Feds Bust California College Student for Modding Consoles

A 27-year-old college student arrested yesterday by federal agents is charged with modding video game consoles.

Matthew Lloyd Crippen, who attends Cal State Fullerton, was charged with tweaking systems from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. The arrest was made by agents of the U.S. Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), reports NBC Los Angeles.

Modifying consoles to circumvent video game copyright protection measures is a federal offense under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. The investigation into Crippen’s activities came following a complaint by the Entertainment Software Association; the trade group lobbies on behalf of U.S. video game publishers.

Special Agent in Charge Robert Schoch, who heads the ICE office in L.A. commented on the bust:

Playing with games in this way is not a game — it is criminal. Piracy, counterfeiting and other intellectual property rights violations not only cost U.S. businesses jobs and billions of dollars a year in lost revenue, they can also pose significant health and safety risks to consumers.

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94 comments

  1. treydawg says:

    wow this sounds almost as bad as this guy i knew that said video/pc game (the game it self not the system) modding is illegal. glad im mostly a pc gamer. no mod chip necessary to do evil

  2. prh99 says:

    Well I’ve bought my last console then. Game consoles are luxury items I can easily do without.

    Agent Robert Schoch should really consider pulling his head out of Mike Gallagher’s ass.

  3. cpu64 says:

    Its about damn time these idiots stert getting the punishment they deserve. People forget that once they buy and use a game console, they don’t have the right to mod it. Its in the licence agreement in the back of the manual.

    I want to see more of this happen to modders. Many of them who probably posted here defending the imaginary right to mod/pirate.. I enjoy any chance I have to report someone pirating games..

    Damn bootleggers. Buy your games, like normal people do.

  4. Papa Midnight says:

    So far, Sony’s PS3 has been uncrackable by conventional means though that has not stopped people. I see ISOs for these games popping up all the time.

    The Wii does not need a hardware modification to be cracked. That can be done through a software glitch. All you need is a game, a controller, and an SD card.

    The Xbox 360 on the other hand… Everyone’s getting a turn with that thing.

    "Not to mention that Microsoft is one of the most sued companies in history because people think there’s money in it. The first kid that is electrocuted opening his console is going to try to hold Microsoft to task for it."

    Considering the electricution warning on the side, that point is moot.

    Additionally, all you need is a Torx screw driver to open the Wii and the 360. Both are more than easily obtained.

    "You can mod your hardware all you want, but when you bought that hardware, you did NOT buy the software installed on it. Do what you want to the hardware, but if you do anything that alters the performance of the SOFTWARE, you’re breaking the law."

    I hate to tell you this but by purchasing the hardware, by de facto, you gain a license to the software contained therein.

    —-
    Papa Midnight
    http://www.thesupersoldiers.com

  5. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Becuse they make money of DVD players,recoders and blanks, if they made money off mod chips this would be a moot issue.


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  6. ZippyDSMlee says:

    So the old guy whos held up by strings whos out of touch with a know nothing bimbo VP is soem how a better choice?

    Frankly if its not  a dim or a reaper I am voting for it now adays…….


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  7. Alex says:

    This is why things like this make no sense to me:

    I have a computer. This computer has a DVD burner. Because my computer has a DVD burner, it is theoretically possible that I might use it to burn illegal copies of games.

    Now read that again but replace the words "computer" and "DVD burner" with "console" and "mod chip."

    Both mod chips and DVD burners have legitimate uses as well as illegal uses, but one is legal to use and the other is not.

    It is a mystery.
     —
    I’m not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I’m not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don’t know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.

  8. Spartan says:

    What a crock os shit. Billions of dollars and jobs – my ass.

    —————————————————————————

    "The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" – Herodotus

  9. Bennett Beeny says:

    I don’t know how to mod my Xbox, my favourite sport is cricket and I live in the USA.  Please tell me how, without getting someone to break the law and mod my system, I can play a cricket game like ‘Ashes Cricket 2009’ on my system?

    It shouldn’t be illegal to mod a system to play foreign-made games.

  10. Bennett Beeny says:

    "If you wanted to do something about it, you should’ve not voted in a president who brought JOE FUCKING BIDEN with him."

    Oh, so you think the Americans should have voted for a party that got us into a whole parcel of messes instead?  Are you on crack?

  11. ZippyDSMlee says:


    And how is that without having people break it and show both gov and public that it’s unfair? Any movement like this is multi headed. You have the strife caused by the illegal or poorly constructed law that builds public support to have it changed it makes those that organize around it job a bit easier.

