Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

July 17, 2009 -

President Barack Obama has - yet again - referenced playing video games as a metaphor for underachievement.

[GP: click here for other recent examples, although Obama has made similar comments going back to at least 2006.]

In a speech in New York last night marking the 100th anniversary of the NAACP, Obama said:

We have to say to our children, Yes, if you’re African American, the odds of growing up amid crime and gangs are higher. Yes, if you live in a poor neighborhood, you will face challenges that someone in a wealthy suburb does not. But that’s not a reason to get bad grades, that’s not a reason to cut class, that’s not a reason to give up on your education and drop out of school. No one has written your destiny for you. Your destiny is in your hands - and don’t you forget that.

To parents, we can’t tell our kids to do well in school and fail to support them when they get home. For our kids to excel, we must accept our own responsibilities. That means putting away the Xbox and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour. It means attending those parent-teacher conferences, reading to our kids, and helping them with their homework...

 

It also means pushing our kids to set their sights higher. They might think they’ve got a pretty good jump shot or a pretty good flow, but our kids can’t all aspire to be the next LeBron or Lil Wayne. I want them aspiring to be scientists and engineers, doctors and teachers, not just ballers and rappers. I want them aspiring to be a Supreme Court Justice. I want them aspiring to be President of the United States.

BlackPoliticsontheWeb has the full text of Obama's speech. The Washington Post has coverage of the event, which it termed a "tough love message for [Obama's] fellow African-Americans." The New York Times called Obama's speech "a fiery sermon."

UPDATE: The Wall Street Journal took notice of our coverage - and of some comments by GP readers...


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

He's not insulting videogames.. sheesh... did you even read any of the threads above? 

 

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Yeah, sure he isn't.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

While im not a big fan of obamas political ideals or policies, i've never had any issue with the man personally. He's fairly likable and charismatic. A good speaker most of the time, and seems to think he's doing the right thing. I may disagree with his policies, but I normally can't fault the man personally.

This is a different matter. It's noble to want to encourage children to aim high and work hard. Thats an admirable thing. It's wrong however to be using games as a "BoogyMan" of sorts. THe game industry now makes more money on average then the Movie industry. Many of those currently in the industry were drawn there by games themselves.

Maybe instead of putting the blame for underachivment on Xboxs, he should focus his attention on the real problems.


Bad parenting.

Bad public schools.

The culture of victium hood that his party and previous democratic presidents, not to mention some republicans, have fostered in minorities.

It's typical of a politician. Blame anything but the government, yourself, or your party for the issues you have caused.

 

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Obama is so prejudiced.

Why does he ignore the PS3?

Oh right, because everyone does. Useless machine.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Putting away the tendency to sell oneself as a slave to the media and political hype could be beneficial too... but if that happened he'd never get re-elected... nor would any other politician.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I'd rahter have him say put away the rap music and ganster life style.....

 


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

And tell the kids to pull their damn pants up.  God.  When did it become cool for everybody to be able to see your London and France?  When I was a kid, anybody showing up dressed like that would've gotten everything pulled down on 'em.

God I sound old...  Think I'll go play my 2600.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Its a good way to beat them to the prank. pull my pants down? my pants are already down.

so whats the prank now? pull my pants up?


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

The analogy  for pedophiles is right on the head.

Murder is not an absolute(and I am still trying to get my head around how rape can not be an absolute), ergo its not always done in cold blood, one of the most important things about abortion is they treat the unborn as a separate life when it is merely an extension of the mother, if the mother dose not want it it treuly is like cutting youer hair,ect, yes there is a ton of personal baggage that goes with it, but tis personal not something society should dictate on whims. IMO its not that contradictory to say the individual can have an abortion but if that individual is killed the one who killed them may be held respounceable for 2 deaths and not one, the diffrance the unborn is wanted and thus respected as a separate life. IMO abortion is a personal right that just not be easily tread upon,there needs be no ryme or reason just a reasonable level of respounceability to the proseiger  to me tis up their with you own your property and no one should have the right to make you move or sale unwillingly, unless of coarse the owner is given a cut of all profits made off that property, 10% to the owner every time its sold or whatever it brings in should be fair compensation, this would mean industry and government would be forced to share millions with the common land owner.

