Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

July 17, 2009 -

President Barack Obama has - yet again - referenced playing video games as a metaphor for underachievement.

[GP: click here for other recent examples, although Obama has made similar comments going back to at least 2006.]

In a speech in New York last night marking the 100th anniversary of the NAACP, Obama said:

We have to say to our children, Yes, if you’re African American, the odds of growing up amid crime and gangs are higher. Yes, if you live in a poor neighborhood, you will face challenges that someone in a wealthy suburb does not. But that’s not a reason to get bad grades, that’s not a reason to cut class, that’s not a reason to give up on your education and drop out of school. No one has written your destiny for you. Your destiny is in your hands - and don’t you forget that.

To parents, we can’t tell our kids to do well in school and fail to support them when they get home. For our kids to excel, we must accept our own responsibilities. That means putting away the Xbox and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour. It means attending those parent-teacher conferences, reading to our kids, and helping them with their homework...

 

It also means pushing our kids to set their sights higher. They might think they’ve got a pretty good jump shot or a pretty good flow, but our kids can’t all aspire to be the next LeBron or Lil Wayne. I want them aspiring to be scientists and engineers, doctors and teachers, not just ballers and rappers. I want them aspiring to be a Supreme Court Justice. I want them aspiring to be President of the United States.

BlackPoliticsontheWeb has the full text of Obama's speech. The Washington Post has coverage of the event, which it termed a "tough love message for [Obama's] fellow African-Americans." The New York Times called Obama's speech "a fiery sermon."

UPDATE: The Wall Street Journal took notice of our coverage - and of some comments by GP readers...


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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I've been inspired by Stargate SG-1 to pursue more things in science and math, definitely.

On a different note, black kids shouldn't look to other black people for inspiration, they should look to other smart/successful people for inspiration, black or otherwise.

-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

In some ways saying that black kids shouldn't look to other black people to inspiration is slowing crossing the line over to "black kids should learn to be something other than black."  It's a great way to get kids to hate themselves for something they can't control.  

As much as kids should be able to find positive inspiration anywhere, we have to let kids know that being themselves is not bad undesirable.  That's why it's important for minority kids to have role models they can look up to that come from very similar backgrounds.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

And while we are at it why don't you get Sasha and Melia to realize that Spongebob isn't funny anymore?

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

The last news item I saw where someone put away their XBox, their kid stabbed 'em.  Seems like a risky endeavor.

Obama is riding television's dick soo hard

Seriously. Why is all of the focus on video games and not TV? At the very least videogames are better for cognitive processes than tv. It seems to me that because he had so much help getting elected by the media that he cannot speak against them now. This quid pro quo routine is getting a little rediculous. Secret backroom IP treaties that we can't hear about because of "national security". (Really so we have no hope of ever appealing DMCA. They are simply making it so that in order to get rid of the DMCA we would have to change international law) Discouraging other forms of entertainment whilst ignoring television. Appointing RIAA lawyers to high positions of political power. Obama has proven to me that he's just like every other politician. It's a shame too because I had such high hopes for him.

Re: Obama is riding television's dick soo hard

Actually, he usually says television as well.  This is the first time that I've heard him mention only games.

Usually it's something like "turn off the tv, put away the videogames". 

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Well if the President goes on to say the Xbox targets poor people that pretty much chronicles it as a mainstream fact.  No reason to attack PS3 owners because they generally are more educated or have money.  There I said it!

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

It's kind of hard to argue with someone suggesting that letting your kids stay up all night playing games might have an adverse effect on their education.  I know Obama has equated gaming with laziness on other occasions, but this doesn't quite seem like one of those times to me.  This time it seems to be more about keeping them from doing it excessively, at the cost of getting homework done or getting adequate sleep.  Sounds reasonable enough.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Ya, that is what I was going to say. This is very mild compared to some of his other stuff.


Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

It´s official: I hate him.

He can´t dictate what he wants to children what to be. It´s America, not the communist Rusia. Is not his choice and nobody else.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Seriously?

He wants people to aspire to be something beside a rapper and a basketball player? What the fuck is wrong with that?

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

How is he so sure all black kids want to be rappers? How he knows if many of those kids will actually be rappers or basketball players?