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  12. Sajomir says:

    Yes, and UNTIL those decisions were reversed, the original rulings stood. While alcohol was illegal, it was illegal. No excuses. While slavery was legal, it was legal. No one busted down George Washington’s door and demanded that he release all his slaves.

    Right now these sorts of mods are illegal. Until that decision is reversed, that’s how it is. Don’t like it? Get it changed.

  13. SpaceGhost2K says:

    I assume that most of you have read "The Merchant of Venice." The lawyer Shylock demanded his "pound of flesh" (heart) but was told that he could take it, only if he could do so without spilling one drop of blood, to which he had no claim.

     

    You can mod your hardware all you want, but when you bought that hardware, you did NOT buy the software installed on it. Do what you want to the hardware, but if you do anything that alters the performance of the SOFTWARE, you’re breaking the law.

     

    Not to mention that Microsoft is one of the most sued companies in history because people think there’s money in it. The first kid that is electrocuted opening his console is going to try to hold Microsoft to task for it. Microsoft has no recourse but to aggressively pursue anyone who tried to get into a sealed system. They cover the seals with special labels. They use special screws to secure the console. It takes an obvious effort to violate that rule. Did it not occur to this guy when he when he had to go to these great lengths to open the console that maybe… just maybe… he wasn’t supposed to be doing it?

     

    (PS I don’t know what Sony uses to secure their system, but Nintendo uses special screws too, to dissuade people from opening their consoles.)

  14. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Because…they are not going after illegal immigrants, they have to harass someone that is their job as enforcers of revenue…I mean law…. =^^=

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  15. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Slavery was legal..abuse of slaves legal…..alcohol was illegal but no one cared really becuse it was a part of life and basic right of the individual.

     

    You’ve picked the wrong side of the fight mew thinks …….

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  16. Phlopsy says:

    Hold on, ICE? As in Immigration and Customs Enforcement? Since when are they in the business of enforcing copyright law?

    Ima need a refresher on my federal jurisdictionses. 

  17. Austin_Lewis says:

    I’m not playing Devil’s Advocate.  I’m saying that what he did is illegal.  I don’t believe that it should be illegal, but that doesn’t really matter.  The fact is, he broke a law.  He probably knew damn well he was doing so.  And when you break a law, you know that there are consequences.

    Do I believe it’s wrong to say he can’t do what he will with his system?? Yes, to a point.  I think he should be able to mod his system, up until he begins to do things like pirate games.  Up until you do something illegal with what you own, there should be no problem with modifying it. 

  18. jedidethfreak says:

    Intent doesn’t change the fact that its illegal.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  19. jedidethfreak says:

    Why, because he makes a point?

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  20. ded2me says:

    Unfortunatley it has. Sigh.  We already got people making assumptions.  To be fair though, if this guy got a jury trial from random people that post of game politics, it would probably be a hung jury.

  21. ded2me says:

    Hey Austin, it seems that you like to play the devils advocate in a lot of your posts.  I would safely assume that it is safe journlaism.  But if you beleive that the laws are flawed, and are taking the side of the "law" then why try and be a friend to the public opinion?  This being a comment area, I would think it could be more productive to take a side here.  Im not bashing your tactics so to speak, I would just be more inclined to see you take a stand and quit trying to take both sides.  I see your points though, and they are well thought out and educated.  Not to completely throw out that this guy "Modding" game systems was in the wrong.  The facts are that we do not know the details of this story to make up a rational opinion on this whole thing.  I will say however that IF they put him in jail for just modding Xbox’s, then I think that is wrong and unjust.  For people to come out and call him a pirate is not a fair statement to make.  Just my 2.5 cents.  I actually like your posts Austin.  Don’t take this the wrong way.

  22. Ratros says:

    Unfortunately, that little tenant has turned into:  Guilty even if proved innocent.

    I once had a dream about God. In it, he was looking down upon the planet and the havoc we recked and he said unto us, "Damn Kids get off my lawn!"

  23. ZippyDSMlee says:

    I am sorry but with a 2 party ruled govermernt you get either fcked in the butt or in the ehad, either way you are raped to better the noble order of polticaions.

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  24. TK n Happy Ness says:

    He was probably modding them to play games that North America doesn’t and probably never will get.

    When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

  25. Papa Midnight says:

    Actually, no, I don’t know. Neither do you nor anyone else on this site for that matter. Frankly, anything we find out through these channels is truthfully nothing short of hearsay.

