Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules Game-Bashing July 4th Guest

July 3, 2009 -

Last week, GamePolitics broke the news that the ultra-conservative Eagle Forum had filed a "friend of the court" brief with the U.S. Supreme Court in support of Calfornia's bid to have its 2005 violent video game law reviewed by the justices.

The rambling brief sought to link video games with everything from school shootings to poor grades to sudden death.

The group, founded by conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly, wades back into gamer space tomorrow when video game critic Arthur Ally appears as a guest on Eagle Forum Live, a radio show hosted by Schlafly.

Ally bills himself as a morally-responsible fund manager. In December his Timothy Plan investment fund issued a list of 30 "most offensive" video games, including the likes of World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online and Halo 3.

Ally also rather famously criticized Army of Two for "somewhat homo-erotic undertones between the two main characters."

Ironically, the conversation between this pair of would-be censors airs at 11:00 a.m. Central Time on Independence Day.


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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

The audio of the show is on their website.  Listening to these people is like listening to something from the 1950s. The language they use is so archaic that it is shocking to hear that there are people who still talk that way.  The guy calls kids "junior" the entire time. He's talking about "the games are interactive now!" and of course he pronounced Mario as "Marry-o."

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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That's pretty damn scary, and says a LOT about why they act this way.

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lol, "Marry-o"? the only time I heard that in my life was from a crappy text-to-speech engine from the '80s

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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Oh, they just mentioned the old "the military uses videogames!!!" line. They keep harping on "the liberals" even though most of the videogame laws have been proposed by Democrats...

 

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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Now a woman whose husband has done 3 tours in Iraq and is going through therapy is concerned about her husband playing too many games.  Yes, it sounds like the games are the problem there...

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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The eagle forum are idiots for a reason

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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PS Jack - nobody uses the phrase "Rocks and rolls" (With the 's' add onto 'rock' or not) anymore, it hasn't been in serious use for about 40 years.

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What do you expect from someone who thinks American was "better" 40 years ago?

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Why is it that whenever someone declares themselves 'morally responsible' it's really a thinly veiled excuse to push their belief systems onto other people? THey can raise their kids and live their lives however they want, and I won't judge them, but I expect the same courtesy to be extended to me in return.

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LOL at the homo-erotic undertones for Army of Two. Did you know that ancient Roman soldiers would sometimes turn towards intercourse between males in their own armies when they are in active duty and miles away from any villages? Hence why rape sometimes occurs when villages get invaded.

GameSnooper

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so what did i miss jacky boy post?? the usual dumb junk post


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Awwwww yeah probably another "whine whine, gamers are evil...I am so great. I've been on TV! PAY ATTENTION TO ME! whine whine whine."

Sucks that I missed it :\

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

Idiots like this "Timothy Plan" piece of trash and groups like the Eagle Forum should be declared traitors against America and thrown into jail where they belong.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

It'll be a sad day when treason is defined as "spreading opinions a lot of people find despicable" or "generally being considered a piece of trash".

Traitor to America is never a charge to be thrown around lightly.

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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

When a group like the Eagle Fordumb or the Parent Trash Cult is trying to ban a part of American pop culture in our current state of war against Islamic terrorists that hate American pop culture, they are endorsing and aiding our enemies, the way I see it.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

I agree regarding organizations and individuals that actively attempt to subvert the US Constitution and it's Amendments for the purpose of creating a Theological Dictatorship in the US.  The Eagle Foru, Vets for (Anti-) Freedom, the Traitor John Bruce "Jack" Thompson, and many others actively attempt to forcibly deny citizens their Constitutional Rights by falsely claiming a Right to file a grievance (if one isn't forced or required to participate, how can one have a grievance?) and other dishonorable, unethical, and immoral acts.  These ARE traitors to the US, the US Constitution, and the citizens of the US.

But individuals and organizations who merely specialize and offer opinions, even ones based on false information, lies, dand deceit, but allow others to either accept or refuse to accept those opinions or participate in their groups are not really traitors to the US, the US Constitution, or the citizens of the US.  They are not honorable, ethical, or moral if they use lies, deceit, fraud, and/or misinformation.  But they are not denying other citizens their Rights.

Decades ago, an infamous senator tried to label those who held beliefs different from his own as traitors.  Misuse of his authority, fearmongering, intimidation, lies, deceit, and fraud were his weapons.  But his victims only held differing beliefs.  They did not attempt to force anyone to follow their beliefs or to even listen to their beliefs.  The senator, himself, was far more a traitor to the US, the US Constitution, and the citizens of the US.  If anyone should have been charged with treason, it should have been him.  Not because of his beliefs, but because of his actions to deprive other citizens of THEIR Rights.  The Timothy Plan folks don't like something, so they don't offer those companies up for investing in.  And they openly state their beliefs.  And their customers are free to follow or not follow their recommendations.  They are liars and deceivers, but in this respect, they are not traitors.  Advocation of censorship and the attempt to deprive others of their Rights may be grounds for treason as such is an attempt to subvert the US Constitution.  But not merely their beliefs.

Nightwng2000

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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

Well, they are really close on "hate speech" category, anyways.

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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

As far as I'm concerned, even hate speech is protected, as much as I may hate it.

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I thought it was illegal on US...

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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing "Eagle" Forum Schedules ...

