Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender Diversity

July 30, 2009 -

If you are a white male, the chances are pretty good that you will have something in common with the character you play in your favorite video game.

If you are a woman or ethnic minority, not so much.

At least, that's the conclusion drawn by researchers from the University of Southern California, Indiana University, Ohio University and Virginia Polytechnic. The research is published in the current issue of New Media & Society.

Study leader Dmitri Williams of USC commented on the data:

Latino children play more video games than white children. And they're really not able to play themselves. For identity formation, that's a problem. And for generating interest in technology, it may place underrepresented groups behind the curve.

Ironically, they may even be less likely to become game makers themselves, helping to perpetuate the cycle. Many have suggested that games function as crucial gatekeepers for interest in science, technology, engineering and math.

According to the study, only 3% of video game characters are Hispanic; all of those noted were non-playable characters. Ony 10% of characters are women.

African-Americans are more proportionately represented, but mostly appear in sports games or titles like 50 Cent Bulletproof which represent racial stereotypes.

Via: TG Daily


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Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Where did he say anything about making a feature length film or launching a film channel?

Get an education and get inside the industry you clearly care enough about to bitch at. Contribute to the solution, don't just bitch about the problem.

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Doesn't nightywind2K's Option B suggest the possible solution of producing media products more to your liking if you are dissatisfied with the content of media products? Aren't film and television programming both forms of media product? I didn't read where he limited himself to any particular sorts of media products. As a matter of fact, he specifically and in all-caps refers to "ANY" media porduct. Ergo, film and television programming are reasonably included in the class of "ANY media products" to which he refers. 

I'd go easy on the "get an education" suggestions until you can somehow manage to make yourself appear capable of reading and understanding plain English.  

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People make videogames at home all the time, and that's what he was talking about.

You know, like Counter Strike.

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Yes, Mr. Lewis, people can make videogames at home and do so all the time. But not all people posses the necessary financial resources to make videogames at home. The start-up costs of equipping oneself to make videogames at home are not insignificant and are not within the reach of all people. 

Proposing a solution which requires significant capital expenditure to someone who has no capital to expend is much akin to telling the homeless person that they should simply go rent or buy a house in which to live. 

And he wasn't merely talking about videogames. His point was made with respect to all media products (books, videos, videogames). And my point still stands: you can't finance these sorts of productions with nothing more than the dried-out shit stains in your underwear. 

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As long as you have a job, you can probably qualify for a loan from SOME organization or bank. 

How do you think that most small businesses got started?  The individual put up what little capital they had, got a loan, and, in some cases, borrowed money from friends and family.  And then, with hard work (and, in some cases, a bit of luck) their businesses flourished!  If the business failed, they either struggled to pay the money back or filed for bankruptcy. 

It's called taking a risk.  Remember: Who Dares Wins. 

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This may come as news to you, Mr. Lewis, but we're currently neck-deep in one of the worst credit freezes in the last 100 years. Banks aren't exactly leaping to lend money to some upper middle class professional couples with combined incomes in excess of $250,000 per year, much less on the sole basis of merely "having a job." You really should listen to less Limbaugh and Beck and, instead, occasionally scan the pages of the Wall Street Journal.

And as further, FYI, Michigans unemployment rate currently hovers at close to 15%. That's a lot of people who have no job and are therefore automatically excluded from your "got a job, then get a loan" proposal.

 

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Really?  I'm pretty sure that the banks that took the stimulus money were supposed to be doing JUST that.  And I've heard more than a few cases of people within the last month or two getting loans, including an unemployed preacher who got nearly 500K for a presentation that will probably not generate anything.  Then again, I haven't had to ask for a loan in nearly a decade, so I could be wrong.

Then again, I know of many businesses (especially before the recession) that did just that.  People who made, as a family, less than 100,000 a year, who opened their own businesses.  From small battery shops to (now) internationally acclaimed custom gunshops, all opened with loans.  With success, the loans were paid off, but they started with loans that, had the business failed, would have bankrupted them.

The problem is this 'there's nothing we can do' mentality.  So instead of being proactive, they bitch and moan.  There is ALWAYS a way.  That way may be risky, that way may not be the way YOU want, but there is always a way.

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By the way, for minority groups, there are special grants set aside (some government, some less so) with the whole point of financing small businesses.

