Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

October 1, 2009 -

Jack Thompson has been making waves this week, riding a lawsuit against Facebook back into the mainstream media.

Thompson’s multi-million dollar lawsuit against Facebook is based on the disbarred lawyer’s findings, “nearly five weeks ago,” of “Jack Thompson Groups” spread across the social networking site, which he claims advocate violence and harassment against him. Thompson stated that, at the time, three different letters to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg did not result in the removal of these groups, which, in light of the company’s quick removal of “Should Barack Obama Be Killed” polls, only served to further incense Thompson.

Bloomberg and the Huffington Post are among the mainstream media outlets to pick up Jack’s suit, which he announced in an email on Tuesday, September 29. In the dispatch he labeled videogame “news sites,” including GamePolitics specifically, as “terror sites.”

An email from Thompson sent this morning, under the headline “Instant Confirmation from Around the Globe that Jack Thompson’s Suit against Facebook Is a Winner,” trumpets coverage of the case on both “reputable” news and videogame websites as proof  of “not only why the lawsuit had to be brought but why it will succeed.”

GP: Frankly, Thompson crowing victory as a result of the widespread coverage he received is among the reasons we didn’t report on the story as it developed. Is he still relevant to the gaming industry? It’s this editor’s opinion that he is not, at least when dealing in generalities. For now, as a way to move forward with this subject, GP will simply qualify coverage of any Jack story on a case-by-case basis. What do the GP readers think?


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Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

What do I think? I think Jack is insane. But this was already well established.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

@Jack Thompson:

Are you aware that Florida law requires a plaintiff who claims infliction of emotional distress to allege and prove that they suffered a "physical impact from an external force" or witnessed a traumatizing event and suffered mental distress "manifested by physical injury." I notice that your Complaint fails to allege either a physical impact or manifestations of a physical injury as required. I suspect that counsel for Facebook will also notice this failure. Don't be surprised if they include it in their Rule 12(b)(6) Motion for Failure to State a Claim.

If I were you, I wouldn't rush out and start spending that $120 million before the check's cut.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Oh **** off Jack.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Anyone know how much time he gave the guy to respond? I'm thinking it was in hours, as is his customary style. You know "I expect an response by close of business Florida time (just to be an extra douche since Facebook is in Cali), or I'll have him arrested."

 

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

@Ryno:

According to the Complaint, he send his first fax on August 27th and, having not received a response with 24 hours, concluded that his fax was being "ignored" and therefore send another one on August 28th. So, yes, there apparently was an expectation on the part of Mr. Thompson that a fax sent to Facebook be reviewed and responded to within 24 hours.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

At least He didn't kill the Fax machine this time

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

The three faxes were sent on August 27th, August 28th, and September 7th.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

faxes?

He really should have used the correct form of complaint. I mean, if you ignore the rules, what excuse do you have when the result you disire doesn't come out?

 

But really, faxes?

Honor, Justice, Loyalty.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

He should not be in the news at this point, he wants news coverage because it's the only thing now avalible to him.

 

This was true before, but back then he antics had some effect, these days he has no power.

Honor, Justice, Loyalty.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

With each new "press release" Jack puts  out I notice more and more that he seems to have a head in the sand approach to all of this. I see it in my line of work a lot, people cant pay their bill on time so they ignore it and keep going, then when we try to call and ask if theres anything they can do to help they panic and ignore it even more, then finally when their service is shut off they knee jerk and act like its the end of the world and we have wronged them horribly.

Jack it seems had a legitimate battle at first. He quickly took it way too far and went for the extreme and unreasonable approach. Then when someone told him he was wrong and he should rethink his approach, he took it as they were against him and pushed that much harder. This has put him in the situation he is in now.

Now he is faced with something very hard to swallow, the fact that he may have been wrong.(much like the customer not just picking up the phone and talking to us, hes now paniced) Throw pride into that mix and hes going to blow. Hes trying so hard to prove that he is legitimate and important on some level, any level, that all he does is dig the hole deeper and deeper. I actually in a way feel sorry for him. Dont get me wrong I despise everything he has done and although he has good intentions (no M rated games for children) the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" sounds clearly here.

I just want to scream at him, stop, take a breath, and put the damn shovel down!

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Don't you dare!! Have you no idea of the countless hours of enjoyment I've derived from watching Jack Thompson work that shovel?! If you ever convince him to put his shovel down and thereby deprive me of my entertainment, I'll come after you with a vengeance.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Lol Dont get me wrong, it is pretty hilarious watching some of the things he attempts to do. But you get things like this and it is almost just to the extremely sad point. I mean come on, he completely went out of his way to try and make this a big deal. He had no attention, and instead of doing what any normal person would and just click the report group link, he faxed the one person he knew wouldnt respond just so he could say they as a whole were ignoring his demands.....its almost embarrassing to watch.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

[I]ts almost embarrassing to watch.

But until it is, it's only thoroughly entertaining to watch. Besides, don't you wanna know if a metal shovel head melts when it comes in contact with the Earth's molten core? 

