Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate at SGC 09

June 30, 2009 -

It appears that a much-anticipated Independence Day debate between Jack Thompson and gamer/lawyer Mark Methenitis is off. (GP: however, see updates below)

Back in April Mark Methenitis announced that he would debate Thompson on July 4th at the ScrewAttack Gaming Convention in Dallas. In fact, Methenitis posted a reminder about the debate just yesterday on his excellent Law of the Game blog.

But an angry e-mail received a short time ago from Thompson indicates that he will not appear. The disbarred attorney was apparently upset by an event organizer's request for a two-line bio as well as a parody video (screen shot at left) posted on the Screw Attack website by a user. Here's a just-received e-mail from Thompson to Methenitis:

Mark, the goofs at ScrewAttack have managed to sabotage my debate with you this Saturday... Don't blame me.  I wanted to do  the debate. I would have used the $2000 to help me in bringing down The Florida Bar...

Here's a second e-mail from Thompson to a number of individuals at ScrewAttack:

Yesterday, I get an email... that I either I submit a "1 or 2 sentence" introduction of myself, or I won't be introduced.  I have spoken and debated on more than 200 college campuses, and I have never been introduced with 1 or 2 sentences.  Nobody can be introduced in that fashion...
 
Finally, I went to your site this morning and I have viewed [a since removed] idiotic [video] clip...  It is a gross misrepresentation... you know full well that the reason I wanted to do this event... [is] to debate the issues of violence in video games... 
 
Finally, how many references to me as a "butt" did you think you had to put into your adolescent video?  You even take a swipe at Christians in the video...
 
All you have managed to do, as related above, is make the event an impossibility.  I expected the event to feature some hostiility [sic]. What I did not expect was that the people putting it on would ratchet it up and in doing so create a security problem...

GamePolitics has a request in to Screw Attack for more information and to see whether, from their perspective, the debate and a planned open forum with Thompson are salvageable. Methenitis is hoping that the event will go forward but referred us to Screw Attack for specifics.

GP: If the SGC 09 debate is canceled, it will not the first time that a proposed debate involving Thompson and the video game crowd has ended in bitterness. See our coverage of similar events proposed for PAX 07 and GDC 08. Thompson did, however, complete a debate with game designer Lorne Lanning at VGXPO 07 in Philadelphia.

That said, it's rather difficult to believe that the debate would be lost over the length of an introduction. As for the Screw Attack user-created video, let's just call it ill-advised and unfunny.

UPDATE: Thompson has confirmed to GamePolitics that he is under contract to appear. An e-mail from Thompson to Methenitis, cc'd to GP, indicates that the debate may yet be salvageable.

UPDATE 2: Thompson has forwarded a copy of a conciliatory e-mail from Screw Attack which describes the video in question as user-created content; it has apparently been removed. Thompson, however, continues to make demands of the event organizers:

This thing will start to get back on track if the person in charge... makes a very prominent and public statement at ScrewAttack.com and to the media (yes, that even includes GamePolitics, which is run as if it were Strauss Zelnick's house organ) [GP: LOL] stating that ScrewAttack disavows that video, that ScrewAttack KNOWS that the reason Jack Thompson is taking a day out of his life and away from his family is that he cares about the ISSUES in this debate, and that anybody, ANYBODY, who says or does anything out of line at this event will be escorted from the event immediately...

UPDATE 3: Stop the presses! The debate is not canceled, at least not yet. Thompson and the Screw Attack crew have scheduled a conference call for tomorrow to - hopefully - sort out their issues.


Comments

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

It's up in my original post but I thought I'd reiterate it here:

Screw Attack did not cave to Thompson and pull the video.  It was voluntarily removed by the user who created it.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Once again Jackie proves that he can throw a punch but can't take one. I would love to have a debate about the evils of Christianianity and see just how how maturely he acts having his beliefs and religion constantly attacked without any solid evidence. My god he would go postal! The baby needs to grow up especially after the VERY long list of flat out demeaning and and downright hateful words that came out of his mouth over the years he has no right to complain about that video being offensive to him. He's a simple bully that once you put him in the corner he breaks down and cries like the bitch he is.

Demanding the government to do yor job AS A PARENT to decide what's appropriate and what's not: THAT'S GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT!!! THE SAME GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT MOST PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE AGAINST!

