Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

June 2, 2009 -

A few months back there was a minor uproar surrounding "Islam is the light," a phrase which some people thought they heard uttered by both a talking baby doll and a children's DS game.

In a video posted late last week on YouTube, a man claims that a character in Nintendo's recently-released Wii title Punch-Out!! shouts "Allah Akbar," an Arabic phrase which translates to "God is great."

RevolutionOfCG, who describes himself as a conservative pundit in his YouTube profile, posted the clip of fighter Bald Bull and equates the character's supposed utterance of the phrase with terrorism:

Allah Akbar or God Is Great. For those of you that don't understand the implications of this. Let me put it to you this way. Virtually Every Muslim Terrorist has said this before they blew themselves up or in the case of 9-11, before they slammed into buildings...

Hailing from Istanbul Turkey, if we are to understand the implications of culture, Bald Bull is more than likely a Muslim...

 

Not even 8 years after 9-11 and are we going to accept this phrase in a video game Rated E for Everyone. What do the families of these heinous crimes think of this? Someone out there has to be appalled, I'm certain of that.

The narration of the video includes 9/11 footage of the second plane striking the World Trade Center. As to the phrase Allah Akbar, its Wikipedia page lists a variety of uses other than by terrorists:

This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, during battles, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria. It is also used by bombers or suicide bombers before they detonate.

The phrase is said during each stage of both obligatory prayers, which are supposed to be performed five times a day, and supererogatory prayers, which are performed at will...

That's, of course, assuming that Bald Bull actually says Allah Akbar, which is unconfirmed at this point.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Here is his video which he apparently altered at the beginning because people were questioning his "translation" skills. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9C7jQcGl0c

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

3 pieces of evidence suggest he has been royally made to look a fool.

1. Ratings are now disabled.

2. Comments have now been disabled.

3. His last reply to a comment pointing out how wrong he is was "I don't care much about it,anymore. But that 'Islam is the light' doll is pretty freaky, you have to admit that."

 

Call it what it is, self-important conservative dickhead who tried to grab some publicity but hasn't got the balls to stand firm in the face of criticism, and rather than admit being wrong after being proven wrong just says "I don't care."

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

He also deleted a bucket-load of comments...granted, I could perhaps have been a bit more diplomatic in pointing out the whole Instanbul/Istanbul thing...

At least my refutation of that idiot "Moon God" crap got left in.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

 What i think is extra pathetic is that he deleted what sounded like a plausible argument to what else he might have been saying... I forget what the arabic was, but i think the explaination was that when he hits he says "take that" and when he misses he says "What a waste"... when those two terms are said back to back in arabic you get something that just happens to sound like "Allah Akbar"... it was definitely a comment that should have either been excepted as a possible interpretation, or if incorrect, should have been refuted...

the fact that he would delete the comment instead of doing either of those shows just what kind of guy he is (as if there was any doubt)

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

What the others before me said. I listened to the video, and he says something like "A-ragh" or "Al-la" when striking, and something "Aghbeh" when he misses. Sounds like random grunts to me.

Also, "God is Great" is a general phrase. What, are you going to forbid the phrase "He loves you" next, because the Skrulls said it during their secret invasion?

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

 Oh ban "I want to hold your hand" because the Beatles said it during the British Invasion?

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

So, is the audio for the Wii Punch Out! from the original 20 year old game or is it reworked?

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Uh If memory doesn't fail me Bald Bull is from Istanbul Turkey and their official language is Turkish, they don't speak arabic. I wonder if this turd has ever used more than three brain cells? I might also add that most of the are Sunnis but they are not extremists.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Nobody better point out that Muhammad Ali changed his name to that of Islams main prophet.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Over 5 minutes for a 3 second sound clip?  This guy likes to hear himself talk.

And I don't think he's saying akbar.  There is clearly no "r" pronounced.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I understand that the 9/11 attackers frequently consumed hummus, tabuleh, and pita bread. If you love the United States and respect the lives sacrificed on 9/11, you won't eat these foreign, un-American, terrorist foods.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I certainly didn't realize that a Video Game Character who comes from a Predominantly muslim country could POSSIBLY EVER say a phrase that is as common in the Muslim World as "God Bless" is in America.

Really, these fearmongering morons should spend thier time focused on things other than trying to convince us that every Muslim ever is evil, and that any muslim phrases are CLEARLY terrorism in action.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Then here's something that will blow your mind: a fictional zombie outbreak in Africa will lead to predominately black zombies.  Shocking, I know.

But I agree, why the hell is this even being mentioned since it doesn't strike me as being all that important or even worthwhile.  It sounds like someone needs a tinfoil hat.

Though I have to admit that the moron that shot up that Army recruiting center a couple of days ago is not doing the Muslim faith any favors.  Unfortunately, perspective is reality for many people and this will be reinforced if it is not publicly condemned.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

"That's, of course, assuming that Bald Bull actually says Allah Akbar, which is unconfirmed at this point."

I've played and beat the game.  I don't hear it.  Check out the 30 second mark of this Youtube video.  Bald Bull says something like "Allah" or "Allahn" when he punches.  When he misses he occasionally utters something that sounds similar to "Akbar" or "Akmahn" but the two words seem unrelated.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

There's a reply in comments in the link you posted that offers anoter translation to the phrases (not sure if it's real or not since I don't know the language).

