Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center Protest

August 25, 2009 -

Organizers of a September 12th protest planned for a video game-filled Army recruiting facility in Philadelphia are apparently expecting some of their group to be arrested.

A message posted yesterday at SHUT DOWN THE ARMY EXPERIENCE CENTER details the somewhat stealthy tactics planned for the demonstration and contains the following:

We’re expecting national television and print coverage this time around, so we want to make sure our presence is formidable...

Meanwhile, folks willing to risk arrest are being asked to begin showing up at the Army Experience Center as early as noon to sample one of the X Box video murder games or one of the killing simulators. It would be excellent to have folks on the inside throughout the day. 

As GamePolitics previously reported, seven protesters were arrested by police during a demonstration at the Army Experience Center on May 2nd.


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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

With each and every one of these stories I want to play this simulator more and more. Keep posting them, Dennis! We need an It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode about it.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

I support their right to demonstrate, but I do not support the incredible stupidity and ignorance they consistantly show towards gaming.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

I love how they harp on their website about how important the 1st ammendment is and how they are being rebels by supporting (and using it) while essentially being an anti-1st ammendment group.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Protestors like this tend to believe that the 1st amendment doesn't apply to the goverment or corporations and is solely meant for individuals.

Not saying I agree with them, just saying where their logic is coming from.

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'X-Box Murder Game'?

Sounds like a homebrew PS2 game where you walk around killing X-Boxes ;)

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Gonna need some heavy ordinance to take out one of those giant beasts.

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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Expecting arrests? More like counting on.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

More like planning on deliberately provoking arrests.

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Which means they should be charged with Contributing To The Deliquency Of Minors for encouraging minors to disobey authority figures for the purpose of being arrested.

Hey, they want to deliver a "Criminal Complaint"?  Fine.  Someone deliver one to THEM.

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Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Now now nighty  the US protects ones right to be stupid. =^^=


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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Is it me or do they believe recruitment is some form of insipid brainwashing and it requires those who have been brainwashed to fight it?



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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

That's pretty much it more or less.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

I would love to get together a large group of highschool seniors and go on a field trip to the AEC on the same day as the protest.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Wow, they've got some real hate and vitriol going on don't they?

" X Box video murder games or one of the killing simulators"

This sounds a helluva lot more like a protest against violent video games than the AEC. But good for them for trying to get arrested I guess. They just end up looking like idiots. I don't even know what they're complaining about. Do they seriously believe that people go to the AEC and end up thinking that the Army is just like a video game? Cmon now.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Expect to get arrested? No.  Ensure that they will be arrested?  Yes.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Which really pisses me off since theatrics like this cheapen the real cases of when police are (or were) brought in to crack down on perfectly legal protests where no one did anything illegal but the protest was still embarrassing for authority figures.

They are trying to trick aging boomers and people who know bits and pieces of protest history into THINKING that these protesters are experincing the same repression you got in the 50s/60s and thus gain sympathy while taking no real risk.

In short, I find these proesters to be sleezy.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Of course they expect to be arrested- that's the only way they'll think it actually matters.

And you can tell that a large part of it has little to do with the army as it does violent video games. An ironic outcome would be one of the protestors "sampling" the games and being so entertained by it that he goes to buy his own copy.

I and others have said it before- our nation's system of recruiting is far better than those in other nations, some of which force people into conscription under pain of death, are brainwashed into it, or must undergo mandatory enlistment (though in Israel, it's not too bad, at least you can pick what you do, as I understand).

Edit: I should add this, too- I think that their entire campaign insults the intelligence of anybody old enough to enlist. They're essentially saying "you're old enough to vote, drive a car, partake in many legal benefits, make your own adult decisions, and enlist in the army- but you're not old enough to tell the difference between real life and fantasy."

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Yeah, but Israel is in a totally different situation than us. It's like if our neighboring countries were North Korea, China, the USSR, and Nazi Germany, and we only had reluctant allies that were thousands of miles away. You pretty much have to have a mandatory draft at all times to even survive then.

Oh, and I look forward to hearing the inevitable Austin_Lewis rant.

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Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

No rant.  YOU didn't say anything retarded... yet. 

It's true.  When you have a nation that is surrounded on all sides by people who wish to see you dead, every man and woman needs to know the basics of combat, which can best be achieved by, you guessed it, forcing everyone to spend some time in the military.

As far as the organizers expecting arrests, no shit.  If you're going to act like a bunch of assholes, plan to not abide by the rules set down by the people who own the property, etc., you're going to jail.  That'd be like someone standing in your front yard and yelling at you for hours on end while you're trying to mow your lawn or paint your house.  If they started coming inside your house or stood on your porch to yell at them, you'd remove them fromt he vicinity too.

Those organizers know the law, and no doubt they intend to break or bend it.  In doing so, they need to accept the eventuality that some of them will go to jail.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Those organizers know the law, and no doubt they intend to break or bend it.  In doing so, they need to accept the eventuality that some of them will go to jail.

I'd imagine they're planning on a repeat of last time. As I recall they made sure a few people got arrested for minor things so they could claim "They arrested our protestors!".

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Exactly.  Then they'll talk about the 'horrible conditions' of the jail cell.  What a bunch of self-righteous assholes.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Unless somebody brings up the phrase "dropped the soap", there's nothing horrible about the conditions they'd be facing. They'll probably whine about the lack of couch or comfy seating.

Re: Organizers Expecting Arrests at Army Experience Center ...

Oh no doubt, I agree with that. I'm just saying that in many other situations, mandatory enlistment wouldn't seem fair or right to some people.

 
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