Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away the Xbox

July 18, 2009 -

President Barack Obama's admonition to parents to "put away the Xbox" has drawn a response from Microsoft.

Obama made the remarks on Thursday evening during a speech he delivered at an event commemorating the 100th anniversary of the NAACP. Here's what the President said:

To parents, we can’t tell our kids to do well in school and fail to support them when they get home. For our kids to excel, we must accept our own responsibilities. That means putting away the Xbox and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour. It means attending those parent-teacher conferences, reading to our kids, and helping them with their homework...

...and here is Microsoft's response, as reported by the Associated Press:

We agree with President Obama that it’s a time for families to work together so that kids use media in ways that are safe, healthy and balanced. Xbox 360 is the only console gaming system that has a timer feature allowing parents to set time limits for their kids, as well as parent controls to enable parents to set limits on what their kids are playing and watching.


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Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

 I won't be suprised if I find groups offended and outraged that Obama is encouraging ppl to Whoop they're neighbours children.

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In his defense, I wouldn't mind whooping my next door neighbors' kids.  They have about six of the hell spawn, ranging from a new born baby to I'd say 12.  With the exception of the baby and the youngest girl, they don't watch them.  More than once I've had to chase them out of my backyard for messing around my garage.  Hell once one of the kids was cutting grass with a butcher knife for some reason.

Ugh, just read that back and I sound really old. 

Off my lawn!  *shakes cane*

 

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You should have called CPS when you saw the kid with the butcher knife.

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That's a good point.  Today, it's a butcher knife.  Tomorrow, they play cops and robbers with dad's pistol and live ammo.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

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I like it how MS agrees by advettsing there own features on the 360.

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"Xbox 360 is the only console gaming system that has a timer feature allowing parents to set time limits for their kids, as well as parent controls to enable parents to set limits on what their kids are playing and watching."

 

The PlayStation 3 also has parental controls! Not only for games, but for movies too!

 

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They were talking about their timer feature.  For example, a parent could set the console to allow 15 minutes of play, then shut itself off.  Hopefully it would delay it if the game's saving when that happens.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

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Ah, but the way it's worded, MS makes it look like only the 360 has parental controls... which I believe the other person had picked up on.

Bad proofreading... or usual MiSinformation.

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Aww, boooorring!!!

"De minimus non curat lex"

"De minimus non curat lex"

Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

"... the only console gaming system that has a timer feature allowing parents to set time limits for their kids, as well as parent controls to enable parents to set limits on what their kids are playing and watching."

Wow, classic Microsoft. It's hard to know who to root for here.

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Kids aren't the only people that play the Xbox 360

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Wow, Microsoft.  Way to make it sound like you're looking out for both the consumer and your own asses by promoting the timer feature (a feature that I have yet to see used, btw).

"HEY! LISTEN!"

"HEY! LISTEN!"

Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

Microsoft issues a response today...

"Woohoo! Free promotional space!"

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Anyone else remember how Nintendo used the Lieberman senate hearings as a mode to talk yang about Sega and try to come off as the defender of families and morality in the games industry?

This response from Microsoft smacks of that same sentiment.

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You know, if kids aren't playing video games anymore, then perhaps Grand Theft Auto will no longer be something destroying our children.

Not that I'm advocating that, but just saying.

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I admire our President's policies in a lot of cases, but I have to say that at some point, the videogame industry is going to have to swallow the fact that they're being used as an empty scapegoat.  President Obama's not going to respond to these responses - he's not even listening, and in all honesty probably hasn't seen a console game played since college.  He has way more experience listening to families who can't control their kids than he has actually looking into the pros or cons of a gaming household.

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His kids got a Wii for Christmas, so I'm pretty sure he's seen a console since college. :)

As to his words, the faux outrage over it is rather amusing.  (Not from you, just making reference to that inferno of a thread from yesterday)  The speech, as a whole, can pretty much be summed up as "be a damn parent and set some damn boundaries."  Of course video games were part of the speech, it has become the norm for a household with kids to have at least one console.  Video games are, and have been for awhile now, mainstream.