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

And once upon a time, gas was a nickel a gallon and a loaf of bread was a penny. And to qualify a borrower for a mortgage, a bank would require nothing more than a discernable pulse at the wrist. And Silicon Valley venture capitalist would dump millions of dollars on just about anyone who had a business plan with the word "internet" in it. That was then, but this is now. What is your point? 

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What's YOUR point? Risk is how innovation happens. If these people want to be represented a certain way so badly, they should be taking it upon themselves to be a force of change from within the industry, not bitching about it from the outside.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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My point is that if you can't bankroll the risk-taking when bank-rolling the risk-taking is a necessary prerequisite of the risk-taking, then it is impossible for you to take the risk.

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Circular logic.

You're under the assumption that a venture like this gets funded instantly. The way it works in real life (in industries besides gaming as well, including the arts and science) is if your idea needs funding and you don't have it yourself, you do one or more of the following:

a) Apply for grants.

b) Apply for loans.

c) Save up the money yourself over an extended period of time.

No one is saying venture capital comes quick or easy. Plenty of folks who've started with nothing have become successful through their own hard work (and essentially betting their life savings on their dreams). Blaming these whiners' lack of initiative on the current economic situation is a cop-out: they could've gotten into the industry before, but didn't. Why? My guess: they don't actually want to do the hard work.

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Good Lord you are actually totally off the mark with this one, his logic is not circular at all, in fact his argument is that if you take a statement like "they should stop bitching and make their own games" with another (VERY TRUE STATEMENT) "that it is not always possible to obtain the funding to make your own games" then YOU and Austin wind up a logically flawed argument.

Your conclusion is "they should stop bitching and make their own games." So lets see how it plays out.

Premise 1: Person A is concerned about underepresentation.

Premise 2: They have two options to deal with this, complaining or making their own games.

premise 3: Making their own games is more desirable than complaining to others. (I'll agree with this)

Premise 4: (I know you didn't ass this but it is true): Due to economic and social-political factors making ones own game isn't always an option.

Therefore

Your conclusion: They should stop bitching and make their own games.

More logical conclusion: They should make their own games whenever possible, but if that option isn't feesible they should resort to bitching and moaning.

Now as I understand it an implicit premise to your an Austin's argument is that it is always 'possible' to get money if you really want to or work hard at it. But this statement is pretty misleading, I mean in the strictest sense it may be true, that theoretically you can always make money but everyone knows it doesnt really work like that. Social and economic situations GREATLY affect the likley hood of people in the poor people making it big.

As a hypothetical consider a Harvard Law graduate, the son of wealthy doctor parents, who wants to start up his own Law Firm.

Now consider a young black girl, born in the ghetto to crack parents, with economic responsobilities to his family. THis person one day decides that he would like to  start his own law firm.

Now yeah its possible that the said black person might 'beat the odds' and somehow earn enough money to look after her family, whilst getting a harvard law degree and then starting her own sucssesful law firm. But in reality this RARELY HAPPENS, and often due to fault of their own.

I find it really disgusting that your suggesting that repressed minorities should just shut the fuck up and overpower the system themselves, rather than appealing to others in more fortunate and persuasive positions of power.

Not only is such a claim logicaly flawed it also makes you a dick.

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I find it really disgusting that your suggesting that repressed minorities should just shut the fuck up and overpower the system themselves, rather than appealing to others in more fortunate and persuasive positions of power.

Not only is such a claim logicaly flawed it also makes you a dick.

I find it absurd that you think I'm suggesting minorities should "shut the fuck up" on the issue. Since when does taking an actual stand and doing some work to change an issue, rather than booing from the sidelines, constitute "shut the fuck up"? Some people have it tough. Some people are dealt a shitty hand growing up. So what? Instant gratification for everyone? Pats on the back all around?

But whatever, call me a dick. When in doubt, ad hominem to victory! You haven't got anything else.

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Well its not really ad homeniem since the majority of my post dealt with the logic of your argument which you havent retorted to. In fact you'v only botherd responding to the last section of my post which i will concede is emotional and 'against the man', but only in light of your argument.

I clearly state Not only is your claim logicaly flawed it also makes you a dick.

In a sense your response is much more ad hominem since you havent even attempted to deal with the argument I laid out, but instead decided to skip to my emotional claims and disagree with my use of the phrase "shut the fuck up." You say When in doubt, ad homeninum ad homeniem to victory! You haven'g got anything else. Well I laid out a very simple and clear argument for you which you havent even botherd to discuss.