Only in very limited contexts. If it constitutes harrassment, intimidation, a threat, or any other kind of non-protected speech, it's illegal, but not because of being hate speech in-and-of-itself. It might elevate it to a hate crime in some cases, but it's not hate that makes the speech illegal to begin with.

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From what I understand, only some is illegal, but the majority is not due to the First Amendment.

Lordy Be

Eagle Forums went down the tube when Jack turned on them (if I remember correctly). I take it they are trying to repair what damage has been done.

Side note to Thompson. Nobody cares about GTA4 anymore. Not to mention, why are you still posting on Gamepolitics? Its been almost a year now, aren't you getting tired of this? I think you could use a vacation Thompson, go see the world, drop the act and enjoy life.

Re: Lordy Be

It's been WAY over a year, Jack's been on here for as long as I can remember and according to the site I've been here for 2 years and 40 weeks (although I doubt it counts the livejournal era which Jack was also a part of).

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Re: Lordy Be

Ok I'm no doctor but Thompson needs to be checked out. That's just unhealthy.

Re: Lordy Be

A long time ago Jack was actually court ordered to be given a mental test of some kind and he came back with 'sane'. I guess paranoia, persecution complexes and delusions of grandeur aren't enough to get someone declared insane, either that or Jack was able to hide them.

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Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

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Re: Lordy Be

Actually, he did his best to circumvent that court order, even going so far as to go to a psychologist himself, however, the Dr he saw happened to be a family friend.

Re: Lordy Be

Well I know he went to a psychologist but I didn't know it was a family friend.

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Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

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Re: Lordy Be

family friend and member of the congrigation that hes part of (i think jack was the groups pastor or something like that)

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

Y'Know, The people @ the Eagle Forum are getting back into the video game subject again becuase they are hopping mad that not enough people came together to overturn the Governor's veto. They had all the support to get it all the way to the govornor, but not enough to overturn his decision.

And Jack, I like GTA 3, Vice City, San Andereas, GTA Advance, Liberty City Stories, and Vice City Stories (well, the GTA 3x series)) Better than GTA4. Not every gamer thinks the world of that game like you say we do.

 - Warren

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility.

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Wow, so not only is the Eagle Forum incredibly conservative they also agree with and have people on their radio show  who think that domestic abuse centers "are usually corrupt feminist enterprises that actually endanger women." (see their may 30th show http://www.eagleforum.org/radio/2009/may09/may2009.html )

Jacko really has great taste in people to hang out with.  First he defends the family of a man accused of abusing his own son http://popularculturegaming.com/?p=208 now he's hanging out with people who think that places that try to help victems of domestic abuse are bad. 

Is a pattern forming here?

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

I guess this is what Leviticus meant when it said eagles are an abomination

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

And:

Leviticus 15:19-30 - to paraphrase, women on their periods are unclean and so is everything they touch. Anything that comes into contact with them must be washed before using again.

I know that cause I was using stuff like that for a story I was writing.

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 Didn't SCOTUS already refuse to hear this case?

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

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The people who deserve things their way the least tend to fight hardest to get it.

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Not in his mind...

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AE: 35-page court document deleted.

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

It's posts like this that make me wish I still had the chops for hacking.  Ah well...

HEY! LISTEN!"

"HEY! LISTEN!"

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

tl;dr

keep your posts related to the topic at hand

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

Piss off, necrophile. It's junk like this that got you disbarred for life, not the crippling retardation you keep passing off as "faith."

Every single one of you so-called moral crusaders are nothing but sick filth, endorsing child abuse and terrorism while expecting us to believe your half-witted lies about 'saving lives'. You Josef Fritzl wanna-bes deserve nothing less than to be banned and burned like you want to do to the rest of the planet, let's see how you like a taste of your own medicine.

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It's junk like this that got you disbarred for life, not the crippling retardation you keep passing off as "faith."

that, and being a pharisee

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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AE: Off topic letter deleted.

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sorry Jacko, we're not your forwarding service

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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They only want the law so they don't have to do anything to stop their kid from getting a game and Big Brother will. Plus movies are not under attack and they are just as violent as games. Seesh I hate when people decide the government knows best.

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You are far to be a normal person. A crazy dude is more fair description for you.

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Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

how apt: just as how Satan has posed as a servant of Jealous, father of Jesus, Thompson poses as a GTA supporter.

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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Jack, jack jack.  I know this may be a big people concept and far above your little person mind, but it's not a news release if you say it or, as you so often do, MAKE IT THE HELL UP.  Please, pull your head out of your ass.  And please, enjoy getting said ass figuratively handed to you at the debate.  No one wishes you harm; we just wish to watch you flounder as you try to defend your lunacy.

Have a nice day, and you should probably get fitted for a straightjacket sooner, rather than later.

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XD how the hell are those games "morally" offensive??? 

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looks like the Eagle Forum has gotten a case of Obsession with video games, This censorship war is starting to get a little more worthless

from what I heard the people incharge of the Timothy plan Don't want censorship at all, they want parents to try and avoid the games that are moraly offensive to children

 

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Radio Alert: Game-Bashing Eagle Forum Schedules ...

Slight correction, they want parents to make their own decisions o nwhat games they allow their children to play, instead of some morally self righteous douche trying to outright ban what THEY find offensive.

 
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