    Now you may have your opinion as to what he was doing, but none of us know for a fact what he was doing.

    For all we know, he’d legitimately made CDR or DVDR copies of his games and burned them. Though that is unlikely, it is entirely plausible since ICE has a history of busting people for possession of a grand total of 1 single mod-chip (search Game Politics for that article). Likewise, for all we know, this guy was shipping out hundreds of modified consoles a month to people who download copies of these games in order to play them without buying them.

    The simple fact of the matter is that we do not know.

    Now do I defend his actions? If he was actively engaged in intentionally breaking DRM because he wanted to play Pirated games, then no.

    However, if he was performing perfectly legitimate actions such as homebrew development, then yes, I not only agree with his actions but I support his right to take those actions.

    I feel if I’ve purchased something with my hard-earned money, then I have every damn right to do what I wish with it however I damn well please. Consoles cost money. It’s owned by me. Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo can’t just one day stroll into my house and take ownership of it because they developed, manufactured, and sold the console. I purchased it. It’s legally owned by me. I should be able to do with it whatever I want.

    On that note, I’d like to remind you all of one nice little tenant of American law, though it seems to have gone out the window in recent years: Innocent until proven guilty.

    —-
    Papa Midnight
    http://www.thesupersoldiers.com

  26. Austin_Lewis says:

    In return, a feel it necessary to say YOU, sir, are a whiny spoiled brat, etc. 

    If you wanted to do something about it, you should’ve not voted in a president who brought JOE FUCKING BIDEN with him.  Look at Biden’s role in this whole thing. 

    The fact of the matter is, this individual KNOWINGLY broke the law.  And he broke it repeatedly.  Is this law unjust?  Yes.  Is it the law?  Yes.

  27. FlakAttack says:

    No, YOU’RE a whiny spoiled brat. Get out.

    There is a discussion going on here. Saying "OMG STFU AND DO SOMETHING" is not contributing. Saying "Here’s how you can do something about it" is. There is a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.

  28. Pierre-Olivier says:

    Kotaku mentioned that he was arrested after an investigation by the ESA. If that’s the case, I seriously doubt that he did it for personal purposes.

    The article I read also mentioned that he modified more than one console of each type, so he probably modified many as a service (for money and this IS piracy).

  29. hellfire7885 says:

    Nowhere in the article does it say he was doing it to pirate games. He could very well have been doingit because he wanted to import and play games.


  30. Wormdundee says:

    The majority of commenters here are going about this the wrong way. Please don’t defend this guy, it only makes the rest of us look bad. You KNOW that he was modifying these systems so that they could play pirated games and you shouldn’t support that under any circumstances.

  31. SeanB says:

    Holy crap you guys are so quick to shout about freedoms, and how what he was doing wasn’t wrong. It’s illegal, plain and simple.

    Your country has decided that doing what he was doing is illegal. If you dont like it, get it changed. Dont just whine and complain when someone is arrested for it.

    You have a democratic system in the USA, right? Use it! You all come across as whiny spoiled brats.

  32. Pinworm says:

     You clearly have no understanding of basic law, please stop spreading misinformation, it’s harmful.

  33. Darkwish says:

    What does that have to do with modding systems and playing illegal copies?

    That’s like saying Blueray and DVD-HD.

     

  34. JustChris says:

    Arresting people for an activity because they may use it for something illegal is biased profiling of groups involved in this activity. Everybody is automatically scrutinized if they are involved in console modding, because it has a connection with an illegal activity, even if you don’t do anything illegal with it. 

    I don’t agree with the law. Laws that enforce background checks on people who want to buy firearms are different, because those are designed to filter out troubled people that will probably use firearms to kill people.

    But with console modding, the crime in question isn’t fatal. I believe that "responsible" use of a modded console would be just as fine as responsible use for a gun, since its intent is not to commit the actual crime we are concerned with.

    GameSnooper

     

  35. ZippyDSMlee says:

    No but they are mine to break if they conflit with societal norms…. just becuse a few in power pass a law dose not make it sacrosanct it emrely means it gets enforced on the whims  of the power structure.

