Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

July 1, 2009 -

The on-again, off-again July 4th debate between disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson and gamer/attorney Mark Methenitis is apparently back on.

The debate, planned for this weekend's SGC09 in Dallas, went off the rails rather suddenly yesterday morning when Thompson complained to event host Screw Attack (and cc'd GamePolitics) that:

  • he objected to a one- or two-line introduction ("I have never been introduced with 1 or 2 sentences.  Nobody can be introduced in that fashion...")
  • he objected to a user-created parody video posted (and since removed) on the Screw Attack site; Thompson may have believed the video, "Questions Not to Ask Jack Thompson" at SGC," was official Screw Attack content

After posting a story detailing Thompson's assertion that he was canceling his appearance, GamePolitics rather unexpectedly found itself in the middle of a day-long flurry of e-mails between Screw Attack personnel and Thompson. Event organizers were clearly seeking to assuage Thompson's concerns and salvage the debate. By late Tuesday afternoon, it appeared that Thompson, who is apparently under contract and being paid $2,000 for his appearance, was softening his position after receiving assurances from Screw Attack Program Director Craig Skistimas.

As recently as this morning, however, Thompson demanded that a post by a Screw Attack user be removed. While it was not taken down, the author, who was also behind the parody video that Thompson found offensive, e-mailed the disbarred attorney a lengthy apology; that seemed to satisfy Thompson.

Next, Thompson e-mailed Skistimas a "proposed text" to be used as his introduction at the debate. The 12-sentence intro mentioned his 2008 lifetime disbarment very briefly, referring to it as "illegal" and blaming the loss of his law license on "lawyers for Take-Two, the makers of the Grand Theft Auto games."

GP asked Skistimas whether the introduction would actually be used at SGC09. Skistimas told us, "I have yet to review his intro but Jack and I will work together to find an intro that fits both his needs and the time format of the debate at SGC."

A conference call between Thompson and the Screw Attack team planned for noon today was canceled when the parties decided in late morning that the debate was back on and Thompson was satisified.

Skistimas also said that the site would release a video tomorrow to reinforce the fact that Thompson will appear at SGC09.


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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

That is actually not bad idea...

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Watch out, if you did, he'd sue you for harassment just like he attempted to sue those people for sending him flowers.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

mikedo2007

So Jack is going to debate uh.  I guess our mockery on GP must have motivated him to go back to debate again.  Well, time to see Jack fail, AGAIN!!!

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

"I have never been introduced with 1 or 2 sentences. Nobody can be introduced in that fashion..."

Really, Jack? I could introduce you with a single word.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

I have a very good and extended selection of words to describe him... even a longest one in spanish. Simón, wey.

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

For some reason, that made me laugh way too hard.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

They gave in? Not cool guys, not cool.

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

I don't think they "gave in" It is more like they are humoring him in order to get the debate back on track.

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

You can call it that, if you want to call it that. You can also surmise that if my freak show centered around The Man with the Four Foot Penis who, on the eve of opening night, was suddenly refusing to unfurl his penis, I'd be "humoring" him, too.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

"You can call it that, if you want to call it that. You can also surmise that if my freak show centered around The Man with the Four Foot Penis who, on the eve of opening night, was suddenly refusing to unfurl his penis, I'd be "humoring" him, too."

I agree.  It's in everyone's best interest to make sure the JT debate goes on as planned.  It's a headline event for SGC and something a lot of people are looking forward to (possibly the main reason several are going).  I'm sure Screw Attack's first impulse is to give Thompson the finger but they'd have a lot of vexed G1s if they didn't get the debate back on track.

Needless to say, displeasing the attendees of your first convention is something to avoid if you ever plan to hold another.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

I'll admit it's not the most tasteful analogy I've ever come up with and looking back at it does make me cringe just a little bit. But, in my own defense, it's a damn sight more tasteful than what my first impulse suggested was an appropriate description for what EZK describes, perhaps more tastefully but certainly less accurately, as ScrewAttack "humoring" Jack Thompson.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

How can you humour him if he's not making any demands? Did you read his mind?

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Because The Man with the Four Foot Penis so loves to unfurl his penis in public that the only reason he'd be refusing to unfurl his penis was to gain some sort of leverage.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Couldn't he just get an erection? That'd be one hell of a lever.

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Does a man with a four foot penis ever really need to get an erection?

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

If he is with a woman with a 8-feet-deep va-jay-jay (thanks, Oprah), well...

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

If he needs something to use for leverage, yes. Might be a bit hard to achieve arousal if, say, it's a horrific car carsh and a car needs to be lifted off a body. I'd be rather worried as to WHY he got one in that case.

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Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

So THAT'S who's buying those odd pants with zippers at the leg bottoms...

GameSnooper

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Never seen a penis that even had 1 foot, let alone 4... Why would it even need a foot? To take itself for walks or sumthing? :P

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

That's only because I'm not a show-off. My penis has not one but two feet and can tap dance circles around Savion Glover.

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Next, Thompson e-mailed Skistimas a "proposed text" to be used as his introduction at the debate. The 12-sentence intro mentioned his 2008 lifetime disbarment very briefly, blaming it on "lawyers for Take-Two, the makers of the Grand Theft Auto games."

...

I thought it was 'all part of the plan'? That's pretty funny though, I'm sure Jack's harassment and stalking, which continue to this day, were larger factors...

Re: Jack Thompson Debate Back On at SGC09

Oh, when people complain that news anchors call him "video game expert" or "school shooting expert" when he appears for interviews. That's one of my pet peeves. Anchors don't necessarily belive these descriptions are true- they are likely proposed indroductions from Thompson himself.

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