drink, smoke, in perfect physical condition and healthy - no matter the cost - was called "Nazi Germany".

ZAR.

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

If this was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, bravo!

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

> If this was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, bravo!

*grin*

ZAR.

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

 Good lord man, if you want people to take you seriously you can't go and Godwin your argument.

Your first 2 sentences by themselves were sufficiently ignorant and hyperbolic to make you look like a raving lunatic but you really pushed it over the edge with that one.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Dude, irony and satire do not require smileys, signs and tags for *most* people to work.

But, obviously, you are not among them.

And using "Godwin" all by itself as some sort of an "argument" means clearly, who the ignorant actually is.

I bet you couldn't even name the TITLE of any book by that man - including the fact that you haven't actually read anything from him.

ZAR.

 

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

It does not look like you understand the terminology. To "Godwin" an argument is simply to fulfill what Godwin's Law states by adding in a comparison to Hitler and/or the Nazis.

BTW, we're not among those dumbasses who think that Godwin'ing an argument ends the argument right there with the one who Godwin'ed the argument as the loser. We know that Godwin's Law does not state that he/she who compares something to Hilter and/or the Nazis automatically loses the argument, but rather that such a comparison becomes more likely as the argument progresses.

Then again, if you did understand the terminology, then all I have to say is that you need to make it more obvious.

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Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

This tax idea could drive people to oppose it period

NOTE: while I was typing this Fox news came out opposed to all Fat taxes

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

I think everyone who thinks this bill is a good idea (or nanny-states in general) need to see the movie Demolition Man.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

I have seen Demolition Man, if it is about the bill for everytime you spitted out obscenities, I see where you're getting at.

What we got here is failure to communicate!

What we got here is failure to communicate!

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

I don't really see this as a deterrent. All I see is them adding a tax to profit off of, what they believe to be, other peoples 'bad habits'. Ridiculous, give me a tax on breathing next, remember to breath with your stomach, more efficient that way, cause they'll be charging you for each breath no matter how much oxygen gets to your brain.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

Laws like this are completely asinine and just another attempt at a tax grab.  If you are overweight, it is not because of video games, movies or whatever.  It is because you choose to eat crap and not exercise, period.  You can have never touched a game or looked at a TV in your entire life and still eat badly and not work out.  No one forces you to eat the bad food, you choose to and taxing these things will not stop those who enjoy them from consuming them, nor will it encourage them to live their lives differently.  Western society has completely eliminated the notion of personal choice and personal responsibility.  Every problem we have has to be someone or something else's fault.  People as a whole need to grow up and manage their own lives, not expect government to do it and then whine when they don't like the results.

I am about 50lbs overweight because for years, I chose to live a sedintary lifestyle.  However, I recently decided to take charge of the situation and am now eating better and going for 45 minute walks every night.  I'm starting to lose weight.  But I still play a lot of games, watch a lot of movies and sometimes still eat pizza or MacDonald's.  But under this law, I would still be significantly taxed on these things that are supposedly "making me fat", even though I'm takin steps to not be so.  How is that fair?

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
blog.digital-lifeline.ca

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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 "significantly taxed"

a .25% tax... snack foods will be literally only pennies more expensive and the increase in video games could be measured in nickels... that doesn't sound very significant to me

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Come on, you know they'll raise it, it might start at .25% but it won't be long until they'll decide it needs to be raise another quarter percent and then another and another. Just like what has been done with alcohol and cigarette taxes since they've been implemented.

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The percentage doesn't matter to me.  Additional taxation for this reason is wrong, whatever the rate is.

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
blog.digital-lifeline.ca

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

The last time I checked we are still feeding, low quality, highly processed foods to our children en masse in the schools for lunch and we tell them candy is bad?  Most foods labeled as "healthy" are still loaded with the very things you should not be eating.  As I have learned labeling a food as healthy or low fat does not always mean it is genuinely healthy.  We will not get anywhere with curbing obesity unless a complete overhaul to the system is done.  You cannot tell children candy is bad and then serve them grilled cheese and fries for lunch, because that is extremely hypocritial.  We tell children to eat their fruits and vegetables but then they are served fried chicken nuggets and french fries at school. Taxing people on these items is not the solution, people will still buy whatever they want to they will just be paying more for it, and they will pay.  A new tax on these things won't curb demand for them.

