Houston Chronicle: Is Racism Becoming a Norm in Gaming?

July 15, 2009 -

Yesterday's edition of the Houston Chronicle's Game Hack blog ponders whether racism is becoming a norm in video game design.

Blogger Willie Jefferson expresses concern over 2009 releases Resident Evil 5 and Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood (pic at left) as well as the in-development Left 4 Dead 2. RE5, of course, has already been the subject of much debate over its depiction of African villagers as zombies. Jefferson writes:

I am disturbed by the growing trend of racist undertones that are cropping up in video games.

One of the games that comes to mind is "Left 4 Dead 2." ...Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans. When I saw the first trailer for the game, all I could think about was Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath...

The game that really inspired this blog entry was Ubisoft's "Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood." The game starts out with players assuming the role of Ray, a Confederate officer... the Confederacy, as far as I am concerned, wanted to keep their cheap slave labor and the like. I can not stand the Confederate flag... To me, the flag represents hate -- and offends me and many others to no end. [It] made me wonder how much research Ubisoft did for this game...

As a minority, had the South won, I wouldn't be in this position I am today...


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I'm disturbed by how damn sensitive people are these days.

If you don't like a game (or something in it) then don't play it. Simple.

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That was really weak. I mean, lame pull of race card aside, of all the actual examples of racist stereotypes, you pull out these games?



One of the games that comes to mind is "Left 4 Dead 2." ...Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans. When I saw the first trailer for the game, all I could think about was Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath...

There are black people in New Orleans. Black people are not immune to the zombie virus (if they were that would be downright unfair to the other races...). Do the math. It's not some tongue in cheek mockery of what happened with Katrina, it's a zombie game.


The game that really inspired this blog entry was Ubisoft's "Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood." The game starts out with players assuming the role of Ray, a Confederate officer... the Confederacy, as far as I am concerned, wanted to keep their cheap slave labor and the like. I can not stand the Confederate flag... To me, the flag represents hate -- and offends me and many others to no end. [It] made me wonder how much research Ubisoft did for this game...

The Civil War was a story rich part of history, and if the game takes place in these times of great impact on so many lives, it should be in the game. I'd also like to point out that being in the Confederate military wasn't always voluntary, and regardless of that, an otherwise villainous character can have protaganistic characteristics that can allow for a somewhat heroic portrayal in a story.


As a minority, had the South won, I wouldn't be in this position I am today...

They would have been conquered by Mexico in a few weeks and begging for the North to take them back, and that's really irrelevant to your points anyway.

 

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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'...Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans.'

 

 

Um.. so you are angry that some zombies are african american?

What?

What are the other options?

 

Either A) all zombies are african american, then you'd complain it was racist.

or B) no zombies were aftican american. Then youd complain it wasn't racist.

So the developers go with C) SOME zombies are african american (therefore accurately reflecting real life) and you complain its racist.

Please PLEASE enlighten me on what possible way the developers could have tackled this problem WITHOUT it apparently being racist. GOD im so SICK of ppl who see racism where there is none. GROW UP.

 

 

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 Don't listen its the Houston Chronicle. Both sides of the political spectrum in Houston thinks its editorals are stupid. Heck many of us stopped subscribing because it got so bad.

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We have noticed this ourselves. Methinks yon Chronicle doth need a swift kick in their foolish postierers.

 

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Re: Houston Chronicle: Is Racism Becoming a Norm in Gaming?

Well... they are a print publication after all. How much longer can they stand?

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 Trust me this newspaper is hated by all of us. We stopped subscribing when they printed a story about a dead servicemen after interviewing his family. They literally insulted the serviceman over and over in the article. The family was not happy. 

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What enrages me is that some times there is a genuine reason to take offense, but people like this cry wolf so often that when there is something that is genuinly racist, people disregard it the same way they do this.

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I agree.

 

What enrages me is that when racism is ever talked about, most of the time blacks jump into peoples minds as if they are the only race that is discriminated against.  Discrimination of any kind is bad in my book, be it against blacks, whites, women, men, or any others, but then we get people who take it to such extremes over stupid crap like this, and it makes real cases go unnoticed.