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

When you get right down to it, most people want the government to run their lives in some way.  On the right you have idiots who want the government to legislate morality.  On the left you have idiots who want the government to wipe their lazy asses for them.  Both groups of idiots cry "freedom" and "liberty" totally unaware of their latent hypocracy.

Jackie is, like so many Christians, in such denial of the inherent evils of their religion that confronting them with this is useless.  Jack has proven that he gets off on being critisized (sp?) because he often equates himself to a martyr or even Christ himself.  Somehow I think Jesus wouldn't be amused...

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Even here on this site, some people blame ScrewAttack. Why?? They did not make that video.

And have you actually seen both the video they actually made, *and* the video that caused this hardly newsworthy debate in the first place?

A bunch of kids poking childish fun at him. It was mildly funny, if you can get yourself into the right mood, Jim Carrey-style I guess.

 

The actual ScrewAttack video is just a short Mega-Man styled introduction to who's going to be on the show, and this man is introduced in a pretty cool way.

 

The ONLY thing this article was good for is to let people know this debate would've even happened. I didn't know until now. 

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

ScrewAttack deserves a truckload of shit because they are giving this piece of filth money and attention.  They are enablers who are giving a voice to a "man" (I use the term loosely) who is a proven liar who takes joy in the deaths of others and has a long history of exploiting tragedies to promote his special brand of religious extremism.  There are plenty of other anti-game personalities they could invite who are civil and might actually bring valid points to the table other than hatespeech, hyperbole, and Bible quotes.

Shame on ScrewAttack for inviting him and shame on attendees of this event for letting their money go to the waste of atoms known as Jack Thompson.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

You know, I took a minute after reading this to realize you're right. Anything Jack Thompson touches gets taken down in court. Wherever he goes, he is labeled for the idiot he is.

Guys, his life is essentially over. He will never do anything useful again, and we have nothing to be afraid of. We should go after other more famous idiots, like Glenn Beck. The hypocrisy spewing out of that man's mouth is disgusting and he needs to be owned in a proper debate. People have tried to talk to him on his radio show and he just goes "HAHAHAHA YOU'RE OBSESSING OVER GAMES" even though that's exactly what he's doing, attacking gaming and gamers on a regular basis.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Only a lawyer or a politician could use a silly video as an excuse to back out of a contractually obligated appearance.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Especially since the video's message is that people shouldn't ask him stupid questions.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Who cares? Is he doing us some kind of favor by debating? If he wants to be a baby and drop out just because someone posted something bad about him on the bloody internet then let him. As far as I'm concerned, the less Jack Thompson talks in any format the better. The man is a joke. There is zero benefit in either listening to him or debating him.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I could care less about a "tasteless" video that made fun of him. He's made an ass out of himself numerous times and the hypocrite has made tasteless comments himself(see MGS.org user suicide, the Florida lawyer drowning on vacation while saving his wife from a similar fate, comments about Sony Japan, Rockstar, Louisiana officials).

He's looking for any excuse to chicken out of the debate because he knows that he'll get owned by Mark Methenitis on Saturday. Then again, Penn & Teller will be owning him next week on Showtime.

Man up, Jacky Boy. Practice what you preach about growing up and getting a life.

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

 

uh, Jack backed out.  Well, now he knows when he can't win a argument.

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

acting like a spoiled brat again...

seriously jack, here i thought we gamers need to grow up. Apparently, you need to grow up more.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Please please please... have a copy of that AMA report that Jack keeps misusing and dismantle his argument point by point.  I'm tired of him completely misquoting and twisting it to his own ends. 

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

While I think the video is childish and in poor poor taste. 

OK, VERY  poor taste.

I don't think JT has any right to back out of his contractually agreed to debate. If he does, it just proves once more that not only does he not have the stones to actually stand by his beliefs, but he's thin skinned, self serving, and cowardly. It woudl also prove that his crusade has never, EVER been about protecting children, but about gettting more noteriaty for himself, nothing more.

It was a bad idea to make such a tasteless video, but if jack thompson uses it as an excuse to slime his way out of the debate, he's no better. In fact, he's many many many times worse.

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I can see qwhere this is going.