Don't forget if a minor takes nude pictures of them selfs its like they are not pedos......
Minors are treated like children until their behavior crosses an unreasonable line then adults go apesht because logic and reason are to annoying to be upheld.....

We really need a baseline top down mandate, consensual sex starts at 16, statutory rape at 13(with the way hormones in beef and milk age teens it might have to be 12) Rape at anything below that and automatic labeling of sex offender for 2 years if there is no sign of them being a repete offender.

People make mistakes its not worth branding the many as sub human to protect a few who make mistakes as well, the balance needs to allow people to make mistakes without branding them, unless their is true villainy involved.

AS far as child porn/pedophilia is concerned I think we are focusing on the wrong things, distribution is the least worrisome link in the chain producers are the ones that need to be treated as felons of the highest level, yes death penalty and life imprisonment for cases that involve the production of child pron, minors involved should get a pass but not a super clean record depending on circumstance, victims of course should be treated with care and protected as much as possible while adults involved get the absolute maxiaim. Back to distribution, I do not think owning/recivieing/sharing it as much of a problem selling should be equatable with producing it, so you can say that clubs that trade it may well be trading money if thats the case then they are in essence producing it.  This way you hamper it greatly without harming the rights of the masses, as for pictures of the victim being destroyed,removed,ect I think like copy right tis a lost cause where both the individual  and government has any real teeth to make it disappear, I can;t help but think having a non profit group as a IP repersentive of the victims would have more bite but perhaps I am over thinking it.

Of course it will never happen as people are too illogical and it will only hit them when parents who have pictures of their kids are labeled as sex offenders, which we see rare cases of these days and it will only get worse as they try to make it an absolute....

 


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Zippy, this is not an article about sex crimes. Please stay on topic.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

GP

My bad the long sig totally threw me off. BTW When did we get long sigs? 0_o

 


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I hope you know your responding to my signature.

And thank you for doing what I hope, which is to start people to think critically.


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Critical thinking is not soemthing humanity dose well, and yes I put it out to force people to think, that is the essance of my long winded posting, I might suck as a writer in any sense of the trem. But I would at elast hope that soem of the crap I say forces soem to rethink thier opinoins some.


I am a criminal because I purchase media,I am a criminal because I use media, I am a criminal because I chose to own media..We shall remain criminals until Corporate stay's outside our bedrooms..


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Totally 100% agree with the last part of your sig. If a 14 year old can get a life sentence for killing a person, why can't they responsibly have sex with someone that they willingly want to?

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Because pedophilia is a crime, just like murder.  Also, in cases where a fourteen-year-old is having sex with an older person, they aren't charged with anything because it isn't they who broke the law.

As far as the murder cases go, it's not like every teenager who kills somebody gets the chair.  It's the ones where there's no way anyone thinking like a child would have done it.  Murder cases hinge on "mindset."  If you felt threatened, it was self defense, even if the guy was sleeping face down and you had the only weapon in the house.  You felt uncontrollable rage, it's murder 1 and you're an adult, no matter how old you are, because children aren't supposed to know rage.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

The problem is(and I know I am posting out of order but bear with me) pedophilia is no longer defined as ckildern, once it became tacted onto teens it throws the whole deffnistion out of balance making things worse IMO.

Minor sex needs to be balanced out in the law as somthing thats not zero tolerance, becuse like muder its not an absolute.

 

If you want to disscuss this futher come to teh forums.


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

No, I agree with you.  I'm just pointing out the thought process behind current legal precedent.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I think it was a very wierd article today but, Microsoft commented today over Obama's stupid move

“We agree with President Obama that it’s a time for families to work together so that kids use media in ways that are safe, healthy and balanced,” a Microsoft spokesman said in response. “Xbox 360 is the only console gaming system that has a timer feature allowing parents to set time limits for their kids, as well as parent controls to enable parents to set limits on what their kids are playing and watching.”

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Can we just get this out of the way: Obama is not black. He is half black. Half negro. He is not African-American either, because he does not come directly from Africa (like how I don't call myself a Polish-American just because my ancestors are from Poland).

Regardless of his race anyways, it is 100% irrelevant to his presidency and how competent he is as a president. However, I saw much more pro-Obama racism than anti-Obama racism during his election. When 95% of blacks and less than 50% of whites vote for Obama, I see a large amount of serious racism here. This is an issue that is touchy at best and suicidal at worst, because it's not easy to tell the black community to quit being racist.

