German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins Vernacular

September 21, 2009 -

In response to a violent in-school incident that took place in Germany last week, a school principal has created the term “killergame,” and is attempting to implement a plan that would try and keep students from playing such games altogether.

A school in Ansbach, Germany was the location of the attack, in which an 18-year old male student reportedly injured nine classmates with a variety of weapons, including an axe, knives and Molotov cocktails. While games were not mentioned in the original news coverage of the rampage, Negative Gamer found and translated an article in which Brad Denning, Principal of the Schramberg Second School, touched on plans for making the educational facility “killergame free.”

Denning, courtesy of Negative Gamer's translation, stated:

Even if there isn’t a monocausally relation between excessive playing of games, leading to acts of violence, it still provides a twisted frame of reference of solutions for their problems and hardships, that they learn – and may transfer to the real world under certain circumstances.


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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Eh, the term 'killergame' has been used for years in Germany (killerspiele), so I'm not sure where you got that info from. Just google killerspiele and you'll see tons of hits.

As for the principal's comments, he's basically saying that even though its not a causal link...actually sometimes it is a causal link. 

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

So essentially what he said in that quote is this:

"Even if there is no link between games and violence, there is a link."

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

So are videogames the new Jews?

 

What? Too soon?

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Too soon, man, wait 5 minutes more. :)

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Hasn't the term 'Killergame' been used in Germany for a lot longer than a week? Pretty sure it has.

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

This article has been brought to you today by the letter "S".

"S" like in Scapegoat, Shenanigans, or Schadenfreud.

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Yes there are no Nazi Germans so let's just ban the use of the word and make it illegal in the country to even use the word Nazi or call someone a Nazi so we can hope other countries can forget the stigma we have for Germany's second Holocaust against the Jews.

What we have here is an excuse and the Germans instead of facing a problem they try to deflect all blame and try to wash away what’s going on by using a scapegoat.

Seriously historically Germany is famous for passing the blame of local events onto others and then only repeating history.

Let’s not forget why there was so many Jews up until World War II in Poland. It’s mainly because a Polish King who felt sorry for the Jews offered them shelter when the Germans decided to go on a mission to kill all the Jews because the Germans blamed the Black Death on the Jews which almost wiped out the entire population of Jews in and around Germany.

Germans need to take responsibility for there actions. If some nut decided to go out on a killing rampage lets not go blame the Jews or Video games like Germans are famous of doing but addressing the problem some German kids or adults are sick in the head and the only ones to blame are those sick people.

 

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

I figure from now on I'll just point out why everything you post is moronic in a reply to you and then leave it at that.

This article has nothing to with Nazis. You are a moron. You single out the Germans as deflecting blame on this issue when the US, Canada, UK, France, etc. have all done it as well. You are a moron. You bring up Jews and the holocaust yet again as if every German alive right now had something to do with it. You are a moron.

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Racist pot calling the kettle black?

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

No matter what country you are in, save for homework, shcool's involvement in a student's life should end for the day once the student is off campus.

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

You know what : NO violent games were found in the "attacker's" room !

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

I bet that they don´t fucking care. Once again, facts hasn´t anything to do with the reality they want to imposse.

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Fascist, Tin-Pot-Dictator-Wannabes are clearly alive and well in Germany.  :/

"...it still provides a twisted frame of reference of solutions for their problems and hardships,..."

So... since you haven't provided squat in the way of "solutions" for their "problems and hardships", since, obviously, they still have "problems and hardships", and because they have, according to you, found "solutions" in "killergames", you want to make certain that they DON'T have "solutions", so they can continue to have "problems and hardships" so you can have inferiors to beat down.  You'll make it SOUND like you have "solutions", but since you haven't bothered with offering any in the past, it's clear you won't have any in the future and don't intend to.  And any "solutions" that DO come up, I'm sure you'll try to take responsibility for.  Typical fascist behaviour.

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

This principal is an idiot what is he going to do ?

Start going into kids houses and destroying their "killergames"

What an asshat

 

Never underestimate the power of idiots in large amounts.

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Theyre gonna convice the leader of germany that gamers are inferior to those who dont play games, and that in order to protect the perfect people they believe themselves to be, will round up all the gamers and put them into camps so that they will be separated from the good guys.