Pretty much, if he goes at all, he will wait for the first person to say something from the audience, and he will demand their removal, hoping they will refuse. But at some point, he will either claim ultimate victory or he will claim the whole thing was a sham (wow) and head off in a huff.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Stop the presses! The debate is not canceled, at least not yet. Thompson and the Screw Attack crew have scheduled a conference call for tomorrow to - hopefully - sort out their issues.

What could possibily Go wrong(Sarcasm)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Ya know what's funny?  This tactic of agreeing to a debate, dropping out 'cuz he claims someone did him wrong and he'd rather be with family, and then try to slip back in ain't all that original.

Ross Perot anyone?

And look how far HE got.  And Perot was of more value to the Human species than John Bruce.

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Honestly I don't understand why you'd want Jack for a debate, aside from as a humorous spectacle. It's not like anything we'd say would convince him he's an idiot, nor would he be able to make us see what "reprobates" we are.

Anyone with a shred of decency and self respect would have avoided the spotlight after the public humiliation of being disbarred for life. But Jack just contiues to show his real colors as a shameless attention whore.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Why is a bona fide lawyer interested in debating anything with a disbarred lawyer? Aside from giving Jack change on the street, there's no reason for Mark to speak with him. Jack is officially a lesser human being, according to the courts.

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Probably to show Thompson how a real, adult lawyer is supposed to act.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

So JT is saying "We are back on track to having the event as planned...."

The SAME event he said he'd "" have better things to do than take an entire day away  from my family--a holiday, no less--to argue to a bunch of gamers that they are idiots. "

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Even though Jack is at least willing to talk about it I still think he is not going. I predict that Jack will threaten to sue them and the phone call will be ready to listen to tomorrow.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Now that the video is gone, will Jack complain that this is an "admission of guilt"?

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Either that or he'll claim that Mark Methenitis cannot properly debate him because Mark hasn't properly executed a valid loyalty oath. Or that the presence of gold-fringed U.S. flags inside the convention hall automatically turns any debate into a military tribunal.

Was it 1v.World who posted confessions of love for Jack Thompson above? I can certainly relate. How can you not love the man? You just gotta love him.

 

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Again, Thompson shows he has abolutely no sense of humor, the only laughter he gets is at others expense, such as the MGS/org user or the lawyer who lost his life trying ot save his family, of course Thompson can't understand either. He is in no danger of losing his home, and he only cares for himself.

He'll either find another problem, hire armed bodyguards, or just not show up. And I love it, if you don't agree with him a billion percent, you are a part of the liberal-gay-gamer conspiracy headed by someone who had likely never been to the hill.

I won't be surprised if Thompson has the debate hall emptied in five minutes. Guess the two sentence intro was a novel too few for his ego.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

What do you mean liberal? He included the Bush boys in his conspiracy, possibly even Cheney. I don't know if he's mentioned the Pope yet, though.

 

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Eh, he's a hyper conservative whackjob, so usually if you speak out agaisnt him in any way, you're suddenly a liberal.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Wow, the event is back on, I must admit, I'm a bit surprised, though I won't be surprised if yet again, the man wusses out a second time.  Ah Jack Thompson, you amuse me so.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Well he's contractually obligated to participate, and since he reasons are never really valid enough to get out of a legally binding document, i'd find it funny if he didn't go because then they could probably sue him or perform some other legal action for breach of contract.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

True, but no one ever said that Jack Thompson was bright, and I could still see him trying to get out of it.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

And the debate's still on.  Haha, nice try, Jackie Boy.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I watched the video and was 2/5. And Jack is just using it as an excuse to not to go to de debate. How he can take the video as official propaganda for SGC? It´s an usal internet video, for Cristh-sake. What a drooling retard.

He should be arrested over by that building bombed picture he used against Florida Bar in one of his ramblings.

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I love it that a man who got disbarred for acting 'out of line', who tried to turn his own hearings into some kind of circus, should be worried about people being 'out of line' at his own debate.

Besides, who decides what is 'out of line'? For Thompson the statement 'I disagree with your opinion' seems to be material enough for declaration of Fatwah, I certainly wouldn't trust him, of all the people in the world, to decide what is acceptable public behaviour and what isn't.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

"...I would have used the $2000 to help me in bringing down The Florida Bar..."

"...I have never been introduced with 1 or 2 sentences.  Nobody can be introduced in that fashion..."

"...I have better things to do than take an entire day away from my family..."

"...anybody, ANYBODY, who says or does anything out of line at this event will be escorted from the event immediately..."
 