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I think you're confusing nationality with race.

Obama is as African-American as you can get.  His father was African and his mother was American.  In terms of race AND nationality he's African American.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

By race, no. "African" is not a race, because Egyptians, while African, were not negro. but you are right as far as nationality goes. Still, the 95% of blacks that voted for him are almost entirely American, not African-American. They voted for him BECAUSE he was half negro, which is incredibly racist.

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

While he was addressing the NAACP in this case, it's important to remember that Pres. Obama has made similar comments on numerous occasions, and not always to African-American groups.

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I thought it was funny when it was down to Obama and Clinton in the primaries, because if you voted Obama you were sexist and if you voted Clinton you were racist.  All of this from the political party in America claiming they were "tolerant."

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Not that I voted for any of those arseholes, but if I had been allowed to vote, I'd rather have some people think I was racist or sexist than vote for McCain and have everyone know I was a complete nutter.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Last Election there was not much to choose from. With Clinton, Obama and McCain whoever won a Democrat would come out victorious. McCain is not popular as a conservative why people thought he could win, I don’t understand why people decided to go ahead and support McCain in the first place.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I already know that Obama is Half black(non-hispanic) and half white to begin with, I was just waiting for someone to point that out

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

 

Obama is going to have a public speech today on all TV Channels. Basically Moderate Democrats are refusing to back him or Pelosi. So he must get on TV to make a point

He is asking the Democratic Majority to continue to commit political suicide by screwing up the economy and not reading bills and passing legislation that would never see the light of day. With all Levels of Government admitted the stimulus failed and we as the United States are going into bankruptcy ourselves we need the 2010 elections to come sooner.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

LOL

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

"Put away the XBox...except when my campaign ads are running on it, then you go right ahead and keep on gaming"

The exact same message of parental responsibility and not letting kids stay up all night would have been achieved by simply replacing "Xbox" with "TV", but the fact he chose not to go that route just continues to show up his anti-gaming bias. which is just sad really. I don't think his singling out of the Xbox Vs any other game system is the issue here, it's more his constant equating of gaming with laziness, far more so than any other medium.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I don't think it's so much a matter of anti-game bias, as overplaying a hot-button issue.

Ten years ago, he would have been saying TV.

I find that fact more interesting in a way, that if you wound back time ten years, the hardware would change, the President would change, even the political orientation of the Whitehouse would change, but the rhetoric really wouldn't.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

People no he is your lord and savior, people are questioning the one! I know his polling numbers are dropping Jimmy Carter style but come on! Let us support the Messiah in his showing off his Community Organizing!

I mean, yeah he spent more then any other President but he can't be worse then that Door to Door Bible Salesmen or Peanut farmer Jimmy Carter, can he?

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

And conservatives wonder why they viewed as being "so fucking stupid that using the word retard to describe them would be an insult to retards inbred piles of shit" 


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I suddenly felt a disturbance in the force, as though hundreds of Wall Street Journal readers said 'Who on Earth is this Nutball?'

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Funny I think I hear conservatives/repubicans saying Obama is lord and savior more then non repubs/conservatives but thats just me. However, don't assume I am a fan of Obama, I didn't vote for either Obama or McCain. Anyway whats wrong with the stimulas plans(sure some have been sloppy)? Its bascially what the US did to get out of the great depression by stimulating World War 2 (all that huge defense spending stimulated the economy). Why can't we stimulate the economy, but skip the world war this time? Then again, these arguments come from the same people who don't want the gov't to run a lemonade stand and yet trust it to run a war.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

The only industry where you'd be able to spend enough money to truly stimulate the economy is the national defense budget, but Dems don't want to fight.  They think that we shouldn't have a military, and any time a military man or woman shoots somebody, congressional hearings have to be had in order to make sure that the person who shot that military person was ACTUALLY the enemy.  Iraq and Afghanistan could have been over years ago if the miltary was not hogtied by Congress and actually allowed to fight.  As far as the stimulus package goes, it would only have been effective if that money went into industrial complexes and to small businesses.  Instead, it went to state health care and unemployment.  States are using the money to fix their own budgets instead of investing it into programs.