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

He's merely asking parents to parent, and to help their kids achieve whatever they wish to be in the future.  He's saying that the government and other sources can only do so much to help kids, parents to do something as well to help their kids succeed.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Not really. He is saying what he wants the children to be, no whatever they wish to be. Life can take them almost everywhere, not necesarily to be rappers or scientists. Obama doesn´t have the right to impose his views on children because he doesn´t know what they are gonna to decide.

Videogames should not be the target of underarchivement metaphores. They could be as inspiring as Star Trek and other TV shows were for many children today are or scientifics or space ingenniers or even writers.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Do you have a clue as to why these kids want to be rappers and ballers in the first place?

Big rappers tend to lead a glamorous life style that sits very well with the materialism that permeates American culture today.

Everyone thinks that they are immune to the messages that the media pushes out, but none of us are.

To me its just another version of what you would see in small coal mining towns in the Virginia's back in the day. You are never going to leave this town with just a good education but you might make it out on a sports scholarship.

Many of these kids internalize the attitude that they will never leave the hood because they did well in school. Unless they become a rapper or an athlete, for inner city kids, the sport is basketball.

I hate to break it to you, there are only so many rappers and ballers in the world.

But who cares, fuck obama for wanting kids to aspire to be something more, something better. Fuck obama for wanting parents to give their kids something more to aspire too, he is just being a fucking communist because he wants people to improve themselves and rise above their circumstances.

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Sorry if I made you anger, but I keep with my opinion. I know a rapper is not the most productive socially speaking, but there are worst things that singing rap. Politicians, for example.

Rappers can give messages about glamorous life style, but politicians have the power to screw everybody, and they are supposed to serve the people, but instead, they serve their own interest.

I would say to Obama to stop blaming Xbox for social problems. That´s the only message he is giving, and is misleading and a waste of time.

School problems needs social improvement programs, not less Xbox.

 

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

A lot of kids get deluded from idolizing superstars. While it's fine to aspire to be like them, the delusion comes from the fact that most of these kids have their priorities fucked up. Rap stars get their flashy jewelry and nice cars AFTER becoming successful. Kids copy them by spending (or more likely financing) expensive rims to put on their old beaters while still holding McDonald's jobs. Most don't have the ability to pick themselves up to fit the industry they want to be... The work that goes into being famous doesn't interest them- they just like the IDEA of being famous. They are confusing the goal with the means.

Bill Cosby said the same things about raising kids countless times. But since it is the President that said it this time, it's suddenly a suggestion for draconian laws?

GameSnooper

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

How much kids are deluded? How many children forget about those things and go after more realistic goals?

The problem are not pop stars or rappers. The problem is a broken educational system that doesn´t give a damn about children. I know is not in every school, but nobody can´t blame TV or games for that.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Let's not forget the other elephant in the room; inner city black culture.  You know, the culture that frowns upon academic success, but looks favorably upon things like racism, homophobia, and common thuggery.  The culture that frowns upon an honest days work, but approves of drug dealing and stealing and welfare fraud.  Yeah, that's a culture that's destroying itself.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Austin, you're pushing the boundaries with this one. There are numerous factors in the poor urban districts which contribute to crime and other social ills. There are lots & lots of decent people in those areas.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Have you been to a poor urban district lately?  There's not 'lot's and lot's' of decent people in Chicago.  There's not 'lot's and lot's' of decent people in Over The Rhine or Price Hill in Cincinnati.  There's a few decent people, and a large number of others who try to get by the same way that Madoff did; at the expense of others.

By the way, glorifying, say, acts of violence against cops, violence, drug dealing, other illegal methods of getting things you want that whole 'no snitching' bullshit, etc, etc, doesn't make the poor urban community any better off.  And pretending that doesn't happen helps NO ONE.

Hell, Obama even hit on one of the problems in his speech; poor parental involvement.  It doesn't matter if you work two jobs, you can still find five minutes when you get home to check your child's homework for completion.  It's about time he get something right.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Thats also the community that Obama is trying to hit over the head with this speach. Its the kids in that area who are self destructive by having this mentality of "Gang, Rap or Bball career is the only way out of here". A boy who comes from a Rich or middle class black family will probally have enough commen sense to know to stay in school and try to be the best they can be.