NY doesn't even have that high of a percentage of overweight people compared to other states, and there are a large amount of perfectly normal people who still enjoy seeing a movie or playing a video game.  It is unfair to tax these people on an activity they enjoy doing occasionally.  Playing a game or seeing a movie are not activities that only super-morbidly-obese people do and most people do not play games and watch movies 24/7 either.  If you tax electronic media you must tax books as well since sitting down and reading a book is the same as sitting and playing a video game or sitting and watching a movie or TV.  How about taxing a company that makes workers sit behind a desk for 9-12 hours a day for contributing to obesity?

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Heck, even the fruits and veggies they serve kids in schools aren't the best.  Many of the fruit cups or chunks that are served in schools come from cans and have been sitting in syrups and sugars to help preserve them.  Iceberg lettuce is still the most prolific used in schools (and restaraunts), and compared to other lettuces, it's not the best for you.  10 calories stemming mostly from sugars for each serving of iceberg compared to the more common 1-3 calories found in the servings of romane, green leaf, and red leaf lettuce.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

I'm surprised they haven't imposed a tax on your taxes yet...


Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

How about a skinny tax on gyms and health food stores?

How about a waste tax on public restrooms?

How about an air tax for everyone or everything that breathes?

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

ontario in canada does that. There's a federal tax, and a provincial tax. the provincial tax is a tax on the whole of the purchase, plus the federal tax.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

No that's Quebec. Ontario raises every other tax like property tax for example

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

Umm, no it isn't.  I run a small business and am in charge of managing the accounting and the processing and remittance of provincial task and that statement is 100% false.  The PST is charged on the subtotal of your invoice before the GST, not after.  You're either reading your receipt wrong or the store that's doing that is crooked.  I'm not saying there's no "tax on tax" situation in Canada because there is in places but not at the cash register level in Ontario.

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
blog.digital-lifeline.ca

Parallax Abstraction
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

my bad, see kevz reply. I had my provinces confused. Been a few years since i was in retail (and i dont live in either ont or que)

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

Why not add the tax to books too, people are pretty lazy when theyr'e reading those things too.

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Wait, people still read books? 

ya like we really need people in this country to become even more illiterate

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You don't have any idea what socialism is, do you?

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Don't know who you are talking to, but this bill exudes a very big part of the Socialist paradigm- the government protecting the people from themselves and taking charge.  Welcome to the future.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

Taxes =/= socialism. Taxes used to fund education programs =/= socialism.

It's hilarious how everyone's latching onto this word lately. It's got that great Cold War vibe to it. Anything to make the ignorant masses a little more scared!

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

No this doesn't reek of socialism, it reeks of Nanny State.

Let me put that on my to-don't list.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

As if movies are not expensive enough. I mean whats another $1 or $2 to a movie ticket that costs $10, or another $1 or $2 to the cost of a $20 DVD. Matter of fact why don't I just give them all my money and they can tell me how much I should have and how I can spend it.

There is a reason why half the movies in my collection are bought 2nd hand from the local movie rental place, and I take dates to the budget movie theater if I think I can get away with it. Its because I have tons of money to pay the already heavy price on these things.

Thank God I dont live in NY.

~Weatherlight~

~Weatherlight~

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, ...

a one quarter of a percent tax on a 10 dollar movie ticket would raise the cost 2.5 cents, but that's not the point.

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Do you think that the movie company would leave their prices the same and eat the additional cost of the tax? Its going to cost the consumer anywhere from 5 to 100 times more then just the cost of the tax. because you are not going to pay $10.03, you are going to pay $10.25 or $10.50 at least.