Maybe Obama should have thought that might happen BEFORE agreeing to it.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Maybe it just me but I would much rather Obama (or any politican) to say "Hey...taking a break from the Xbox (or other game system) is good to do" then going to the worse step and starting to ban certain types of games, and adding regulations.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

He's arguing for the same thing we are here, Parental Responsibility.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Good point.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Hmmm playing too many video games while in school can cause lower grades..AGREE.  OBAMA has it correct ladies and gents.  He is telling parents to be parents and help kids, rather then ignore them and allow them to be raised by the TV/Game machine.

If you are upset that he is saying video games cause underachievment; you may wish to rethink your life style, and get a job.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Actually, he doesn't.  In fact, neither he nor you have any factual evidence to provide that merely playing video games cause lower grades, let alone lower intelligence.

Doing ANYTHING other than prescribed school work will, logically, hurt your grades as not doing the schoolwork means that a value added to a formula to result in a grade for a class is missing.  It does NOT, however, directly result in a lower intelligence in any particular subject matter OR prove evidence that, had the student DONE the schoolwork, they would have been more capable of specializing in any particular subject matter.  Not all individuals have the same interests in subject matters and, as such, may not be able to receive the same level of competency in that subject matter that a student who DOES have an interest in that subject matter may have.

It is misleading to imply that the fault of a lower grade is because of an interest in any other activity.  Putting effort into doing the schoolwork, in addition to putting effort into OTHER activities, might allow the student to perform better in the formula rating that are grades, but that will not absolutely mean that the student will be more or less competent in the subject matter that others students may be.

It is more important for Parents to encourage:

Diversity in interests.

Moderation, which goes along with diversity.

Putting an effort into doing assigned work, even if the subject matter is of little interest as the very act of merely putting an effort into an assigned job is the same as putting effort into other activities.  And building a habit of of performing assigned tasks which will follow into adulthood when the child becomes employed in any field.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Well Nightwng2000 I never said it would cause IQ or intelligence to drop. I merely stated that playing to many games as a kid can hurt your grades. As you stated "Doing ANYTHING other than prescribed school work will, logically, hurt your grades".

IMO it does not matter whether the child is interested in the subject or not. Not spending time studying the subject and doing the homework given by the teachers, will of course lower the child's grade. Unless the student is a genius of sorts, can does not need to do the prescribed homework, but I do not think Obama is speaking about those kids.

If somehow, playing Madden, GTA, CoD, or numerous other popular games, "might allow the student to perform better in the formula rating that are grades" then sign me up!

Getting parents to help with their kids schooling, and lives in general is one of the best things that could happen to this country.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Again, you twist meaning and send off large amounts of smoke screens.  Really, I wonder if I can sue for harm done to me by all the 2nd hand smoke inhalation from all the smoke screens.

You AND Mr. Obama both equate grades, a formula system not actually representative of knowledge but of performance, to knowledge and general competency.

The point to my statement about doing ANYTHING other than the prescribed work is the point that grades are based on performing the tasks, not knowledge of the task.

Nor does one have to be a genius in any field to understand the work presented.  Depending on the individual, they may avoid the work because of it being very difficult or only slightly more difficult and being embarrased to admit such.  Or, they may be familiar with the specific work presented to them and not consider the work of interest or value.  They don't have to understand the presented work plus 2 or 3 grade levels higher.  They may merely have grasped the information quicker and consider the work to be of no value to them, not realizing that just doing the work is of some value to the school and others. 

Nor at any point did I imply that playing a video game, let alone watching a TV show, reading Science Fiction, keeping up with the celebs in a Teen magazine, or reading the Bible religiously day in and day out would improve or even support skills and information being taught in the school.

Cutting out hobbies and interests and require kids to do nothing but school work (including cutting out any number of leisure time things that YOU may find enjoyable because, after all, it doesn't teach them anything other than to enjoy themselves) creates a stressful environment which ALSO leads to failing grades, as well as a number of other personality problems.

After all, Mr. Obama put down rappers as being less than worthy goals.  So, let's elimiate all forms of arts within the schools.  Let's also eliminate all forms of sports (not to be confused with eliminating PE classes as they may promote a somewhat healthy exercise program) because, after all, being in sports, especially professional sports, is no where near the value that being a scientist or doctor is.  Don't forget to eliminate all extracurricular activities as well.  They provide nothing of value that will help them become valued members of the hard working society.