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  36. jedidethfreak says:

    I’m not talking about piracy either.  I’m saying he did something illegal and went to jail for it.  Stop crying that he’s some sort of victim.  There arguably are no victims here.  He broke the law and went to jail for it.  The law he broke protects entities which may or may not need such protection.  I’ll concede that point, but that point doesn’t change the fact that he broke the law, and considering the scope in which he broke it, the argument that he just wanted to import games is a very shitty one.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  37. jedidethfreak says:

    You may believe that, but that doesn’t change the fact that you can and possibly will get arrested for breaking the laws, seeing as how the laws are not yours to interpret.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  38. ZippyDSMlee says:

    For me the line in the sand is selling media backups, thats it, anything else is a individual right. Some laws are made to maintain order, others are made to be broken because they are inept,outmoded or just plain wrong and people are to ignorant and fearing to do anything about it..

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  39. ZippyDSMlee says:


    And you can make money on videos of how to install mod chips, as long as nothing "functional" is shown or kept (that or installing a broken chip).

    Besides I was getting at porn is legal but prostitution is not.


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  40. Shahab says:

    You can make money from anal sex, there are tons of porn videos out there to back that point up, so to speak.

  41. Shahab says:

    You are an idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about. Modding consoles use to be totally legal, its only been considered illegal since the DMCA.

  42. Adrian Lopez says:

    "If he was remodeling the bathroom to include secret surveilance system, your analogy would then be correct."

    It’s more like being arrested for removing a "secret surveillance system" from your bathroom.

    Criminal law should be designed to address actually harmful acts, not to invent new kinds of harm out of thin air. Disabling DRM does not, by itself, cause harm to anybody, for DRM prevents not only piracy but also things like fair use, playing imports, and homebrew activities. There’s nothing wrong with breaking DRM, aside from the fact that it’s illegal.

  43. SounDemon says:

    I assume you don’t know anything about the Betamax case?

    "Non-infringing uses"? XBMC? GeeXbox for Wii? PSP Homebrew?

    You know nothing, my dear sir.

  44. Pinworm says:

     "Modifying a system to make it useful for piracy is illegal.  Stop acting like your rights are being trampled on for breaking the law."

    You completely miss the point. The point is that it should not be illegal, and the fact that it is is our basic rights being trampled on.

    I’m not talking about piracy by the way, but if, as I suspect, you are too inept to figure that out, this is pointless anyway.

  45. jedidethfreak says:

    Just because there is another use for it doesn’t make it legal, or grant you any rights over such.  It’s illegal, and has been for a long time, so I revert to my previous statement.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  46. Truec says:

    Of course!  The only possible reason to mod a console is for piracy, right?  THere couldn’t possibly be any other reason anybody would ever do such a thing!

  47. jedidethfreak says:

    Modifying a system to make it useful for piracy is illegal.  Stop acting like your rights are being trampled on for breaking the law.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  48. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Austin_Lewis

    Personal law Vs public one, when one is in public the law needs to be a bit stricter but ion private it needs not be. Example sodomy/anal sex and sharing media digitally or otherwise. All that matters is you are not making money from either. ^_~

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  49. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Laws are laws…however…without breaking them  they will never be changed. Slavery is a good exsamle there of so was alcohol once, hell it took deaths and governmental and criminal abuse to make alcohol legal again..

    Like it or not the DMCA tramples our rights they can get away with it because they have the money and support of sheeple(people who not not think or act for themselfs) for it.

     

    Edited to death

     


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  50. Papa Midnight says:

    There’s no proof that he was actively engaged in Piracy. There are legitimate applications to circumventing inherent copyright protections, such as backing up, homebrew applications, etc.

    Additionally, you may want to re-check first ammendment titles and case law. Your signature is terribly incorrect.

    —-
    Papa Midnight
    http://www.thesupersoldiers.com

  51. Austin_Lewis says:

    Call Joe Biden and ask him what the DMCA says.  Basically, it is illegal to alter something covered under the DMCA that you legally own.

    But don’t worry, they’re looking at legislation to fuck over other groups the same way.  There are already some modifications illegal to make on a car (although many of these are understandable). And, if (as he probably will because he’s a fucking moron) Obama signs onto the ‘American’ treaty that the OIS (may be the wrong agency, i’ll find it later) is pushing, it’ll make it a federal crime to modifiy a firearm by changing sights, optics, or anything else on it without a fairly costly license. 

    So yes.  He broke the law.  And he knew it.  Doesn’t mean the law’s fair, but the law is law. 

    While we’re on the topic of ‘unfair laws’, I’d like to take a moment to talk about being drunk, from a legal standpoint.  When one is drunk, it is illegal to drive.  When one is drunk, it is also illegal to be out in public, especially if you’re making a scene.  So, when one is drunk, nearly anything you do is illegal.  If you’re trying to walk to a hotel a block down so you don’t have to pay for a cab?  Illegal.  If you’re standing outside trying to wave down a cab?  Illegal.  If you’re going to go sleep in your car?  Illegal.