To me this is the worst kind of tax, because it is a "Gateway Tax". The thought is "If people are willing to pay the extra 5 cents, then why don't we make it 10 cents", then you will start measuring in dollars. Its just an all around bad idea that will cost people lots of money.

~Weatherlight~

~Weatherlight~

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 Are you quite aware as to how taxes work? If I buy a game and the area I'm in has, say, a 7% sales tax, they don't just randomly up that percent to 10% for laughs. Your reasoning for not just paying 3 cents more is laughable.

From what I can tell, you seem to think that when someone sells something it must come out to some kind of nice round number. Guess what, this tax will have absolutely no effect on the base price at all. It's just another tax that gets added on at the end. So when you buy that 10$ movie ticket, instead of paying $10.73 or whatever it would be, you'll pay $10.76.

I can't believe I had to explain this to you. You are pretty damn paranoid.

Re: New York Bill Would Add Fat Tax to Video Games, DVDs, Junk

Stop telling us what to eat and what to do with our free time. Not everyone is equal unlike you communist false liberals. Real liberals let people make decisions on their own, not let people who have no idea who I am tell me what to drink and what to play.

What if i'm highly active? Your taxing "candy bars" that might be energy sports bars for me that provide high calorie content in a compact package. What about Gaterade or stuff like that? I need something with more sodium content then plain water.

Maybe this bill will pass because Obama's public health care system puts the responsibility of your health in the hands of government, so they can use that as an excuse to tax the Americian citizens out of things they deem "unhealthy" because it costs them money. One of the many reasons why I prefer a privitized health care system over a public one, because it no longer becomes a back door for governments to get their grubby little hands over you.

 
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MechaCrashThey aren't being held accountable because *this is what GamerGate is really about.* Hatred and harassment under a thin veneer of concern for ethics; it's a rotten movement right down to the core. Related: http://tinyurl.com/o5mamgn10/21/2014 - 1:53am
james_fudgeodd why would they delete pro vita comments?10/21/2014 - 12:50am
Neo_DrKefkaI am a little disturbed that members of #GamerGate are supporting and not holding its same members accountable when they say remarks that are unacceptable!10/20/2014 - 11:39pm
Neo_DrKefkaSome #GamerGate people are defending @kingofpol many are however lashing out at him but if we held Sam Biddle accountable and Gawker so must we hold @kingofpol and #GamerGate10/20/2014 - 11:30pm
Neo_DrKefkaA big name in the Gamergate movement Kingofpol uses a offensive term about autistic people and in turn the entire GamerGate community lashes out at him. We do not need false leaders who think they can say anything https://twitter.com/Kingofpol10/20/2014 - 11:07pm
Papa MidnightMP, honestly, I'm struggling to make heads or tales of the events being outlined in that reddit thread. I've never heard of Siliconera before, either.10/20/2014 - 10:48pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/2jbn6u/former_siliconera_moderator_leaks_screenshots_of/ Siliconera mods accused of deleting user comments that were pro Vita.10/20/2014 - 9:23pm
quiknkoldhttp://www.diamondbackonline.com/opinion/article_3fbc52ec-57eb-11e4-ba91-0017a43b2370.html10/20/2014 - 9:16pm
Neo_DrKefkaId love to see people come 2gether whether your 4 or against gamergate to gather 2gether and support an anti bullying charity and I would love to see a pro and anti gamegate debate on a neutral platform that promotes discussion and solutions10/20/2014 - 8:33pm
Neo_DrKefkaWhen someone was seriously hurt by a violent altercation. They have a prospective that people who have not had this experience lack. Bullying is a serious issue10/20/2014 - 8:30pm
Papa MidnightStraw Man to the fullest, but it gets the point across.10/20/2014 - 8:26pm
Papa Midnighthttp://i.imgur.com/dw0YPon.png10/20/2014 - 8:25pm
quiknkoldby doing something, Charitable Donations is an example.10/20/2014 - 8:06pm
 

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