Finally on the issue of what consitutues 'shutting the fuck up' I concede that making the games you want to is the very opposite of 'shutting the fuck up' but you're missing the point of the whole dicussion, that these people often don't have the equal opurtunity to make mainsteam games. I never once said the idea of these people making games was a worse idea then complaining, I clearly said it is more desirable. It is precisly what we want, more equal racial and sexual representation in the gamming industry. The point is when these people are unable to, or have great dificulty directly influincing the gameing industry then 'complaining' about it is an entierly legitimete endevour.

Where I state that you're telling them to "shut the fuck up" it is in reference to your somewhat dogmatic claim that they shouldn't complain at all, but rather just directly change things, whilst ignoring the problem of how disadvantaged groups can overcome the very real barriers which prevent such active roles.

So the question remains 'when it is extremley dificult, challenging, and sometimes virtually impossible to directly change the gamming industry, is it not entierly reasonable to use different (non violent) methods. Including attempting to bring your issue into the public light?'

You haven't answered this question yet, but I hope now i'v cleared it up enough for you by now.

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In a sense your response is much more ad hominem since you havent even attempted to deal with the argument I laid out, but instead decided to skip to my emotional claims and disagree with my use of the phrase "shut the fuck up." You say When in doubt, ad homeninum ad homeniem to victory! You haven'g got anything else. Well I laid out a very simple and clear argument for you which you havent even botherd to discuss.

I see you noticed that, too. I believe that's what Good Lord calls, in his own words, "ignoring most of my argument and picking on the details that excite you." In your case, however, I would rephrase it to say "ignoring all of my argument."

And, while it is certainly his prerogative to see your calling him a "dick" as an ad hominem, I see it as your simply noting an obvious fact. I guess it's a matter of perspective.

And it is certainly your prerogative to engage in further discourse with Good Lord. However, you should be aware that it has been my experience that in the case of those who resort to feeble-minded rhetorical devices such as incorrectly restating the arguments of others; ignoring the arguments of others while glibly proclaiming that the others have no meritorious argument; and, upon clearly misusing one term as synonymous with another, refusing to admit the error but, instead, foolishly and doggedly insisting that they've made no error, time spent discoursing with them is usually not time well spent. But, again, the choice is yours.

 

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Thanks for the invite. I'll gladly accept.

You're a dick. A huge phallus. A gigantic prick. A big penis. A weenie. A willie. And, saving the best for last, a schmuck.   

 

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Grow up.

It's impossible to take you seriously when you act like a spoiled child.

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

There's no need for you to take me seriously. I'm certainly not taking you seriously. If you don't take me seriously, then at least there'll be a certain symmetry to the whole thing, champ.

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Kudos to you and your ability to take a "piss-poor" explanation of something and yet understand it perfectly.  

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Next time, try it yourself instead of relying on others to do your work for you. You're as bad as the people in question here, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Actually, I wasn't relying on anyone for anything. Truth be told, I'd decided to ignore your ass. Your insistence that you weren't understanding what is in my opinion a clearly stated and quite easily understood point, forced upon me the conclusion that either: (a) you were feigning ignorance and/or obtuseness for some twisted rhetorical purpose or (b) you are in fact ignorant and/or obtuse. Either way, any one of these standing alone is a sufficient and compelling basis in my book for me to ignore your ass and therefore that's exactly what I proceeded to do. You shouldn't mistake my indifference to you for sloth.

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Newsflash: Announcing to the everyone that you're ignoring someone is doing pretty much the opposite.

I do take your inability to make a reasoned point for two whole days to be indicative of a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, though.

Keep making excuses, maybe it'll get you somewhere some day. Maybe you'll even get the funding for a bullshit study like this one!

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

Newsflash: There's this thing called "the past tense." As in: "I'd decided to ignore your ass." Not to be confused with this other thing called "the present tense." As in: "I've decided to ignore your ass." While you've proved yourself no apparent candidate for NASA's Astronaut Program, I'm confident a concept as simple as the difference between past and present tense doesn't lay beyond your grasp.

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Actually, it's quite linear logic. When "A" = capital, and "B" = risk-taking, if "A" is a necessary prerequisite of "B," if no "A," then no "B."