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I've run into a person who believed only white people were racist.  The irony of the statment was, of course, lost on him.

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Go to capital hill or the white house.  It's full of them these days.

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Can we say, Sonya Sotomayor supporters?

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No shit. It's fine for her to have made racist comments in the past, and she can be a supreme court justice, but if someone questions her comments, they're racist.  Yeah. 

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wow.. its only racist if you MAKE it racist for crying out loud.

i even made an off remark on welfare in one forum and someone IMMEDIATLY took it as a slur against black people... i NEVER brought race into it, i merely stated i hate welfare mongrels who leach off the system, as in ANYONE who does it without intent to get a job (my sister until recently was one such a-hole)

if you take it as racism then it becomes racism in your head. people need to stop looking for anything they can misconstrue and back off.

Cole in GoW is NOT racist just because he uses OLD slang... how that can even be racist i don't know, but theres a few things against it besides its a FICTIONAL character, theres also its a FICTIONAL world and real world terms of slang do NOT apply. maybe the makers felt more at ease with a less racial slurring slang as most of todays has a negative spin to a lot of its wording.

and out of HORDES of zombies in L4D2 SEVERAL are black? its racist because its set in new orleans and theres are only SEVERAL out of a HORDE of some 100+ zombies that are black?

ummm what again? whats wrong, there should be more black zombies? or is it just because there happen to be black zombies that its racist?

oye, the moment we all drop the "THATS RACIST!" accusations the better off we'll be... this is really getting outta hand lately.

next thing you know we'll hear its racist that theres only 1 black guy in DoA games and not so many either in other titles...

or is it only racist to include them? i'm lost now.

 

Edit: oh and BTW, how is it racist to set a game in a period whereing there was indeed heavy emphasis on racial slurring and such and continue to include period specific referances?

if removed isn't that the same as removing all mention of the same material from a book set in said period? school text books included?

why is it racist to merely depict a true enough past in a modern way?

IMHO its just a cry to erase and ignore, or leech and make cash off exploiting past issues and raise contraversy over something pointless so someone can cash in on a lawsuit over it by bringing it out.

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The problem with Cole is that he's a modernized version of the "Buck" stereotype, a big, strong, skilled black man who defies orders and is loud and boisterous.  His actions were stereotypical and often comedic, falling into another stereotype, that of the comedic black sidekick, existing for a good laugh, then disappearing before any trace of actual humanity are allowed to peek through.

I really wish that people would understand that RE5 wasn't about the zombies being black, nor was the protest against Left 4 Dead.  RE5 based nearly every enemy character on black stereotypes (with regards to facial composition), and even had the nerve to dress up the secondary character in a tribal outfit with bones around her neck.  This is without even mentioning that after a certain point, a majority of the attacking infected start wearing grass skirts and throwing spears.

This is not about zombies ethnicity.  This guy is being oversensitive, yes, I fully admit that he is.  He's trying to make a point about New Orleans being a bad choice for the game because of the disaster that still affects people every day, but still, it could have been done better.

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What makes me laugh are 12 year olds' who spew out homophobic comments and then, when they actually get a kill, go and hump their opponents face regardless of gender.

Ahhh.. The Hippocrisy of youth ;)

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 Yeah I never got that; I mean I would shit talk to people in Quake and UT but I don't ever remember the desire to run over and dry hump them.

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 I wouldn't choose to do that just because I'd get shot while mocking my kill. Then my killer would do the same thing to me and we'd have some sort of necrophilia spree going on.  

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Good god, Well I guess that this should have been expected especially in todays day and age where playing the racist card is your joker, trump, wild, beat all card. If you feel that an injustice has been placed upon you as a minority pull out the racist card and you win. Dave Chappelle had truth in jest when he did that skit.

Honestly whats with people today? Can anyone think critically anymore? Has it been completely removed from our education system since authoritans hate it when students question the authority of teachers?

I have not seen an answer from all these people claimming racisim on what will make this not racist. If you want to stop these so called racist attacks have a solution and make sure that solution is reasonable, not just reversing the racisim. I know that some will just want it to be Blacks killing white people and yeah your doing a great job their of stopping racism.

