Canadian Government Launches Public Consultation on Copyright

July 23, 2009 -

In Canada, the government has decided to consult with its citizens on copyright issues. To that end, an official site has been launched.

University of Ottawa law proessor Michael Geist, however, sees both opportunity and threat to average Canadians in the new government initiative:

While Canadians can ensure that the government understands that copyright matters and that a balance is needed, some groups will undoubtedly use the consultation to push for a return of a Canadian DMCA like Bill C-61.

 

The recording industry has already said that bill did not go far enough. That means we could see pressure for a Canadian DMCA, a three-strikes and you're out process, and the extension of the term of copyright to eat into the public domain.

Geist has been an outspoken critic of efforts to push U.S.-style copyright restrictions into the Great White North. To help Canadians stay current on copyright issues, the law prof has launched Speak Out on Copyright and has a related Twitter feed.

Via: boingboing


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IMO copy right is about preventing illict sales/profit and nothing else, go after the money not the distrobusion, it would create a much smoother playing filed than the absolute "PCisim" that prevents people from talking about works in the open..

 


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Well, your opinion is completely wrong, at least here in the states.  Copyright laws state that the owner of an IP, and anybody the owner says, are the only people allowed to make money on said IP.  That money is made on distribution as well as sale.  Distribution of an IP without the owner's consent is just as illegal as making money, as unauthorized distribution money never gets back to the owner of an IP, as that would be admitting committing a crime.  I believe that the government should go after the money BEFORE the distribution, but saying they should go after it INSTEAD OF distribution is akin to saying "Go after THIS illegal activity, but leave THAT illegal activity alone."

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This'll cement their place place on the US governments corpoarate-sponsored piracy shitlist. They aren't supposed to ask the PUBLIC what they think, heaven's no. They were just supposed to do what the US government (advised by private corporations of course) told them to do!

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Yeah, because the US Government really has the power to tell Canada what to do.

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Maybe your comment was just too retarded for me to get.

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Make a trade make pot leagle in the US if canada will make copy right  illegal!

 

er....copy right infringment.... LOL :P


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I am fine with copyright laws, as long as we don't have to have bad rootkits like what Sony did.

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I suggest you read up on ACTA, of which Canada is a part. Canada's copyright laws as of right now are perfectly fine. Any further laws passed will be at the behest of corporations trying to further control what you can do with their product after you've already bought it.

Good for Michael Geist though, he's always seemed to be a pretty standup sort of guy. 

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So, they're going to go out and ask average citizens, many of which like to get things for free regardless of who's getting screwed on the other side, if they think it should be a crime to download music and games without paying for them?  Gee I wonder what the response will be.  Hey, maybe Sweden's new political party, the Piracy Party, could have an outreach to Canada!

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That would be wonderfull...

 

I am a member of Brazillian Pirate Party.

 

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Thanks for assuming we're all pirates. Look, I don't know how you do things in your country but we're socialists here: we believe corporations SHOULD NOT be allowed to abuse us, but that's exactly what they want to do. Despite what your politicians tell you, (bought and paid for by the various media industries mind you) Canada is not a lawless, barren land of pirates and commies. So we have public health care, social programs that keep people fed with a roof over their heads, and people here believe the consumer actually has rights. What great western nation doesn't have these things?

Oh, wait... could I possibly have forgotten "the greatest nation in the world"? Oh my, I'm sorry if my red tricorne hat offends you Now, go read up on Canada again from non-american sources. We're really not that bad.

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Not Canadians, average citizens, even Americans.  If asked, many people couldn't care less about copyright, and would voice in favor of de-criminalizing downloads.  Do a "public consultation" in any country, and people will usually side with what's free.

My problem isn't with Canadians.  It's with your average net junkie who thinks music and games are magically created from thin air.  But IP theft is ok if you weren't planning to spend money on it in the first place, right?

(disclaimer:  bad attitude not directed at you, just generally pissed off today)

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Regardless if you're a socialist or a capitalist, what we DON'T want it corporatism, which what all the DCMA (which hopefully won't happen in Canada) stuff is.

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Interesting that you're more than willing to label most Canadians pirates.  That's just what the industry shills who are behind DRM do.  I guess it's always best to treat customers as the bad guys when you want to get laws passed that allow you to screw everyone so you can make more profit.

Last I heard, no company ever went out of business due to the activities of software pirates.  They do tend to go out of business when they screw their customers, no matter how many laws they pass to make it legal to do so.

Trust me, the only way DRM will work is if the companies behind it can get a law passed making it illegal NOT to buy games.  Because as soon as DRM gets into every video and computer game, electronic gaming will become a thing of the past.

No one is willing to pay $60+ for a game rental.

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What I'm curious about is when is not allowing people to steal stuff "screwing the customers?"  Don't you have to BUY something to be considered a customer in the first place?  Now, while Arell was a bit harsh, there is an interesting point, that, if left to common people, "piracy" would be made legal, because who would choose to pay for something if they can make it so they could get it for free with little to no effort?

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The majority of society, because sheeple are hard to trend break. It’s just easier to buy it than to done a peg leg and eye patch. And even then if it was easier the consumer driven mentality of modern society would still keep more people buying than trying to save money by not buying.

 


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http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com


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Yeah, it's easier to purchase legally now, but, give the people the legal choice, they'll go for the free one, especially in this economy.

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