 

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

How many black kids are still stuck in their shitty ass ghetto house because their rap career never took off and they figured they would drop out of school by age 13 because Bball or singing would net them cash and fame?

 

I'd say more then the white kid who starts a band in highschool and realizes its not going to get him anywhere by the time he hits grade 12.

 

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Obama isn't proposing a law, he isn't signing a law, and he isn't supporting a law. He isn't screwing anybody, for the moment at least.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Maybe, but his speech is still misleading, blaming a toy for parental incompetence, poverty and non-related social issues.

People with an agenda will use his words as ammunittion to keep pushing anti-videogame legislation. And persons like Jack Thompson will still be here trolling the internet and mocking about death and violence.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

"Putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour"

Maybe I'm misinterpreting that statment, but it seems like he is telling parents to do their jobs right there.

"Jack Thompson will still be here trolling the internet and mocking about death and violence."

Well I'm just exstatic to finnally find out that Obama is at fault for the behavior of jack thompson. I am so glad that I now how a suitable target to aim my frustration with the behavior of jack thompson at. I mean I've just never gotten over him, I'll be angry with him to my grave. I mean, I didn't get over jack about the time he got disbarred, I have paid complete and total attention to him since then, but I don't have to care about jack anymore because now I can blame Obama for Jack. Oh yeah, I'm finnally free cause I can blame Obama for everything that is wrong in this world. I mean people weren't completely batshit about things before obama.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

The only thing people will get from Obama is "pssst, blame this guy" and keep pointing a Xbox, and that´s is what I´m talking about.

As somebody said some post ago (or futher), 10 years ago was TV to blame for everything, and now Obama is on the band-wagon of blaming games because parents don´t want to do their job and expect the goverment with a solution for everything.

Because it´s easy. Games are the enemy, the real problem, not lazy-ass parents or a broken school system with teachers who don´t give a fuck about children.

Different persons, different media, same retarded issue.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Maybe because Obama might actually be right? Maybe kids should put away the Videogames once and awhile and study and get a proper nights sleep? How is that wrong? 

I'm also wondering why GP keeps saying he's comparing Xbox to underachiving. I dont see anywhere in that speach he compares the two. He's using Videogames as a generalization of all types of Media...be it TV, Music whatever... Videogames are just the "IT" thing now and so thats the current generalization, it used to be TV, then it was Music and Comicbooks... things change over time.. Videogames is just the new broad generlization of what kids play with these days. And I completely agree that parents should limit the videogame playing and make their kids study to be whatever they want to be, but also let their children know that basketball players and rap artists are not the only careers a Black man can do in this world.

I Think Obama is saying all the right things and doing what any white president couldnt do without being run outta office for being racist. He's challenging the black community to better themselves.

 

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

 How is he imposing his views on the children in this speech?  He's not enacting any laws to force children to be scientists, he's suggesting what he wants.  You're right, the children can be whatever they want and this speech isn't going to change that.  I think you're exaggerating the influence this speech has over parents and kids.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Ask people who will take his words literally. Or ask people like Jack Thompson who will be pushing against videogames and gamers because Obama´s words.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

This seems to be contrary to his 100 year anniversary NAACP speech, where he said that there were still barriers.  Just saying, I thought we were still keepin them down yesterday, so I don't see how THEY can write their own destiny today.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Austin, why frame this in an "us" and "them" fashion? As Americans, aren't we all in this together?

 

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

When the NAACP stops framing it in an 'us' and 'them' fashion, and Obama stops framing it in an 'us' and 'them' fashion (look at his comments about how there are still barriers in 'their' way.  Because no one, NO ONE, but black folk need deal with poverty), then I'll say we're all in this together.  But as long as they continue with the current line of bullshit, it will never be all of us in it together.