Ahh, Johnnie Bruce.  Thank you for reminding me why I love you so much.  And I do.  It is a very special kind of love that can only exist between an avid gamer and a hate-spewing anti-gaming twatwaffle.  Do not mock this love, for it is real.
 

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I think I'm going to have to steal the term "twatwaffle" from you.  Hope you don't mind.

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-- Sometimes the truth is arrived at by adding all the little lies together and deducting them from the totality of what is known

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

"...I have never been introduced with 1 or 2 sentences.  Nobody can be introduced in that fashion..."

Here he is, the liar, the manipulator of fact, and the ragin lawyer from Miami iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's John Bruce 'Jack' THOMPSON!

My god.  I just did it.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

He's absolutely desperate not to have to put his money where his mouth is, isn't he?

People were all saying he'd been too spineless to go through with it from the start. Looks like they were right.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

You may be excused for being offended by a user-created vid. But demanding that the host site publicy disavow it is just stupid. This isn't international diplomacy, Jack.

Also, whining about the lengh of the intro is just childish. You're famous enough that nobody present really needs to be told who you are. And if your opponent's intro is the same length, you have nothing to complain about.

Finally, citing a "security problem" as a reason for backing out isn't going to cut it. We're all eager to hear you speak and we will gladly castigate anyone who heckles you.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Maybe it was in bad taste (didn't see it) but it's the internet.

If it can be filmed, it's on the internet.  I'm sure by the usual standards of the web, it was probably kind of tame in comparison.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

The only rate on the internets is if it´s funny or not. Usually, funny means offensive...

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

This strikes me as posturing and nothing else.  He is demonstrating to the event that he is important and offended and if they do not acknowledge that he has power over how things turn out then he will exerisize it.  It makes him feel strong and important and puts the other side on the defensive.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

That´s the only reason left in his pathetic life... if he could, he will live just for it.

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Only reason left?  As far as I can tell, that has always been his primary thing.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I can imagine the debate like this:

Jack: You are evil! You are evil!

Mod: Mr. Thompson, I just asked you if there are any real evidence about violent games destroying people souls. That sounds very unscientific...

Jack: Shut up, you idiot. Gamers are evilz, and Jesus is on my side...

Methenitis: That´s not Jesus, is a guy cosplaying Kratos.

"Kratos": I´m greek, srsly...

Jack: Everyone is against me. Screw Attack put me a trap by orders of Strauss Zelnick, that child molester. Even the Congress is conspiring against me. And I don´t need any real evidence because I belive in God and you are god-less moronic child molesters DESU--

Mod: Mr. Thompson, calm down, you can suffer a heart attack.

Jack: Noooo!!! I´m being screwed by Screw Attack and You Tube. Damn you, Dennis! This is all your fault and Obama DESU--

Methenitis: Wow, he is complete out of his...

Jack colapses on the floor... BONK!

Mod: Oh, God, is he...?

Fat Lady: Someone call an ambulance.

Jack:...

House M.D. intro starts...

 

Back to reality, DESU---

Honestly, I think this debate event will be just a waste of time for anybody. I can´t think one single time that Jack has ever debate about anything, specially videogames.

For Jack a debate is being at some conservative TV Show and just circle-jerking with a bunch of conservatives and all being agree about everything outside their brains are evil.

The worst thing is that if some one on the audience just try to call Jack names, Jack will drop out from the debate claiming he was bullied by gamers and start bitching about that everytime he can.

If somebody is going to that event, please, record it on video and post it on Youtube so we can laught at it.

And if someone is gonna to throw vegetables against Thompson during the debate, please DON´T. (be polite and wait until the parking zone, DESU--)

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Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

That might have been funny if you didn't say DESU about 50,000 times more than is acceptable. (Because saying random japanese phrases makes you cool)

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

Four equals fifty thousand?

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

For very large values of four, or very small values of fifty thousand.

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

I never got to see the video...so how did it make fun of Christians (as Jack claimed)? Any details on that?

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

They asked if his religion approved of him being a butt.  You're not  missing much with the video, it's ten questions of people calling him a butt.

 

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"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Jack Thompson Says He Won't Appear for July 4th Debate ...

essentially, one of the questions not to ask him is if "his religion" allows its followers to act as uncivil toward others as Jack is.

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