Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft Studio

July 6, 2009 -

The provincial government of Ontario will make a massive investment into a new Ubisoft studio, reports Toronto's National Post.

Premier Dalton McGuinty (Left) announced today that Ontario will sink $263 million into Ubisoft Toronto over the next 10 years. Ubisoft itself plans to invest more than $500 million in the project.

A projected increase of 800 jobs is a large part of the Ontario government's motivation to invest in the new studio, which will be Ubisoft's fourth in Canada. Said McGuinty:

Our world is one where you can borrow capital, you can copy technology and you can buy natural resources. But to build a high wage and a high standard of living you need talent. By investing in Ubisoft, we're building Ontario's economy now and for the future.


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Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

This studio will likely be outside the city limits of Toronto to minimize expenses and maximize revenue. Probably in Markham or Oakville, like Rockstar Toronto. The city's property taxes have become quite punative for businesses under the abysmal reign of our moronic socialist mayor. 

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Good thing Harper is lost somewhere in the 1950s.. I'm surprised he would let 263$ millions go into Ubisoft, and thus culture, after the cuts he made then.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

You know, when you want to critisize a government, it's best that you actually know the difference between a provincial and a federal government. Because the Ontario Government - currently Dalton McGuinty's Liberal Government which has lead my province to become a have-not province - made this decision, which has next to nothing to do with the federal government.

Next time figure out which government you're critisizing and you won't look so stupid, and then perhaps someone will take you seriously (but hopefully not)

Edit: Also I had to come back because it bothered me that I made no remark about the typical liberal remark in regards to the 'culture cut'. I suggest you look up what the cuts actually were. a .5% cut from money that went to a studio that produced such culteral masterpieces as "Young kids fucking" (actual movie, look it up. Granted it's not child pornography, but it's still nothing my fucking money should fund), or 'art' that involved starving a dog and putting food just out of it's reach, because it was so "deep" to try and watch a starving dog eat unsuccessfully. That's that's the art that .5% of the art budget was cut. God forbid.


Jesus christ, you idiots who prattle on like you have a right to talk about this shit annoy me to no end. You don't even know the BASIC differences between our governments that any second grader can tell you, and then you think you're educated enough to talk about the finer details in our budget without know what they're funding, how much is being cut, but not letting that hold you back from announcing harper as a "culture killer". I thought that argument ended years ago, but you just brought it back up. Thanks for that. Also thank you GamePolitics for putting McGuinty's smug face here. What a recipe to ruin my day.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

"You know, when you want to critisize a government, it's best that you actually know the difference between a provincial and a federal government."

I actually do, thank you very much. Don't need to rage-type this much next time.

Also, can you read? As far as I can quote myself, I wrote "I'm surprised he would let 263$" and not "federal government."

Point of my whole post was, if I was Harper I'd be nerd-raging harder than you if I saw 263$ millions go into culture, especially a video-game company, rather than in the military. That would've been my point, if you read right.

Also, it doesn't matter wether the cuts in culture were harmful or unsignificant, when you attack a culture, you attack the people and the people's epitaph that birthed it. I'd prefer to have this money fund a crappy show than equip another soldier to die in a losing war.

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"Granted it's not child pornography"

Funny story, while the Liberals under Jean Chretien were in power, their commitee that hands out arts money did infact fund AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE OF CHILD PORN. The movie included such gems as an older man licking a young boy's lactating nipple.

I've lived in Quebec a long time but I was born in Ontario and I have to say, I'm glad I'm not there right now.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Would you care to back that up with citation, and how this relates to funding game developers in Ontario?

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

 It doesn't relate to game developers, at least not directly.

It relates to a media storm we had a while ago about how harper is "killing culture" because he cut .5% of funding to an art company that was making fucked up things like starving dogs. I don't know if what he said has any truth, but I do know it's definately in the realm of the things they've done.


However, the liberal media immediately began spinning stories like "HARPER IS KILLING ART! CUTTING MONEY THAT FUNDS CLASSES THAT TEACH ART IN SCHOOL!" which was true only in the sense that the budget going to art was cut, but not in that sector.


It was all complete Penn and Teller Bullshit that people all fell for, and we've had many problems because of that small shit. Which is why I got so annoyed and angry up there over the lad I responded too's subtle implication. I don't like ignorant people, I don't like stupid ignorant people, and I hate that stupid ignorant people have so much power to cause all this horse shit.

*ahem*

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

"I don't know if what he said has any truth..."