No, I'm not exaggerating or going over the top.  You can't eliminate and condemn one activity without eliminating and condemning a great many others.  He's already talked down at people over their race.  He's talked down to people over their own personal choices for leisure time interests.  He's already talked down to people over their value in the social scale such as their financial class.  He's screwed himself and now he has to live with the results.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

To be honest, I don't find anything "anti games" about what he says here. I don't think he is using an Xbox as a metaphor for underachievement, but just as a catch-all, cultrurally relevant example of what a lot of kids do instead of studying.

He could have said "That means putting away the board games/switching off the cartoons/blowing the whistle on the court and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour." and put forward the same intentions. Saying Xbox doesn't mean he thinks that video games are the solitary cause of academic underperformance. If he had said "We need to put away the hoop and stick" he would have been ridiculed as woefully out of touch with today's youth.

In my opinion, his speech was more against lazy, irresponsible parents who don't actively encourage their kids to study than video games. He is not telling the parents "Don't ever let your kids play an xbox or they'll end up dumb.". He is saying that you have to stand up and set limits for your kids in order to help and support them with their education.

If even one parent takes this advice to heart and sets reasonable limits on gameplay for their child, and that child goes on to a good education, this speech has been a success.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

"That means putting away the Xbox and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour."

This combination with the AND in it implies that a limit on play time should be set.  It would similarly exist if he said "That means putting away the Xbox and get our kids to do their homework".  It doesn't immediately state two seperate exclusive ideas of "putting the xbox away" alone, implying never play it at all and "going to bed at a reasonable hour.  It reads far closer to a combined thought.

That being said, I recognized his racist attitudes before he was voted in and now, more and more, he's showing a racist view.

This nonsense about "cultural differences" being brought up is also more bullpucky.

1.  ANYONE, regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion (or lack thereof), or other grouping can be poor, reasonably well off, or rich.  ANYONE can live in a terrible neighborhood or an affluent one, barring the intentional segregationist attitudes of those already in the neighborhood, and YES, it CAN come from ANY group.  ANYONE can be in gangs or be popular or infamous.  This bullpucky about segregating and claiming that it's worse when it's one subcatagory within a group (a specific race, a specific gender, etc) is just garbage.  You DON'T solve the problem by segregating out select subcatagories of individuals and claiming you should only help THAT subcatagory rather than EVERYONE who is affected by the problem.  Even if you solved it for one subcatagory, the problem STILL exists. 

2.  This garbage about striving to be better than someone else, especially in the manner in which it is constantly delivered, is just as bigotted?  Everyone should strive to be the bast.  But the bast at what they, the individual, are capable of.  Not what someone else preceives is a better ability over all other abilities.  If your strengths lie in being an artist, how is that being something less than being a scientist or doctor?  If your strengths are in your physical capabilities, how is doing ANY form of manual labor being less than being a highly respected business owner?  Whether it's striving to be the best at entertaining others through competition (professional sports), or entertaining others in general (musician, painter, writer of books), You should NOT have to suffer the disrespect of others whose efforts are put into other areas.  Moreover, there are MANY jobs where individuals treat, or are treated, in a negative manner because of the nature of the job being stereotypically viewed as negative by society.  Yet, those very individuals who look down on those positions make use of such workers as if they couldn't do the jobs themselves.  Maybe Mr. Obama just isn't competent enough to be a garbage man... excuse me, SANITATION WORKER... or a fast food business employee, or a waiter at a restaurant or able to drive his own vehicle, or hundreds of other jobs that many DO excel at which HE apparently did not strive to excel at himself.  Maybe HE isn't as good as THEM after all.  Certainly, many of us don't choose those paths, but look down on those individuals who do?  Bite me you bigotted piece of guttertrash.  THEY are far more important to my day to day life than YOU ever will be.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

For me there was nothing about Obama's past and current statments that really attacked video game, he just telling parents to be parents. That being said he should lay off the games for a bit.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Don't forget that he offered praise for RE-mission last week (LINK), a game to help kids with cancer. So, not all of his comments on games are in a somewhat negative vein.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Maybe what we really need is better TV.. or at least inspiring TV.

Hear me out.

One thing I find as a recurring meme among older (boomer) scientists and engineers is many of them were inspired by star trek.  Specificly it was a show that from time to time put brainy people in the center stage, made them heroes.