The same goes for many other groups.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I'd love to believe this.  I really would.  However, it's not the National Association for the Advancement of AMERICAN People, it's the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People.  The problem is that, regardless of who's at fault, these organizations foster an "us vs. them" mindset.  Therefore, those that disagree usually end up with an "us vs. them" argument.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

It doesn't have to be one or the other.  There can still be barriers while at the same time people who aren't doing all they can to get ahead in life.  Obama's point is that even though it's hard, parents still have to raise their kids to succeed or else they won't anyway, regardless of how hard it is for a particular individual.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

If Obama had been white and said this, the New York Times would have most likely called it "a fiery attack on minorities," and Kanye West would have said he doesn't care about black people.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

What, so only blacks live in the ghetto? Only blacks have to deal with poverty and racism? "Only the homeless are beggin' for change!" Whites are all racist, pampered, and snotty rich? Try again. Life shits on everyone: black, white, red, green, purple, and yellow.

And yes, Obama seems to have something against all games. The 360 was just the example he used this time; don't forget he advertised his campaign on XBL.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I'm not sure if you're responding to me, but I'll assume you are.

First of all. You should really read what I wrote. You're obviously assuming that I'm black. I am not, I'm asian.  So yes, I do know that people of all races suffer from prejudices.

The point here (and why Obama was speaking at the NAACP) is that he is a black man to whom perceived stereotypes did not affect him.  And he's saying that those stereotypes are meanlingless if you want them to be.  His speech is encouraging people not to embrace the stereotypes as excuses not to excel.  That he is proof that anyone can acheive anything regardless of race.  But more importantly, that this philosophy of "victimhood" embraced by minorities is the real thing that stands in the way of their success.

I don't know how you got "only blacks live in the ghetto" out of anything that I said.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

He probably got all of that from the fact that you said that white people don't know what it's like to be disadvantaged.  In America, most of the people who voice such an opinion are black, specifically the NAACP.  You made this comment in response to me pointing out that if a white person said what he said, it would be political suicide, but because Obama said it, the press just creams their collective panties.  I'm calling out a double standard, and you're supporting it.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

 Saying that white people don't have the same disadvantages as blacks is not the same as saying white people don't have disadvantages. Learn to construct an argument instead of setting up strawmen.

And because Obama is black, it gives him insight (and yes, a better position) and credibility from which to address those perceived disadvantages.

If Obama went and spoke at the RNC about the evils of affirmative action (the hiring of minorities over qualified white people), nobody would take him seriously for exactly the same reason that if George W Bush went to the NAACP to give this speech, he would not have the same credibility or insight.

I can't believe I'm still paying any attention to you. 

 

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Name one disadvantage any minority in America has or had that white people didn't have or don't now.  I'll point out how wrong you are.

And you're wrong about obama talking to the RNC about affirmative action.  If he spoke to Republicans about it being evil, they'd deffinitely listen to him, and may even try to broker a deal with which to get it removed.  However, he wouldn't do that because he doesn't want to get rid of affirmative action.  He has been very active in expanding affirmative action throughout his political career.  On the flip side, GW has always been an advocate for better parenting.  The fact that any message he has on the subject would be lost on minorities purely because he's white, which is racist.

As such, I submit a theory that Dems are more racist than Republicans, as most of the racist policies of today (PC, affirmative action) are from Democrat ideals.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I wish Bill Cosby was president, but since he isn't, I'd like it if he wrote these speeches for Obama.

GameSnooper

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

 Wow. Just wow.

As a minority, I think it's really good that he points out that there ARE cultural differences.  That they *may* be seen as disadvantages.  But I have never let them get the in way of my pursuits.  I understand that (although I am a very good musician) I probably won't be a Pop Idol.  However, I've done very well for myself in my chosen field and I encourage people of any ethnicity to realize that it's not about the colour of your skin but the effort you put into things.  And the colour of your skin is no excuse to slack off.

Obama, as a black man, is saying that people of his ethnicity should look at him as an example of what you can be "despite" prejudices both external and internal.

He wouldn't be saying this if he were white, because white people don't have the same perceived disadvantages as the people that he's talking to.  

Your post is one of the stupidest things I have ever read and I am dumber for having read it.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Where I live it's easier for a black person to get a well-paying job at many companies than it is for a white person.  This of course is not discrimination, but equality.  The fact that blacks are being held above whites at certain places is okay, just as long as it's not vice versa.

 

*sigh*  Not to mention Hispanic (Mexican), Italian, poor, women, High School drop outs (my friend didn't have a choice in the matter), and so on.

 

He wouldn't be saying this if he were white, because white people don't have the same perceived disadvantages as the people that he's talking to.  