 

Yes a Holocaust reference

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Then I guess this is when World War 3 will happen.  I guess Hitler is back, or the principal is the anti-christ as that show from the History Channel, The Nostradamus Effect is trying to tell us about.

 

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

LOL at Germany going back to Fascist habits to tell they world "We're not ultraviolent anymore!"

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

As soon as I heard about it, I knew games were going to get the blame.

@Father Time:

An MSNBC article just stated that he was in a medical-indused coma, and came out of it. So, he's still alive. Here's the article.

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

So was the killer gunned down by police or is he still alive? The original news is unclear. I ask because I'm wondering if the principal is blaming games and the killer isn't.

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"Even if there isn’t a monocausally relation between excessive playing of games, leading to acts of violence, it still provides a twisted frame of reference of solutions for their problems and hardships, that they learn – and may transfer to the real world under certain circumstances."

Translation: We don´t have any idea what to do, but we can´t just bother either to search for an actual solution. So we will screw with normal students anyways so everyone else (old people) feel good and pretty.

 

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

"a school principal has created the term “killergame,”"

 

Where did you get this information? They "invented" this term back in 2002 if not earlier.

 

 

"with a variety of weapons, including an axe, knives and Molotov cocktails"

They said no games were found on his PC. However, this guy had some serious problems. I mean, he wrote that he wanted to start an apocalypse, burn down the school and kill as many people as he could.

And still he only brought an axe and some molotovs?

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

So he seeks to have total power over... um killergames which were not even mentioned in the attack in the first place.   Since nothing happens without reason and the reason was not apparent (ie they were to lazy to dig for it or it would not have been news worthy) it Had to be games. 

Guess he intends to be in every bedroom and watching every PC and console in his area of effect (which apparently is not big enough if you consider the ego here).   Have to Save the Kiddies (and make himself the hero apparently). 

Over reactive knee jerking seems to happen most often when one has thier foot in their mouth while their head is up their arse.

 

@Roh02:  They already have security guards in most middle and high schools and have the right to do spot searchs of bags and such. 

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Edit:

Upon further thought I have a question.  How exactly did "Mr Killgamer" manage to get all those weapons into a highschool?  Who exactly fumbled the ball? 

 

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

whoa whoa "alltogether?" is it just me or does that kinda go against personal freedoms they dont get to make that choice

urghh whats next? security guards? cavity searching?

wheres the killermovies killerbooks killermusic killeractionfigures

if you want to prevent violence in schools you have to forget the equal opportunity bull and put all the violent and disruptive kids in a seperate school where they cant victimise the other students (the ones that actually want to learn something)

despite popular belief not all men are born equal some of these (whats the right word? hmm Id have to swear to give them their propper names) idiots should be mussled for the sake of everyone

... Ive offended many I bet heh sorry err just an opinion ahem yeah I sound bitter

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

People said the same thing about certain heavy metal music only it was supposed to tell them that suicide was the best solution.

Although hell replace excessive playing of games with excessive reading of Shakespeare and it'd still make as much sense, I struggle to think of any non-comedic Shakespeare play that didn't have murder in it (besides Romeo and Juliet since I don't think duels qualify). Then again I haven't read any of the histories.

Oh and I wonder if 'under certain circumstances' is an accurate translation because if it is then the statement is quite interesting. It's vague enough to allow him to be right even if the only circumstance are people who are legally insane, or people who become hostile for no reason anyway.

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

You know what they say- you can take the killergames out of the school, but you can't take schoolkids out of the killergames. :P

Well, you get the point. Said criminal is 18, already of legal age to play all kinds of games. There was no connection made with games in this crime, not even a cop-out correlation to them.

All I can get from the principal is, "Since most students play 'killergames' there is a good chance that a student criminal would play a 'killergame'. Therefore removing the 'killergames' would also remove criminal activity". And how about other activities that gamer students participate in? Will these activities also decline as a side effect of the violent game ban? Don't think so.

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Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

I thought schools were already "Killergame" free, I remember getting in trouble for bringing my gameboy one time.

Re: German Principal Reacts to School Attack, Coins ...

Maybe they should ban killer books too.  Im sure you can find a nice fictional book in the library about serial killers, gun toting badasses, and rapists.  At least I could find them all day long when I was in school.

 
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