And the way it works in the socio-political world is that oftentimes pressures of a variety of sorts (social stigmatization, economic boycotts, operational disruptions)  have been successfully brought to bear in bringing about desired outcomes. I suppose the good folk of Montgomery, Alabama could have formed and funded their own bus line where they could have sat in the front, back, or on the roof, if they wanted, but they didn't. They boycotted the existing bus line and added to that a fair amount of "bitching and moaning." And then they didn't return their patronage or quit their "bitching and moaning" until they got what they wanted. Worked pretty well for them. There's not just one way to skin the cat in all instances.

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It's circular because your argument is "they can't because they can't". That's complete bull, and you know it. If they don't have the capital to do something NOW, they can acquire it over time. Remember when you were a little tyke and you wanted that neat new toy, but mom and pop said you had to save up your allowance if you wanted to get it? Were you the kid who mowed lawns and delivered papers to get it quicker, or the kid that threw a temper tantrum?

Don't even bring up real issues of racial discrimination, because that's not what this is. There are PLENTY of examples of modern games that portray women and ethnic minorities as heroes. Here's an often-overlooked example of both: Mirror's Edge. Asian, female (and one of the few examples where the female lead's appeal isn't primarily sexual). These folks are cherry-picking their statistics, as they admitted (and quoted by keen-eyed GP readers several times in this very comments section): any time the user had control over their character's race or gender, they randomized instead. This bitching and moaning isn't to try to achieve equal rights, it's political posturing by playing the race card.

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You can attempt to re-cast my argument as much as you like -- but why you would, given that it's immutably fixed in writing for all to see, is beyond me. But suit yourself.

Do you think it's political posturing by playing the race card solely for whatever inherent joy may be derived from political posturing by playing the race card? Or is it not at all possible that it is political posturing by playing the race card designed to be a means to an end?

And you forgot to list the most "classic" means of acquiring venture capital: convincing someone on nothing more than the strength of your business plan to invest seed money in your business. I'd rather have an investment partner than a creditor. Wouldn't you?   

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No re-casting required, you've stated your case: "can't take a risk because there's no money, can't get money because that's a risk". I'm telling you it's wrong. Not in my opinion, mind you. That's just the fact of the matter. There's money everywhere, and clever people of all economic stripes have found ways to get it for decades.

Do you think it's political posturing by playing the race card solely for whatever inherent joy may be derived from political posturing by playing the race card? Or is it not at all possible that it is political posturing by playing the race card designed to be a means to an end?

It's clearly a means to an end, no question. It's just a completely lazy and zero-risk means. "Backseat driving" and "armchair politics" are phrases that also come to mind. If these folks want to see change, they're going to have do some real work on the issue, not just stamp their feet and make their best sad puppy face.

And you forgot to list the most "classic" means of acquiring venture capital: convincing someone on nothing more than the strength of your business plan to invest seed money in your business. I'd rather have an investment partner than a creditor. Wouldn't you?

We generally refer to that as a "grant". But I suppose the real question is... are you arguing with me or against me at this point?

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A "grant" is money upon which the grantor holds no expectation of it ever being returned (hence, it is also often referred to as "free money"). An "investment" is money upon which the investor expects a return on their investment. Obviously and contrary to your assertions, a grant is not synonymous with an investment. Still working on your MBA? 

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A "grant" is money given to a person or organization by people who are banking on it being used for a specific purpose. The "investment" in this case is the well-being of the cause the money's being spent on: for students, this would be their continued education; for software development, we can assume it would be the financial success of the company. An investment isn't always a grant, but a grant is always an investment.

Still working on your MBA?

Nah, I graduated, thanks. Still making excuses for the inept? You know, when you're not busy trying to make yourself sound smart by ignoring most of my argument and picking on the details that excite you.

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I am excited by the fact that you think "a grant" and "an investment" are interchangeable terms of art. It's a lot more interesting to me than the other feebleness like trying to re-cast my argument. Forgive me, but I'm of quirky tastes and gravitations. What, I should pick on the details that excite you? Who's picking? Me or you?  

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interchangeable terms of art

...What?

You think when grant money is being given out, it's just tossed around blindly? It's a calculated investment: the "return" the granter receives is the success of the individual or group the money is being spent on. They spend the money in the first place because they see value in whatever it is they're spending it on. Just because the person receiving the grant doesn't pay the money back doesn't mean the granter isn't looking for a return of another sort.

Honestly, do you even have a point here anymore? I'm under the impression you've got nothing left to say, either because you've run out of ideas or you've realized that your argument is completely without merit. I mean, if you want to keep arguing about grants and investments, that's cool... but it's kind of off-topic.