 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Jack Thompson called Andrew Eisen a "total moron" for noticing the "report group" link at the bottom of every group page in question. If a "total moron" noticed the proper notification tool and Jack didn't, what does that make him?

additional: isn't it odd that Thompson compared himself to Charles Manson, a murderer who believed himself to be jesus christ? [source1] [source2]

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Did anyone else read it as Jack Black?

I was like "what does Jack Black want with Facebook? And is i this tangently related to Brutal Legend?"

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

heres the Docket If you guys want to take a look at it

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-flsdce/case_no-1:2009cv22927/case...

Crossposting this in the JT The 9th thread

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Don't ever stop covering Jack, I don't care if it does continue to feed his ego until his ego becomes so dense that it forms its own gravity patterns around florida.  He's comforting.  Now matter how wierd and distorted my life gets, Jack look at myself and think, hey, I'm not too bad!

You ever wonder why, for all of his stomping and ranting about the net, blaming this person or that person for fostering emnity against him, why no one's ever actually tried to do anything about it?  In a way, he's a genius.  Think about it, if anybody were ever actually stupid enough to try to hurt him, we'd never hear the end of it.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

He's a child acting out to get attention. The best thing is to just ignore him as much as possible.

JT: I won against Facebook! I'm the winner!

Me: *not taking eyes off newspaper* That's nice dear.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

This story might have received mainstream coverage from other news sources, but I look at this in the same light as the guy suing Capital One for 827 billion trillion dollars.  (Not a typo.)

Suing for $40 million because someone was mean to him on the internet is equally ridiculous.

It's also hilarious to see that Thompson still has either not read or comprehended the Communcations Decency Act.  Facebook is not liable for content posted on their site by their users.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

It's that much more ridiculous when you closely read his complaint and realize that he's seeking $40 million on each of the three Counts of his complaint and therefore, as he's done the math and his most recent press release discloses, he's actually seeking $120 million in damges.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Jack claimed certain victory in the following:

- destroying the Florida Bar

- getting Bully, Halo 2, The Sims 2, GTA4, Mortal Kombat Armaggeddon, banned from sale

- having Dava Tunis thrown off the bench (even said she needed a criminal defense lawyer)

- avoiding disbarment

- his announcement that the Florida Bar was going to apologize to him

- having Dennis and a number of GP commentors thrown in jail by the FBI

- having anti-speech laws passed in Utah, Louisianna, etc

 

The list goes on.  In fact, he tends to announce victory over everything, every time.  This is another case of "I have them right where I want them". The best part is how this newest stunt is going to fail like everything else he does. 

Did he file this case representing himself as a practicing lawyer?  Because if he did (and I think this is so), someone is going to the slammer.

At least he's preoccupied with this stuff and not trying to destroy what's left of free speech in this country. 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Now he's a normal (and I use the word lightly) member of the public doesn't someone have to sign off on these cases?

I seem to remember he wasn't allowed to file them himself?

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

1- How is he not declared a vexatious litigant yet? This is not rhetorical. I really would like to know how that is even possible.

2- Reminds me of the time he purposedly let the "Send me an email when someone replies to my messages" box checked in his LiveJournal accounts just so he could claim to be receiving "unsolicitated" emails from anyone who replied to him, and threaten to sue based on his misrepresentation of some Florida law. Obviously that didn't work out, either.

3- As mentionned earlier, he was supposed to begin practicing law without a license today. Has he come up with his excuse for why this is not happening, yet? I should know better than to expect him to follow up on a threat, but I was hoping to see him end up in jail. In the end he would have been the only one to lose his "job" and get arrested, after years of claiming he would cause the same to others. How ironically appropriate.

4- As for coverage, despite his misguided claims to fame, the best weapon he has is actually the fact that the people he tries to deal with have no idea who and what he is and might mistakingly take him seriously. His bizarre, child-like antics do need to be exposed.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Jack Thompson is a vexatious human being.

He also has a habit of dismissing his own lawsuits when it becomes clear to him that they're gonna be dismissed either way. As such, there have been few - if any - rulings from the bench that the lawsuits he files are meritless, frivolous, vexatious, and generally a heaping pile of undiluted bullshit. Without a clear precedent of judicial determinations, it hard to rule a litigant as being a vexatious one.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

That's true, it at least lets him feel he's in control of when the suit is dismissed.  Just like a kid taking his ball and going home, claiming he won.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Besides, because the ability to bring your gripes before a court of law is such a hallowed part of the American fabric, you really gotta work hard at being found a vexatious litigant because such a finding usually has the practical effect of hobbling your ability to bring lawsuits. It's not a move which courts are quick to take. But if ever there was a deserving recipient . . . . 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Who's Jack Thompson?

and thats the way he should be treated...

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

First off, wasn't the worthless turd disbarred by the Southern District of Florida to go along with his disbarrment by the Florida Bar?

Second, another baseless lawsuit by the Metropolitian Moron of Miami that will get tossed out, just like all the other suits he's filed over the years.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Yes, he was disbarred by the Southern District. But this, similar to his disbarment from the state courts of Florida, only means that he can no longer represent other persons as clients before that court. He can still represent himself as a pro se litigant. It is as a pro se litigant that he's filed his lawsuit against Facebook in the Southern District.