Video games were chosen because they're relevant to the modern household. 

 

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

I'm cutting him some slack, since he's not demonizing video games like most politicans would.  He doesn't view them as dangerous, simply as time wasters.  Considering the President's personality, and how busy he keeps himself even before he became a politician, I can see why he has that opinion of video games.  I would like to hear him say something positive about video games, just to clear up that he doesn't find them wholly worthless, but asking parents to get involved with their kids and get them moving away from the tv, is not a bad message.

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"I'm cutting him some slack, since he's not demonizing video games like most politicans would.  He doesn't view them as dangerous, simply as time wasters."

But that's part of the problem.  Videogames are NOT wastes of time.  Games - even videogames - are an essential part of the learning process.  If we drop all entertainment in favour of academics, we cannot learn effectively.  The adage 'all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" is an old one, and a true one, but the meaning of 'dull' has changed to a point where it means something quite different today.  In its original sense, it means that all work and no play makes people LESS SMART!

If we make kids drop the videogames as Obama is urging us to do, our kids will grow up to be stupid.

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Well, that was an interesting strawman.  Who said anything about eliminating all entertainment?  Certainly not the President.  He's always replacing video games in his speeches with family activities, or physical entertainment like sports.  Video games are hardly "essential" to life (which would be amazing, considering we did without them for tousands of years.  What?  Did the advent of video games cause some new panacea of human development?) They're enjoyable, and I wouldn't ban a kid completely from them, but I would regulate their time with them.  And that's all the President is saying.

I'm sorry, I just don't get why a person having the opinion that basketball or a family boardgame night would be a better use of your downtime than video games, is cause for alarm.  I don't consider video games "time wasters," and yet I manage to accept that not everyone agrees with that.

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Sorry but that's a bit much, there are, and always have been, other forms of entertainment for children and adults to turn to. Lets not start sounding the klaxons just yet.

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"... the only console gaming system that has a timer feature allowing parents to set time limits for their kids, as well as parent controls to enable parents to set limits on what their kids are playing and watching."

Sort of like an autopilot switch for parents, eh?

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Exactly.  An excuse for parents not to do their job.  Heck, I've been tempted to use it too, but basically, if I have to rely on that, it tells me I'm a bad parent.

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Wow, what a strange measurement for being judgemental about the worth of a guardian.  So using the timer on the XBox makes you a bad parent, but using the clock on the wall or an egg timer is completely different and required to be a good parent.

Let me guess.  Feeding a child bacon, eggs and toast for breakfast makes you a good parent.  But if you substitute the bacon with sausage, then you're a bad parent.  Dear god, I'd hate to think what it would mean if you gave them cereal!

It's not "an excuse for parents not to do their job."  Obviously, if they're setting the timer in the first place, then they're being active in regulating their child's time with video games.  Yeesh, I feel like I'm talking to my grandpa.  "When I was growing up, we didn't have these dangfangled machines.  The old fashioned way is the only way that makes sense!  These new techno thingies just make you weak and complacent, the way we did it was good enough!"

"Grandpa, it's just a cell phone."

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"Obviously, if they're setting the timer in the first place, then they're being active in regulating their child's time with video games."

Are they really being active in regulating their child's time with video games, or are they merely setting up the timer so they can avoid having to actively regulate their child's time with video games? It seems to me like it's the latter.

This sort of thing always reminds me of a TV commercial (circa 2005) for TV parental controls:

"You can change the channel from here, adjust the volume from over here, and control what your kids can and can't watch on TV, even when you're miles away! It's your remote control, and you can use it to restrict access to any channel you don't want your kids watching, and to automatically block shows based on ratings. Talk about remote control! To learn more visit controlyourtv.org. Cable TV. Take control. It's easy!"