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Just because the person receiving the grant doesn't pay the money back doesn't mean the granter isn't looking for a return of another sort.

FYI, the term of art describing one who makes a grant is not "granter." It is "grantor." And for your future reference, you can more conveniently and succinctly refer to "the person receiving the grant" by use of the term of art "grantee." 

If I might pry, is your educational/professional background in law, finance or, as would more readily appear to be the case, dumb-fuckery? 

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Ah, so you're relying on spelling mistakes for counterpoints, now? Sad.

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I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a random spelling error rather than your complete lack of familiarity with relevant terms of art until I noticed that you did it not once but twice.

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It hurts so much to be compressed... =(

But I agree. The least you could do if claiming you got knowledge about the subject is using the subject's terminology.

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Well, it beats the stuffing outta you trying to cram an argument I never made down my throat. If you think that strategy keens me to further discussions with you then, FYI and IMO, that's up there with you thinking a grant and an investment are one and the same. 

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What's your argument then, champ? Enlighten me, because you've done a piss-poor job of explaining yourself so far.

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 Anytime there are black people in a video game the black community DA Community cries Racism

 

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What's the DA community?

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That would be Ol' Doc Kefka's impersonation of a black person talking (e.g., "dis," "dat," and "da" for "this," "that" and "the"). Of course, he sees nothing racist in his own such conduct.

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I'm always in two minds about this. I'll agree that it exists, but I also think that it is percieved more often than it actually exists.

There was a game called 'City Life', where society was divided into 3 main sections, with colour-coded scheme, there were artists, which Red, Industry, which was blue, and unemployed/'have nots' (as they were called in the game), which was black....

I couldn't help thinking that, whilst the colour coding was purely as a means of forcing the player to adopt certain building strategies (i.e. They were important to the way the entire game functioned), it's also possible that stopping and thinking for 2 minutes could solve a lot of grief further down the road. I don't think it was intended as racist in the slightest, but I could also understand how it could be construed as such, even though it is just an indicative colour, because people are hyper-aware of the colour Black and what it is used to represent.

It's like the phrase 'Black Magic', it's easy to say 'Ah... but that's just a colour of the type of Magic, it's not about the people involved', and it's true, but how many people thought of Voodoo? Yet the truth is that many of the 'worst' practices of Voodoo were imported from European witchcraft (and the act of sticking a pin in a doll, was not to cause them pain, it was to release bad energy), yet, for a majority, the image of Black Magic will always conjure up, willingly or not, scenes akin to 'Live and Let Die'.

But then, also, in its defence, can we assume that all computer programmers would be aware of something like that when so many other people aren't? They are just as human as the next person, their conception of the world is built from the way it is presented to them, so is the problem so much with any kind of inherent racism in the Game makers in particular, or is the problem a much more general and apathetic kind of one, where casual assumptions are doing the damage? And are those assumptions really limited to game-writers?

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While I agree to a certain extent, I'd have to question WHY the developers have to think of that.  It's called "Freedom of Expression."  Even if they were, in fact, trying to say what it is percieved that they said, they have every right to say it, almost everywhere in the civilized world.  The personal feelings of a select few are not supposed to require people to change what they want to say to make them feel better about their lot in life.  Those people should put some effort into raising their lot in life.

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 There's only one race. The human race.

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Incorrect.  There is no race.

Scientifically, it doesn't exist except in the minds of human beings.

 

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Homo sapiens (aka human beings) are the species.  End of classification as far as raw science is concerned.  Human beings put their own classifications on ethinicity and race....but science does not because it considers all differences beyond that to be insignificant.

If you want to divy up Species into other groups, it becomes sub-species...not race.

Race was a lie told to humans to keep cultures seperate.

 

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It's kind of funny, because the people who's social policies involve strict science over any belief (liberals) will avoid that argument, because that would force people to admit that racism isn't really as big an issue as they would like to believe.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

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No what it says is that Race isn't as big a deal as racists make it out to be, racism is still an issue, this fact simply makes racist fuckwits look even stupider than they usually do.  To say that because race is a meaningless concept, constructed by humans that racism is also meaningless or unimportant makes me question your intellectual capacity as your statement in regards to the previous post is completely nonsensical and exists only to make a (incorrect, asinine, and idiotic) political point.  However you seem to be the type of person who would be proud of an intelligence small enough that they would miss the patently obvious point of the post that they are responding to just as long as they don’t appear to be a elitist liberal intellectual. 