What next? We cant have Chinese Zombies in China being killed by a Japanese Protagonist since its to close the Rape of Nanking?

 


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Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

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I guess the fact there are black people in louisianna doesn't matter to him, and he wants every single zombie to be pure white as the driven snow.

 

Then he'd bitch that there were no black people in the game.

 

Racism goes both ways, buddy.

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But but but... they're zombies!  It would be irresponsible NOT to kill them!

Seriously, though, this guy has no understanding of perspective and probably just a slim grasp of social realities.  Whoever said it above is spot on - if they had made a zombie game set in New Orleans that didn't feature a good amount of black zombies, people like Jefferson would be crying foul over the lack of racial variety.  That he is immediately reminded of the aftermath of Katrina is his own issue, not mine or the developers.  There are a lot of horrible things that have happened in my lifetime that I am reminded of by pieces of popular culture.

I don't even want to go into the whole Call of Juarez issue.

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Ok. He's wrong. We can accept that, can't we? He's wrong, he's a moron, he's obscure and he's already been told off a large number of times. The fact is that he's reading too much into these games... which is stupid, on his part, but it's only cutting into his enjoyment and not anyone else's.

Racism is, at this point, almost exclusively in the eye of the beholder.

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Racism is not in the eye of the beholder.

I guess we got basic human rights, the ability to vote, and elected one black man to the Presidency...all's supposed to be good, right?

There are so many things wrong with this idea, and it's such a widely held view by people who are stuck in their self-normative viewpoints.  This is an assumption that needs to die.

Racism will still be around and identifiable until there are a few things changed (including but not limited to): the disparate conditions of living areas inhabited by minorities versus non-minorities, evolved redlining pricing and over-loaning keeping minorities out of decent housing, people using their latent biases to inflate prices of goods for minorities where possible, the misconduct committed by adversarial police squads that assume minorities are guilty before assessing the entire situation, the disproportionate number of minorities arrested and jailed for the same offenses that non-minorities are simply fined/ticketed/put on probation for, the quality of schools along with the quality of school supplied materials, the fact that it takes more effort to get a job if you don't have an "anglo" sounding name, and the list goes on and on.

It's not just gone because some people are tolerant.  Racism has had over 200 years to bake into nearly every structure in this country and it's not going to go away until it's talked about and actually acknowledged as a real problem.

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 Great xkcd comic and just like xkcd we can't leave it alone he's wrong dammit and he must be insulted and berated for it.

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 Its very simple you can only show black men as being well educated harvard profs that smoke a corn cob pipe and speak with the eleogant tongue of a man smitten with Shakespeare.  Any other repersentation is Racisit because you might imply they are not the pinnacle of human society and are just as normal as everyone else.

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These days your lucky to see a person like that of ANY race, so it'd fit since games are supposed to be about fantasy.

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One of the games that comes to mind is "Left 4 Dead 2." ...Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans. When I saw the first trailer for the game, all I could think about was Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath...

OH NO, STOP THE PRESSES, EVERYONE! SOME OF THE ZOMBIES IN LEFT 4 DEAD 2 ARE BLACK! Clearly this is an injustice to African-Americans everywhere. Let's all be outraged!
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As a minority, had the South won, I wouldn't be in this position I am today...

Actually the columnist would probalby be in a better position today if the south had won.

Slavery was on the way out one way or the other.. but the Civil war spawned so much bad blood and blame that blacks became a focus of all that rage.  Groups like the KKK would have been much weaker if there was not this whole meme connection humiliation and economic dispair with civil rights.

Not saying things would have been rosy, and it would have taken an extra generation or two to elimitate slavery.. and racism would not simply vanish.. but a lot of the fuel that took racism to such extremes would potentially not have been there.

A similiar parrell can be made in WWII... if not for humiliation of how WWI ended and the crushing economic policies on germany post WWI, anti-semitism would not had nearly as much energy behind it.