 

The thing he was saying is that a white person cannot get away with saying such things.  My own sister was afraid to say black as it is not politically correct.  I told her from now on to call me a German/Dutch/Indian-American.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

Racist! (sorry, couldn't help myself )

You're right, of course. White people can be freely discriminated against, and you can pass them over for career or educational opportunities simply because the other candidate is a minority regardless of his qualifications. We call this injustice "equality." White people are also not allowed to point out such discrepencies between the concept of equality and its practice; doing so automatically makes white people racists.

Remember, all people are created equal, but some are more equal than others.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I think the worst example of such was the New Haven Fire Department.  17 white men and one Latino all told they couldn't be promoted because no blacks scored high enough on a test about firefighting, all because the fire department THOUGHT they MIGHT get sued for discrimination by black people.  If our country and our legal system has come to this, we have a very serious problem, but it won't be fixed because pointing it out will have you branded as racist.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

I'm glad SOMEBODY actually used logic in interpreting what I posted, instead of putting it thru the lens of racism.  "White people just don't know what it's like being poor."

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

So you believe that it's racist for a white person to say that black people should be more responsible parents?  I, as a white person, would believe that to be good advise, regarless of the ethnicity of the giver.

You, sir, believing that white people have no business giving this type of advice to black people "because white people don't have the same perceived disadvantages," just prove that you're as racist as what journalists would accuse a white president saying this of being.  You say you believe that the color of your skin is no excuse to slack off, but you also say that non-whites are the only people in America to suffer.  I've lived in the ghetto for most of my life.  My dad's a drug dealer and my mom left when I was seven.  I haven't seen or heard from her since.  I'd have to say that I can empathize with people from the ghetto, regardless of their ethnicity, so don't tell me that white people have it good and don't know suffering.

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Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

"I've lived in the ghetto for most of my life.  My dad's a drug dealer and my mom left when I was seven."

 

Yeah, I'm going to put that alongside to your claims of being a Marine and having been waterboarded as complete bullshit.

Re: Obama to African-American Parents: Put Away the Xbox

And I'll put your post in the box of "Can't fight with logic so I'll just attack him personally."  Thus far, I think that's where all of your posts have gone.

If you want to fight me with words, how about using words that actually attack me?  I am gathering that logic may not be your strong suit, but come on!  If you have an opinion about the argument I'm making in my post, feel free to point it out.  Making personal attacks on me, trying to deny me my own life experience just because you don't like what I've said isn't actually helping you voice your argument for or against the topic at hand.

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SleakerEZK - it's the largest server mod for MC, in actuality without it minecraft for sure would not have been as popular (#1 game now).08/21/2014 - 8:54am
SleakerTo the point that it seems they have completely lost what it means to be for-community, and having transparency. Along with dumping restrictive EULA's onto people.08/21/2014 - 8:53am
E. Zachary KnightWhat is Bukkit and why should I care?08/21/2014 - 8:53am
SleakerMinecraft community exploded again today. Apparently Mojang owns all of Bukkit, and never put out a statement saying as such 2 years ago when they acquired them. I have to say, their transition from indie has been rough.08/21/2014 - 8:52am
james_fudgeThere aren't many left in America08/21/2014 - 1:50am
MechaTama31I sure have. Dorky's barcade in Tacoma, WA.08/20/2014 - 5:56pm
Matthew WilsonI have not been to a arcade in years. I know arcades are still big in japan.08/20/2014 - 5:38pm
Sleaker@AE - Ah no it's called GroundKontrol - I was just referring to it as a Bar-Arcade.08/20/2014 - 4:39pm
Andrew EisenStill looking for confirmation that High Moon Studios (dev behind the PS3/360 versions) isn't working on it.08/20/2014 - 4:38pm
ZenGotcha.08/20/2014 - 4:37pm
Andrew EisenI already updated the story with it!08/20/2014 - 4:36pm
Zenhttp://www.gonintendo.com/s/235574-treyarch-isn-t-working-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-for-wii-u-either08/20/2014 - 4:36pm
ZenLet me send the link for the Tweet as well...they state Treyarch is not working on it. Grabbing it now.08/20/2014 - 4:34pm
 

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