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Research: Video Game Characters Lack Ethnic & Gender ...

What about animals/anthros like Yoshi or the Pandaren?  Machine intelligences like the Borg or Transformers?  Magical beings like elves or elementals?  Extraterrestrials like the Protoss or Zerg?  And supernatural beings like hellspawn and undead?

Why so racist you guys? :P

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The study is flawed as it does not take into account the fact that the games industry is worldwide and not as American-centric like the film industry is. Therefore there will not be more latino gamers than white gamers when taking the world population of gamers into account.

Also because many of the games companies do not hale from the US, they will be more representative of their own populations, so games will have plenty of asian characters in them due to the fact that Japan is the second (or third depending on EU) largest games market. Latino populations are much less in these populations so they feature less in games.

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Harmful to forming identity? What's that BS? I'm a white, American male. My earliest games were Prince of Persia and Mario Bros. Persians and Italians. So was that harmful to the formation of my identity? I don't think so. I was just a kid. I wasn't looking for other white people to play as. No kid actually cares about that.

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MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/18/playstation-99-cent-sale-discounts-tokyo-jungle-super-stardust/ Weekend long PSN flash sale. So much stuff is 99 cents for the rest of the weekend.04/18/2014 - 5:59pm
Adam802http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/18/5627928/newtown-video-game-addiction-forum04/18/2014 - 4:14pm
Matthew Wilsonit is a video talking about why certain games/products/consoles do well, and others do not. he back it up with solid research.04/18/2014 - 3:56pm
Andrew EisenI'm not keen on blind links. What is it?04/18/2014 - 3:45pm
Matthew Wilsonthis is worth a whatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXcr6sDRtw&list=PL35FE5C4B157509C904/18/2014 - 3:43pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 3: Night Dive was brought to the attention of the public by a massive game recovery, and yet most of their released catalogue consists of games that other people did the hard work of getting re-released.04/17/2014 - 8:46pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 2: If Humongous Entertainment wanted their stuff on Steam, why didn't they talk to their parent company, which does have a number of games published on Steam?04/17/2014 - 8:45pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 1: When Night Dive spent the better part of a year teasing the return of true classics, having their big content dump be edutainment is kind of a kick in the stomach.04/17/2014 - 8:44pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.giantbomb.com/articles/jeff-gerstmann-heads-to-new-york-takes-questions/1100-4900/ He talks about the future games press and the games industry. It is worth your time even though it is a bit long, and stay for the QA. There are some good QA04/17/2014 - 5:28pm
IanCErm so they shouldn't sell edutainment at all? Why?04/17/2014 - 4:42pm
MaskedPixelanteNot that linkable, go onto Steam and there's stuff like Pajama Sam on the front-page, courtesy of Night Dive.04/17/2014 - 4:13pm
Andrew EisenOkay, again, please, please, PLEASE get in a habit of linking to whatever you're talking about.04/17/2014 - 4:05pm
MaskedPixelanteAnother round of Night Dive teasing and promising turns out to be stupid edutainment games. Thanks for wasting all our time, guys. See you never.04/17/2014 - 3:44pm
Matthew WilsonAgain the consequences were not only foreseeable, but very likely. anyone who understood supply demand curvs knew that was going to happen. SF has been a econ/trade hub for the last hundred years.04/17/2014 - 2:45pm
Andrew EisenMixedPixelante - Would you like to expand on that?04/17/2014 - 2:43pm
MaskedPixelanteWell, I am officially done with Night Dive Studios. Unless they can bring something worthwhile back, I'm never buying another game from them.04/17/2014 - 2:29pm
PHX Corphttp://www.msnbc.com/ronan-farrow/watch/video-games-continue-to-break-the-mold-229561923638 Ronan Farrow Daily on Video games breaking the mold04/17/2014 - 2:13pm
NeenekoAh yes, because by building something nice they were just asking for people to come push them out. Consequences are protested all the time when other people are implementing them.04/17/2014 - 2:06pm
Matthew Wilsonok than they should not protest when the consequences of that choice occur.04/17/2014 - 1:06pm
NeenekoIf people want tall buildings, plenty of other cities with them. Part of freedom and markets is communities deciding what they do and do not want built in their collective space.04/17/2014 - 12:55pm
 

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