"I don't like ignorant people..."

 Does this strike you as irony?

 

"We've had many problems because of that small shit."

"I hate that stupid ignorant people have so much power to cause all this horse shit."

 Care to elaborate?  Or are you just in a bad mood?

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

"I don't know if what he said has any truth..."

"I don't like ignorant people..."

 Does this strike you as irony?

Uh, no? I know the finer points of the issue over all, but never heard of the funding going into actual child porn. Why would I want to? Why would I go out of my way to read about every single thing this art company produced when I'm boycotting them? 

I know many things they did, and that's enough. Not knowing the name of every piece of equipment in a car doesn't make you ignorant as to how a car works, when you know how to drive. 

So no, I don't think not being aware about one piece of 'art' the company produced many years ago makes me ignorant, furthermore I only said I didn't hear about that in my reply to him, while the term ignorant is applied to people who don't know anything, but think they do, think they know best, and cause 'change' that's based on their ignorance, which in many cases (like this one) is completely wrong and innaccurate. Which in turn causes damage.
 

"We've had many problems because of that small shit."

"I hate that stupid ignorant people have so much power to cause all this horse shit."

 Care to elaborate?  Or are you just in a bad mood?

Not really, it's a 2 year old issue, and indeed, I am in a bad mood. That's what bringing this up does. If you want to learn more, feel free to google Harper Culture Killer or something, and then check up on the facts on the things people say. It's perhaps worth a laugh to you, but it's simply depressing to me. Like Fox News is to many Americans. 

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Projecting much, Pinworm?

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad the Canadian government has left gamers and game developers their space, but giving any corporation $263 million for 800 jobs is quite a lot of money, especially considering Ontario is suffering and could really use that money somewhere more important, (no offense Ubisoft) like attempting to deal with health care wait times or kids coming out of high school reading and writing english at a grade 4 level.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

1) Health Care wait times are not as long as you think. It's actually very short. However, there is the occasion where the wait time is too long in some areas, so a person may go to the states. However, the is more rare then you think, but Conservative American media exploits it like crazy so the States won't adopt free health care.

2) Kids coming out of high school with a 4th grade reading level is usually not a failure of the education system. At least in Canada. Many times, it's usually family problems, or some kind of personal problem. Do you expect the government could solve those problems? They may try, and it may help some people, but they can't really solve everything unless you do something like the Truman show.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

...okay as a Canadian, this does sound like an awesome idea...but we are also in the middle of recovering from a recession. Now Ubisoft in Montreal has been making some awesome and amazing guys (Prince of Persia and Assassin's Creed come to mind)...but is that really worth hundreds of millions that should be better used else where? Ah well, time to play 'wait and see'...

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Having benefitted from government grants in the past, the only 'catch' is that you have to play by certain rules, and that your application will be signed, lost, found, and filed at the bottom of a drawer behind a length of red tape that says 'Beware of Tiger'.

Given UbiSoft's track record, it's probably a good investment (and, as per the article, UbiSoft itself is doing most of the heavy lifting).  26 million dollars a year is a drop in the bucket as far as government budgets are concerned.

http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/budget/ontariobudgets/2009/

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

I hope no one complains about this. Already saw one post with a complaint. With most of the world's governments bashing games in the "Won't you think of the children?" campaign, it's nice that some governements, even if they are retarded in some aspects, don't cowtail to fear mongering morality police.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

I agree that this is probably a good thing.  I'm just too cynical to take it purely at face value.

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Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

I have mixed feelings about this.  On one hand, having one of the 'Big Boys' will help bring new talent to the city.

On the other hand, they'll all be working for Ubisoft, making it harder for smaller companies to acquire fresh blood.

On the third hand, it would be a great way for people to get experience without having to move to Montreal or Vancouver.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

 There's a lot of talented people in Toronto.  However, over the years, they've all been moving out to Montreal or BC (or in my case Charlottetown) because of the tax credits that those provinces provide.  I'm a native Torontonian born and raised, but the environment just wasn't there for game development.  There were very very few studios.  This is definitely exciting news.

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Well I don't mind a goverment grant to help build new jobs, but isn't $263 million overkill or is it just me?

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

You don't fall in with the Obama camp, do you?

Maybe I'm just a cynical American, but I'm wondering what the catch is with that money.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Ontario Govt. Will Sink $263 Million into New Ubisoft ...

Sweet, now I know where to submit my resume to once I am done school.

 
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