    Talk about unfair laws, man.

  52. Ratros says:

    I find it hard to believe that it’s illegal to alter something that you own.  Now if they found actual pirated video games, then that would be another thing, but just altering the system itself should not get him in trouble.

    I once had a dream about God. In it, he was looking down upon the planet and the havoc we recked and he said unto us, "Damn Kids get off my lawn!"

  53. SeanB says:

    If he modified the car to remove it’s governor system (which i assume is illegal in the USA) then your analogy would be correct.

    If he was remodeling the bathroom to include secret surveilance system, your analogy would then be correct.

    The fact is that laws are laws. If you want them changed, get them changed, dont just choose which ones you want to follow.

  54. Neeneko says:

    Wrong question.

    He was not engaged in piracy.  He was not selling pirated or counterfit goods.  He was preforming after-market alterations to legally purchanced consumer electronics.

  55. Nekowolf says:

    Except this isn’t about piracy. It’s closer to buying a computer, then replacing the equipment inside. It’s more about, that he could use it for piracy, not that he did, if he did.

    Why not arrest me for drinking alcohol. After all, I could get into my car and drive drunk, in spite of the fact I never have and intend to never do so.

  56. Mukake says:

    He isn’t pirating anything. He’s probably only alterering preowned systems that people are sending to him. Its like arresting a mechanic for tricking-out/modding/suping-up(or whatever other term you wanna use) a car or arresting a contracter for remodeling a bathroom.

  57. chadachada321 says:

    Er…to put it nicely, "go screw yourself." I had a friend mod my original xbox in order to download/play a large amount of Halo 2 mod maps, and there was no piracy or ill usage going on at all. Are you calling me a pirate? Are you saying that I deserve to lose my xbox or get sent to jail or fined for modifying something that I BOUGHT?

    I’m choosing to respond to you simply because I don’t want to feed the trolls jeditehfreak and SeanB, but I wish to know, what is wrong with modifying an xbox to play mods to games (if you bought the actual source game), what is wrong with modding a system to escape regional lockouts (which still exist on at least 2/3 of the major systems), and what is wrong with modding a system to play games that you’ve made yourself? Regional lockouts are done on DVDs also, a dvd that I buy in Germany won’t work on most American-made dvd players, but the DMCA would make it so if I altered my dvd player to play german dvds, then I’m considered a pirate? Wtf?

    Yes, there are illegitimate uses to modding a console, but there are also legitimate uses. You can use wood to make a toy, or you can make a weapon, but to ban the "modding" of wood to prevent "criminals" that "might" use the wood for ill purposes is just assinine, as is the DMCA.

    (Also, what is the point of regional lockouts anyways? The company gains nothing, the consumer gains nothing. If I want to buy a game that is sold only in Japan, I should be able to play it, and the company selling it will make money, so why lock it out of my system?)

    -If an apple a day keeps the doctor away….what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-

  58. SounDemon says:

    What about XBMC? What about iRShell? What about GeeXbox for Wii? What about Cave Story PSP? What about Xbox Linux?Homebrew is what is known as a "significant non-infringing use", a la Betamax. Console makers refuse to allow the consumer to make their own games, so the consumer must modify his console in order to make and play homebrew software.

    And if you claim homebrew is illegitimate in some way, I will find out your identity and pelt strawberries at you on your way to work.

  59. killatia says:

    The Wii and 360 has territory lockout in there systems (though on the 360 is a game by game basis). Dispite that I agree with you on the fact the people with modded systems are mostly in it to play pirated games.

    http://www.magicinkgaming.com/


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  60. Darkwish says:

    The ESA and game companies don’t care about case mods. They only care about the mods used to play copied games.

    Since a lot of the systems any more don’t have the territory lockout, there’s very few legitimate reasons to mod a system.

    Yes, you can do so to play legal backups of games you purchased. However, from my personal experience in dealing with people that mod systems, 90-95% of the time, it is to play illegally copied games, usually by downloading them off the internet.

    The ESA and the feds aren’t going to go after someone who mods their system for personal use, they go after the people selling the modded systems and the illegally copied games.

    Get off your high horses people, this what really happens in the real world – the modifications are mainly for illegal purposes.

     

  61. ZippyDSMlee says:

    I don’t think the DMCA fully bypasses fair use…. its jsut no one in power cares thus its aginst the law, and will remain so untill soemone with power and infulance questions why the baby is thrown out with the bath water on this.