Also, a search for RevolutionOfCG on YouTube produces some interesting other videos as well as a number of counter videos to his various other comments.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Why don't these people ever shut up?  Your nonsensical whining makes me ill.

 

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

OK, no more censorship because someone might be offended. I recommend we drop copies of Hanuman all over India, and uncensored, bomb versions of Fallout 3 over Japan.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

To Youtube, gentlemen! To Youtube, to mock!

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Hee hee. He believes in the "gay mafia"

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I love Robin Williams! "The mauve hand! Fairy Godfather, 'Does this pistol make my ass look big'?"

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Gay Mafia? That's fucking awesome...

Brilliant people...brilliant people...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

 The Gay Mafia is who you'll be doing repetitive boring missions for in the next chapter of GTA IV. (between going bowling with your cousin of course)

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

The GodMother:  When he comes in to the hair dresser's for a makeover, you make him over!

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

He also disabled new comments on the video in question.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Almost 8 years after 9/11 and some idiots still think that all Muslims are terrorists.

I certainly am appalled.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Just because some idiots believe that all Muslims are terrorists, do not believe that there are no more Muslim terrorists.  People will continue to put Islam down until Muslims openly denounce terrorism and actually help to destroy it, instead of claiming that the United States is looking to destroy Islam.  I know that a very small percentage of Muslims are terrorists, but I also know that the Islamic people are unwilling to prove that by taking out terrorism.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

"People will continue to put Islam down until Muslims openly denounce terrorism and actually help to destroy it"

Newsflash: You can't "destroy" terror. It's an emotion. People will always be afraid of things out of their control, and the people who terrorize them will continue to do so for an infinite number of reasons. That's one of the things about heinous acts of violence: they're scary.

"I also know that the Islamic people are unwilling to prove that by taking out terrorism."

You clearly don't know much of anything.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

And I thought for SURE it was going to be about Great Tiger.

Any excuse to overreact to a f***ing VIDEOGAME, I guess.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

 I'm offended when people say "praise Jesus" because that's what the guy who killed Tillman said before he shot him.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Check out the same poster's comments on that. "I know he wasn't a Christian, because I know that's not what Christianity is.."

Oy.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I'm beginning to suspect that thefremen and Dr. Kefka bear something in common.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

 Yes, I am also a character from Final Fantasy 6.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Thanks for that much needed clarification. I was thinking that you were just an unqualified character.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

You mean like Generic Villager #7? I hate that dick.

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

From where do you come up with this stuff? Do you have a pair of Mr. Miyagi Chopsticks with which you also pluck flies out of mid-air?

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Did anybody else notice the Gansden flag on the wall in the background?

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Even in the case that he *does* utter that phrase (personally, I don't really hear it there), as has been stated before, it's a phrase with multiple meanings and uses.  If, for whatever reason, you find that offensive...

Oh look, you get to beat the shit out of him.  Have fun being a prejudiced bigot.

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I love how he adresses that by going "Well, you're right to say it's used in many ways, but LOOK, 9/11!"

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

So wait, God isn't great?

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

win

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Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

*Face palm*  And yes, I don't care if anyone yells at me for face palming, this situation deserves it.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Ignoring the fact that it doesn't sound like that phrase, what's wrong with saying... nah... I'll just ignore it entirely. But I'm commenting... so I'm not ignoring. DAMN YOU! I'M APPALLED!

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

Has anyone ever said they were "appalled" by something, and ever be right in saying so?


Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

If the 9-11 terrorists had said "spaghetti" before crashing the planes, would this guy suggest we abstain from using that word?

Madness.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I think one of them did. Or some pasta word, at least.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

I for one am appalled.

Our grandfathers and great grandfathers fought in WWII and were often faced with suicide charges by Japanese soldiers, during which their battle cry would include the word Banzai.

Now that word represents an 80's cult movie, a Japanese game show spoof, a character in the Disney movie "The Lion King", and a deal-maker on Zazzle.

Appalled I say, that words can have multiple meanings, that language can be used to signify different things, and that the world can be so utterly confusing.

I need to take a nap.

--- Moderation in all things, including moderation.

--- Moderation in all things, including moderation.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

So if the character shouted "Praise Jesus" it would be ok? At least until a bunch of Christian terrorists go and blow themselves up saying "Praise Jesus" beforehand, at which point it would be indicative of terrorism in a video game?

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

No. Because remember, REAL Christians don't COMMIT terrorism. REAL Christians are the ones saying after a guy blows a whole in an abortion doctor in his own church that the guy who fired the gun wasn't REALLY one of them.

Re: Does Punch-Out!! Character Shout Islamic Phrase?

REAL muslims don't blow shit up either. Violence is actually discouraged in the Quaran. The reality of it is that we are making a big deal about this, even though Christians happen to perform terrorist acts as well.

The Knoxville Shooting and The Abortion Murder were both acts that intended to inspire terror amongst the people who happen to disagree with them. Terrorist acts. Yet, we don't see anyone freaking out when a Christian Character in a game says "God Bless" or something similar, when, in many cases, Christians have murdered or blown something up in the name of God, as well. There is a double standard here, and by freaking out at anything Muslim, we are just making fools of ourselves.

 
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