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 On top of that the civil war was not about slavery it was about state's rights to leave the union if the union doesn't repersent them anymore.  Since the states had polarized and the southern states couldn't get a dem elected they felt the union didn't repersent them anymore and they wanted out.  Lincoln made it about slavery in order to get support from the north because frankly he didn't want to go down as the president that destroyed the union but he couldn't get the north to support him because they agreed that the southern states had the right to leave if they wanted too.  In fact we probably would have seen much similar reactions if a Republican would have been elected instead of Obama in the Northern states (and Cali).

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Lincoln didn't make it about slavery.  Former slaves did.  They had stated that they'd fight for the Union if they abolished slavery.  The problem is there were a few Union states that still had slavery (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland and Missouri (wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_state)).  That's why the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free any slaves.  The way it was worded, it only applied to states not actively controlled by the Union, i.e. Confederate states.  Seeing as how the Confederacy didn't recognize the rule of the Union, it had no weight whatsoever.  The reason was that the union was afraid that if they did try to abolish slavery, they would cause the four slave states in the Union to seceed as well.

 

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"On top of that the civil war was not about slavery it was about state's rights to leave the union if the union doesn't repersent them anymore."

Considering the "state's rights" in question all had to do with slavery, to say the Civil War was mainly about "state's rights" is nothing more than rhetorical sleight of hand. I'm surprised you even bothered to trot out that silly canard.

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States' Rights was way more than slavery.  The U.S. Government was considering legislation to control the cotton industry to the chagrin of the states that actually produced it.  Considering they couldn't get a lot of support in Congress, they rebelled.  As I posted below, slavery was not even a secondary concern.

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Whatever other issues may have existed at the time, the prevailing motive for secesion was slavery. Far from being "not even a secondary concern", it was, in fact, the primary concern.

Quoting Wikipedia: "South Carolina did more to advance nullification and secession than any other Southern state. South Carolina adopted the 'Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union' on December 24, 1860. It argued for states' rights for slave owners in the South, but contained a complaint about states' rights in the North in the form of opposition to the Fugitive Slave Act, claiming that Northern states were not fulfilling their federal obligations under the Constitution. All of the alleged violations of the rights of Southern states were related to slavery."

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That blog seems to have earned its name well.  Game Hacks indeed.

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All I really have to say is wow... They're called "Video GAMES" for a reason.

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Serously? This guy is comlaning about racism in a zombie and historic game? Didn't we already settle this with RE:5?

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The only racism here is coming from Willie Jefferson. As a causasian women I am insulted by his insinuation that it is only proper for my race to get killed. One would hope that we lived in a world where all ethnicities are allowed an equally chance to be mowed down in a video game. *sigh*

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And the sad part is, if the game had the main character exclusively black, all the zombies caucasian and with every zombie he killed he yelled some phrase like "suck it cracka'!", the author would look at it and say "racism? what racism? I don't see any racism there".

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This has got to be either the largest troll ever or the biggest racist on the internet ever.

I need a few minutes (days probably) to gather the reasons why, because there was way too much stupidity in those TWO PARAGRAPHS that I just read.

Jesus Christ was that bad...(oh wait, I might offend people if I say Jesus >.>)

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What is it with black ZOMBIES being the only thing that people cry foul over?  Someone already listed a long number of games that you make vague claims of racism over, yet when they're zombies, all bets are off?  I think I'm missing something.

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Exactly how, in this mindset, would the racism be removed from L4D2 or RE5?  Would a depiction of New Orleans or Africa with ONLY white people be considered okay?

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No, then we'll all be racists for playing a game with no diversity or some such other bullshit.

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 People who want to be offended will always find a way to be offended.

I'm in the mindset that if I'm being attacked by zombies, I'm going to shoot whichever's closest.  Regardless of their skin colour.  I don't think people run around in the game only killing the black zombies and letting the white ones live.

In general, I think of people who call racism the same way I think of racists - Their behavior says more about them than who/what they're criticizing.

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I am disturbed by the growing trend of racist undertones that are cropping up in video games.

Which ones? The way people of every different skin color get treated in games equally?

One of the games that comes to mind is "Left 4 Dead 2." ...Set in New Orleans, players will have to fight their way through hordes of zombies - with several of them who appear to be African-Americans. When I saw the first trailer for the game, all I could think about was Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath...