    I am sorry but shearing is the right of the populace, we need not a great a divide in information between the haves and have nots it smacks of draconian aristocracies.
    Now don’t get me wrong making any kind of money off someone else’s work without a contract/license is wrong, if you make the public burden the cost of sharing and make donational/ for profit strictly limited(say a site sales stuff for the media industry and is allowed to share other stuff)  while the public is unrestrictive in their lending and archiving of anything(short of child porn) you balance the needs of business and individual I would not mind a 10% tax on all media devices,computer hardware and internet. Its the cost of doing buiness in the age of in-nobility(politicians are modern nobility only less closer to god and closer to the "throne" than ever….. )

    If you want government and business to trample on individual freedoms thats all well and fine…just don;t beat around the bush you can’t have restricted freedoms, they are either free or not.


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  62. jedidethfreak says:

    Only if the messing you do allows you to commit crimes with said Xbox.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  63. ded2me says:

    Seeing this stuff happen makes my stomach sick.  I can go to jail for messing around with my Xbox? HA!!!

  64. jedidethfreak says:

    The only way this law will be declared unconstitutional is to declare any and all piracy laws in America unconstitutional, because they’re all tied together, which won’t happen.  Guess you’ll have to get used to the fact that, without express permission from manufacturers and/or IP owners, illegal things are still illegal.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  65. Mukake says:

    Who know’s maybe we’ll be lucky and this guy will appeal all the way to the supreme court and this stupid law might get declared unconstiutional… or he’ll settle/plea-pargain like everyone else.

  66. jedidethfreak says:

    Nice how, instead of actually discussing his post, you basically say it’s okay for a Dem to do something you detest because of stuff that happened later that you detest being done by a Republican.

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  67. Neeneko says:

    This is why I am always surpised that republican concervatives don’t like clinton more.  He was a social concervative and evangelical christian that probalby did more for protecting captialism and religious entities then Bush Jr ever did.

    Which just goes to show it really is just a blind ‘republican vs democrat’ thing and has nothing to do with actual policy.

  68. Nekowolf says:

    Nice thing the Republicans can hurl us into a useless war under false concept and directly lied to everyone, resulting in massive debts and hundreds of lives lost, only to have it fucked up from the beginning and destablized an entire country, all under an administration of highly questional practices and policies, including but not limited to: warrentless wiretapping, no WMDs to which was the reason we were told to go into Iraq, torture of prisoners, assassination squad, and Cheney (he gets his own list).

    Hey look! I can do that, too! Wow, blaming is fun! /sarcasm

  69. Neo_DrKefka says:

     Another Treaty Bill Clinton signed into Law which goes around our Constitution because they rather replace it or redo it. Pesky things like Freedoms in it and especially that Freedom of Religion and to armed yourself.

     
    Nice thing these Democrats can sign World Treaties which can go around our law nice.
  70. Austin_Lewis says:

    I hated his policies.  You know, like the ‘assault weapons ban’.  Oh, and the fact that he lost or injured over 120 of the best soldiers the world has ever known because he’s a chickenshit.

  71. SeanB says:

    nice try, but those analogies dont even make sense.

    If you dont like the DMCA, work to get it changed, dont just complain when it’s enforced.

  72. sirdarkat says:

     Oh god save me from playing my legal backups, oh god save me from playing imports, oh god save me from using the damn box the way I feel.

    What ever happened to the concept that when someone purchases something they can do what they want with it.  Did we just throw that out; next thing you know they will scream modding your car is illegal because the manufactor isnt getting their take somehow or modding your house is illegal because the original builder isn’t getting his take.

  73. FlakAttack says:

    Would you quit spouting off the same retarded line? You’re sounding a lot like a broken record.

  74. jedidethfreak says:

    Since when is piracy a right?

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings.

  75. hellfire7885 says:

    I love how they avoid stating why the student was modding consoles, not that DMCA thugs care what the reason is, because if you even THINK about modding a console, you are a pirate, there is no possible way it’s just to play legally purcahsed imported games, if you mod a console, your intention is to see to it a CEO has to downgrade their private jet.

    Hell, I know Apple is pulling the DMCA card to arrest people who jailbreak their Iphones because it’s a threat to national security, when in fact it isn’t and Apple just wants to control what people can and cannot use.

     

    That is all the DMCA has and ever will be about. Not national securtiy, but the bottom line, consumers be damned.

    Seriouslt, the DMCA has got to go.


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