I guess, for the people who wrote that commercial, letting the TV raise the kids for them is easier than doing so themselves.

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Nah, more like a "you've been given limits, now you have to abide by them or else".

A few missed time expirations will encourage better time budgeting.

Whether the Parent set the Parental Controls or an egg timer or a watch alarm, the kid is forced to abide by the time limit.  The Parental Control system is far more "brutal" because the Parent's sympathies can't be played on.  And if they are, it takes a few extra moments for the Parent to extend the time.  But it's easier for an egg timer or watch alarm to be ignored by both the child AND Parent.

After all, alarm clocks would be more effective if, after hitting the snooze button for the third time, your bed springboarded you to the floor.  You'd learn to obey the alarm clock then.  :)

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

"After all, alarm clocks would be more effective if, after hitting the snooze button for the third time, your bed springboarded you to the floor.  You'd learn to obey the alarm clock then.  :)"

I doubt it Ive managed as a kid to roll out of the top bunk bed in the middle of the night and carry on sleeping like nothing happend.
 

Ive also slepped with my arm on a red hot radiator and woken up the next morning with a blister (Ive still got a little scar from that).


but also to this day can respond to "JOHN WAKE UP" and "ARE YOU AWAKE?" with a moan a "yeah" and even "Im awake" while still asleep. hell Ive even had a short conversation that I thought was a dream.

I can honestly say you might not help everyone with your "springboard bed" idea. err lets just hope my house doesnt set on fire or something O_o.

 

 

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"The Parental Control system is far more 'brutal' because the Parent's sympathies can't be played on."

The kid could play on the parent's sympathies by complaining about the timer being set too low, and "I've already finished all my homework", and "it's not even bedtime yet".

You bring up the issue of parents being easily manipulated by their kids, which is sometimes a real problem, but I think there's also something to be said against the inflexibility of a machine.

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I have to agree, it's not a bad parental feature.  A parent would have to either set a timer, or actively watch the time (in which case you might miss the deadline by a few minutes if you're busy with something else).  So a timer on the console itself is no different.  Well, one difference.  It's harder to argue with the machine cutting you off, than it is to argue with a parent.  And trust me, at certain ages one less arguement is a godsend.

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"It's harder to argue with the machine cutting you off, than it is to argue with a parent. And trust me, at certain ages one less arguement is a godsend."

The parent is the one who sets the timer, so how does that prevent an argument? It seems to me it would only serve to change the content of the argument. A whiny child will still be able to whine about the fact that the parent set the timer.

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My parents use to just unhook the power cord and hide it somewhere.  Works better than a parental lock.  With the latter a kid might be able to figure out how to bypass it.  With the former, well, good luck playing your machine when it doesn't have any juice.

Their response when I whined (we all did at that age): "Tough.  You can't always get what you want.  Now go do your homework."

The more I complained, the more they increased the duration of the power cord being missing.  Suffice to say I learned not to bitch too much.

And it's because of this that I can't wrap my head over the whining parents who go "We can't control our kids!  They play those damn games all the time and won't stop when I tell them to!"

Then take the damn thing away!

 

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

My parents tried that back in the day. I just learned to keep an extra cord hidden.

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true, you can't always get want you want. But if you try sometimes, you find you get what you need.

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yes because apparenlty saying "hey, get off those god damn video games and get the fuck outside" is too hard.

 

well...that's  how my mom always said it.

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Yeh. Kids and their myface.

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

ugh i hate myspace...everyone always act suprised i don't have one.

 

what? is a 19 year old required by law to have a myspace?

Re: Microsoft Responds to Obama's Admonition to Put Away ...

 Ya i got a myspace once... i dropped it because i got tired of getting "friend" offers from sluts and spam.

Now facebook on the other hand... fully support that one; none of the spam, and good why to find and get back in touch with those who have lost touch with

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Thank you, Obama. Were you getting payed to advertise the XBOX? Or is this just part of the deal for advertising on LIVE?

 
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