This is a game about killing zombies, not a social commentary about Hurricane Katrina. Oh and the game takes place in other places in Louisiana as well.

The game that really inspired this blog entry was Ubisoft's "Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood." The game starts out with players assuming the role of Ray, a Confederate officer... the Confederacy, as far as I am concerned, wanted to keep their cheap slave labor and the like. I can not stand the Confederate flag... To me, the flag represents hate -- and offends me and many others to no end. [It] made me wonder how much research Ubisoft did for this game...

Now I may not be Southern, but I have some issues with your analysis. So you start out as a Confederate officer. Did you miss a certain game called The History Channel Civil War: A Nation Divided? You could actually play as a Confederate soldier. The Confederate flag also isn't a symbol of hatred to some. For those people, it is a sign of southern history. Did you ever stop to think that some people fought for the Confederates because the South was their home? They had families to feed and protect. But I guess every single person below the Mason-Dixon line had slaves.
 

As a minority, had the South won, I wouldn't be in this position I am today...

.............Thats irrelevent in my opinion.

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I was more angry with the Call of Juarez complaints. Even if the confederacy was evil (I think it was), is it necessarily bad to put the player in the point of view of one of it's soldiers. Like you said, not every southerner was a slave owner. Most were just fighting because they were were told to, or because they were tricked into believing that the North's goal was to deprive them of their homes, livelihoods, and guns (hey, look at that, things haven't really changed much).

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There were several reasons for the South trying to break off from the North. Lack of proper political representation, taxes that were viewed as unfair, slavery (although this didn't really become a major fighting point until the war was underway), and just overall dissatisfaction with how they were being represented in their nation. 

I find it funny that you compare mentality of Southerns Today with those of Yesteryear, especially when the Southern states are still pretty much shunned when it comes to public funds for education and urban growth. Of course, so are a lot Mid-western states.

Kind of off topic, but I remember reading about how the South tried to seceed when Andrew Jackson was in office. He told the people that made the threat that if they even considered it while he was in power he would personally march his forces down to their door step and hang each of them from the nearest tree.  Given his reputation, the South decided to be quiet until someone with a little less backbone and A LOT less crazy was in office.

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 Okay, why is this person complaining about a historically inspired videogame? That's along the lines of grasping straws.

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I feel inclined to call bullshit on this article. Now if it had come from the perspective of "racism rampant in video games online", then we may have had something there. Racial undertones in Left 4 Dead 2 because many persons are African American in the setting which is in New Orleans, a city with a large African American population? Are you serious?

This is about as legitimate of a claim as those who said Resident Evil 4 was racist against Mexicans. The ironic thing is that there is a large amount of people who actually believe they are killing Mexicans. Funny part about Resident Evil 4 is that they are Spaniards.

Resident Evil 5 got knocked for the imagery of Africans... in Africa?

Wouldn't surprise me if someone suddenly called Call of Duty: World at War racist against Japanese, Call of Duty xenophobic to Germans, and Call of Duty 4 racist to Middle Easterners.

But hey, while we're on a role with it, let's point out other things:

Wanted: Weapons of Fate; French xenophobia.

Gears of War; stereotypical black guy

Left 4 Dead; stereotypical black guy

Left 4 Dead 2; stereotypical black guy

Fallout 3; xenophobia, facism, overt racism, elitism

Grand Theft Auto 3; Racist to Italians because you kill Italian mobsters

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City; Okay, admittedly this one did encourage you to kill the Hatians just a little bit more strongly than any other racial group in the game.

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas; I don't even know where to begin

Grand Theft Auto 4; classic FOB eastern-european illegal immigrant.

Seriously, can we just look at a game for its artistic value for once? Next thing we know, someone will be saying "Six Days in Fallujah" violates National Security.


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mikedo2007

You forgot

 

Quantum of Solace: that game has Bond killing Black Soldier and a black leader.  So therefore James Bond is racist and he represent slavery and symbol of British making blacks slave (end sarcasm)

Why haven't this guy point out Quantum of Solace (both the game and the movie).  Somebody show him Live and Let Die and ask him "is this racist?"