One of the problems facing the black community is it's selection of well publisized hereos.  You generally have people who made it rich (the classic meme being rappers and sports stars) and that is about it.  Other models exist (for instance, Colin Powel) but they are not really focused on.

Having more media that contains intellegent black characters that solve problems with brainpower rather then threat/muscle, and are praised for saving the day, would probably go a long way twoards giving children the idea to look into other models.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Colin Powell doesn't sell millions of dollars in albums each year. Having kids look up to someone who is actually a decent role model isn't a profitable venture, so you're probably not going to see the media pushing kids to give up idolizing the rappers and sports starts anytime soon.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I've been inspired by Stargate SG-1 to pursue more things in science and math, definitely.

On a different note, black kids shouldn't look to other black people for inspiration, they should look to other smart/successful people for inspiration, black or otherwise.

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Andrew EisenHence the "Uh, yeah. Obviously."09/02/2014 - 12:53am
SleakerI think Nintendo has proven over the last 2 years that it doesn't.09/02/2014 - 12:31am
Andrew EisenSleaker - Uh, yeah. Obviously.09/01/2014 - 8:20pm
Sleaker@AE - exclusives do not a console business make.09/01/2014 - 8:03pm
Papa MidnightI find it disappointing that, despite the presence of a snopes article and multiple articles countering it, people are still spreading a fake news story about a "SWATter" being sentenced to X (because the number seems to keep changing) years in prison.09/01/2014 - 5:08pm
Papa MidnightAnd resulting in PC gaming continuing to be held back by developer habits09/01/2014 - 5:07pm
Papa MidnightI find it disappointing that the current gen of consoles is representative of 2009-2010 in PC gaming, and will be the bar by which games are released over the next 8 years - resulting in more years of poor PC ports (if they're ever ported)09/01/2014 - 5:06pm
Andrew EisenMeanwhile, 6 of Wii U's top 12 are exclusive: Mario 3D World, Nintendo Land, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Wonderful 101, and ZombiU. (Wind Waker HD is on the list too but I didn't count it.)09/01/2014 - 4:36pm
Andrew EisenLikewise, only two of Xbox One's top 12 are exclusive: Dead Rising 3 and Ryse: Son of Rome (if you ignore a PC release later this year).09/01/2014 - 4:34pm
Andrew EisenNot to disrespect the current gen of consoles but I find it telling that of the "12 Best Games For The PS4" (per Kotaku), only two are exclusive to the system: Infamous: Second Son and Resogun.09/01/2014 - 4:30pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/09/01/beyond-two-souls-ps4-trophies-emerge-directors-cut-reported/ MMM MMM, nothing quire like reheated last gen games to make you appreciate the 400 bucks you spent on a new console.09/01/2014 - 4:24pm
Andrew EisenThat's actually a super depressing thought, that a bunch of retweeters are taking that pic as an illustration of the actual issue instead of an example of a complete misunderstanding of it.09/01/2014 - 4:20pm
Andrew EisenObviously, the picture was created by someone who doesn't understand what the issue actually is (or, possibly, someone trying to satire said misunderstanding).09/01/2014 - 4:10pm
Papa MidnightPeople fear and attack what they do not understand.09/01/2014 - 4:04pm
Papa MidnightWell, let's not forget. Someone held their hand in a peace sign a few weeks ago and people started claiming it was a gang sign. Or a police chief displayed the hand signal of their fraternity and was accused of the same.09/01/2014 - 4:04pm
SleakerEither people don't understand that what the picture is saying is true, or the picture was created out of a misunderstanding of what sexism is.09/01/2014 - 3:52pm
Sleaker@AE ok yah that's where the kind of confusion I'm getting. Your tweet can be taken to mean two different things.09/01/2014 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenSleaker - No. No, not even remotely. The pic attached to my tweet was not made by me; it's not a statement I'm making. It's an illustration of the complete misunderstanding of the issue my tweet is referring to.09/01/2014 - 3:13pm
Papa MidnightIn other news, Netflix states why it paid Comcast: http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/29/technology/netflix-comcast/index.html?hpt=hp_t209/01/2014 - 3:10pm
Papa MidnightAndrew Eisen: Sites like Tumblr make things seem much bigger than they are. A vocal extreme minority start complaining and things go as they do.09/01/2014 - 3:09pm
 

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