However, there is the practical consideration that several judges of the Southern District, having experienced the full effect of Mr. Thompson's charms, are fully aware of what a monumental asshole he is and it is therefore unlikely that he will receive much benefit of doubt or favor before the Southern District. 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

I looked up "emotional distress" (the first two counts of Jack Thompson's complaint against Facebook) in Black's Law Dictionary and discovered that it is "a cause of action often brought by those who have no real injury to which they can point and therefore resort to claiming that the defendant hurt their feelings. A cause of action for emotional distress is thrown out of court in 99.9% of all cases." Interesting.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Yeah because Jack's as important as removing polls about assassinating the President of the United States... 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

I find it priceless that he calls people out for "shoot the messenger" methodology in the press release... Specifically, the press release discussing his decision to sue the messenger.

Perfect example of his attitude of "you can't do that... I can".

-- Sometimes the truth is arrived at by adding all the little lies together and deducting them from the totality of what is known

-- Sometimes the truth is arrived at by adding all the little lies together and deducting them from the totality of what is known

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

John Bruce needs a hug:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=147220886454

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Great, now he will believe we are trying to sexually harass him...

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Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Joined  :D


Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

A hug? We all remember how he reacted to flowers. Plus, when Janet Reno put her hand on him.


Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

"In the dispatch he labeled videogame “news sites,” including GamePolitics specifically, as “terror sites.”"

Libel!

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Thompson has a legitimate problem with these Facebook groups.  However, the key issue is that he completed ignored the established route for reporting a group such as these, and instead chose to take his problem directly to the top man.  The same top man who hires moderators to deal with these issues because he is too busy to deal with individual users.  That's the way that companies work.

I also find it funny that another user reported one of these groups using the provided "Report Group" method, and it was removed within 24 hours: forums.theeca.com/showpost.php

 

As far as coverage of Thompson goes?  It's just feeding the trolls.  While I find him amusing, the more attention he gets, not matter what kind of attention it is, he will thrive on it.  Denouncing him, proving him wrong, calling him crazy, every ounce of attention just fuels him.

If he does something that could actually have an impact, sure, report on it.  If this, or any of his other lawsuits are not immediately thrown out, report on it.  If he is thrown in jail, or his disbarment gets reviewed, or anything like that, report on it.

But this?  This is his whining, plain and simple.  His pathetic attempts to dress it up as a legal complaint does not change that fact.

And whining should not be reported on.  Laughed at, mocked in forums, but not given public attention.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

It is a good example of his inflated self importance.  Little people use the correct procedures and go to mere moderators.  Important people go strait to their peers like the CEO.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Hey guys erm... question.. doesnt the U.S. Communications Decency Act make it clear that companies like Facebook have no liability for what people do with their services? Which.. if so.. erm.. well hello another waste of air and paper by Jack?

Also Jack's campaign of hate against games has seriously traumatised the industry and every gamer, we are entitled to compensation of over 40 million dollars each!!! We dont have a secret service to protect us also!!!!!! </sarcasm>

>___> so yeah..

 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

I'm fairly certain this applies here, so yeah... I think you're right.  Not that such a fact will stop him, but at least we can be safe in the knowledge that his career will continue unblemished by success.

Further, hasn't Jack engaged in hyperbolic statements of this variety?  In particular, I seem to recall his "modest proposal" for a video game involving killing video game developers... Taking this in addition to his close-held belief that video games incite similar, real-world violence, I think there's actually a case here that Jack was attempting to incite violence against game developers.

-- Sometimes the truth is arrived at by adding all the little lies together and deducting them from the totality of what is known

-- Sometimes the truth is arrived at by adding all the little lies together and deducting them from the totality of what is known

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

You do realize if you stop covering Jack, he's going to throw a "sue you" over how you're not fairly portraying his struggles.

I'm just thinking of your fax machines here, guy.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

I don't like the thought of GP deliberately allowing itself to get scooped on Jack Thompson news.  One of the things I liked about GP's Thompson coverage in the past was that it tended to cover Thompson's legal actions both more quickly and more in-depth than regular media outlets -- including PDFs of court documents and copies of Jack's emails when such things added to the reporting.  As long as there's something interesting to report, I say bring on the stories.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

He's not 'as relevant' to the Industry as he once was. He's acting like this because a couple articles are focusing on him again and because of some 'Death Simulator'. Once someone finally okays the muzzle the neutering will be complete.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

@Erasmus:

Couldn't agree with you more. There's a long and hallowed tradition at GamePolitics of scooping all other media outlets on matters Jack Thompson. I prefer not to get my Jack Thompson news when it's already hours stale. It's certainly the EIC's prerogative to move the publication in any direction he sees fit but if this keeps up, I'll be forced to cancel my subscription.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

 Call me crazy, but I find that there's a big difference between murder and treason.

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

People all over the internet were calling for the death of Bush.  There was even a movie about it.  Things are different with this president- look at how flikr removed the Obama/Joker image without valid reason (every excuse failed). 

No doubt Jack thinks he's above the president, though. 

Re: Jack’s Back: Sues Facebook, Declares Himself a Winner

Well come on, no way Thompson warrents as much attention as the freakin President!

 
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