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Generally speaking, I agree with you, but quite honestly, RE5 did screw the pooch.  I didn't believe it until I actually bought it and played it, but they quite literally put in probably the most offensive imagery they could have possibly come up with in response to the premature shitstorm that followed N'Gai Croal's initial commentary.

(The stuff Croal saw in the trailers was a poor basis for calling racism, and I believe the generic gaming community was right in objecting to his accusations.  Unfortunately, Capcom then went and released a game with plenty of other stuff that Croal hadn't seen...that happened to confirm his accusations, just not for the reasons he made them.  It's pretty sad.)

Inclusion of multiple races is good.  Inclusion of black zombies, in a zombie game, set in a place where the population consists largely of black people, is a good and right thing.  As long as the protagonists aren't shouting "Sweet!  Blew away another darkie!" when they get a headshot, I think we're okay.

 
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ZippyDSMleeConster:Some PSP games are 10-20$, you can buy a few then rip them yourself or find an ISO. The emu is PPSSPP.I'm I the only one that hates crisis core?10/31/2014 - 11:28am
ConsterZippy: uh, thanks? Don't know any PSP games, though.10/31/2014 - 10:10am
ZippyDSMleehttp://arstechnica.com/business/2014/10/fcc-reportedly-close-to-reclassifying-isps-as-common-carriers/10/31/2014 - 9:44am
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Neo_DrKefkaAnyone remember that portrait from Resident Evil 1 in the gallery about a Middle Aged man full of worries? Anyone know the name of that portrait?10/31/2014 - 12:45am
MechaTama31Yeah, don't see myself getting a Vita or a PSTV...10/31/2014 - 12:04am
E. Zachary KnightWatch Ultron ruin all your Disney childhood memories in this How The Ultron Teaser Should Have Ended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra1sBRLRFtc10/30/2014 - 9:23pm
ZippyDSMleeConster:they finally made a working worth while PSP emulator.10/30/2014 - 8:10pm
quiknkoldMechatama31, you can get VC2 on the Vita and Vita TV. you have to buy it through PSN on PS3 and transfer it to vita and then playstation tv. I have it on my PS TV and it works10/30/2014 - 7:15pm
MechaTama31I loved Valkyria Chronicles. Still super cheesed off that the sequels were PSP-only... :/10/30/2014 - 6:57pm
ConsterI played Steamworld Dig on the 3DS, and it's pretty fun.10/30/2014 - 6:51pm
Matthew WilsonRECOMMENDED: OS: Windows 7 Processor: Intel Core2 Duo @ 2.8GHz (or equivalent) Memory: 3 GB RAM Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 (or equivalent) Hard Drive: 25 GB available space10/30/2014 - 5:49pm
Matthew Wilsonhere hare the system requirements. make of ithem what you will. MINIMUM: OS: Windows Vista/Windows 7 Processor: Intel Core2 Duo @ 2.0GHz (or equivalent) Memory: 2 GB RAM Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 240 (or equivalent) Hard Drive: 25 GB available spa10/30/2014 - 5:48pm
Andrew EisenStill a game I really want to play. Hope it's a solid port.10/30/2014 - 5:42pm
Matthew WilsonValkyria Chronicles pc port needs 25ggb. not bad exept this game came out in 08 on the ps3.10/30/2014 - 4:56pm
james_fudgeEZK: my sarcasm senses are tingling ;)10/30/2014 - 4:21pm
Andrew EisenIf it's any consolation, Xbox owners, Wii U owners don't get the game at all. And if we did, we'd probably never get the DLC.10/30/2014 - 4:19pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://kotaku.com/destinys-new-dlc-kinda-screws-over-xbox-players-1652294153 Sucks when the shoe's on the other foot, huh.10/30/2014 - 4:12pm
E. Zachary KnightSo a vocational school in Oklahoma is being evacuated because someone found a briefcase in the bathroom. Imagine that. A briefcase ina school. That's unpossible.10/30/2014 - 3:33pm
prh99Also, Nintendo wants to watch you sleep..for Science! (*in best Cave Johnson voice) http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/10/nintendo-wants-to-watch-you-sleep-for-science/10/30/2014 - 2:47pm
 

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